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Title: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 03:50:15 PM
Why should we believe Bin Laden is dead?  

We've seen no evidence to say that he was killed?

When Saddam Hussein was killed ten Iraqi coroners examined his body. Supposedly though, Osama was killed and dumped in the sea with no autopsy within hours...

Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 03:54:56 PM
Because the military, the president, his administration, his family, and Al Qaeda say he's dead. 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: newmom on May 06, 2011, 03:55:35 PM
Because the military, the president, his administration, his family, and Al Qaeda say he's dead. 

no liars there ::)
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 03:58:43 PM
no liars there ::)

I guess they could all be lying, but that would make this just like that nutty 9/11 conspiracy theory. 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 03:59:03 PM
Because the military, the president, his administration, his family, and Al Qaeda say he's dead. 

Hearsay, and I wouldn't trust the people (our president for example) who have supposedly seen direct proof for one second.

I was psyched like anyone else, but we've seen no proof.  Just like we never saw anything connecting Osama Bin Laden to 9/11. (Not that we don't have proof he was responsible for other attacks against our country.)
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 04:00:18 PM
no liars there ::)

lol

 ;D
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 04:02:15 PM
Hearsay, and I wouldn't trust the people (our president for example) who have supposedly seen direct proof for one second.

I was psyched like anyone else, but we've seen no proof.  Just like we never saw anything connecting Osama Bin Laden to 9/11. (Not that we don't have proof he was responsible for other attacks against our country.)

You think all of those folks are just making this up? 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 04:07:20 PM
You think all of those folks are just making this up?  

I don't know for sure, but none of us have seen proof that Osama Bin Laden was killed.

Many of these (otherwise good honest) people who've seen proof probably aren't very objective considering their position and interests, and probably don't even know what they're looking at.  

I certainly don't trust Al Qaeda, Obama, CIA, parts of our Military, or the Bin Laden family who supposedly cut ties with Osama.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 04:10:25 PM
I don't know for sure, but none of us have seen proof that Osama Bin Laden was killed.

Many of these (otherwise good honest) people who've seen proof probably aren't very objective considering their position and interests, and probably don't even know what they're looking at.  

So his daughter who said she saw him die, is lying too? 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: 240 is Back on May 06, 2011, 04:11:17 PM
So his daughter who said she saw him die, is lying too? 

we haven't seen her long form birth cert, so...
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 04:12:32 PM
I certainly don't trust Al Qaeda, Obama, CIA, parts of our Military, or the Bin Laden family

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Osama bin Laden. Photo / AP
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Osama bin Laden. Photo / AP

Osama bin Laden's 12-year-old daughter has reportedly told Pakistani investigators that her father was captured alive by United States special forces and then shot dead in front of his family.

I think we all deserve some direct proof.

This is certainly fishy, I'm going to need more than the word of a twelve year old child.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 04:15:51 PM
I don't know her, or her motives.

I think we all deserve proof.


I see.  Just a massive conspiracy (contrary to your thread title).

I'd like to see the pictures, but even we do, people with vivid imaginations will say they are fake. 

In fact, if memory serves, some people on this board claimed Osama was dead years ago and that pictures of him (alive) put out by the government, etc. were fake. 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 04:19:53 PM
I see.  Just a massive conspiracy (contrary to your thread title).

I'd like to see the pictures, but even we do, people with vivid imaginations will say they are fake.  

In fact, if memory serves, some people on this board claimed Osama was dead years ago and that pictures of him (alive) put out by the government, etc. were fake.  

I didn't propose any conspiracy theory.  

Where is the proof that Osama Bin Laden was killed?

I'm not basing something this important on the words of a twelve year old girl, the Bin Laden family, Al Qaeda, Obama or our CIA (who has an undisputed long history of pulling stunts like this).

???
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 04:22:47 PM
They took the time to have ten Iraqi coroners examine Saddam Hussein, yet Bin Laden "the real target" is captured, and dumped in the sea within hours without any kind of examination. 

Huh...

Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: 225for70 on May 06, 2011, 04:25:27 PM
They took the time to have ten Iraqi coroners examine Saddam Hussein, yet Bin Laden "the real target" is captured, and dumped in the sea within hours without any kind of examination. 

Huh...



I think those of you who believe the Obama admin are still wet behind the ears.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Dos Equis on May 06, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
I didn't propose any conspiracy theory.  

Where is the proof that Osama Bin Laden was killed?

I'm not basing something this important on the words of a twelve year old girl, the Bin Laden family, Al Qaeda, Obama or our CIA (who has an undisputed long history of pulling stunts like this).

???

Right here:

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Because the military, the president, his administration, his family, and Al Qaeda say he's dead. 

And yes, you are alleging there is some grand conspiracy.  You believe all of those people are lying, in concert.  Absurd.  

If we were only talking about the president, maybe.  But the military, CIA, Al Qaeda, Osama's family, and Pakistanis all cooperating to tell the same lie?  I don't think so.  
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Roger Bacon on May 06, 2011, 04:27:58 PM
I think those of you who believe the Obama admin are still wet behind the ears.
I think those of you who believe the Obama admin are still wet behind the ears.
I think those of you who believe the Obama admin are still wet behind the ears.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: The True Adonis on May 06, 2011, 04:48:28 PM
I am going to agree with Beach Bum for once.   :o

Stop with the "Deather" conspiracy shit.  You didn`t get to see pictures of Gerald Ford`s body or Reagan`s but you don`t doubt that they are no longer living.

I guess you still think Elvis is alive too and Michael Jackson.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: tonymctones on May 06, 2011, 05:12:37 PM
They took the time to have ten Iraqi coroners examine Saddam Hussein, yet Bin Laden "the real target" is captured, and dumped in the sea within hours without any kind of examination. 

Huh...


who was pres when sadaam got caught?

who was pres when osama got caught?

to be honest does this seem out of line for his behaviour thus far in terms of not offending muslims?

what you should be asking yourself is why we spent the last 10 years differentiating between muslims and radical muslims and now dont want to release photos of someone we already said wasnt a muslim b/c we dont want to offend muslims
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 05:21:16 PM
Funny you clowns don't mention bush getting ksm the real mastermind of 911.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: SAMSON123 on May 06, 2011, 05:44:08 PM
Funny you clowns don't mention bush getting ksm the real mastermind of 911.

Maybe because only a clown believes KSM was the mastermind of 911... Just in case no one knows... 911 was a perfect case of DOMESTIC TERRORISM and FALSE FLAG operations.
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: FREAKgeek on May 06, 2011, 06:31:33 PM
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) – Al Qaeda confirmed on Friday that Osama bin Laden was dead, dispelling doubts by some Muslims the group's leader had really been killed by U.S. forces, and vowed to mount more attacks on the West.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110506/wl_nm/us_obama_statement
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 06:38:44 PM
Holy shit      Batchelorvshow tonight saying there was no burial at sea at all! 


Also saying panetta is the main hero in this in the govt.    Of course seals get all credit, but holy shit.   This guy saying that the wh has been lying from day 1 and that the seals dropped the body in the mountains somewhere. 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on May 06, 2011, 06:40:40 PM
Holy shit      Batchelorvshow tonight saying there was no burial at sea at all! 


Also saying panetta is the main hero in this in the govt.    Of course seals get all credit, but holy shit.   This guy saying that the wh has been lying from day 1 and that the seals dropped the body in the mountains somewhere. 

what? who is saying this?
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 06:43:22 PM
what? who is saying this?

John batchelor show.    They have some ex military dude on saying he is in touch w seals on this and that no burial at sea ever took place and that it was bam a trying to placate the muzzles.  You can listen live at www.johnbatchelorshow.co m.  Or podcast it Tommorow.    Great freaking show.   Just also blew away the jobs report. 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 06, 2011, 06:46:56 PM
Guys podcast this tomorrow.     Wow.    Crazy shit.   Obama lying his ass off.   
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: SAMSON123 on May 06, 2011, 07:36:43 PM
Why should we believe Bin Laden is dead?  

We've seen no evidence to say that he was killed?

When Saddam Hussein was killed ten Iraqi coroners examined his body. Supposedly though, Osama was killed and dumped in the sea with no autopsy within hours...



Good questions and you are very observant. Osama died back in 2002 and his death was announced by multiple countries including Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq etc. No intelligent person could possible believe a person, who is a dialysis patient, could last for more than a week or two without dialysis. That person would certainly not be able to romp around the mountains of Afghanistan or Pakistan or India etc as america's CIA has claimed.

Let us not forget Osama was a top CIA agent for america and was used to instigate the war between Afghansistan and Russia and his training of what is now known as the Taliban.







Al Qaiida just means "DATABASE" which was just a list of the names of the Taliban involved in the "training program". Add to this Osama was pronounced dead by Benazir Bhutto a couple of years ago...she told of who killed him and why... which was why she herself was killed by the CIA because they were using Osama as a BOOGEY MAN in the CIAs justification of the world wide terror HOAX.... her actions nearly killed their plan.



So far as the LIE about Bin Laden being dead...all you have to do is look at the lies spread about the supposed million dollar compound. The building was a abandoned shack that was filthy inside and lacked water, electricity, gas etc. The pictures from the american press went totally counter to what the media was announcing. DOes this look like a million dollar mansion? Looks more like a CRACK DEN.



How about this doozey of a video showing the ABANDONED BUILDING and claiming it has privacy walls and opaque windows, when in actuality there are no windows (glass) in the openings at all... It looks like an abandoned military training compound



Let us not forget this wonderful picture of a "DEAD OSAMA" notice his hair, facial expression all are EXACTLY the same dead as alive. Pictures also show that despite years of no pictures or videos of Osama...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT HIM HAS CHANGED!!!!..Amazing...he must be using OIL OF OLAY or something. Could this picture be FAKED?...nawww america would never do that...





As to proof of Osama being dead, you can't have proof of a person who has already been dead for nearly a decade...therefore the US government tells people he is dead and then claims to have disposed of the body in the sea, before people start asking to see it. TALK ABOUT A HOAX
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: 240 is Back on May 07, 2011, 04:10:48 AM
John batchelor show.    They have some ex military dude on saying he is in touch w seals on this and that no burial at sea ever took place and that it was bam a trying to placate the muzzles.

LOL!

shit just gets better and better!

Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2011, 05:08:40 AM
Listen to the podcast.  Its on his site.  Its the end of the first hour our beginning of the second hour.  You can get it right from the site. 
Title: Re: How do we know Bin Laden is dead? (no conspiracy)
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 07, 2011, 05:23:27 AM
http://johnbatchelorshow.com/jb/2011/05/fresh-explanation-bin-laden/