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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1700 on: April 24, 2022, 04:42:32 PM »
Maybe Russia needs to show NATO that it cant be pushed around to save its soul

Exactly right - NATO have a Lot to answer for in getting this conflict started
Along with The Ukraine & What they've been doing to certain areas of their own country
& peoples who wanted to Breakaway + The Huge Nazi presence + Biden et al & the money
Laundering / Corruption.

Far to simple & Easy Just to Point Finger / Blame Russia.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1701 on: April 24, 2022, 04:46:34 PM »
depends on the context. Certainly a big difference between fighting and killing soldiers in just self defence and torturing,raping and shooting dead unarmed civilians. Bottom line is Russia should get out of Ukraine to save its soul.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1702 on: April 24, 2022, 09:08:48 PM »
Communists are atheists.

No soul.

Yeah but modern Russia is heavily influenced by the Orthodox Patriarchy. There are tones of holy war, cleansing the sinful pornographic Ukrainians.

As for showing Nato, Nato nor Ukraine for whatever amount of threatening gestures or bedroom antics with Washington did not actually invade Russia. In a fight I would wait until the other guy makes the first move, I have that level of fearless nerve. I don't need to respond based upon words.

Has there been a growing anti Russian sentiment in Ukraine? Yes. Is there some neo nazi homage? Yes. Is Zelensky a puppet? He buddied up with those who were eager to take advantage of him, but he loves his country and people and is serving valiantly. Is this war somehow all linked in with the great reset? Yup. Are there wars and oppressions in other parts of the world? Yes. Has the West perpetuated its own war crimes? Certainly. Are the children in Yemen starving? Sadly so. But none of this can or should be used as justifiable reason to support Putin, Russia and turn a cold heart to the worlds worst present genocide.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1703 on: April 25, 2022, 12:11:20 AM »
Putin orders the Mariupol plant to be blocked so even a fly can't get out...

Zenesky finally got his "no fly zone"

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1704 on: April 25, 2022, 01:26:32 AM »
"genocide"  ???  The same media that has lied for the last two years is now being truthful  ::)


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1705 on: April 25, 2022, 01:36:18 AM »
Media reports on the the Russian so called "Bucha masscre" But why would the Russians kill those loyal to them? It does not make sense. More like Russian speaking Loyalists murdered for being "collaberators" by the Ukranian National police (Which they were comanded to do (see below) ‘the cleansing of the city.’..what exactly does “cleansing” or "clearing" mean? It sounds sinister ) and then used for PR to get more "lethal aid" from the West makes more sense.

The West made a snap judgment but the question of guilt is far from decided. Unlike their judicial systems, when it comes to war, Western nations dispense with the need for investigations and evidence and pronounce guilt based on political motives: Russia is guilty. Case closed. Smells like "Iraqi WMD" to me, sorry not falling for that BS again.

A rush to judgment is dangerous. But again it's an emotional rush to judgment that we are getting. 


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1706 on: April 25, 2022, 01:37:19 AM »
🤔 “[Saturday] 2 April, hours before a massacre is brought to the attention of the national and international media. The US and EU-funded Gorshenin Institute online [Ukrainian language] site Left Bank announced that:

‘Special forces have begun a clearing operation in the city of Bucha in the Kyiv region, which has been liberated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The city is being cleared from saboteurs and accomplices of Russian forces.’
The Russian military has by now completely left the city, so this sounds for all the world like reprisals.

The state authorities would be going through the city searching for ‘saboteurs’ and ‘accomplices of Russian forces.’

Only the day before [Friday], Ekaterina Ukraintsiva, representing the town council authority, appeared on an information video on the Bucha Live Telegram page wearing military fatigues and seated in front of a Ukrainian flag to announce ‘the cleansing of the city.’

She informed residents that the arrival of the Azov battalion did not mean that liberation was complete (but it was, the Russians had fully withdrawn), and that a ‘complete sweep’ had to be performed.”

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1707 on: April 25, 2022, 01:37:29 AM »
Do you believe everything you are told by the media?

Typical Ukrainian Propaganda
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1708 on: April 25, 2022, 01:39:20 AM »
Communists are atheists.

No soul.

They all gingers?
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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1709 on: April 25, 2022, 02:00:00 AM »
2 Russian oligarchs found dead one day apart alongside their wives and children 🤔🤔🤔🤔

https://www.businessinsider.com/2-russian-oligarchs-found-dead-spain-moscow-reports-2022-4?r=US&IR=T

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1710 on: April 25, 2022, 02:41:12 AM »
The thing to realize is post Marxist, post Communist Russian are very sensitive to Western ideas (i.e. Toxic Liberal globalism) Conservative Russia has it's own political religous world order rising which stands in contrast and rejects western secular liberal globalism. Which is why they want to destroy Russia (and other Nations they want to asimilate like the Borg)

liberal globalism contains the same basic ideas that ravaged Russia with Marxism 70 years ago (An idea inspired by western enlightenment pushed by Karl Marx) An idea that invaded Russia and decimated it (The Russian Church and culture) The same one that is invading and doing harm to the West and turning it into clown world AKA Sodom and Gomorrah.

the Powerful Russian orthodox higher ups are concerned these forgien invading liberal ideas are going to damage their society again like it is already doing in the west. This is really what is at the root of what is going on...

When it comes to the Russia-Ukraine war and the culture war in the US. It's easy to understand why other Nationalists can be more sympathetic with Russia than their own country that says men can breastfeed, celebrates criminals, hates it's own history, traditions and culture, demands CRT in schools, and fights for trans womens rights even though they cant define what a woman even is.

eg. Obama, during the 2013 G20 conference in Saint Petersburg, Russia, used his visit to Russia as an opportunity to meet with disgruntled leaders of the Homosexual Community. A slight against President Putin who had recently signed into law restrictions on the Gay Rights Agenda. Obama went so far as to publicly disagree with Putin on this issue. Obama showed brazen disrespect for the will of the Russian people and their leader. 

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1711 on: April 25, 2022, 03:00:04 AM »
Media reports on the the Russian so called "Bucha masscre" But why would the Russians kill those loyal to them? It does not make sense. More like Russian speaking Loyalists murdered for being "collaberators" by the Ukranian National police (Which they were comanded to do (see below) ‘the cleansing of the city.’..what exactly does “cleansing” or "clearing" mean? It sounds sinister ) and then used for PR to get more "lethal aid" from the West makes more sense.

The West made a snap judgment but the question of guilt is far from decided. Unlike their judicial systems, when it comes to war, Western nations dispense with the need for investigations and evidence and pronounce guilt based on political motives: Russia is guilty. Case closed. Smells like "Iraqi WMD" to me, sorry not falling for that BS again.

A rush to judgment is dangerous. But again it's an emotional rush to judgment that we are getting. 



I,ve listened to enough first person accounts from those who have suffered at the hands of Russian soldiers to believe what they say is true. I read emotion and body language very well. Why would it make sense for Russia to bomb to oblivion the Russian speaking people of Mariupol. They all hate Russia now. There must be thousands of gallons of fake blood being shipped in to Ukraine along with the weapons and thousands of crisis actors for your position to be plausible, which it is not.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1712 on: April 25, 2022, 03:22:14 AM »
I,ve listened to enough first person accounts from those who have suffered at the hands of Russian soldiers to believe what they say is true. I read emotion and body language very well. Why would it make sense for Russia to bomb to oblivion the Russian speaking people of Mariupol. They all hate Russia now. There must be thousands of gallons of fake blood being shipped in to Ukraine along with the weapons and thousands of crisis actors for your position to be plausible, which it is not.

It's war and there are Gangsters on both sides, no doubt . It is really difficult to find the truth, with so much propaganda and lies coming from either sides... but from what i've found out re: Mariupol the Ukraine azov were killing civilians in azovstal, also using them as human shields (The old Palastinian tactic) So It's not a "Black and white situation" there are trapped civilians in azovstal in basements and Russian soldiers are going street to street to give them humanitarian aid, as reported by Patrick Lancaster (American reporter) who I suggest checking out on youtube, he's on the ground in Mariupol right now. And every civilian  in his videos asked, the answer is the same ' Ukainski killed them ' not Russian  ??? in the footage none of the civilians there seem terrified of the Russian soldiers...


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1713 on: April 25, 2022, 04:03:59 AM »
From the interviews with the Azov soldiers I have seen I did not see such a dark spirit in them to do that, nor from the interviews with the civilians themselves see the marks of such terror. I am hard pressed to believe it. Its nice to see the Russian soldiers distributing aid though. Better yet would be to leave because there is no viable peaceful future for Russian rulership in Ukraine.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1714 on: April 25, 2022, 04:35:51 AM »
From the interviews with the Azov soldiers I have seen I did not see such a dark spirit in them to do that, nor from the interviews with the civilians themselves see the marks of such terror. I am hard pressed to believe it. Its nice to see the Russian soldiers distributing aid though. Better yet would be to leave because there is no viable peaceful future for Russian rulership in Ukraine.

Putin was protecting his border. Ukraine had multiple Bio Terrorism labs that engineered deadly pathogens like Covid and worse. Vile Human trafficking too. Multiple US politicians have dirty business deals going on in Ukraine. Wait for the Hunter Biden Laptop to be exposed. Get your head out of the sand.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1715 on: April 25, 2022, 04:37:36 AM »
From the interviews with the Azov soldiers I have seen I did not see such a dark spirit in them to do that, nor from the interviews with the civilians themselves see the marks of such terror. I am hard pressed to believe it. Its nice to see the Russian soldiers distributing aid though. Better yet would be to leave because there is no viable peaceful future for Russian rulership in Ukraine.

give it another month  and no one will give a fuck about it

There has been a civil war going on in Ethiopia since Nov 2020

Be honest, had anyone heard about it?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1716 on: April 25, 2022, 04:43:41 AM »
give it another month  and no one will give a fuck about it

There has been a civil war going on in Ethiopia since Nov 2020

Be honest, had anyone heard about it?

I'm flying the Ethiopian flag in my yard right now.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1717 on: April 25, 2022, 04:56:20 AM »
I'm flying the Ethiopian flag in my yard right now.



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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1718 on: April 25, 2022, 05:08:35 AM »
From the interviews with the Azov soldiers I have seen I did not see such a dark spirit in them to do that, nor from the interviews with the civilians themselves see the marks of such terror. I am hard pressed to believe it. Its nice to see the Russian soldiers distributing aid though. Better yet would be to leave because there is no viable peaceful future for Russian rulership in Ukraine.

Maybe you'll believe this? Over 200 interviews of their victims. (Found guilty by the OSCE for war crimes authorized by their leadership) I'm not saying the Russians are angels, but I don't find it far fetch that the Ukrainian armed forces (SBU, Azov) would do VERY bad things to anyone they thought were Ukainian/Russian loyalists (civilians) in Mariupol, considering the Ukrainian armed forces past behaviour..

Maybe they've reformed their tactics suddenly in 2022  ::) IMO "A leopard doesnt change it's spots"

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1719 on: April 25, 2022, 05:38:16 AM »
Azov Militants have done this to Ukrainian civilians before...why would they not do it to them now?


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1720 on: April 25, 2022, 05:50:59 AM »
I used to read the news on RT. I never saw any in person footage, testaments, from the people of Donbass. Russia did invade those areas to begin with. And blitzing the Russian speaking peoples cities does not sound like helping them. I do not deny there have been atrocities committed by the Ukrainian forces there. Maybe it could of all been prevented if Russia was not so insecure and content with is already massive country. I wont be forgetting about it all in a month and sympathize with human suffering the world over.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1721 on: April 25, 2022, 06:02:21 AM »
I used to read the news on RT. I never saw any in person footage, testaments, from the people of Donbass. Russia did invade those areas to begin with. And blitzing the Russian speaking peoples cities does not sound like helping them. I do not deny there have been atrocities committed by the Ukrainian forces there. Maybe it could of all been prevented if Russia was not so insecure and content with is already massive country. I wont be forgetting about it all in a month and sympathize with human suffering the world over.

This was never about expanding their territory (Russia is 11 time zones) But more about NATO expansion and having a buffer zone, against continuous western advances i.e. NOT having missiles in range of Moscow. If you listen to Putin speeches he warned the EU/Nato repeatedly but it feel on deaf ears...

Like the USA has the "munroe doctrine" the best known U.S. policy toward the Western Hemisphere. it warns European nations that the United States would not tolerate further colonization or puppet monarchs.

The US wouldn't stand for it with Cuba - almost ended in a Nuclear war, so why would Russia?...Super powers don't react kindly to tiny "sovergien "countries placing 'enemy" missiles near them...

This was a completely preventable tragedy if:

A) had NATO quit expanding & Western financed interference had stopped (installing their puppet monarchs, financing revolutions, sending "lethal aid", proxy wars etc)
B)  Ukraine could have reassured the Russians they would remain neutral.

Russia is a serious country with serious people! If you're going to sleep next to a bear..best not to poke it. But the West/Zelensky thought they could, they "fucked around and found out" and now they're blaming the bear  ::) as usual the ones who will suffer will be the ordinary people of Ukraine, Russia and the West.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #1723 on: April 25, 2022, 07:20:53 AM »
So many of us ONLY see through the distorted and sensationalist lens of the media and the narrative they push..


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