Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....

[dj181]

A full stretch is important even holding the bottom stretch for a couple of seconds.

probably so, but are you saying that i'll get ZERO benefit from doing only half reps?

maybe i won't get full benefit from half reps, but i'll still get something out of them

[Mr Nobody]

probably so, but are you saying that i'll get ZERO benefit from doing only half reps?

maybe i won't get full benefit from half reps, but i'll still get something out of them

Yes, If you had good genes for them most anything works, if not to increase very much you need the full range.

[dj181]

Yes, If you had good genes for them most anything works, if not to increase very much you need the full range.

do you buy what Mentzer said about some of his clients stopping calf work and then ending up with bigger calves?

[anabolichalo]

do you buy what Mentzer said about some of his clients stopping calf work and then ending up with bigger calves?

dumbest claim ever

for the love of god

[dj181]

dumbest claim ever

for the love of god

did you ever try Mentzer's methods?

[anabolichalo]

did you ever try Mentzer's methods?

no but i know people that did

they regressed horribly

[dj181]

no but i know people that did

they regressed horribly

did they do the consolidation routine?

it was training just once a week with a workout A and workout B

A was squat/dip
B was chin/dead

IMO he took frequency down WAY TOO LOW, but low volume works quite well for me actually

i basically train 5 days per week but i only do one set til failure on 2 exercises per workout (generally)

[anabolichalo]

did they do the consolidation routine?

it was training just once a week with a workout A and workout B

A was squat/dip
B was chin/dead

IMO he took frequency down WAY TOO LOW, but low volume works quite well for me actually

i basically train 5 days per week but i only do one set til failure on 2 exercises per workout (generally)

i dont know the details

only that this pretty built dude got brainwashed by mentzer

and shrank like a little girl

[Mr Nobody]

do you buy what Mentzer said about some of his clients stopping calf work and then ending up with bigger calves?

Not if they don't have genes for them.

[dj181]

Not if they don't have genes for them.

genes don't mean shit if you don't train your ass off

some say i'm genetically blessed to be lean, but i call bullshit on that coz i've been a fatass multiple times and i only got ripped and stayed ripped when i trained my fucking ass off and watched my cal intake

same with the superdrol, i was taking more before and now i'm taking less and i'm getting better results

why? because i'm training harder and pushing myself better and getting a bit more rest than i was when i was taking more

[Mr Nobody]

genes don't mean shit if you don't train your ass off

some say i'm genetically blessed to be lean, but i call bullshit on that coz i've been a fatass multiple times and i only got ripped and stayed ripped when i trained my fucking ass off and watched my cal intake

same with the superdrol, i was taking more before and now i'm taking less and i'm getting better results

why? because i'm training harder and pushing myself better and getting a bit more rest than i was when i was taking more

Genes don't shit ok, LOL. I know a guy with 19inch calves never done a calf raise in his life. However anyone can become a fat ass by just eating too many calories.

[dj181]

Genes don't shit ok, LOL. I know a guy with 19inch calves never done a calf raise in his life. However anyone can become a fat ass by just eating too many calories.

genes do matter, but you give them too much power

you gotta learn to harness a fierce drive within you brother

basically when it gets hard and you feel like quitting, then you gotta bite the bullet and push even harder

p.s. i'm kinda talking to myself here, so don't take it so serious ma man

[Mr Nobody]

genes do matter, but you give them too much power

you gotta learn to harness a fierce drive within you brother

basically when it gets hard and you feel like quitting, then you gotta bite the bullet and push even harder

p.s. i'm kinda talking to myself here, so don't take it so serious ma man

I know this. I had to work the shit out of mine brought them up, however there limits would I ever have the calves of Casey Viator = no.

[dj181]

I know this. I had to work the shit out of mine brought them up, however there limits would I ever have the calves of Casey Viator = no.

these dudes look about prerfect IMO

and bigger than this than one starts to look goofy and toady looking

[Borracho]

Heres a pic I took tonight after a cheat meal..
























I wish  

[dj181]

2 weeks to go chumpo

remember... "bodybuilding" is all and illusion and of course this helps when one has tiny, tiny joint like mine

[Mr Nobody]

2 weeks to go chumpo

remember... "bodybuilding" is all and illusion and of course this helps when one has tiny, tiny joint like mine

What's the criteria for the contest just abs or what?

[Borracho]

^
Maybe we should just do who has a better build. Lets see what those tiny joints translate to in real life. 

[dj181]

What's the criteria for the contest just abs or what?

shit dude! i don't know

i guess that i let my narcissism get the best of me there

this contest is supposed to be only about who is the leanest and nothing more...

^
Maybe we should just do who has a better build. Lets see what those tiny joints translate to in real life. 

see above post

but... i can challenge you to who has the best bod once i finish scuplting mine out, which should take place sometime in the fall

as of now i wanna get ripped and stay ripped while adding size where need be (except for calves )

[Mr Nobody]

shit dude! i don't know

i guess that i let my narcissism get the best of me there

this contest is supposed to be only about who is the leanest and nothing more...

see above post

but... i can challenge you to who has the best bod once i finish scuplting mine out, which should take place sometime in the fall

as of now i wanna get ripped and stay ripped while adding size where need be (except for calves )

I say overall body, lets say you two are in a bodybuilding contest they just dont look at abs. Yea abs are a indication of leaness, but your symmetry and size compared to structure. Calves included. So will you both wear like knee length shorts to the knee so calves are out the question?

[dj181]

I say overall body, lets say you two are in a bodybuilding contest they just dont look at abs. Yea abs are a indication of leaness, but your symmetry and size compared to structure. Calves included. So will you both wear like knee length shorts to the knee so calves are out the question?

well shit man!

as far as that goes i'm only about 70% of my potential, so B will smoke my ass at the present moment

but if he wants a full blown comp then i'd be up and ready for it in september/october

p.s. i got decent quads actually, they are right behind my lats and delts

[Mr Nobody]

well shit man!

as far as that goes i'm only about 70% of my potential, so B will smoke my ass at the present moment

but if he wants a full blown comp then i'd be up and ready for it in september/october

p.s. i got decent quads actually, they are right behind my lats and delts

B dont have calves either so a standoff. Ok again what's the criteria?

[dj181]

B dont have calves either so a standoff. Ok again what's the criteria?

again... who is leanest (1st and foremost)

and i guess we can throw in who has the best upper bod as i will send a front relaxed and a back double bi, same as last time

and we could also do best abs, best arms, best delts, best chest and best back i suppose (if ma man B agrees)

but i don't wanna take a shitload of pics this time

if we do a full on bb comp in sept/oct then i'll go full bore with the pics

[Mr Nobody]

again... who is leanest (1st and foremost)

and i guess we can throw in who has the best upper bod as i will send a front relaxed and a back double bi, same as last time

and we could also do best abs, best arms, best delts, best chest and best back i suppose (if ma man B agrees)

but i don't wanna take a shitload of pics this time

if we do a full on bb comp in sept/oct then i'll go full bore with the pics

Sounds like jeans are in order for this one then. 

[Borracho]

again... who is leanest (1st and foremost)

and i guess we can throw in who has the best upper bod as i will send a front relaxed and a back double bi, same as last time

and we could also do best abs, best arms, best delts, best chest and best back i suppose (if ma man B agrees)

but i don't wanna take a shitload of pics this time

if we do a full on bb comp in sept/oct then i'll go full bore with the pics

I was only fucking with ya but this "best" stuff sounds interesting