Russia has penetrated Ukraine

[IroNat]

As Tank Losses Top 2,000, Russia Is Deploying Museum-Grade T-72s From 1974

Russian forces in Ukraine have lost around five tanks, on average, every day for more than 460 days since Russia widened its war on the country.

That’s a lot of tanks. The analysts at Oryx, a collective that tallies wartime equipment losses by scrutinizing photos and videos on social media, have counted no fewer than 2,003 destroyed, damaged and captured Russian tanks. And since some tank losses leave no photographic evidence, Oryx’s count almost definitely is an undercount.

Russia has written off probably around two-thirds of the roughly 3,500 tanks it had in active service before the wider war. Russia’s two main tank plants meanwhile are struggling to build more than a couple dozen new tanks a month, owing in part to a shortage of high-tech components that’s exacerbated by foreign sanctions.

High losses and low production help to explain why most of Russia’s replacement tanks are old tanks that technicians pulled out of open storage, lightly refurbished and sent to the front with few or no major upgrades. A survey of reequipped Russian regiments is like a tour of a tank museum. There are 1978-vintage T-80s, T-62s from the mid-1960s and even T-55s from the late 1950s.

The latest Russian museum tank to roll into combat is the T-72 Ural, the original model of the tank type that has been standard across the Russian and allied armies for five decades. The Uralvagonzavod factory in central Russia manufactured Urals for just a few years before switching to improved T-72 models in the late 1970s.

A 1974-vintage T-72 Ural might look a lot like a T-72B3 from 2023. But on the inside, it’s a totally different—and much cruder—vehicle. One that’s only marginally better than a T-55, and actually inferior to many T-62 models.

Lightly protected, blind at night and slow to calculate range, a T-72 Ural is next to useless in a serious fight on a modern battlefield. It might be a better tank than a 70-year-old T-55. But it’s not better than a T-62MV that went through a deep upgrade program in the 1980s. And we know how the T-62 has fared in Ukraine.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/06/01/as-tank-losses-top-2000-russia-is-deploying-museum-grade-t-72s-from-1974/?sh=5f1fbe046efc

Tanks are obsolete nowadays.

Without air and infantry support they are deathtraps.

Tanks must work in tandem with infantry which protect the tanks from attack.

Even air is becoming obsolete unless opposing air defenses have been wiped out.

Missiles, air defense, drones, and artillery are where it's at.  Hi-tech.

[IroNat]

[obsidian]

As Tank Losses Top 2,000, Russia Is Deploying Museum-Grade T-72s From 1974

Russian forces in Ukraine have lost around five tanks, on average, every day for more than 460 days since Russia widened its war on the country.

That’s a lot of tanks. The analysts at Oryx, a collective that tallies wartime equipment losses by scrutinizing photos and videos on social media, have counted no fewer than 2,003 destroyed, damaged and captured Russian tanks. And since some tank losses leave no photographic evidence, Oryx’s count almost definitely is an undercount.

Russia has written off probably around two-thirds of the roughly 3,500 tanks it had in active service before the wider war. Russia’s two main tank plants meanwhile are struggling to build more than a couple dozen new tanks a month, owing in part to a shortage of high-tech components that’s exacerbated by foreign sanctions.

High losses and low production help to explain why most of Russia’s replacement tanks are old tanks that technicians pulled out of open storage, lightly refurbished and sent to the front with few or no major upgrades. A survey of reequipped Russian regiments is like a tour of a tank museum. There are 1978-vintage T-80s, T-62s from the mid-1960s and even T-55s from the late 1950s.

The latest Russian museum tank to roll into combat is the T-72 Ural, the original model of the tank type that has been standard across the Russian and allied armies for five decades. The Uralvagonzavod factory in central Russia manufactured Urals for just a few years before switching to improved T-72 models in the late 1970s.

A 1974-vintage T-72 Ural might look a lot like a T-72B3 from 2023. But on the inside, it’s a totally different—and much cruder—vehicle. One that’s only marginally better than a T-55, and actually inferior to many T-62 models.

Lightly protected, blind at night and slow to calculate range, a T-72 Ural is next to useless in a serious fight on a modern battlefield. It might be a better tank than a 70-year-old T-55. But it’s not better than a T-62MV that went through a deep upgrade program in the 1980s. And we know how the T-62 has fared in Ukraine.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/06/01/as-tank-losses-top-2000-russia-is-deploying-museum-grade-t-72s-from-1974/?sh=5f1fbe046efc

Sounds like Ukraine is winning!!

[obsidian]

Tanks are obsolete nowadays.

Without air and infantry support they are deathtraps.

Tanks must work in tandem with infantry which protect the tanks from attack.

Even air is becoming obsolete unless opposing air defenses have been wiped out.

Missiles, air defense, drones, and artillery are where it's at.  Hi-tech.

Nonsense. Ukraine is winning!

[obsidian]

They miscalculated.

Once the Russian juggernaut ramps up Ukraine will be ground to dust.

This assumes NATO does not put it's own troops on the ground or in the air to fight Russia (already has "advisors" in Ukraine).

Hopefully, WW3 doesn't start along the way.

Run what ya brung. If NATO puts troops on the ground Russia should drop a big Tsar Bomba (100 megaton version) on they asses to traumatize the West.

[obsidian]

Tanks are obsolete nowadays.

Without air and infantry support they are deathtraps.

Tanks must work in tandem with infantry which protect the tanks from attack.

Even air is becoming obsolete unless opposing air defenses have been wiped out.

Missiles, air defense, drones, and artillery are where it's at.  Hi-tech.

Yes, tanks, air craft carriers are obsolete. All you need is hypersonic nukes.

[Kwon]

Run what ya brung. If NATO puts troops on the ground Russia should drop a big Tsar Bomba (100 megaton version) on they asses to traumatize the West.

This!

[Matt]

Run what ya brung. If NATO puts troops on the ground Russia should drop a big Tsar Bomba (100 megaton version) on they asses to traumatize the West.

Yep. This is a "Fuck around and find out" thing.

Even if the West/NATO wins, a billion people could die.

I wonder if that's the point.

[obsidian]

Yep. This is a "Fuck around and find out" thing.

Even if the West/NATO wins, a billion people could die.

I wonder if that's the point.

Maybe.

[Griffith]

Tanks are obsolete nowadays.

Without air and infantry support they are deathtraps.

Tanks must work in tandem with infantry which protect the tanks from attack.

Even air is becoming obsolete unless opposing air defenses have been wiped out.

Missiles, air defense, drones, and artillery are where it's at.  Hi-tech.

Which is how the Russians deploy them for some reason. Often in long lines with no other protection.

Most of the Russian tanks have been destroyed by anti-tank missiles and drones.

[obsidian]

https://www.rt.com/russia/577445-ukraine-strike-airfield-drone/

Russia strikes Ukrainian airfields – Defense Ministry
Kiev’s aircraft, radar installations and ammo depots have been hit, the Russian military says


FILE PHOTO: Ukrainian Su-27 UB fighter jet at a military airbase in the twon of Starokostyantynov. ©  AFP / Genya Savilov

Russia conducted airstrikes overnight targeting Ukrainian military airfields, and delivering significant damage to aircraft and facilities, Moscow’s Defense Ministry has said.

The attack, which was carried with the use of “long-range precision-guided air-launched weapons,” achieved its goal, the ministry said in a statement on Sunday.

“Command posts, a radar installation, Ukrainian aviation equipment, and storage facilities with weapons and ammunition were hit,” the statement read.

In another strike, near the city of Dnepropetrovsk on the Dnepr River, a Ukrainian drone assembly workshop was destroyed, the ministry said.

Over the past 24 hours, Russian air defenses have shot down two UK-supplied Storm Shadow cruise missiles, 14 rockets fired from US-made HIMARS and Soviet-era Uragan multiple rocket launchers, as well as two Tochka-U tactical missiles, fired by the Ukrainian forces, according to the statement.

A total of 21 drones have also been intercepted in Russia’s Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics, the country’s Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, and over the Black Sea, the ministry added.

Top Comment:
Jupiter_Besarionis
You won't see this on drudgereport. I look forward to day americans wake up and realise the full extent that their govt spend billions just on manufacturing consent. Why can't you drink clean water from tap? Because money must be spent on Twitter, IG, TIKTOK, and legacy media generating content to make them believe Ukraine is "winning." They made the same mistake in Vietnam that what's US people were shocked by brutal losses of Tet offensive.. hmm that was also touted as a "grand counter offensive." Study history people!

[IroNat]

MacGregor said Ukraine's air defenses have been greatly reduced so Russian warplanes can attack more freely.

Himars have been almost completely neutralized.

[Teutonic Knight]

Kupyansk is encircled 

[Teutonic Knight]

If Russia was "too strong" they would have taken over Ukraine by now.

Ask 12,5 millions (UN number) Ukrainian refugees  , 75 000 in Ireland 



Hey, those 75 000 Ukrainian refugees could 'libearate' Ireland from the 500 years of ENGLISH domination 

[Humble Narcissist]

Maybe.

That no longer exists.

[Gym Rat]

Do fools like Griffith really think Ukraine is "winning"??   

[Kwon]

Do fools like Griffith really think Ukraine is "winning"??   

Oak thinks so too

[Irongrip400]

Do fools like Griffith really think Ukraine is "winning"??   

BBC has an article this morning about Russia saying the Ukraine offensive has begun and that they’ve repelled the major attack. Claiming to have killed 250 soldiers and regrouped 16 tanks.

[Kwon]

And this is from the biased BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65806152

Ukraine war: Russia says it thwarted major Ukrainian offensive




Can't trust either Ukraine or Russia news tho (Propaganda), you need to use info from a third party

Russia's claim has not been verified, and Ukraine's military said the country is spreading disinformation.

[obsidian]

That no longer exists.

I know. Should have gone to check it out. I drove through Georgia numerous times.

[Teutonic Knight]

BBC has an article this morning about Russia saying the Ukraine offensive has begun and that they’ve repelled the major attack. Claiming to have killed 250 soldiers and regrouped 16 tanks.

Just another dumb Ukers attack & nothing else !. Russian artillery smashed them 

Try Russian podcast (if you could) TV Specnaz ZOV & enjoy  ( there is a lot of Youtube restriction in some countries )

Youtube: www.youtube.com/tresnjica38388

[Humble Narcissist]

I know. Should have gone to check it out. I drove through Georgia numerous times.

I was actually planning a trip to see it before it got blown up.

[Teutonic Knight]

The Dam @ Kherson is no more 

[Irongrip400]

The Dam @ Kherson is no more 

I just watched the video. That’s fucked up.

[SOMEPARTS]

Remember how they've said Putin was lying and that this wasn't happening? They've been active in covering it up.


  "  In November, during a meeting with Times reporters near the front line, a Ukrainian press officer wore a Totenkopf variation made by a company called R3ICH (pronounced “Reich”). He said he did not believe the patch was affiliated with the Nazis. A second press officer present said other journalists had asked soldiers to remove the patch before taking photographs. "

"...meanings unique to Ukraine."

"should be interpreted by how Ukrainians viewed them, not by how they had been used elsewhere."



https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.html