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Teutonic Knight

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3375 on: October 31, 2022, 12:04:47 PM »

But we were promised nuclear meltdown of planet earth????

Shock horror! You mean to say there is another option besides nuking the human race out of existence?


Don't U live in WA ?.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3376 on: October 31, 2022, 12:08:59 PM »


Italy's Meloni pledges arms for Ukraine

The only way to facilitate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine is helping Kyiv to defend itself militarily, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni told parliament on Wednesday.

"Peace can be achieved by supporting Ukraine ... it is the only chance we have for the two sides to negotiate," Meloni told the Senate ahead of a confidence vote on her newly appointed rightist government.

Meloni has repeatedly pledged support to Kyiv.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/only-way-peace-is-helping-ukraine-fight-italys-pm-says-2022-10-26/

Italian government 'Ministry of Foreign Affairs' website:

https://www.esteri.it/en/politica-estera-e-cooperazione-allo-sviluppo/aree_geografiche/europa/litalia-a-sostegno-dellucraina/

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3377 on: October 31, 2022, 03:34:08 PM »

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3378 on: October 31, 2022, 03:51:12 PM »
Europe


Russia

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3379 on: October 31, 2022, 04:04:40 PM »
^^ Bullshit

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3380 on: October 31, 2022, 05:58:14 PM »
A self-propelled gun is mobile artillery, usually 155mm and can fire at considerably longer distances, from 30 - 60km's. In this case, a howitzer, which means it can fire at direct angles at closer targets and at high angles for long range.

Because they are mobile, they can use the 'shoot and scoot' tactic, meaning they can fire off salvos at enemy positions and then quickly move before the enemy gets a position on them and returns fire. If aircraft are sent, they disperse and use camouflage coverings and nets.


But both have tracks and require a driver right?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3381 on: October 31, 2022, 09:01:01 PM »

But both have tracks and require a driver right?

They use different types of cannons and types of ammunition and have different roles.

Tanks are relatively close range attack vehicles used on the frontline, these are mobile artillery, designed to fire high range arching shots at long distances using ammunition with a wider blast radius.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3382 on: November 01, 2022, 01:39:22 AM »
A self-propelled gun is mobile artillery, usually 155mm and can fire at considerably longer distances, from 30 - 60km's. In this case, a howitzer, which means it can fire at direct angles at closer targets and at high angles for long range.

Because they are mobile, they can use the 'shoot and scoot' tactic, meaning they can fire off salvos at enemy positions and then quickly move before the enemy gets a position on them and returns fire. If aircraft are sent, they disperse and use camouflage coverings and nets.


Wikipedia BS !.

PzH is fucked if off road/hard surface , Ukrainian ground is too soft for this +60 tonnes 'tank' , created before Drones time !.

Easily spoted by Russian drones/jets !.

Hey "genius" tell us how would you transport PzH from Polish border to Donbas  ;D


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3383 on: November 01, 2022, 01:45:37 AM »
Italy's Meloni pledges arms for Ukraine

The only way to facilitate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine is helping Kyiv to defend itself militarily, Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni told parliament on Wednesday.

"Peace can be achieved by supporting Ukraine ... it is the only chance we have for the two sides to negotiate," Meloni told the Senate ahead of a confidence vote on her newly appointed rightist government.

Meloni has repeatedly pledged support to Kyiv.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/only-way-peace-is-helping-ukraine-fight-italys-pm-says-2022-10-26/

Italian government 'Ministry of Foreign Affairs' website:

https://www.esteri.it/en/politica-estera-e-cooperazione-allo-sviluppo/aree_geografiche/europa/litalia-a-sostegno-dellucraina/



Just like promised MIG's from Poland,Slovakia,Romania ,...................................... :D

or like 300 000 NATO soldiers ........................ ::)

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3384 on: November 01, 2022, 01:51:59 AM »
Try a Little harder with the verbal insults pls.

As usual you cannot offer any meaningful answer to all the questions / posts directed at you & have to resort to your fail-safe Avoid Answering


Ahh Bless you you're so Expert & Know Everything that's going on & why
Yet are Unable to ever Answer.

Good luck in the Mental home, They'll take great care of you.

He is very very quiet  about fucked up drones 'attack' on Sevastopol base by Ukers 3 days ago ;D, Russians destroyed

all 22 American build drones ................ ;D

Hey OAK, Zelensky needs U !.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3385 on: November 01, 2022, 02:12:09 AM »


MERAJ-521 , Iranian newest kamikaze drone is 'welcomed' by Zelensky ..................... :)

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3386 on: November 01, 2022, 02:12:57 AM »
It's going to get very cold in Europe soon.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3387 on: November 01, 2022, 02:22:22 AM »
It's going to get very cold in Europe soon.

Mostly in the Western EU countries , more & more protest with Russian flags ...........looks like Czech's goverment will go too !.

Also there is no more forests cover for Ukers military machinery , leafs a falling !.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3388 on: November 01, 2022, 03:52:25 AM »

But both have tracks and require a driver right?

I think Griffith is pretty much correct. I’ll try to elaborate further. Think of ammunition categories, e.g. mortars, rockets, grenades, recoilless, projectiles, etc. These are also broken down further into subcategories, e.g. HE (high explosive), HEAT (high explosive anti-tank, meaning it has a shaped charge), Carrier (meaning smoke, illumination, cluster bombs, etc.).

There are important differences regarding how these munitions reach their target. For instance, grenades may be hand-thrown or propelled/projected from a launcher. Mortars go down a mortar barrel and have a percussion cap, spigot holes and charges filled with black powder which dictate how far it travels depending on the amount of charges you attach.

Rockets use a venturi exhaust system to create a constriction of the gases being burned as the powder is ignited, which gives a very long-range capability. Projectiles (shells) can have their propellant inside the casing or use separate, bagged propellant charges, and are usually fired out of a rifled barrel. When we talk of propellant inside the ammunition we are talking about low-explosives like black powder/flash powder that propel it to its target once it is ignited.

With regard to a 'self-propelled gun', we are talking about how the weapons system itself moves to its location (tank tracks/tyres). Typically, mortars (81 mm or 82 mm) are carried to location and then bedded in to provide indirect fire support. Larger mortars and field guns which fire shells or rockets need to be towed to location and then also remain there.

If, however, they are built into self-propelled guns, they remain mobile, easy to maneuver, and can provide indirect fire-support using a variety of different ammunition types (mortars/rockets/projectiles). It’s quite a broad term, as opposed to a tank. A tank is typically more heavily armored, has a turret, fires projectiles, is heavier, and is used in a direct fire capability. Self-propelled guns may often look like tanks but they differ in the ways I’ve tried to articulate above.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3389 on: November 01, 2022, 08:40:16 AM »
What’s the difference between self propelled gun and a tank?

one contains mortar rounds the other contains fish.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3390 on: November 01, 2022, 09:17:08 AM »


Just like promised MIG's from Poland,Slovakia,Romania ,...................................... :D

or like 300 000 NATO soldiers ........................ ::)

We're all still waiting for those 'thousands' of North Korean and Chinese troops to arrive.

 :D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3391 on: November 01, 2022, 11:53:18 AM »
We're all still waiting for those 'thousands' of North Korean and Chinese troops to arrive.

 :D

Contact General Armagedon , he's a very nice gentleman !.

Yesterday : 50 Iskanders smashed vital targets in Harkov,Kiev,Lavov,................& Ukers 'defence' was hopless (again) !.

How is soy cafe latte situation in Kiev  8)

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3392 on: November 04, 2022, 12:01:15 AM »
Europe


Russia



 ;D  ;D  ;D

In Germany, public transport ticket (Deutschland Ticket) jumping from 9 to 44 Euros !.

Inflation in energy prices is 41.9% in Eurozone ,record level high !.


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3393 on: November 04, 2022, 12:12:43 AM »
'Delta' Ukrainian military server , based in Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk) is penatrated by Russian huckers .......... ;)

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3394 on: November 04, 2022, 12:18:33 AM »
'Delta' Ukrainian military server , based in Dnipro (Dnipropetrovsk) is penatrated by Russian huckers .......... ;)

Hucking Hell! UA is hucked then.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3395 on: November 04, 2022, 12:29:23 AM »
Hucking Hell! UA is hucked then.

Hey Oak, how is cafe latte situation in Harkow  :D

OBW, I can post 'Delta' building address + phone #. if U needed  ;)

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3396 on: November 04, 2022, 12:39:57 AM »

Italy's Meloni .................



As expected, no military ''PIZZA" Italiana for Zelensky  :'(

Grazie Giorgia  :-*

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3397 on: November 04, 2022, 04:20:15 AM »

 ;D  ;D  ;D

In Germany, public transport ticket (Deutschland Ticket) jumping from 9 to 44 Euros !.

Inflation in energy prices is 41.9% in Eurozone ,record level high !.

Transport ticket up 5x and energy in places up 2x-5x.

Prices lead. Inflation metrics lag. Wages lag off lagged inflation metrics.

This is the part where people today think they get rich off hyperinflation but haven’t factored they need to survive the pain of 5x costs long enough to get the wage increase which won’t be enough to keep up with prices anyway……

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3398 on: November 04, 2022, 06:33:31 AM »
As expected, no military ''PIZZA" Italiana for Zelensky  :'(

Grazie Giorgia  :-*

Italy preparing sixth military aid package for Ukraine

Italian Defense Minister Guido Crosetto has said that Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni's new government is set to approve Italy’s sixth military aid package for Ukraine amid the Russian invasion.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3607757-italy-preparing-sixth-military-aid-package-for-ukraine.html

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3399 on: November 04, 2022, 06:53:58 AM »
Transport ticket up 5x and energy in places up 2x-5x.

Prices lead. Inflation metrics lag. Wages lag off lagged inflation metrics.

This is the part where people today think they get rich off hyperinflation but haven’t factored they need to survive the pain of 5x costs long enough to get the wage increase which won’t be enough to keep up with prices anyway……

Teutonic is a retard, so take any "news" he posts with a pinch of salt.

The €9 ticket was a post covid/pre energy crises summer initiative. It was a trial and never meant to be permanent. Previous to the trial tickets were around €100, so settling at €49 is actually a price decrease.