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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #125 on: August 19, 2015, 07:34:09 PM »
As sorry as a line up that includes members that have been convicted?  Members that are currently indicted.  Members that are currently under federal investigation.  Members that still think the Earth is 6000 years old and some invisible man in the sky told them to run?  Members that have the lowest approval ratings for their gov'n duties in the countries?  Members that head the states with some of the lowest ratings in various categories (business, job growth, etc..)?

Actually in light of these facts, the Dem line up doesn't look too bad at all.  Hence the reason a liberal is ranking at #1 in the polls for the Repub team as it is. 

Even if we assume the GOP has a sorry lineup, that doesn't make Hillary, Bernie Sanders et al. look any better. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #126 on: August 19, 2015, 08:07:22 PM »
Even if we assume the GOP has a sorry lineup, that doesn't make Hillary, Bernie Sanders et al. look any better. 

it is a crap year all around.

Worse is that repubs have some solid choices - a few of them would have whipped romney's ass in 2012 - and they're blowing it by worshipping this blowhard buffoon. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #127 on: August 20, 2015, 05:39:27 AM »
Even if we assume the GOP has a sorry lineup, that doesn't make Hillary, Bernie Sanders et al. look any better. 

Of course it does.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #128 on: August 20, 2015, 05:59:22 AM »
Even if we assume the GOP has a sorry lineup, that doesn't make Hillary, Bernie Sanders et al. look any better. 

There is no assuming.  The GOP is a sorry line up.  Laughable anyone would call the Dems sorry when that motley crew is sitting across the aisle representing the cream of the crop of their own party.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #129 on: August 20, 2015, 11:17:38 AM »
Of course it does.

No it doesn't.  That makes no sense. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #130 on: August 20, 2015, 11:21:42 AM »
There is no assuming.  The GOP is a sorry line up.  Laughable anyone would call the Dems sorry when that motley crew is sitting across the aisle representing the cream of the crop of their own party.

This makes no sense either.  A candidate is good, bad, great, etc. because of what that candidate brings to the table, not because other candidates might have flaws.  For example, Perry is a lousy debater.  That isn't going to change because Hillary is dishonest, has poor judgment, etc. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #131 on: August 20, 2015, 11:24:07 AM »
Dems have a very thin lineup.   Toss in Biden and Gore, and Hilary is suddenly 3rd or worse.  Without servergate, hilary is enjoying a coronation, particularly against Trump.

Repubs lineup is actually decent - Christie, Rand, Rubio, Jeb, Cruz, Walker - ANY of these men could a strong frontrunner right now.  They just can't get any airtime, thanks to trump.  So people aren't learning them, donors and youth movements aren't starting.   

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #132 on: August 20, 2015, 11:34:27 AM »
This makes no sense either.  A candidate is good, bad, great, etc. because of what that candidate brings to the table, not because other candidates might have flaws.  For example, Perry is a lousy debater.  That isn't going to change because Hillary is dishonest, has poor judgment, etc. 

How many of the Repubs are "good" candidates?  ::)   Let's try this a different way.

Which of the Dems are under indictment?  Investigation?  Have convictions?
Which of the Dems have the lowest approval ratings?
Which Dem is responsible for shitty lack luster economic rating of their home state?
Which one of the Dems claim God wants him to run?

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #133 on: August 20, 2015, 11:37:36 AM »
How many of the Repubs are "good" candidates?  ::)   Let's try this a different way.

Which of the Dems are under indictment?  Investigation?  Have convictions?
Which of the Dems have the lowest approval ratings?
Which Dem is responsible for shitty lack luster economic rating of their home state?
Which one of the Dems claim God wants him to run?

You are missing the point.  It doesn't matter if there are no "good" Republican candidates.  That has nothing to with whether Hillary, Sanders, Chaffey, etc. are "good" or lousy candidates.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #134 on: August 20, 2015, 11:43:23 AM »
You are missing the point.  It doesn't matter if there are no "good" Republican candidates.  That has nothing to with whether Hillary, Sanders, Chaffey, etc. are "good" or lousy candidates.

Actually it does matter.  You will vote for the candidate with a "R" next to their name no matter what.  The Dems could run a Jesus/Mother Teresa ticket and right wing idiots will still vote for whatever turd the GOP offers up. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #135 on: August 20, 2015, 11:46:39 AM »
Actually it does matter.  You will vote for the candidate with a "R" next to their name no matter what.  The Dems could run a Jesus/Mother Teresa ticket and right wing idiots will still vote for whatever turd the GOP offers up. 

You mean like I voted for Democrat Tulsi Gabbard in the last election? 

People voting along party lines has zero to do with whether a given candidate is good or bad. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #136 on: August 20, 2015, 11:49:12 AM »
Actually it does matter.  You will vote for the candidate with a "R" next to their name no matter what.  The Dems could run a Jesus/Mother Teresa ticket and right wing idiots will still vote for whatever turd the GOP offers up. 

disagree.   Dos Equis is entirely capable of voting for a clinton.  I vouch for him there.

and i have to give him props for not getting on the democrat Trump's bandwagon like some of the pretend-republicans on getbig.  He's shit all over trump from minute one, and hasn't turned into a Donald Lapdog like others have because FOX starting being all sweet to him.  It's sickening seeing so many repubs just smile and say "yeah, i don't care about his positions on guns, taxes, abortion, etc - He is a strong leader!!" 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #137 on: August 20, 2015, 11:57:54 AM »
You mean like I voted for Democrat Tulsi Gabbard in the last election? 

People voting along party lines has zero to do with whether a given candidate is good or bad. 

Was unaware she ran for POTUS.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #138 on: August 20, 2015, 11:58:37 AM »
Was unaware she ran for POTUS.
Congress woman.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #139 on: August 20, 2015, 12:00:53 PM »
Congress woman.

I know that.  But this thread is about the POTUS candidates.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #140 on: August 20, 2015, 12:02:25 PM »
I know that.  But this thread is about the POTUS candidates.

Well you did state that he will always vote with the (R)... So that's somewhat of an incorrect statement. There was no requirement for it to be for the President of the United States.

That's all.


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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #141 on: August 20, 2015, 12:18:10 PM »
Well you did state that he will always vote with the (R)... So that's somewhat of an incorrect statement. There was no requirement for it to be for the President of the United States.

That's all.



I assumed that since we were discussing POTUS candidates it would fall within reason that is what I was referring to.  Sorry for not being more clear.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #142 on: August 21, 2015, 04:01:13 PM »
disagree.   Dos Equis is entirely capable of voting for a clinton.  I vouch for him there.

and i have to give him props for not getting on the democrat Trump's bandwagon like some of the pretend-republicans on getbig.  He's shit all over trump from minute one, and hasn't turned into a Donald Lapdog like others have because FOX starting being all sweet to him.  It's sickening seeing so many repubs just smile and say "yeah, i don't care about his positions on guns, taxes, abortion, etc - He is a strong leader!!" 

Your first mistake is thinking anyone cares what you think. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #143 on: August 21, 2015, 04:01:36 PM »
Well you did state that he will always vote with the (R)... So that's somewhat of an incorrect statement. There was no requirement for it to be for the President of the United States.

That's all.



Exactly. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #144 on: August 21, 2015, 06:41:08 PM »
I assumed that since we were discussing POTUS candidates it would fall within reason that is what I was referring to.  Sorry for not being more clear.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #145 on: August 21, 2015, 11:53:22 PM »
Your first mistake is thinking anyone cares what you think.  

You do care.  Deep down, we have that Trump dislike in common.  We both know he's a common immature democrat, taking the populist route thru idiot town, sapping up all the base voters who believe we're made of PBR and star-spangled awesomeness.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #146 on: August 22, 2015, 09:55:07 AM »
You do care.  Deep down, we have that Trump dislike in common.  We both know he's a common immature democrat, taking the populist route thru idiot town, sapping up all the base voters who believe we're made of PBR and star-spangled awesomeness.

Trump is an asshole but in a field filled with them, he is comes out on top, because he is entertaining.

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #147 on: August 22, 2015, 11:03:26 AM »
Trump is an asshole but in a field filled with them, he is comes out on top, because he is entertaining.

YEAH..sums it up pretty well

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #148 on: August 24, 2015, 04:14:50 PM »
You do care.  Deep down, we have that Trump dislike in common.  We both know he's a common immature democrat, taking the populist route thru idiot town, sapping up all the base voters who believe we're made of PBR and star-spangled awesomeness.

No, I don't care what you think. 

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Re: Is Hillary Hiding Something
« Reply #149 on: August 24, 2015, 04:27:12 PM »
DHS has no record of State Dept. giving info for Clinton server audit, despite rules
By Malia Zimmerman
Published August 24, 2015
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The State Department does not appear to have submitted legally required information regarding Hillary Clinton's secret computer server to the Department of Homeland Security during her term as secretary, FoxNews.com has learned.

All federal government agencies are mandated to submit a list of systems, vulnerabilities and configuration issues to DHS every 30 days. The department then performs a "cyberscope audit" to ensure security, a responsibility the agency has had since 2010.

FoxNews.com learned of the lapse as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request submitted June 11. It is not clear if State Department officials in charge of compliance with the DHS audits knew of their boss's server, which has been shown to have included "top secret" information in emails.

Clinton headed the agency from 2009-2013. The DHS established the "Continuous Diagnostics and Mitigation" program in 2010, amid growing concerns government systems could be vulnerable to cyber attack. But Clinton's computer server, through which she and key aides sent and received tens of thousands of emails, was apparently never audited, according to DHS, which conducted a comprehensive search of Office of Cyber Security and Communications records after FoxNews.com lodged its request.

"Unfortunately, we were unable to locate or identify any responsive records," wrote Sandy Ford Page, chief of Freedom of Information Act operations for DHS.

The revelation means DHS never audited Clinton's server, and the State Department allowed Clinton to operate outside the federal mandate aimed at hardening defenses in federal networks, one cyber expert told Fox News.

The State Department has not provided a substantive response to a similar FOIA submitted by FoxNews.com in early June.

The State Department did not comment on media requests about why it did not comply with the DHS security review requirement.

"There are reviews and investigations under way, including by the IG and Congress," said State Department Spokesman Alec Gerlach. "It would not be appropriate to comment on these matters at this time."

Denver-based Platte River Networks upgraded and maintained the server Clinton shares with her husband, former President Bill Clinton, after she left the State Department.

The company is not on the list of contractors approved by the Pentagon's Defense Security Service, the only federal agency with the authority to review and approve private contractors. The department administers the National Industrial Security Program on behalf of the Pentagon and 30 other federal agencies, including the State Department. About 13,000 companies have received clearance.

"But Platte River is not one of them," a spokesman for the DSS told Fox News. "As Platte River Networks is not a cleared facility under the National Industrial Security Program, DSS has no cognizance over the facility and cannot comment further."

Clinton, the leading contender for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, and the State Department have been under fire in recent months after it was revealed Clinton had a "homebrew" server and private Blackberry system that could have left classified or sensitive government data open to hackers.

Clinton maintains her use of a private email server was allowed under government regulations and her system was secure.

But this followed the news Clinton wiped her server of some 31,000 private email messages, turning over just 30,000 hard copies of her emails to the State Department amid a congressional investigation into her actions during the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, where four U.S. personnel including the U.S. ambassador to Libya were killed.

While Clinton has maintained that she neither sent nor received information marked classified on her private server or Blackberry, Reuters reported last week that dozens of emails that passed through Clinton's server while she was secretary of state, under the U.S. government's own regulations, were automatically considered classified.

That includes 30 email threads starting as early as 2009, which contained information on foreign governments, Reuters said.

The FBI has opened an investigation to determine whether or not Clinton's private email server was secure and if classified material was improperly shared or stored on the Clintons' private email account.

A federal court hearing last week only added to the intrigue. The State Department asserted in a court filing that it did not give personal electronic devices to Clinton and may have destroyed the smartphones of her top aides, Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills.

"If the State Department was not providing secure email devices to Mrs. Clinton, who was? Best Buy? Target? Mrs. Clinton clearly did whatever she wanted, without regard to national security or federal records keeping laws," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton, who took the State Department to court over its lack of disclosure on the email and server issues.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/24/dhs-has-no-record-state-dept-giving-info-for-clinton-server-audit-despite-rules/?intcmp=hpbt1