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Why are people so caught up over a guy who is 85 years old?
Trump pardons ex-Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio - White House
by Reuters
Saturday, 26 August 2017
WASHINGTON, Aug 25 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday granted a pardon to former Arizona lawman and political ally Joe Arpaio, the self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America," less than a month after he was convicted of criminal contempt in a case involving his department's racial profiling policy.
Trump had signaled this week that the first presidential pardon of his administration would go to Arpaio, 85, whom he has frequently praised for his hardline immigration stance. (Reporting by Julia Harte; Editing by Sandra Maler)
http://news.trust.org/item/20170826001249-riciv
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Trump is the greatest!
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Meltdowns in 3.2.1
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Why are people so caught up over a guy who is 85 years old?
Trump pardons ex-Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio - White House
by Reuters
Saturday, 26 August 2017
WASHINGTON, Aug 25 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday granted a pardon to former Arizona lawman and political ally Joe Arpaio, the self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America," less than a month after he was convicted of criminal contempt in a case involving his department's racial profiling policy.
Trump had signaled this week that the first presidential pardon of his administration would go to Arpaio, 85, whom he has frequently praised for his hardline immigration stance. (Reporting by Julia Harte; Editing by Sandra Maler)
http://news.trust.org/item/20170826001249-riciv
Because he's a piece of shit
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Why are people so caught up over a guy who is 83 years old?
Trump pardons ex-Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio - White House
by Reuters
Saturday, 26 August 2017
WASHINGTON, Aug 25 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday granted a pardon to former Arizona lawman and political ally Joe Arpaio, the self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America," less than a month after he was convicted of criminal contempt in a case involving his department's racial profiling policy.
Trump had signaled this week that the first presidential pardon of his administration would go to Arpaio, 85, whom he has frequently praised for his hardline immigration stance. (Reporting by Julia Harte; Editing by Sandra Maler)
http://news.trust.org/item/20170826001249-riciv
He is a criminal and the laws and their consequences should apply equally to everyone without exceptions. Arpaio himself had sign that said "if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime". If someone like Hillary (she's almost 70 now) or Feinstein (84) or Pelosi (77) were convicted of crimes would you want them pardoned or exempt from the laws just because of their age or political affiliation?
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Why are people so caught up over a guy who is 85 years old?
Trump pardons ex-Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio - White House
by Reuters
Saturday, 26 August 2017
WASHINGTON, Aug 25 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday granted a pardon to former Arizona lawman and political ally Joe Arpaio, the self-proclaimed "toughest sheriff in America," less than a month after he was convicted of criminal contempt in a case involving his department's racial profiling policy.
Trump had signaled this week that the first presidential pardon of his administration would go to Arpaio, 85, whom he has frequently praised for his hardline immigration stance. (Reporting by Julia Harte; Editing by Sandra Maler)
http://news.trust.org/item/20170826001249-riciv
what does his age have to do with it?
this guy flagrantly violated the law and it's insane that this guy was pardoned, especially at this juncture, early in the administration of this POTUS, didn't follow any of the normal procedures for a pardon, before the guy was even sentenced
this is what the mayor of Phoenix had to say about Arpaio
“Arpaio target and terrorized Latino families because of the color of their skin. He was ordered by a federal judge to stop and he refused,” Stanton continued. “He received a fair trial and a justifiable conviction, and there’s nothing the President can do to change the awful legacy and the stains he left on our community."
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348066-phoenix-mayor-rips-trump-pardoning-arpaio-a-slap-in-the-face
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Because he's a piece of shit
Well I guess that settles it.
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He is a criminal and the laws and their consequences should apply equally to everyone without exceptions. Arpaio himself had sign that said "if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime". If someone like Hillary (she's almost 70 now) or Feinstein (84) or Pelosi (77) were convicted of crimes would you want them pardoned or exempt from the laws just because of their age or political affiliation?
He was convicted of a misdemeanor. That's one step up from a traffic ticket. Not exactly the kind of thing that drives our justice system or has any measurable impact on Trump or his presidency.
I don't think anyone should be pardoned because of political affiliation. Pretty weak straw man you set up there.
Do I think age matters when it comes to minor offenses and how much time and resources we devote to it? Of course. This guy has outlived the life table charts. He probably isn't going to live much longer. I haven't really followed his case closely, so I don't have an informed opinion, but it does appear as though some politics was at play here. Wouldn't surprise me if the Obama administration targeted him. Don't know if that's true, but wouldn't surprise me.
Overall, seems like a whole lot of weeping and moaning over a molehill. One of my friends was saying before the pardon that if Trump pardoned him it would be some catastrophic miscarriage of justice. ::)
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Yeah, I really don't care about a pardon one way or the other. Although it's very fair to consider age IMO.
But this guy made for a strange case, in that he's an old perv getting his jollies right in front of everyone, treating those in his custody in the way that he did. Very strange, very sick. It was an embarrassment to justice and to all of humanity, really. He had everything bad coming to him as do his supporters.
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He was convicted of a misdemeanor. That's one step up from a traffic ticket. Not exactly the kind of thing that drives our justice system or has any measurable impact on Trump or his presidency.
I don't think anyone should be pardoned because of political affiliation. Pretty weak straw man you set up there.
Do I think age matters when it comes to minor offenses and how much time and resources we devote to it? Of course. This guy has outlived the life table charts. He probably isn't going to live much longer. I haven't really followed his case closely, so I don't have an informed opinion, but it does appear as though some politics was at play here. Wouldn't surprise me if the Obama administration targeted him. Don't know if that's true, but wouldn't surprise me.
Overall, seems like a whole lot of weeping and moaning over a molehill. One of my friends was saying before the pardon that if Trump pardoned him it would be some catastrophic miscarriage of justice. ::)
It is a crime and he was found to be guilty. And it is exceedingly difficult for a cop, let alone a "sheriff", to be found guilty of a crime with all the protections, immunities and power that they have. Should the people who were jailed or imprisoned in Arpaio's facilities for misdemeanors have been released? Should they have been pardoned?
Do you think political affiliation did not play a role here? Do you think Trump would not pardon David Clarke or another conservative outspoken cop if he committed crimes but he would otherwise pardon some outspoken liberal cop for similar things? Would you think political affiliation would not have come into play if Obama had pardoned Hillary? The pardon is an arcane relic that can be abused and rarely serves to correct the many injustices of the "justice" system.
I don't care if Arpaio is old or young or he dies in a week or lives another 20 years. If he is old and frail that is too bad for him but per his slogan "if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime". He should not have done the crime and after so many years of "enforcing the law", he should know better about that than an average citizen. No one should be above the laws, especially those who "enforce" them, the laws should apply equally to everyone.
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Because he's a piece of shit
Yeah, how so? Hasn't even had a traffic violation in over 50 years and suddenly he's a criminal? Vince, if you think he did something else besides uphold the law you're twisted.
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Yeah, how so? Hasn't even had a traffic violation in over 50 years and suddenly he's a criminal? Vince, if you think he did something else besides uphold the law you're twisted.
He has a laundry list of human rights violations, intimidation, extortion, even set up a mentally disabled kid to get re-elected. But Donald Trump is president and he has every right to pardon someone...there are people that Obama pardoned that I would have never let out of prison.
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He has a laundry list of human rights violations, intimidation, extortion, even set up a mentally disabled kid to get re-elected. But Donald Trump is president and he has every right to pardon someone...there are people that Obama pardoned that I would have never let out of prison.
Vince. What Human rights violations, intimidation and extortion? This was a political hit job to not get him re-elected during obamas presidency to once again shore up the Dem voting base. He's been re-elected 6-7 times not all of the sudden obama makes him out to be criminal for enforcing laws that were already on the books? Sure Vince, whatever you say.
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Vince. What Human rights violations, intimidation and extortion? This was a political hit job to not get him re-elected during obamas presidency to once again shore up the Dem voting base. He's been re-elected 6-7 times not all of the sudden obama makes him out to be criminal for enforcing laws that were already on the books? Sure Vince, whatever you say.
Read!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
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He has a laundry list of human rights violations, intimidation, extortion, even set up a mentally disabled kid to get re-elected. But Donald Trump is president and he has every right to pardon someone...there are people that Obama pardoned that I would have never let out of prison.
That is not true at all.
Trump's pardon of ex-Sheriff Joe Arpaio was the right (and courageous) thing to do. This guy sat through the entire sham trial, which was a direct violation of Arpaio's 6th Amendment right.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/08/26/trumps-pardon-ex-sheriff-joe-arpaio-was-right-and-courageous-thing-to-do.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4197734/Drug-dealer-jail-Obama-pardoned-him.html
why didnt this make national news?? you sheep need to wake up and quit being brainwashed by the msm liberal media... you look at North Korea and how they are brainwashed by their government/media and you laugh... how is it any different here?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4197734/Drug-dealer-jail-Obama-pardoned-him.html
why didnt this make national news?? you sheep need to wake up and quit being brainwashed by the msm liberal media... you look at North Korea and how they are brainwashed by their government/media and you laugh... how is it any different here?
Yep, look at the outrage over Trump's pardon of Arpaio vs Obama's of this lowlifes. Sad state of affairs that half of our country is essentially braindead. No debate on the life that guy chose to live.
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Read!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
if even a quarter of that were true he would have been in prison looooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooong before this whether Dem or Repub.
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Sheriff Joe is going to run for Senator against the Mormon pussy Jeff Flake.
It will be a monumental win by Arpaio
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Read!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio
I would also have to assume that you were of course good with Obama and Clinton pardoning traitors and terrorists.
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Sheriff Joe is going to run for Senator against the Mormon pussy Jeff Flake.
It will be a monumental win by Arpaio
That would be awesome.
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That would be awesome.
He says he may run for Mayor of Phoenix!
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Here Vince, listen. Maybe (but I seriously doubt it) should end the BS attack on Trump and Arpaio.
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Justice was not done in that Mickey Mouse court. Glad Trump swooped in a pardoned him.
Hey, how are all the criminals that Obama pardoned working out back in the free world. I'm sure they are all born again good citizens......oh wait.
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Non story. Marc rich ? FLAN terrorists ? All the Islamic filth ofagget let out of GITMO?
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Trump doesn't seem to understand that when Arpaio accepts the pardon he is also admitting he is guilty
Then again Trump is so fucking stupid that yesterday he said that Obama commuted the sentenced and "perhaps pardoned" Manning
how the fuck do you "perhaps pardon" someone
You can see this incomprehensible statement starting at ~ 2:50
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/28/donald-trump-pardons-joe-arpaio-clinton-marc-rich-weather-underground-brinks-chelsea
Trump also brought up the fact that Manning leaked documents to Wikileaks
Trump told us last year that HE LOVED WIKILEAKS
and actually really likes "leaks" too...well at least some leaks
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It is a crime and he was found to be guilty. And it is exceedingly difficult for a cop, let alone a "sheriff", to be found guilty of a crime with all the protections, immunities and power that they have. Should the people who were jailed or imprisoned in Arpaio's facilities for misdemeanors have been released? Should they have been pardoned?
Do you think political affiliation did not play a role here? Do you think Trump would not pardon David Clarke or another conservative outspoken cop if he committed crimes but he would otherwise pardon some outspoken liberal cop for similar things? Would you think political affiliation would not have come into play if Obama had pardoned Hillary? The pardon is an arcane relic that can be abused and rarely serves to correct the many injustices of the "justice" system.
I don't care if Arpaio is old or young or he dies in a week or lives another 20 years. If he is old and frail that is too bad for him but per his slogan "if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime". He should not have done the crime and after so many years of "enforcing the law", he should know better about that than an average citizen. No one should be above the laws, especially those who "enforce" them, the laws should apply equally to everyone.
I don't know? Were any of those prisoners subject to any kind of political prosecution?
Yes I think political affiliation probably played a role in making this guy a national news story. Obama had an enemies list and this was assuredly on it after promoting that birther crap.
Age should definitely be a factor when looking these kind of low level crimes. It doesn't give an elderly person a pass, but I definitely don't want to spend a lot of my tax dollars chasing an 85 year old man with no criminal record over something like this.
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I don't know? Were any of those prisoners subject to any kind of political prosecution?
Yes I think political affiliation probably played a role in making this guy a national news story. Obama had an enemies list and this was assuredly on it after promoting that birther crap.
Age should definitely be a factor when looking these kind of low level crimes. It doesn't give an elderly person a pass, but I definitely don't want to spend a lot of my tax dollars chasing an 85 year old man with no criminal record over something like this.
Obama and Holder went after Sheriff Joe like a couple of scorned prom dates.
After 8 years of trying to get anything on the Sheriff, they charge him with a misdemeanor.
Even left wing phaggots call Obama a phaggot.
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Obama and Holder went after Sheriff Joe like a couple of scorned prom dates.
After 8 years of trying to get anything on the Sheriff, they charge him with a misdemeanor.
Even left wing phaggots call Obama a phaggot.
I know Trumptards don't have much use for facts so this will likely be ignored (something Trumptards are going to have to get used to doing given recent revelations in the Russia investigation)
Arpaio said that his conviction for contempt of court was the result of a witch hunt by Obama administration Justice Department holdovers. The actual roots of the complaints that led to Arpaio’s conviction lie outside the Justice Department.
A 2007 private lawsuit turned into a class action lawsuit that led a George W. Bush-era federal judge to issue an injunction against Arpaio and his department. Over several years, Arpaio publicly declared that he would not change his ways. The original judge referred Arpaio’s case for criminal prosecution and a Clinton-era judge found him guilty.
The record, the law and legal opinion show the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona had control of the process, not Justice Department staff linked to the Obama administration.
We rate this claim False
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/29/joe-arpaio/arpaio-falsely-ties-conviction-obama-administratio/
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Obama and Holder went after Sheriff Joe like a couple of scorned prom dates.
After 8 years of trying to get anything on the Sheriff, they charge him with a misdemeanor.
Even left wing phaggots call Obama a phaggot.
No doubt.
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No doubt.
It's ironic when a black potus is more concerned about "humanitarian violations" like making convicted criminals wear pink underwear than he is about the war zone in the black neighborhoods of Chicago.
Fagbama brings in the Mexicans to gain votes, never realizing the illegals hate blacks more than anyone else short of the Japanese.
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And Mr Thrump has confirmed his guilt
Guilty of what?
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It's ironic when a black potus is more concerned about "humanitarian violations" like making convicted criminals wear pink underwear than he is about the war zone in the black neighborhoods of Chicago.
Fagbama brings in the Mexicans to gain votes, never realizing the illegals hate blacks more than anyone else short of the Japanese.
I just read up a bit on this guy. I think having people in tents where temperatures were above 100 degrees was absolutely wrong, but most of the other stuff I read sounded like he was just a tough, law and order man who was protecting American citizens from the flood of illegal aliens. The pink underwear thing was genius. ;D
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Mr Trump has not annulled the jusgement
by definition a pardon is for some wrong
Who cares? WTF an 85 year old man going to jail for as a first time offender? Stupid.
Libfaggets are just upset because he put those thugs in pink panties and in tents .
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It is pathetic how obsessed strawfag is with posting about President Trump. His personal hate for the president is very strange. Does straw have a job, or a girlfriend, or even a fucking dog? Anything to take his mind off constantly posting about Trump will do him a lot of good. Maybe someone here can set him up with a bumble account.
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Mr Trump has not annulled the jusgement
by definition a pardon is for some wrong
per Supreme Court Burdick v. United States accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt
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I just read up a bit on this guy. I think having people in tents where temperatures were above 100 degrees was absolutely wrong, but most of the other stuff I read sounded like he was just a tough, law and order man who was protecting American citizens from the flood of illegal aliens. The pink underwear thing was genius. ;D
how is it that you're just learning about the tents and pink underwear (not surprised you like that)
btw - he also wasted taxpayer money sending a deputy to Hawaii to "investigate" Obama's birth certificate (no doubt one of the main reasons Trump seems to love him)
https://www.aclu.org/blog/immigrants-rights/five-reasons-racist-sheriff-joe-arpaio-should-not-receive-presidential-pardon
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I just read up a bit on this guy. I think having people in tents where temperatures were above 100 degrees was absolutely wrong, but most of the other stuff I read sounded like he was just a tough, law and order man who was protecting American citizens from the flood of illegal aliens. The pink underwear thing was genius. ;D
If Tent City is so inhumane, why is it still open?
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If Tent City is so inhumane, why is it still open?
The new Sheriff said in April of this year that he would close it within 6 months and there are only a few hundred people left there at the moment
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2017/04/04/maricopa-county-sheriff-paul-penzone-tent-city-closing/100023562/
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The new Sheriff said in April of this year that he would close it within 6 months and there are only a few hundred people left there at the moment
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2017/04/04/maricopa-county-sheriff-paul-penzone-tent-city-closing/100023562/
350-400 people still there and Phoenix hit 121-124F in the City in June.
Yet Tent City was open and being used.
Like obamafag closing Gitmo.
Fucking liberal hypocrites.
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350-400 people still there and Phoenix hit 121-124F in the City in June.
Yet Tent City was open and being used.
Like obamafag closing Gitmo.
Fucking liberal hypocrites.
Do you have to make and effort to be this fucking stupid
They're in the process of closing it down. At its peak it had ~ 1700 inmates and in June only ~ 350 were left.
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Do you have to make and effort to be this fucking stupid
They're in the process of closing it down. At its peak it had ~ 1700 inmates and in June only ~ 350 were left.
Who gives a fuck what it was at its peak? It is still open and still being used.
What makes you feel that it's more inhumane for a prisoner in Maricopa to sleep in a tent in the desert than the men and women of the US military who do it every day?
You don't have the first fucking clue about Tent City. It's another fake news ploy to attack Sheriff Joe. Everyone here knows that. The majority of the prisoners housed there in the summer under Arpaio were on work furlough anyway.
Maybe you can upgrade their website for $240 though?
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Who gives a fuck what it was at its peak? It is still open and still being used.
What makes you feel that it's more inhumane for a prisoner in Maricopa to sleep in a tent in the desert than the men and women of the US military who do it every day?
You don't have the first fucking clue about Tent City. It's another fake news ploy to attack Sheriff Joe. Everyone here knows that. The majority of the prisoners housed there in the summer under Arpaio were on work furlough anyway.
Maybe you can upgrade their website for $240 though?
He's not a Sheriff anymore so now it's just Joe or douchebag or asshole
It will be closed in a few more months so enjoy your specious argument while you can
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He's not a Sheriff anymore so now it's just Joe or douchebag or asshole
It will be closed in a few more months so enjoy your specious argument while you can
You didn't answer the question.
Why do you think a convict in Maricopa County deserves better accommodations than the men and women serving in the US military?
Do you think going to jail should be like going to a golf course country club?
Tell us all why you think criminals in Maricopa County are more important than military personnel?
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You didn't answer the question.
Why do you think a convict in Maricopa County deserves better accommodations than the men and women serving in the US military?
Do you think going to jail should be like going to a golf course country club?
Tell us all why you think criminals in Maricopa County are more important than military personnel?
Sometimes people in the military don't even have tents
Like I said before, enjoy your meaningless argument and bullshit comparisons for a few more months.
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Sometimes people in the military don't even have tents
Like I said before, enjoy your meaningless argument and bullshit comparisons for a few more months.
Just so we are all clear:
You know nothing about SHERIFF Joe Arpaio.
You know nothing about Tent City.
You know nothing about the Tent City work-furlough program.
You know nothing about the obamafag and DOJ witch hunt against SHERIFF Joe.
Your sources of information are Wikipedia and AZ Central. ::)
And you believe criminals in Maricopa County are more important than the people in the US military.
You should have stuck to pimping your shitty $24 websites.
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Just so we are all clear
You know nothing about SHERIFF Joe Arpaio.
there is no one called "Sheriff" Arpaio
You know nothing about Tent City.
You know nothing about the Tent City work-furlough program.
There soon will be no Tent City
You know nothing about the obamafag and DOJ witch hunt against SHERIFF Joe.
repost for Trumptard who continues to lie
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/29/joe-arpaio/arpaio-falsely-ties-conviction-obama-administratio/
Your sources of information are Wikipedia and AZ Central. ::)
no quotes here from Wiki and your claims are bereft of ANY source
And you believe criminals in Maricopa County are more important than the people in the US military.
You're a pathetic liar. I've never said any such thing
You should have stuck to pimping your shitty $24 websites.
I've never made a website in my life
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there is no one called "Sheriff" ArpaioThere soon will be no Tent Cityrepost for Trumptard who continues to lie
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/29/joe-arpaio/arpaio-falsely-ties-conviction-obama-administratio/no quotes here from Wiki and your claims are bereft of ANY sourceYou're a pathetic liar. I've never said any such thing
I've never made a website in my life
Just what I figured, you know sweet fuck all about sweet fuck all and you're a blatant liar.
Good god those $24 websites must suck ass.
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Just what I figured, you know sweet fuck all about sweet fuck all and you're a blatant liar.
Good god those $24 websites must suck ass.
try to keep in mind that I know for a fact that I'm not 240 and that no one uses my account other than me
knowing that for a fact means that I also know for a fact that you're a delusional moron along with being an pathetic liar (as I've already pointed out in prior posts)
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try to keep in mind that I know for a fact that I'm not 240 and that no one uses my account other than me
knowing that for a fact means that I also know for a fact that you're a delusional moron along with being an pathetic liar (as I've already pointed out in prior posts)
You know for a fact that you are you and not somebody else? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Just get it over with and kill yourself fag.
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try to keep in mind that I know for a fact that I'm not 240 and that no one uses my account other than me
knowing that for a fact means that I also know for a fact that you're a delusional moron along with being an pathetic liar (as I've already pointed out in prior posts)
Rob you whiny little twink....can you make me a $24 website about George Zimmerman?
Come on Princess, it can be really cool, I will get Skittles and Arizona Ice Tea to sponsor it!
I also want that gif of George smiling in the courtroom right on the front page. Underneath the gif it will say, "suck it 240LiberalCuck".
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there is no one called "Sheriff" ArpaioThere soon will be no Tent Cityrepost for Trumptard who continues to lie
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/aug/29/joe-arpaio/arpaio-falsely-ties-conviction-obama-administratio/no quotes here from Wiki and your claims are bereft of ANY sourceYou're a pathetic liar. I've never said any such thing
I've never made a website in my life
Most "fact" checking sites are complete left leaning sources so quit with the "snopes" and "politifact" crap. Even Wikipedia changed some of the content about Mark Levin. You'll never accept the fact that the political left politicians, left media and leftist sites are all corrupt and blatant liars but you still fall for it.
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Sometimes people in the military don't even have tents
Like I said before, enjoy your meaningless argument and bullshit comparisons for a few more months.
please point to a meaningful argument on this website. pro-tip: you can't
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Whats done is done. the real conversation should be why in the hell a President has the power to pardon anyone without question, and how soon can that power be revoked? It's been abused for as long as I've been around.
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please point to a meaningful argument on this website. pro-tip: you can't
refer to any of my posts
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refer to any of my posts
I don't dig through the garbage. Thanks!
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I don't dig through the garbage. Thanks!
I'll keep that in mind for all your future worthless posts
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I don't dig through the garbage. Thanks!
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Judge dismisses case against pardoned Arpaio
By Samuel Chamberlain, Fox News
A federal judge in Phoenix Wednesday formally dismissed the criminal case against former Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, accepting President Donald Trump's pardon of the controversial lawman.
U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton dismissed Arpaio's conviction with prejudice, meaning the matter cannot be tried again. Bolton held off on ruling on Arpaio's request to throw out all orders in the case, including a blistering 14-page ruling in which the judge explained her original reasoning in finding that Arpaio was guilty of a crime.
Arpaio was convicted in July of criminal contempt for what Bolton described as "flagrant disregard" of a 2011 court order to halt traffic patrols that targeted immigrants.
Trump pardoned Arpaio Aug. 25, setting off a firestorm of criticism from legal advocates and congressional Democrats, more than 30 of whom asked Bolton to declare the pardon invalid and move forward with sentencing.
Arpaio attorney Mark Goldman described the attempted intervention by lawmakers as "despicable."
"What are our Democrat congressmen doing?" asked Goldman, who described the lawmakers as "narcissistic idiots ... making a statement where they have no standing to make any statement whatsoever."
The former sheriff, who didn't attend Wednesday's hearing in federal court, was accused of continuing the patrols for 17 months so that he could promote his immigration enforcement efforts in a bid to boost his successful 2012 re-election campaign.
Bolton's ruling cited television interviews and news releases in which the sheriff made comments about keeping up the patrols, even though he knew they were no longer allowed.
Arpaio, who endorsed Trump and appeared alongside him at rallies during the 2016 campaign, has acknowledged prolonging the patrols, but insisted his disobedience wasn't intentional and blamed one of his former attorneys for not adequately explaining the order's importance.
Critics say the pardon removed the last chance at holding Arpaio legally accountable for a long history of misconduct, including a 2013 civil verdict in which Arpaio's officers were found to have racially profiled Latinos in the sheriff's immigration patrols. The order that Arpaio acknowledged violating was issued by U.S. District Murray Snow in the profiling case.
Prosecutor John Keller said it was appropriate to dismiss the case against Arpaio.
"This prosecution is over," Keller said. "The defendant will never be held accountable for his contempt of Judge Snow's injunction."
Bolton has previously said case law suggests a pardon doesn't erase a recipient's underlying record of conviction and instead is aimed at lessening or canceling punishment. The pardon had previously led the judge to cancel Arpaio's sentencing hearing.
Lawyers who won the racial profiling verdict against Arpaio had argued earlier that the decision explaining the guilty verdict should remain intact to serve as a rebuke of the sheriff's actions and as a deterrent to other politicians who might want to disobey a judge's orders.
Since the pardon, Arpaio has said he did nothing wrong, criticized Bolton as biased and called the offense behind his conviction a "petty crime." Arpaio, who was defeated last year in the same election that sent Trump to the White House, is now talking about getting back into politics.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/04/judge-dismisses-case-against-pardoned-arpaio.html
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Joe Arpaio running for Senate in Arizona
by David M. Drucker | Jan 9, 2018
Republican Joe Arpaio, a close ally of President Trump and former sheriff known for his provocative approach to combatting illegal immigration, is running for Senate in Arizona.
The 85-year-old Arpaio could shake up the late August Republican primary in a critical open-seat race to replace retiring Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz. Trump pardoned Arpaio last summer, sparing the former sheriff jail time after he was convicted of ignoring a federal court order in a racial-profiling case.
The polarizing yet iconic former Maricopa County sheriff, beloved by many conservatives for his hawkish immigration policies, presents an alternative to the unimpressive Kelli Ward and a potential obstacle to Rep. Martha McSally. She is expected to launch within days and is widely viewed as the Republicans’ strongest general election candidate.
In a telephone interview with the Washington Examiner, Arpaio shrugged off concerns about his age, dismissed Republican insiders’ anxiety that his poor reputation with nonwhite voters would put the seat in play for the Democrats in the midterm, and discussed plans to work with Trump on behalf of Arizona.
“I have a lot to offer. I’m a big supporter of President Trump,” Arpaio said. “I’m going to have to work hard; you don’t take anything for granted. But I would not being doing this if I thought that I could not win. I’m not here to get my name in the paper, I get that everyday, anyway.”
Arpaio served as the elected sheriff of Maricopa County, which encompasses Phoenix and surrounding suburbs, for 24 years until a Democrat ousted him in 2016.
Through strict opposition to illegal immigration and unorthodox policing methods, Arpaio cultivated a national image as a tough, law-and-order cop. That made him a favorite of conservative media and popular on the GOP endorsement circuit as Republicans throughout the country sought to bolster their border security bona fides in primaries.
Arpaio’s sharp rhetoric and law enforcement practices also drew intense criticism. Democrats, some Republicans, and advocates for immigrants — both legal and illegal — accused him of unconstitutional racial profiling and even bigotry. Arpaio said he expects more of the same in his Senate campaign, but vowed not to alter his approach.
“My mother and father came here from Italy, legally of course. I have a soft spot for the Mexican community having lived there,” he said. “I’m not going to get into my personal life, but I will say we have four grandkids and some have a different ethnic and racial background. I don’t say that. I don’t use my grandkids. So, I have a soft spot, but still, I’m going to do my job. You have to do it.”
“Being a U.S. senator is a little different than being the sheriff, because you can do a lot of things in the U.S. Senate, and I have many plans, believe me. It’s tough. It’s a tough decision. But, if you’re going to come across that border, you should be arrested and get the consequences of it,” Arpaio added.
Trump won Arizona in 2016 by just 4.1 percentage points. Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton was rising in the state until the final 10 days of the presidential campaign, when the FBI revealed that it was taking a fresh look into her use of a private email server during her tenure as secretary of state and halted her momentum.
Trump's job approval numbers with nonwhites and suburbanites since have been poor. That's potentially significant in Arizona, where both voting blocs can be influential.
To be sure, Arpaio’s reputation and close affiliation with Trump is virtually guaranteed to rev up a conservative base that had pushed the pragmatic Flake into retirement because of his feud with the president. That could work in his favor in a midterm, elections in which Republican turnout has tended to dominate. But in an election shaping up as challenging for the GOP, Arpaio’s candidacy could make nervous a party defending a 51-49 Senate majority.
Even if Arpaio loses the primary to McSally, he would have had seven months to push her to the right and define GOP messaging on a host of issues — and not just in Arizona. Trump is sure to promote Arpaio’s campaign, and Republican primary candidates all over the country might follow his lead.
Arpaio said he relishes the fight, whether from the Left or from supporters of McSally on the Right.
“I am outspoken. I’m looking forward to it. Let them come. They’ll have their political firing squads and bring tons of money here, because they don’t want to lose,” he said. “I just want to do everything I can to support our president.”
Arpaio said he expects Democrats to make an issue of the pardon. It was granted on Aug. 25, his wife’s 86th birthday. Arpaio noted that fact, and that he shares a birthday with Trump — June 14 — with a sense of satisfaction, as he did the periodic calls from the president to check in on his wife's health.
The former sheriff said he has not personally discussed his Senate bid with Trump and emphasized that he didn’t ask for the pardon nor did he know that it was coming. But Arpaio did not apologize for it, calling his conviction part of a political witch hunt by former President Barack Obama and his first attorney general, Eric Holder.
Unprompted, Arpaio added that Flake, and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., with whom he said he has a "love-hate" relationship, opposed the pardon.
“This started under Obama and Holder 60 days after they took office and it took them all these years to get me on a contempt of court charge, a misdemeanor. You get the same time for barking dogs,” he said.
Arpaio was vague on his policy agenda beyond immigration enforcement. That’s not unusual. Candidates, especially at the beginning of a campaign, tend to try and keep their message focused on a few bullet points and maintain flexibility by not putting down too many markers.
Arpaio’s main offer to Arizonans: He would support Trump unflinchingly, should he win the nomination and defeat the likely Democratic nominee, Rep. Kyrsten Sinema. That’s not insignificant. Both Flake and McCain have a contentious relationship with the president, and he with them.
To that end, Arpaio suggested he could support some form of legalization of participants in the since discontinued Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program that protected illegal immigrants brought in as children from deportation. Of course, in typical fashion, Arpaio offered his own view of what should be done.
“I have a far-out plan, which may look stupid,” he said. “When they come to your attention that they’re here illegally, these young people, deport them back to Mexico — or whatever — and then try to put them on a fast track to come back into the United States legally with special permits. What’s wrong with that? They’d say they don’t know where their home country is, so let them go there and spend six months, because it might take that long to do paperwork to get them here legally and let them see their home country and see what it's really like. They ought to be proud where they came from. I’m proud being an Italian American. I’m proud of Italy. I’m proud my father, mother came over, proud of it. So, you could kill two birds with one stone.”
“That would be no amnesty, everybody would be happy, you deport them and then let them come back with all their education here. I’m sure they could find a temporary job or help the foreign countries and build up relations and come back. That’s just a big picture that I have. People may say I’m crazy. What am I crazy about? It just makes sense.”
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/joe-arpaio-running-for-senate-in-arizona/article/2645354
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I don't see it. He is too tainted. I don't think Republicans want to risk another Moore type result when there is a Republican candidate ready to go without having to publicly fight it out in the news for the spot. Your thoughts?
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dumb - too old, fat, and tainted.
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Just what we (don't) need, another dinosaur.. As if we don't have enough fossils in the Senate now, Feinstein and McCain, just to name a few..