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Title: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 27, 2010, 09:13:55 AM
I was arguing with a friend who was screaming about society's downfall and the rise in violence as seen by these numerous youtube clips.

My argument is that mankind has always been fucked up and violent, it's just that youtube has allowed us to see more shit that we'd never see or hear about 10 or 20 years ago.


discuss.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: kiwiol on July 27, 2010, 09:22:57 AM
Definitely the latter, although it probably feeds into a vicious cycle and triggers / encourages similar behaviour from the feeble minded who think what they're seeing is cool and want to repeat it or do it "better". Immigration trends and (d)evolving of culture plays a big part too.

The internet and mobile phone technology allows us to see and hear a lot of things that the media would never cover, which was the only way people came to know about such things up until the early 90s, unless they or someone they knew witnessed the incident in some way. Same as how Getbig has opened our eyes to all the sordid stuff that has been going on in bodybuilding over the years and which we would've never known about from just reading FLEX or MD.

Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: jon cole on July 27, 2010, 09:26:59 AM
youtube let us see more.

rape murder violence etc etc = human being, since the beginning of the world.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Rami on July 27, 2010, 09:28:52 AM
Encouraged by violence?  Some truly primitive fuckers out there.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: devilsmile on July 27, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
well... things ARE much more fucked up, violence has expanded, vastly... everything is more violent these days. It has allways been but ow it's more expanded.

but it sure is COOOOL as hell  :P









Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: polychronopolous on July 27, 2010, 09:35:18 AM
youtube let us see more.

rape murder violence etc etc = human being, since the beginning of the world.

X2

Imagine if they had youtube during the Dark Ages.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Lundgren on July 27, 2010, 09:40:50 AM
X2

Imagine if they had youtube during the Dark Ages.
for me it's the opposite. The internet has convinced  people aren't near as evil as i use to think, were just fucking weak minded animals. Nazi' thought they were good people, child molestors, muderer's etc.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: devilsmile on July 27, 2010, 09:47:05 AM
for me it's the opposite. The internet has convinced  people aren't near as evil as i use to think, were just fucking weak minded animals. Nazi' thought they were good people, child molestors, muderer's etc.

LOL, nazi  ::)..... why not use african tribe leaders, cesars, the jews (babylonians) and other people as an example... nazism wasn't the first tyrann and it certainly wasn't the worst of it's kind.

and people are more fucked up today than before, even though the shit was more public in the old days with public hand to hand combat till death, public executions etc etc.... but the shit we do now days is nothing compared.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Army of One on July 27, 2010, 09:52:23 AM
I think rather than youtube, theync and sites like that really has opened my eyes to the depravity that people are capable of, like has been said up until around 97 or so it just wasnt possible to show the public such things.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: jaejonna on July 27, 2010, 09:56:54 AM
Crazy black guy deserves everything he has in this life ..
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: devilsmile on July 27, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
Crazy black guy deserves everything he has in this life ..

I thought the video is the funniest shit ever :D

this video in the other hand  >:(

Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: jtsunami on July 27, 2010, 10:28:08 AM
I was arguing with a friend who was screaming about society's downfall and the rise in violence as seen by these numerous youtube clips.

My argument is that mankind has always been fucked up and violent, it's just that youtube has allowed us to see more shit that we'd never see or hear about 10 or 20 years ago.


discuss.

crime is on the downfall despite what you see
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 27, 2010, 03:51:39 PM
Everyone has always wanted to get their 15 minutes one way or another. The internet however has brought us humility. Anonymous posting on the brain that is the internet is the single most greatest thing for mankind to help us move forward. It's the subconscious of the machine itself.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Lundgren on July 27, 2010, 03:58:45 PM
LOL, nazi  ::)..... why not use african tribe leaders, cesars, the jews (babylonians) and other people as an example... nazism wasn't the first tyrann and it certainly wasn't the worst of it's kind.

and people are more fucked up today than before, even though the shit was more public in the old days with public hand to hand combat till death, public executions etc etc.... but the shit we do now days is nothing compared.
Hmm lol, well the nazi's are the ones everyone knows, as the most evil, however i think it's a joke as well btw.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: TRIX on July 27, 2010, 04:18:55 PM
I'd hate to be a female. Weak and pathetic and could be raped or killed at any moment.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Master Blaster on July 27, 2010, 04:25:18 PM
I'd hate to be a female. Weak and pathetic and could be raped or killed at any moment.

What's the downside?
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: _bruce_ on July 28, 2010, 02:13:47 PM
You can see more of it and the population density is way higher = more shit happening.
I think it was way worse in the dark ages.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: benchmstr on July 28, 2010, 02:31:55 PM
well... things ARE much more fucked up, violence has expanded, vastly... everything is more violent these days. It has allways been but ow it's more expanded.

but it sure is COOOOL as hell  :P










hahahaah that crazy black guy video makes me laugh everytime i watch it ;D

bench
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: ThaRealist on July 28, 2010, 08:47:16 PM
Oh hell, the news media is going to be controlled by we the people with how fast and broad we can broadcast anything news worthy or not....In another decade no longer will the news outlets feed us "truth" we will have it broadcast by our next door neighbors and everyone alike
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Stark on July 29, 2010, 07:47:39 AM
Anybody interested and knowledgeable in sociology can testify that we are way less violent that people were in the old (100+ years ago) were.
Now this may seem illogical but its a proven fact and I be more than happy to explain it in detail.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Playboy on July 29, 2010, 07:53:44 AM
I was arguing with a friend who was screaming about society's downfall and the rise in violence as seen by these numerous youtube clips.

My argument is that mankind has always been fucked up and violent, it's just that youtube has allowed us to see more shit that we'd never see or hear about 10 or 20 years ago.


discuss.
Society is fucked up. I got a buddy here in Toronto who is in the guns & gangs division with OPP and he seess tons of murders and beatings that don't get pubicized on the news because they don't want to scare the general public.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: JasonH on July 29, 2010, 08:04:37 AM
Anybody interested and knowledgeable in sociology can testify that we are way less violent that people were in the old (100+ years ago) were.
Now this may seem illogical but its a proven fact and I be more than happy to explain it in detail.

Agreed - just look at the torture and capital punishment methods they had back in the middle ages and even before that - there were some fucked up people back then. And the world was a lot less populated and so by and large it proves that people were more violent then and civilisation was not as developed.

Going by this theory I predict that crime will be almost obsolete in about 500-1000 years or so - society and technoology will have improved to such an extent that people's behaviour will have hanged with it. It'll be something similar to that Minority Report film.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Stark on July 29, 2010, 08:26:54 AM
Agreed - just look at the torture and capital punishment methods they had back in the middle ages and even before that - there were some fucked up people back then. And the world was a lot less populated and so by and large it proves that people were more violent then and civilisation was not as developed.

Going by this theory I predict that crime will be almost obsolete in about 500-1000 years or so - society and technoology will have improved to such an extent that people's behaviour will have hanged with it. It'll be something similar to that Minority Report film.

There are countries that have zero crime rate - Saudi Arabia would be one.
What the world needs (and I am aware this is very radical) is to reset itself.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 29, 2010, 09:26:21 PM
There are countries that have zero crime rate - Saudi Arabia would be one.

haha Saudia Arabia not only has crime like every other country but they also have mutaween running around harassing people and enforcing religious law

gayer than wahhabism
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on July 29, 2010, 09:45:24 PM
Oh hell, the news media is going to be controlled by we the people with how fast and broad we can broadcast anything news worthy or not....In another decade no longer will the news outlets feed us "truth" we will have it broadcast by our next door neighbors and everyone alike

Corporations control the media and they also control the internet.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Stark on July 30, 2010, 01:02:28 AM
haha Saudia Arabia not only has crime like every other country but they also have mutaween running around harassing people and enforcing religious law

gayer than wahhabism

Sure they have crime but to a much much much lesser extend than we have - especially petty crime
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: jr on July 30, 2010, 01:49:08 AM
Youtube is solely responsible for your perception of the world.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Ex Coelis on July 30, 2010, 05:55:11 AM
Sure they have crime but to a much much much lesser extend than we have - especially petty crime

getting lashed for eating in public with a woman you're not related to is pretty petty - hell, celebrating birthdays and anniversaries is forbidden

Saudi Arabia is a harsh theocracy where people live under constant abuse from religious police

it's laughable that Saudi Arabia should be anything to the West other than a cautionary example

gayer than Sharia Law

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/16/article-1220830-06D8F8D3000005DC-601_468x309.jpg)
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 30, 2010, 06:02:01 AM
Actually the world is far, far less violent now than it has been at different points in the past.  People like to romanticize the past, but damn they did some unreal stuff to each other....

just an example....at the battle of Gettysburg, the Confederacy lost 4 thousand men in just over two hourse of fighting at one point.  People scream about the death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan....if youtube, etc... existed during Civil War, WW1, WW2, etc.... it would have made todays carnage pale by comparison.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 30, 2010, 06:11:02 AM
Actually the world is far, far less violent now than it has been at different points in the past.  People like to romanticize the past, but damn they did some unreal stuff to each other....

just an example....at the battle of Gettysburg, the Confederacy lost 4 thousand men in just over two hourse of fighting at one point.  People scream about the death toll in Iraq and Afghanistan....if youtube, etc... existed during Civil War, WW1, WW2, etc.... it would have made todays carnage pale by comparison.
Not to mention Jimmy Snooka taking people out with the fly jump off the top rope.
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: The Showstoppa on July 30, 2010, 06:11:59 AM
Not to mention Jimmy Snooka taking people out with the fly jump off the top rope.

Or Abdullah using a fork he hid under his tit to carve someone up...
Title: Re: Is society getting more fucked up or does youtube just let us see more?
Post by: Mr Nobody on July 30, 2010, 06:25:40 AM
Or Abdullah using a fork he hid under his tit to carve someone up...
;D