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MVP! MVP! MVP! ;D
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Kobe Bryant became the first Lakers player with consecutive 50-point games in 44 seasons, following a 65-point game with 50 against Minnesota on Sunday night in Los Angeles' 109-102 victory over the Timberwolves.
After shooting 23-for-39 from the field in Friday's overtime victory against Portland, Bryant was 17-for-35 against the Timberwolves, who lost their 10th straight road game. Last season's scoring champ helped secure the victory with a critical three-point play after Minnesota sliced a 19-point deficit to 95-92 on Ricky Davis ' 3-pointer from the left sideline with 2:55 to play.
The last time a Lakers player scored 50 or more points in consecutive games was in December 1962, when Elgin Baylor reached that figure in three straight contests - including a home-and-home set against the San Francisco Warriors.
Only two other players in the last 10 years have recorded back-to-back 50-point games. Antawn Jamison did it in December 2000 against Seattle and the Lakers (51-51) and Allen Iverson did it in December 2004 against Milwaukee and Utah (54-51).
Bryant has scored at least 50 points four times this season and has averaged 40 in his next game. Prior to this game, the most he ever scored immediately after a 50-point game was 45 - which he did twice. The fewest was 14, on a night when Shaquille O'Neal had 34 at Seattle.
It was the 17th time that Bryant has scored at least 50 points. The Lakers are 12-5 in those games.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/recaps/2007/03/18/20769_recap.html
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What a shame we can't put Kobe in a time machine back to 1989 so we can see the Detroit Bad Boys put this smug upstart on his ass and watch him go 3-19 from the floor.
SERGIO!!!!
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What a shame we can't put Kobe in a time machine back to 1989 so we can see the Detroit Bad Boys put this smug upstart on his ass and watch him go 3-19 from the floor.
SERGIO!!!!
I think it was Shaq who nominated Lambeer as the most obnoxious dirty player he'd ever played against. Effective though.
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I think it was Shaq who nominated Lambeer as the most obnoxious dirty player he'd ever played against. Effective though.
Yep, and SHAQ only played against Bill when he was on his last legs. What a sight it would have been to see Laimbeer put a elbow into Kobe's ribs on a dunk or layup attempt ;D.
SERGIO!!!!
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haha i love watching all the haters come out of the woodwork, hating on Kobe is like finding flaws in the 98-99 ronnie coleman, haha epic grasping at straws out of blind hate
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What a shame we can't put Kobe in a time machine back to 1989 so we can see the Detroit Bad Boys put this smug upstart on his ass and watch him go 3-19 from the floor.
SERGIO!!!!
kobe still would have scored his points agianst the bad boys
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kobe still would have scored his points agianst the bad boys
No way of knowing let's face it he's a whiny little pussy.
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haha i love watching all the haters come out of the woodwork, hating on Kobe is like finding flaws in the 98-99 ronnie coleman, haha epic grasping at straws out of blind hate
Why, because some see beyond the me-first point scoring and see an extremely irritating twit? Far from the near-flawless Coleman.
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haha i love watching all the haters come out of the woodwork, hating on Kobe is like finding flaws in the 98-99 ronnie coleman, haha epic grasping at straws out of blind hate
I agree. Hands down the best player on the planet.
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I agree. Hands down the best player on the planet.
YEah this guy can do anything on the court...There is nothing this guy cant do.
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Crappy writing...
The last time a Lakers player scored 50 or more points in consecutive games was in December 1962, when Elgin Baylor reached that figure in three straight contests - including a home-and-home set against the San Francisco Warriors.
Please explain why that has any significance whatsoever.
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YEah this guy can do anything on the court...There is nothing this guy cant do.
I know one thing.
Taking his team to the finals.
A couple of good matches don't make an MVP.
Though i agree, when he's ON, he's unstoppable.
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I agree. Hands down the best player on the planet.
That might be a little bit of a exaggeration ;) Not saying he is not an amazing player, he is.
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That might be a little bit of a exaggeration ;) Not saying he is not an amazing player, he is.
Not to me. There isn't a player today who can do what Kobe does, inside and out, at the free throw line, defense, intensity, cruch time, etc.
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Crappy writing...
Please explain why that has any significance whatsoever.
I would if I wrote it.
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That might be a little bit of a exaggeration ;) Not saying he is not an amazing player, he is.
who is bettr?
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Kobe is the best player in the NBA and there's no disputing it.
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YEah this guy can do anything on the court...There is nothing this guy cant do.
Except win a title without Shaq ;D.
SERGIO!!!!
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Kobe is the best player in the NBA and there's no disputing it.
And yet he's so not compelling.
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And yet he's so not compelling.
How so? Stats, wins, rings, perennial all star, first team all NBA defense, endorsements, jersey sales, ticket sales at home and on the road, etc. What's left?
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How so? Stats, wins, rings, perennial all star, first team all NBA defense, endorsements, jersey sales, ticket sales at home and on the road, etc. What's left?
Doing it without Shaq. I don't think he's good enough in regards to the intangibles to do it.
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Doing it without Shaq. I don't think he's good enough in regards to the intangibles to do it.
Legitimate issue. That said, he gets a pass from me so far, because they have not surrounded him with enough talent to win a championship. Give him another all star and he likely gets another ring, or three. They are one player away. Smush Parker and Kwame Brown are not the answer.
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How about that stretch a couple years ago where Kobe averaged 40+ for like 15 games? Awesome.
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Legitimate issue. That said, he gets a pass from me so far, because they have not surrounded him with enough talent to win a championship. Give him another all star and he likely gets another ring, or three. They are one player away. Smush Parker and Kwame Brown are not the answer.
Bynum may be that kind of player in a couple years.
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Bynum may be that kind of player in a couple years.
I hope so. As of now, he is sort of lazy. He could come around though.
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Legitimate issue. That said, he gets a pass from me so far, because they have not surrounded him with enough talent to win a championship. Give him another all star and he likely gets another ring, or three. They are one player away. Smush Parker and Kwame Brown are not the answer.
His obvious selfishness has not been unlearned after all the years of experience, and does not equate to being a winner, even with better talent. The opposite of Bird & Magic; even Jordan became a better team player later.
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His obvious selfishness has not been unlearned after all the years of experience, and does not equate to being a winner, even with better talent. The opposite of Bird & Magic; even Jordan became a better team player later.
His selfishness has resulted in three rings. He has also led his team in assists pretty much every year as a starter. He could probably average ten assists a game if his teammates could knock down shots.
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His selfishness has resulted in three rings. He has also led his team in assists pretty much every year as a starter. He could probably average ten assists a game if his teammates could knock down shots.
On the contrary, it couldn't have been more obvious that he was both told and resented being subjugated to Shaq's play-part of the team concept that was a big part of the riff. In other words, being part of a team that won championships wasn't satisfying.
Now he's finally center stage and the team's nowhere close to what it was. Which cave in Afghanistan were you living in that you didn't know this? ;)
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On the contrary, it couldn't have been more obvious that he was both told and resented being subjugated to Shaq's play-part of the team concept that was a big part of the riff. In other words, being part of a team that won championships wasn't satisfying.
Now he's finally center stage and the team's nowhere close to what it was. Which cave in Afghanistan were you living in that you didn't know this? ;)
I watch almost every televised Laker game and have for years. I've been a fan since the days of Norm Nixon, Jamal Wilkes, and Bob McAdoo. What was obvious to me when watching the Lakers during their last title run was they would not have won without Kobe, Shaq, AND Phil. And it was Kobe who often carried the team in the 4th quarter, because Shaq couldn't hit his free throws. It was Kobe who was the best defender on the team and who generally led the team in assists.
And just fyi, selfish players don't play defense.
Kobe is center stage on an injury-riddled team that currently isn't good enough to bring home a title.
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I watch almost every televised Laker game and have for years. I've been a fan since the days of Norm Nixon, Jamal Wilkes, and Bob McAdoo. What was obvious to me when watching the Lakers during their last title run was they would not have won without Kobe, Shaq, AND Phil. And it was Kobe who often carried the team in the 4th quarter, because Shaq couldn't hit his free throws. It was Kobe who was the best defender on the team and who generally led the team in assists.
And just fyi, selfish players don't play defense.
Kobe is center stage on an injury-riddled team that currently isn't good enough to bring home a title.
The current team's a convenient excuse; they're not winning with Kobe hogging the ball. He was allowed to do that only when needed within the team context that won in previous years.
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The current team's a convenient excuse; they're not winning with Kobe hogging the ball. He was allowed to do that only when needed within the team context that won in previous years.
I have to assume you don't watch the Lakers play much. :)
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I have to assume you don't watch the Lakers play much. :)
I was spoiled in the 80s; they and the Celtics make today's teams seem trite. ;)
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I was spoiled in the 80s; they and the Celtics make today's teams seem trite. ;)
Oh we are in complete agreement there. Some of my fondest memories are the great Lakers/Celtics battles of the 80s. I don't think we will ever see teams with three Hall of Famers each playing at that level again.
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Oh we are in complete agreement there. Some of my fondest memories are the great Lakers/Celtics battles of the 80s. I don't think we will ever see teams with three Hall of Famers each playing at that level again.
I don't think that the Bulls teams in the 1990's wouldn't have beaten the great Celtic or Lakers teams of the early to mid 1980's. Those teams were just so much deeper than the Bulls once you get past Jordan and Pippen. I don't think the Bulls would have beaten the 1982-83 Philedelphia 76ers either.
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I have to assume you don't watch the Lakers play much. :)
I doubt Pumpster has actually watched a game in his life.
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I don't think that the Bulls teams in the 1990's wouldn't have beaten the great Celtic or Lakers teams of the early to mid 1980's. Those teams were just so much deeper than the Bulls once you get past Jordan and Pippen. I don't think the Bulls would have beaten the 1982-83 Philedelphia 76ers either.
I agree.