Are Older Cars Better Than Newer Cars?

[Palumboism]

My personal belief is that newer cars are better.

For Example, compare the Passat B1 to the Passat B8.

1973 Passat (B1)


2015 Passat (B8)

[Las Vegas]

I'll take old cars any day.

[Parker]

Seems like the cars from the 90s to early 2000s were last of the good ones. Just like bodybuilding. Coincidence?

Here is a recent article from Road and Track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a26967/10-legendary-cars-that-prove-bmw-peaked-in-the-1990s/

[Dr Dutch]

New cars only look better....

[denarii]

There are far more components in new cars. I think old 4x4 s are pretty decent.

[Las Vegas]

Seems like the cars from the 90s to early 2000s were last of the good ones. Just like bodybuilding. Coincidence?

Here is a recent article from Road and Track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/a26967/10-legendary-cars-that-prove-bmw-peaked-in-the-1990s/

 

[Palumboism]

From Audi, 1972 vs 2016.

1972 Audi 80 the predecessor of the A4


2016 Audi A4

[Las Vegas]

If you want to be one with your car, there's no choice.

[Palumboism]

New cars only look better....

And have better acceleration, better handling, better breaking, lower emissions, better fuel economy, are Quieter, and .......

[Palumboism]

Compare the first Corolla to the Current one.

[funk51]

yes but only for style and individuality, everything else goes to the newer cars hands down...now if you put all the working parts in the old bodies

[Las Vegas]

And have better acceleration, better handling, better breaking, lower emissions, better fuel economy, are Quieter, and .......

You are dependent on a computer which is out of your immediate control.

[Palumboism]

You are dependent on a computer which is out of your immediate control.

Yes computer controlled electronic fuel injection make new cars great.  Do you want to go back to the carburetor?

[hazbin]

Yes computer controlled electronic fuel injection make new cars great.  Do you want to go back to the carburetor?

a lot of the technical changes make cars better and more efficient, but I believe they add computers and shit to keep the backyard mechanic from being able to fix his own car

[mr.turbo]

new cars are whales filled with electronic techno-bloat and plastic

[Las Vegas]

Yes computer controlled electronic fuel injection make new cars great.  Do you want to go back to the carburetor?

I don't think we'll be making new cars with carbs, no.  All the standards are being put down to meet requirements etc.  I understand that.

Just mentioning the bright side to old cars, is all.  

Isn't that the point of the thread?

[Palumboism]

1966 Corona, the predecessor to the Camry


2015 Camry

[Thin Lizzy]

Yes computer controlled electronic fuel injection make new cars great.  Do you want to go back to the carburetor?

Getting rid of the Distributor system also added a lot of mileage to the life of a car.

Your basic "get from point A to B" car is certainly better, today, just not as cool as the old school Muscle Cars.

[HTexan]

My personal belief is that newer cars are better.

For Example, compare the Passat B1 to the Passat B8.

1973 Passat (B1)


2015 Passat (B8)


D/quote]
define "better". Sexier, easier to work on, sound better, cheaper to repair. Yes
New cars? more reliable, better handling, eco friendly, better MPG, less wind noise, better ride. More power, if you get the right car of course.

[MAXX]

Everything with newer cars are better usually

Only downside could be all the Electronics than can potentially fail so older cars can be seen as easier to work on. On the other hand diagnostics are getting better.

[Palumboism]

I don't think we'll be making new cars with carbs, no.  All the standards are being put down to meet requirements etc.  I understand that.

Just mentioning the bright side to old cars, is all.  

Isn't that the point of the thread?

I honestly believe newer cars are better than older cars.  Older cars were simpler and easier to work on, I'll give you that.

It seems like everyone has rose colored glasses on about what older cars were like.  As if everyone was driving around in 455 Chevelle's, when the reality is people were driving Pinto's and happy to have them for the gas mileage.

The cars you see on the road today were designed by consumer tastes.  Just try to sell a Rivera today like the one Funk posted.  Customers won't buy full sized coupes, but what they do buy is crossovers.

[HTexan]

I don't think we'll be making new cars with carbs, no.  All the standards are being put down to meet requirements etc.  I understand that.

Just mentioning the bright side to old cars, is all.  

Isn't that the point of the thread?

fuck carbs.

This or ls3 e-rod crate.

[Palumboism]

1973 Ford Maverick, the predecessor to the Fusion.  The Maverick was a huge success for Ford selling 579,000 cars in the first year.


2015 Ford Fusion

[Palumboism]

1971 Pinto, the predecessor of the Focus.  


Pinto sales by year:
1971    352,402
1972    480,405
1973    484,512
1974    544,209
For me, the Pinto is one of the ugliest cars ever made and the fact that Ford was able to sell over four hundred thousand units for three years in a row speaks volumes about how much better cars are today. 



2015 Focus

[da_vinci]

Newest cars are awesome. Expensive as fukk, but driving them is a pure pleasure. If someone would show me an old model of the same make which drives AS good,safe,fast,economic,etc.. I'd probably buy the older one, tho' that just won't happen. Older were more reliable, yes... but they were a lot more simple products.