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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: affeman on June 30, 2022, 09:57:50 AM
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Juicers never get that dry fibery look to their muscles a legit bone-dry natty can achieve. Just look at the difference in the delts for example, Phil's delts look like one smooth blown-up balloon. The other guy is a natural Pro, and his delts don't look like they were just composed of 3 muscle-heads, rather each individual head has like 3 sub-heads to it lol
You could also never achieve that bone-dry separated look when you are injecting into your delts, as a small muscle like this immediately reacts with inflammation and holding water, leading to the typical "Phil"-look.
Discuss....
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Brutal if true
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Juicers never get that dry fibery look to their muscles a legit bone-dry natty can achieve. Just look at the difference in the delts for example, Phil's delts look like one smooth blown-up balloon. The other guy is a natural Pro, and his delts don't look like they were just composed of 3 muscle-heads, rather each individual head has like 3 sub-heads to it lol
You could also never achieve that bone-dry separated look when you are injecting into your delts, as a small muscle like this immediately reacts with inflammation and holding water, leading to the typical "Phil"-look.
Discuss....
Neither are natty.
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^That natty that you posted looks great, but, he has no calves!!!
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^That natty that you posted looks great, but, he has no calves!!!
rumor has it , that this guy could hook him up.
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Cool Story
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rumor has it , that this guy could hook him up.
Lou was known for his massive calves
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^That natty that you posted looks great, but, he has no calves!!!
Lou was known for his massive calves
Bro…
Lou was not natty.
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Affeman - no disrespect intended, but you either are joking or have no clue about BB. Ever heard of Andreas Munzer? From the boards Alex A?
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Lou was known for his massive calves calf implants
FIXED
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Hamdullah Aykutlu
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Affeman - no disrespect intended, but you either are joking or have no clue about BB. Ever heard of Andreas Munzer? From the boards Alex A?
Munzer was known for never injecting his upper body, that's why injection sites didn't interfere with his muscle striations in his delts. Munzer actually relied mostly on orals, that's probably why his organs gave up on him.
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Juicers never get that dry fibery look to their muscles a legit bone-dry natty can achieve. Just look at the difference in the delts for example, Phil's delts look like one smooth blown-up balloon. The other guy is a natural Pro, and his delts don't look like they were just composed of 3 muscle-heads, rather each individual head has like 3 sub-heads to it lol
You could also never achieve that bone-dry separated look when you are injecting into your delts, as a small muscle like this immediately reacts with inflammation and holding water, leading to the typical "Phil"-look.
Discuss....
Typical look? How "typical" is a 7-time Mr. Olympia? Plus, chasing that "dry" look is getting a lot of bodybuilders hospitalized, if not killed. Heath, in his prime, had a much healthier look to him.
This may sound like blasphemy today. But, there was a time where bodybuilders got marked DOWN for being too shredded and "dry". The judges back then said the look wasn't healthy.
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Most natty's are liars, including that guy above...
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Munzer was known for never injecting his upper body, that's why injection sites didn't interfere with his muscle striations in his delts. Munzer actually relied mostly on orals, that's probably why his organs gave up on him.
Munzer injected plenty. Dorian would get dry as fck! You’ve not competed and don’t understand man. I’ve met a ton of pros (90’s early 2000’s) and they got insanely conditioned. Injections don’t ruin it. I’m 100% certain most inject in glutes. Guys used to get insanely shredded glutes. Looking at pics online it’s hard to see, but in person you would be shocked.
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“Bloofy” is the preferred term, rubber muscle-suit blown up from within.
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Munzer was known for never injecting his upper body, that's why injection sites didn't interfere with his muscle striations in his delts. Munzer actually relied mostly on orals, that's probably why his organs gave up on him.
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;) ;) ;) ;)
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He's a supposed "natty" guy, right?
That level of muscular development and body fat percentage, is simply impossible, without the help of drugs.
I actually feel bad for a guy like this. He's willing to lie, when everyone with a brain knows he's using.
What else is he capable of doing?
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;) ;) ;) ;)
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Completely achievable naturally with the right combination of duck eggs and heavy cream.
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He's a supposed "natty" guy, right?
That level of muscular development and body fat percentage, is simply impossible, without the help of drugs.
I actually feel bad for a guy like this. He's willing to lie, when everyone with a brain knows he's using.
What else is he capable of doing?
Doug (Drug) Miller.
He now owns supplement lines, stores and gyms, very smart / driven dude.
Core Nutritionals
Merica Labz
Arms Race Nutrition
Nutrition Corner (Store)
Crush-It Coliseum (Gym)
All Natty bro, pure natty!! ;)
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Munzer was known for never injecting his upper body, that's why injection sites didn't interfere with his muscle striations in his delts. Munzer actually relied mostly on orals, that's probably why his organs gave up on him.
Pretty sure it was lasix, not steroids that killed Munzer.
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Pretty sure it was lasix, not steroids that killed Munzer.
Dude Munzers organs literally fell apart, his liver was crumbling like pastry by the time of the autopsy, that' doesn't happen from 1 or 2 Lasix before the show, that's from years and years of heavy abuse of orals.
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No nattys in this thread.
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Having done a few cycles back in the day ( Deca and Anavar) but being natty for most of my adult life I’d say the advantages of being natty are that you’re not held hostage to the gear and you don’t have to sweat the health risks.
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Having done a few cycles back in the day ( Deca and Anavar) but being natty for most of my adult life I’d say the advantages of being natty are that you’re not held hostage to the gear and you don’t have to sweat the health risks.
Good points.
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Having done a few cycles back in the day ( Deca and Anavar) but being natty for most of my adult life I’d say the advantages of being natty are that you’re not held hostage to the gear and you don’t have to sweat the health risks.
And I always got a sense of satisfaction knowing that that I developed myself naturally with permanent muscles that weren't dependent on drugs.. How can a person be proud of building a good physique when he knows it's dependent on drugs he injects in his ass? it's so phony..
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And I always got a sense of satisfaction knowing that that I developed myself naturally with permanent muscles that weren't dependent on drugs.. How can a person be proud of building a good physique when he knows it's dependent on drugs he injects in his ass? it's so phony..
lol
stop lifting see how that pans out
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And I always got a sense of satisfaction knowing that that I developed myself naturally with permanent muscles that weren't dependent on drugs.. How can a person be proud of building a good physique when he knows it's dependent on drugs he injects in his ass? it's so phony..
No such thing as permanent muscles but I get your point.
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I did stop lifting for 6 months at a time and still looked like I was training. You guys must not have very good genetics.
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I did stop lifting for 6 months at a time and still looked like I was training. You guys must not have very good genetics.
I'm a natty myself. Drug users do retain some of the gains they made while on drugs.
They still have to train as do nattys to prevent atrophy.
6 months is not long enough to lose much from not training. Take a couple years off and you'll lose alot of muscle mass and strength.
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Honestly, from many years around juicers I don't think they retain ANY of the muscles/strength when they come off....I've seen guys go down to nothing when stopping the drugs.
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Honestly, from many years around juicers I don't think they retain ANY of the muscles/strength when they come off....I've seen guys go down to nothing when stopping the drugs.
Most of them stop working out completely when they go off.
They only are after glory.
The majority of people don't enjoy working out.
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Honestly, from many years around juicers I don't think they retain ANY of the muscles/strength when they come off....I've seen guys go down to nothing when stopping the drugs.
thats because they gain more than their genetic natural limitations
Most natties only gain around 25lbs of real lean tissue in a lifetime
Juicers gain around 100 then lose it.
Former pros always have the shock effect
Muscles just expand and enlarge that way, you dont create new muscle tissue, hyperplasia doesnt take place
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Natties can get into great condition, no doubt. But IMO can't compete if a juicer knows what he's doing... The problem is most pros are too reliant on high testerona + insulin precontest in their quest to load up and be as big as possible = unavoidable spillover/estrogen convertion i.e bloofyness
Lower test usage (if any at all) pre contest, more reliance on anadrogenics + hard dieting.. and a natty will never compete against the "chemical look" of a guy like this...sex drive will be in the gutter, but so will a natties be precontest (or anyone that gets in exceptional precontest condition)
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We need to get an expert's opinion on this...Bhanky, what do you think?
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natty gyno?
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We need to get an expert's opinion on this...Bhanky, what do you think?
this guy only weighs around 190 at 6ft
Hanky owns him onstage/offstage (I cant remember which)
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Most of them stop working out completely when they go off.
They only are after glory.
The majority of people don't enjoy working out.
bodybuilding while off is just futile. I still exercise and train for health but there's no way im gonna try to build muscle
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I think the guys that know what they are doing lose size but get leaner when they stop chaising gains
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Drug Miller
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bodybuilding while off is just futile. I still exercise and train for health but there's no way im gonna try to build muscle
The learning curve applies fully.
When you start and figure out how to train there’s a period of growth but after that it’s just maintenance and eventually just trying to hold on to what you have.
That said, Natty bodybuilding is useful for older people for strength maintenance and bone density so you’re less likely to have fractures.
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I'm a natty myself. Drug users do retain some of the gains they made while on drugs.
They still have to train as do nattys to prevent atrophy.
6 months is not long enough to lose much from not training. Take a couple years off and you'll lose alot of muscle mass and strength.
Are there any conclusive studies to support this? From what I’ve seen they eventually lose everything.
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Are there any conclusive studies to support this? From what I’ve seen they eventually lose everything.
Which part?
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Which part?
That former steroid users retain some of their synthetic gains permanently.
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That former steroid users retain some of their synthetic gains permanently.
How can you be a doubter?
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The only true natty here is me
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How can you be a doubter?
Uhh, bro...
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Uhh, bro...
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😂
I was thinking of this guy but couldn’t remember his name. Tom Prince is another.
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I was thinking of this guy but couldn’t remember his name. Tom Prince is another.
They're all like that, is the thing.
Jean Pierre Fux lol.
...Dude was once the most muscular bodybuilder alive, but today looks like he has never touched a weight in his life. (In fact he looks just like the Norf FC meme.)
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Tom Peoncr had kidney failure and a transplant for fuck sake that is not typical
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The 8 Massive Bodybuilders Who Completely Lost Their Gains – Fitness Volt
https://fitnessvolt.com/bodybuilders-completely-lost-muscles/