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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3450 on: November 13, 2022, 10:23:31 PM »
If you dont think its man made why do we need to co-operate?

If its not caused by man it cant be controlled by man.

Make your fucking mind up

Its like trying to stop the tide coming in...

So your position is: do nothing?

I’m referring to collaboration on a survival strategy.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3451 on: November 13, 2022, 10:27:57 PM »
So your position is: do nothing?

I’m referring to collaboration on a survival strategy.

They think the survival strategy is reduce carbon emmisions by reducing the population and take the people left back to the dark ages

People crying about the climate whilst having a mobile phone is hypocritical

People dont realise what type of a life "Net Zero" actually means.
Dont they realise they will never be able to get on a plane again?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3452 on: November 13, 2022, 10:56:23 PM »
They think the survival strategy is reduce carbon emmisions by reducing the population and take the people left back to the dark ages

People crying about the climate whilst having a mobile phone is hypocritical

People dont realise what type of a life "Net Zero" actually means.
Dont they realise they will never be able to get on a plane again?

The fossil fuel argument is not without merit:

https://time.com/5680432/climate-change-history-carbon/

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3453 on: November 13, 2022, 11:17:23 PM »
I always laugh when I hear that one. Just take a look around, humans are tribal. A one world government will never happen. Do you think any of the autocratic leaders are going to sign up? Not even to mention the theocratic nutcases.

The need for global cooperation is real on major issues like the climate. I can see a more likely outcome being some loose collaboration on that, but only after some hideous calamities have befallen enough to finally get governments to work together to do something. After that, it’ll be the usual human bickering / ideological disputes.

Please explain how "global cooperation" and governements "doing something" ie. climate tax will solve this ->

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« Reply #3454 on: November 13, 2022, 11:20:54 PM »
Please explain how "global cooperation" and governements "doing something" ie. climate tax will solve this ->

Not something that needs to be solved…

So, could long-term changes in the Sun's energy output have caused the change in Earth's climate measured over the last 35 years?
By and large, the space-based observations of the last 35 years have not recorded substantial changes in energy output from the Sun.  Nonetheless, scientists include all the influences they can (including solar changes) when studying changes in climate. These estimates suggest that a small decrease in solar irradiance over the last 35 years would have caused a slight cooling of the climate over this time period – but only in the absence of other influences on Earth's climate.

The physics of the situation also doesn't back up the idea that changes in the Sun are a large force behind current climate change.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/solar-events-news/Does-the-Solar-Cycle-Affect-Earths-Climate.html





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« Reply #3455 on: November 13, 2022, 11:28:32 PM »
Not something that needs to be solved…

So, could long-term changes in the Sun's energy output have caused the change in Earth's climate measured over the last 35 years?
By and large, the space-based observations of the last 35 years have not recorded substantial changes in energy output from the Sun.  Nonetheless, scientists include all the influences they can (including solar changes) when studying changes in climate. These estimates suggest that a small decrease in solar irradiance over the last 35 years would have caused a slight cooling of the climate over this time period – but only in the absence of other influences on Earth's climate.

The physics of the situation also doesn't back up the idea that changes in the Sun are a large force behind current climate change.

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/solar-events-news/Does-the-Solar-Cycle-Affect-Earths-Climate.html

"Sustained changes in solar radiance – that is changes that occur over decades or centuries – could potentially have an effect on Earth's climate system "

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3456 on: November 13, 2022, 11:38:54 PM »
"Sustained changes in solar radiance – that is changes that occur over decades or centuries – could potentially have an effect on Earth's climate system "

If that is the quote you pick out in support of your spurious claim, I think we can deduce that you’ve come to your conclusion in opposition of NASA’s view (and missed the entire point of their conclusion).

Clearly taxation is an effective way to moderate certain behaviours in the majority of citizens. But in and of itself, it is not the silver bullet to this problem.

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« Reply #3457 on: November 14, 2022, 12:36:27 AM »
Inflation will do more to lower emissions than Carbon tax.

What has more impact on a 85” tv, the $15 for 1 tonne of carbon emmisions or the price going from $3,300 to $5,000?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3458 on: November 14, 2022, 12:47:29 AM »
If that is the quote you pick out in support of your spurious claim, I think we can deduce that you’ve come to your conclusion in opposition of NASA’s view (and missed the entire point of their conclusion).

Clearly taxation is an effective way to moderate certain behaviours in the majority of citizens. But in and of itself, it is not the silver bullet to this problem.

The claim is made by Professor Of Physics & Mathematics at Northumbria University, Valentina Zharkova a solar physicist who knows a lot about the sun...

For years we’ve been told that Earth is warming and it’s an absolute catastrophe thanks to carbon emissions and human activity in general. Oceans are rising and polar bears are dying and Antarctica is melting and it’s all our fault. All nonsense. The truth is Global warming and global cooling are natural planetary cycles. Humans don’t influence Earth’s temperature, the sun does  8)

1) There is no evidence for man-made climate change. Human beings do not influence Earth’s climate in any meaningful way;
2) Climate change has occurred for millennia;
3) There is no evidence of significant sea-level rise;
4) Extreme weather has not been all that extreme over the last century;
5) The Arctic and Antarctic are doing fine; and
6) The climate change narrative has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with fear and control and taxation.

Don’t believe the hype & hysteria, it's more nonsense with an agenda attached. Just like the covid lockdowns.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3459 on: November 14, 2022, 01:16:06 AM »
The claim is made by Professor Of Physics & Mathematics at Northumbria University, Valentina Zharkova a solar physicist who knows a lot about the sun...

For years we’ve been told that Earth is warming and it’s an absolute catastrophe thanks to carbon emissions and human activity in general. Oceans are rising and polar bears are dying and Antarctica is melting and it’s all our fault. All nonsense. The truth is Global warming and global cooling are natural planetary cycles. Humans don’t influence Earth’s temperature, the sun does  8)

1) There is no evidence for man-made climate change. Human beings do not influence Earth’s climate in any meaningful way;
2) Climate change has occurred for millennia;
3) There is no evidence of significant sea-level rise;
4) Extreme weather has not been all that extreme over the last century;
5) The Arctic and Antarctic are doing fine; and
6) The climate change narrative has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with fear and control and taxation.

Don’t believe the hype & hysteria, it's more nonsense with an agenda attached. Just like the covid lockdowns.

Amen, don't expect auto to have a different point of view on the subject all his research comes from google and the media, so he's well informed.  ;D

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3460 on: November 14, 2022, 03:25:50 AM »
The claim is made by Professor Of Physics & Mathematics at Northumbria University, Valentina Zharkova a solar physicist who knows a lot about the sun...

For years we’ve been told that Earth is warming and it’s an absolute catastrophe thanks to carbon emissions and human activity in general. Oceans are rising and polar bears are dying and Antarctica is melting and it’s all our fault. All nonsense. The truth is Global warming and global cooling are natural planetary cycles. Humans don’t influence Earth’s temperature, the sun does  8)

1) There is no evidence for man-made climate change. Human beings do not influence Earth’s climate in any meaningful way;
2) Climate change has occurred for millennia;
3) There is no evidence of significant sea-level rise;
4) Extreme weather has not been all that extreme over the last century;
5) The Arctic and Antarctic are doing fine; and
6) The climate change narrative has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with fear and control and taxation.

Don’t believe the hype & hysteria, it's more nonsense with an agenda attached. Just like the covid lockdowns.
It has been about fear, control and taxation since the 1960's.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3461 on: November 14, 2022, 03:33:00 AM »

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3462 on: November 14, 2022, 03:39:28 AM »
Inflation will do more to lower emissions than Carbon tax.

What has more impact on a 85” tv, the $15 for 1 tonne of carbon emmisions or the price going from $3,300 to $5,000?

SAMSUNG 85" Class 4K Crystal UHD (2160P) LED Smart TV - $998

https://www.walmart.com/ip/SAMSUNG-85-Class-4K-Crystal-UHD-2160P-LED-Smart-TV-with-HDR-UN85TU7000/383488008?athbdg=L1100


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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3463 on: November 14, 2022, 05:30:14 AM »
Amen, don't expect auto to have a different point of view on the subject all his research comes from google and the media, so he's well informed.  ;D

Last I checked, NASA was pretty legit. I suppose you don’t get any of your information from the internet? Wigga please!

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3464 on: November 14, 2022, 10:01:18 AM »
For those of us not paying attention or caring, who’s in the lead?

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3465 on: November 14, 2022, 01:28:47 PM »
Russia 27
Ukraine 10

Six minutes remaining in the 3rd quarter.
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« Reply #3466 on: November 14, 2022, 01:33:14 PM »
Russia 27
Ukraine 10

Six minutes remaining in the 3rd quarter.

Ukraine are down to 9 after having a man blown up

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3467 on: November 14, 2022, 06:25:49 PM »


How does he know all of this?

Is he there?

Honest question.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3468 on: November 15, 2022, 01:29:14 AM »
How does he know all of this?

Is he there?

Honest question.

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3469 on: November 15, 2022, 04:50:27 AM »

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Re: Russia has penetrated Ukraine
« Reply #3471 on: November 15, 2022, 11:42:24 AM »
Russian missiles hit Poland and killed 2.

Eastern Europe in a panic.

Most likely scenario is Ukraine shot down Russian missiles close to the Poland/Ukraine boarder and they ended up in Pooland.

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« Reply #3472 on: November 16, 2022, 06:02:00 PM »
Look how all the news jumped on and reported Russian missiles hit Poland now we know it was Ukraine missiles.

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« Reply #3474 on: November 17, 2022, 01:12:01 AM »
Look how all the news jumped on and reported Russian missiles hit Poland now we know it was Ukraine missiles.
As soon as it happened I said it was a false flag and my family thought I was crazy. This stuff is so predictable now.