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Pretty good physique. His stats:
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 185 lbs off 162 lbs contest
3 years weight lifting
bodybuilders.com/amateur.htm
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Depending on how long he's been training I say he's a nattie.
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Heavy diet of META.
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Size wise this is obtainable naturally, but I would say his vascularity is not. Im pretty much the same size as this guy, actually I got better lats as well, but Im noooo where in hell near his vascularity. Impressive physique none the less. Dont hate.
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Size wise this is obtainable naturally, but I would say his vascularity is not. Im pretty much the same size as this guy, actually I got better lats as well, but Im noooo where in hell near his vascularity. Impressive physique none the less. Dont hate.
Lol at the word natural being used to describe this physique. Are you retarded this is a guy abusing the shit out of tren
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the condition is totally achievable naturally :D... but having that kind of muscle at the same time.. well...
I say he is a complete natural trainer. I want to know how much he has been training for fuck sake!
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Lol at the word natural being used to describe this physique. Are you retarded this is a guy abusing the shit out of tren
I didnt say he was natural, I said you can obtain this size naturally. Dont let the look fool you, this guy is shredded as hell and gives the illusion that he is bigger than he really is. Put a t-shirt on this guy and watch him disappear. :) (Not that that has anything to do with being natural though, but just saying..) I also take back my previous statement looking at his conditioning again. I think his vascularity is obtainable naturally as well.
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Lifetime Natural.
As always, a Lifetime Natural can easily best a steroid user in terms of lean ness. How many times do I have to say this to you morons?
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That level of chest development cannot be achieved naturally
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Regardless of clean or not,you can tell he does a lot of cardio and eats very strictly.
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I hope this helps morons.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135948321&page=1
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What TA said
Secondly how fucking long has he been training? I think it's one of the major key factorys here regarding his natural status.
I don't think cardio is a big factory in his leannes. Just a naturally born ectomorph. Hard training/enough cardio/food
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8 Weeks out here.
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I hope this helps morons.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=135948321&page=1
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Yes, this guy is belivable. Hard worker for sure. Props to him!
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8 Weeks out here.
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he looks totally natural.
How long has he been TRAINING?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by CaseySmithBB
General Notes: Well here we are! 47 days out! I am not going to lie, the fact that I've consistently lost weight nearly every week of this 25 week prep has been INCREDIBLY motivating. I try not to obsess over the scale. I only weigh myself first thing in the morning, and that's it! I don't bother weighing myself any other time.
HOLY FREAKIN' LUCKY CHARMS & ICE CREAM SANDWICHES! YES!
I feel with this weight drop I got a little more definition in my legs and glutes! I'll post progress pics later this week, then we'll get a better idea what difference the drop in weight made to my physique.
Notes on Diet/Training:
Okay, so I'm just going to break down how I construct my diet step-by-step. That way if my friends, somebody online, or anybody interested can see how I do it. I follow a principle of dieting known as:
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Maintenance Calories - Bodyweight x 15 = (165.6)*(15) = 2,484kcals
Calories to Subtract from Maintenance Calories (to lose ~1.5lbs a week) - ]5,250kcal/ week = 750kcal / day
New Daily Caloric Intake (after subtracting necessary calories to reach weight-loss goal) - 2,484 - 750kcal = 1,734kcal
Protein Requirements - 1.26g protein per 1lbs bodyweight = (1.26)*(165.6) ~ 210g Protein/Day
Fat Requirements - 0.45g fat per 1lbs bodyweight = (0.45)*(165.6) ~ 75g Fat/Day
Estimated Calories from Protein - (210)*(4) = 840kcal
Estimated Calories from Fat - (75)*(9) = 675kcal
Remaining Calories after Protein/Fat - 1,734 - (840+675) = 219kcals
However, I incorporate not only weighlifting, but consistent cardio throughout my contest prep. I am able to consistently (not necessarily accurately) keep track of the amount of calories, to an extent, through my cardio.
How do I determine how much cardio to do?
I have not done one session of cardio OVER 30minutes this entire 25 week contest prep. I usually get cardio done in about or less than 20 minutes.
I will generally plug my planned meals into my excel file and have all my macronutrients predetermined. I'll then manipulate my remaining calories (after reaching protein/fat requirements) to contribute towards my caloric deficit, as to not have all my caloric deficit dependent on plugging myself into a stairmaster for ridiculous amounts of my life! lol
I see some people posting things like "Whew! Cardio session #1 done! 90 minutes in the books! Gonna do another 90 later tonight!".....OMFG! I would literally shoot myself, haha. If that's what it takes to reach their goals, respect.
So that's it.
In short,
1) Calories In vs. Calories Out
2) Meet macronutrient requirements then do whatever I want with the remaining calories (I will almost ALWAYS include a minimum of 2 servings fruit, and 3-4 servings fibrous green veggies into this to acquire extra fiber and micronutrients)
3) Split caloric deficit between my nutrition plan and my Cardio
4) Lose weight, keep as much size & strength as possible, and keep people scratching their heads as to how I'm doing it while chowing down a bowl consisting of ice cream, candy bars, lucky charms, and "dangerously" sugary fruits!
Have a wonderful day!
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Guy looks great! Good job.
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I believe he is drug free, his build is achievable naturally no question. Being that lean gives the illusion of size, look at him in his offseason or with a shirt on and he disappears.
But really, no one knows the truth but himself...nowadays anybody could be using something and passing off as natural. Remember sporto TA? lol
Another thing.....how many hours a day do you spend searching and looking at these natural bodybuilders TA? It is quite amusing to see how fast you were able to find that thread and all the shit. :-X
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Also, would love to read what Wes says about his "strict diet" now? :D
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8 Weeks out here.
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this guy is a hard call, doesn't have the cannon ball delts or any real cuts in his legs. a buddy of mine ate clean for a yr and did high reps and was similar to this guy with more chest, but he was clean. his main cardio was racquetball 3-4 times a week. again, hard call on his naturalness but i've seen it first hand.
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I believe he is drug free, his build is achievable naturally no question. Being that lean gives the illusion of size, look at him in his offseason or with a shirt on and he disappears.
But really, no one knows the truth but himself...nowadays anybody could be using something and passing off as natural. Remember sporto TA? lol
Another thing.....how many hours a day do you spend searching and looking at these natural bodybuilders TA? It is quite amusing to see how fast you were able to find that thread and all the shit. :-X
I concern myself right now only with Natural bodybuilders as that is what I am. I keep abreast on what is going on. I am glad that myself and Wavelength and others have been able to get everyone away from the "traditional Bullshit Bro-Science".
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this guy is a hard call, doesn't have the cannon ball delts or any real cuts in his legs. a buddy of mine ate clean for a yr and did high reps and was similar to this guy with more chest, but he was clean. his main cardio was racquetball 3-4 times a week. again, hard call on his naturalness but i've seen it first hand.
Like its a mystery. ::)
Please die already. You are useless.
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You don't want to get into this again TA trust me. He's shredded but he's also 5'9 and 162. If he turns sideways he'd disappear.
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I concern myself right now only with Natural bodybuilders as that is what I am. I keep abreast on what is going on. I am glad that myself and Wavelength and others have been able to get everyone away from the "traditional Bullshit Bro-Science".
That's good, typically natural guys should do things differently than bbers on hormones in my opinion as well. In my experience, straying away from the traditional stuff gave better results.
But still, kind of strange how you found it so fast...did you already know about the guy?
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Doesnt matter how small he is. Hes
Not natural. Is ephedrine natural?
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Doesnt matter how small he is. Hes
Not natural. Is ephedrine natural?
How do you know he is using ephedrine? His build is achievable naturally, so one could belive him. Obviously only he knows the truth.
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What TA said
Secondly how fucking long has he been training? I think it's one of the major key factorys here regarding his natural status.
I don't think cardio is a big factory in his leannes. Just a naturally born ectomorph. Hard training/enough cardio/food
3 years
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I believe you can get to his point naturally, but not in 3 years.
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Here is his profile
bodybuilders.com/amateur.htm
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3 years
only 3 years?
I doubt him a little bit now... but, maby he has been training 100% correctly, sleeping, resting and doing everything by the book, huh ::)
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he is a twink muffin
kudos for him though
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There is more than one way to get lean Adam. Just like there is more than one way to workout. The secret is in which way is "superior" in how quickly it gets you big or ripped, and the amount of muscle you are able to maintain while doing it. I prefer the low carb approach.
Low Carb may meet your goal appearance wise, however you will be nutritionally deficient and therefore from a health perspective it is an epic fail over time.
A Multi-Vitamin does not make up for these deficiencies at all and there are many studies out showing that Multi-Vitamins are harmful to your health. I can provide studies if you are in disbelief.
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Size wise this is obtainable naturally, but I would say his vascularity is not. Im pretty much the same size as this guy, actually I got better lats as well, but Im noooo where in hell near his vascularity. Impressive physique none the less. Dont hate.
no no no NO NO NOOOOOO!
they never learn...
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I didnt say he was natural, I said you can obtain this size naturally. Dont let the look fool you, this guy is shredded as hell and gives the illusion that he is bigger than he really is. Put a t-shirt on this guy and watch him disappear. :) (Not that that has anything to do with being natural though, but just saying..) I also take back my previous statement looking at his conditioning again. I think his vascularity is obtainable naturally as well.
NO WRONG AGAIN
you don't realize when you say that how big this guy would be if he had normal fat and water levels.
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Sure, he can be natural, no doubt.
But that is "peak conditioning." He's not going to be looking like that every day. And if he does, then he ain't natural.......
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A homosexual
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tiny...but add T3 and clemn to that
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Pretty good physique. His stats:
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 185 lbs off 162 lbs contest
3 years weight lifting
bodybuilders.com/amateur.htm
Id say minimal doses of test prop,tren, and EQ,masteron. that kind of vascularity rarely comes natural.
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Id say minimal doses of test prop,tren, and EQ,masteron. that kind of vascularity rarely comes natural.
this...after all these "natural guys" have certain image to protect and present..they can look as ripped as the possibly can but they cant look too big or it would be too obvious..so they keep their drug intake to a minimal.
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proof that 162 conditioned is way more impressive than a 220 fatfuck.
yes natural
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This is not possible without drugs?
Fuck it, might as well just go to the gym and do cardio and look at chick's asses then.
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Look at all the dumb roiders stumbling over themselves because they can`t get as ripped.
NATURALS get more ripped than roiders. Deal with it.
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Sure, he can be natural, no doubt.
But that is "peak conditioning." He's not going to be looking like that every day. And if he does, then he ain't natural.......
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Yes, because eating 2000 calories and working out 4-7 days a week is just so tough.
Why are you people so dumb? Seriously?
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Look at all the dumb roiders stumbling over themselves because they can`t get as ripped.
NATURALS get more ripped than roiders. Deal with it.
lol no no no. you can never get this ripped without DRUGS.
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lol no no no. you can never get this ripped without DRUGS.
Just because you never did epic fail-face does not mean thousands and thousands of others have.
Being ripped has fuck all nothing to do with drugs.
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Looks like an impressive natural to me
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Just because you never did epic fail-face does not mean thousands and thousands of others have.
Being ripped has fuck all nothing to do with drugs.
BUT! i know better not only bc i read the words of gh15 but because i was natural for 10 years straight lifting weights hardcore to the bone balls to the wall never miss a workout eating cleaner than anyone on this board guaranteed. and my physic could never touch this guy's and he's only lifted for three years! lol
so don't be so naive
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Also, would love to read what Wes says about his "strict diet" now? :D
Hey when I was his age,I could eat tons of shit and stay ripped..........at 56 years old,it ain`t as easy.
It`s not like I invented eating clean,but I`d say the majority of competitors eat similar to me as opposed to this guys methods.
Try his diet,and see how you fare on it.
First thing for me that would be a pain in my ass personally,is that I`d have to become a fucking master chef............the simpler the better for me when eating 6 X a day.
My "clean" meals take no time to prepare and truthfully,I really don`t mind eating that way.
If I ate his tasty looking dishes,it would actually be harder for me not to over-indulge.
Try dieting over 25 weeks.......it`s not a cakewalk.......no pun intended!! ;D
One more contest to go for me as I started my diet on April 11th. with just a few post contest eating binges and then back to my strict regimen.............did 2 contests thus far and my next one is in 11 days.
I also do believe he`s natural.
jprc10,ever seen 5% bodyfat?
If not,give this guys methods a shot,they seem to work wonders.....if so,please outline the diet you used.
Bottom line,do what works for you and do what you like.
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Ripped to shreds but for what it's worth ...lacking any quality muscle mass ... legs seem almost untrained...def. a Natty. One of my best friends is just like him, naturally ripped, works out for a month and looks like Zane. But will never be able to put on alot of weight.
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genetics
BULL SHIT
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Ripped to shreds but for what it's worth ...lacking any quality muscle mass ... legs seem almost untrained...def. a Natty. One of my best friends is just like him, naturally ripped, works out for a month and looks like Zane. But will never be able to put on alot of weight.
ZANE WAS NOT NATTY neither is this dude
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BUT! i know better not only bc i read the words of gh15 but because i was natural for 10 years straight lifting weights hardcore to the bone balls to the wall never miss a workout eating cleaner than anyone on this board guaranteed. and my physic could never touch this guy's and he's only lifted for three years! lol
Maybe you just look like shit.
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Some winnie tabs here and there, some mast. + a really strict/clean diet = this kind of physique/condition.
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as natural as a cock in the ass.
fuck you guys are slow- its not his conditioning that points to his being natural or not.
you're all looking at the wrong criteria (conditioning) to judge his status (natural/ enhanced)
when you want to tell if a guy is clean or what a guy is on you cant use conditioning as a yardstick- some guys can get pretty lean clean.
its the density and roundness of his delts that give it away. hes using. tren for sure.
use the type and kind of muscularity- in this case the roundness and density of the delts and the thickness thru his delts/ chest to tell what someone is running. natural guys dont have that 'pop' or roundness to the delt. theres a lot of dense, solid TREN built lean tissue there. post a pic of him standing to the front, relaxed- you'll see some pretty fucking sick shoulder caps for a small guy.
class dismissed, bitches.
ps. winstrol too. this kid eats them like tic tacs.
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I'd say tren is not necessary in this case. OR - it's either tren and less strict diet, or some winnie/mast and a very clean diet.
And this is after duretics already used, probably just before a show or shortly after..
Anyway- he's not natural nor even "clean" by ANY means..
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What kind of cycle is this guy on?
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Pretty good physique. His stats:
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 185 lbs off 162 lbs contest
3 years weight lifting
bodybuilders.com/amateur.htm
6 grams a week, at least.
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6 grams a week, at least.
lol
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as natural as a cock in the ass.
fuck you guys are slow- its not his conditioning that points to his being natural or not.
you're all looking at the wrong criteria (conditioning) to judge his status (natural/ enhanced)
when you want to tell if a guy is clean or what a guy is on you cant use conditioning as a yardstick- some guys can get pretty lean clean.
its the density and roundness of his delts that give it away. hes using. tren for sure.
use the type and kind of muscularity- in this case the roundness and density of the delts and the thickness thru his delts/ chest to tell what someone is running. natural guys dont have that 'pop' or roundness to the delt. theres a lot of dense, solid TREN built lean tissue there. post a pic of him standing to the front, relaxed- you'll see some pretty fucking sick shoulder caps for a small guy.
class dismissed, bitches.
ps. winstrol too. this kid eats them like tic tacs.
This - and TA Fuck off you gormless idiot ::)
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Regardless of clean or not,you can tell he does a lot of cardio and eats very strictly.
This ^^
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Lucky to be born with genetics to be naturally ripped. Probably looks like nothing in clothes and with a shirt off boom
Don`t put forth a hypothesis without knowing the facts.
Here he was 24 weeks out and pretty fat.
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as natural as a cock in the ass.
fuck you guys are slow- its not his conditioning that points to his being natural or not.
you're all looking at the wrong criteria (conditioning) to judge his status (natural/ enhanced)
when you want to tell if a guy is clean or what a guy is on you cant use conditioning as a yardstick- some guys can get pretty lean clean.
its the density and roundness of his delts that give it away. hes using. tren for sure.
use the type and kind of muscularity- in this case the roundness and density of the delts and the thickness thru his delts/ chest to tell what someone is running. natural guys dont have that 'pop' or roundness to the delt. theres a lot of dense, solid TREN built lean tissue there. post a pic of him standing to the front, relaxed- you'll see some pretty fucking sick shoulder caps for a small guy.
class dismissed, bitches.
ps. winstrol too. this kid eats them like tic tacs.
You obviously don`t know a goddamn thing you human waste bucket. I`m tired of roiders with absolute shit genetics (you must have them also because you achieved NOTHING Naturally, like most on here) who don`t know anything as it pertains to Natural Bodybuilding and how a Natural Bodybuilder "looks".
Stick to shoving drugs down your throat and up your ass fat fucko. Same goes for Will Grant and the rest of the shitty genetic club who achieved NOTHING naturally.
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Don`t put forth a hypothesis without knowing the facts.
Here he was 24 weeks out and pretty fat.
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people saying he looks untrained in clothes ripped,,i'd say the other way around looks untrained bulked.great transformation if he going to compete further stay leaner if he's really clean.
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I must have been on 1000 GH units and 2800 grams of Test and 400 MegaGrams of Winstrol for these pictures.
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I must have been on 1000 GH units and 2800 grams of Test and 400 MegaGrams of Winstrol for these pictures.
the other guy is thicker than you, thought
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I must have been on 1000 GH units and 2800 grams of Test and 400 MegaGrams of Winstrol for these pictures.
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Don't bend your wrist downward like that. That's what a noob/Jason Genova does.
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the other guy is thicker than you, thought
Actually he isn`t and he isn`t near as strong as me either.
He looks very good. I am going to post some new pictures soon as I have been gaining and losing bodyfat to try to get to an insane level of rippedness. I am nearly there.
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I must have been on 1000 GH units and 2800 grams of Test and 400 MegaGrams of Winstrol for these pictures.
ahahahahaha your 'shoulders' for lack of a better word for them, have less then HALF the amount of quality lean tissue and density to them than the kid you have pictured and nowhere NEAR the cap, stooge. shave that last little bit of baby fat off you and youd soon find your shoulders are very much non existent as opposed to being unremarkable at best.
thanks for proving my point by posting those tired 4 year old once in a lifetime but still not lean despite the use of every natural diuretic you could get your hands on pics of yours, pansy.
btw kids- take a good look at every pic 'adonis' has posted of his all time best conditioning- thats the problem with diuretics- when you use them and your still too fat your fat they really highlight the amount of adipose you still hold abdominally, especially around the belly button...
thanks for playing, stud.
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Structured diet, trains hard and consistant, early 30's age. I say drug free. Dude looks good.
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Regardless of clean or not,you can tell he does a lot of cardio and eats very strictly.
this^
there are a million lean twinks like this on miami beach. newsflash, not everyone is running tren mast and eq
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stop pming me with thid balonie ,, im not going to do new posting abotu this,, let me read this one and il lsay what he is on or not ,, i didnt even see him yet already 3 pms about this balonie,, wait let me read this and take a look
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I believe you can get to his point naturally, but not in 3 years.
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you cant and i will explain in few min,, i want to finishn read
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Id say minimal doses of test prop,tren, and EQ,masteron. that kind of vascularity rarely comes natural.
very very good,, but not exactly ,, i will explain in a moment
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Ripped to shreds but for what it's worth ...lacking any quality muscle mass ... legs seem almost untrained...def. a Natty. One of my best friends is just like him, naturally ripped, works out for a month and looks like Zane. But will never be able to put on alot of weight.
no your friend is not like him ,, your friend didnt achieve some glory on internet from picturs,, this is superb physiqe ,, your friend may be close....but your friend is not this level becuase your friend is most likley true natural ,, will explain in a second
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Don`t put forth a hypothesis without knowing the facts.
Here he was 24 weeks out and pretty fat.
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thank you ,, this is all i needed ,,
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Structured diet, trains hard and consistant, early 30's age. I say drug free. Dude looks good.
wrong and i will explain in a second
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ahahahahaha your 'shoulders' for lack of a better word for them, have less then HALF the amount of quality lean tissue and density to them than the kid you have pictured and nowhere NEAR the cap, stooge. shave that last little bit of baby fat off you and youd soon find your shoulders are very much non existent as opposed to being unremarkable at best.
thanks for proving my point by posting those tired 4 year old once in a lifetime but still not lean despite the use of every natural diuretic you could get your hands on pics of yours, pansy.
btw kids- take a good look at every pic 'adonis' has posted of his all time best conditioning- thats the problem with diuretics- when you use them and your still too fat your fat they really highlight the amount of adipose you still hold abdominally, especially around the belly button...
thanks for playing, stud.
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You wasted your time posting all of that. You and the other drug monsters really must feel horrible about achieving nothing Naturally ever.
How does it feel knowing that you are ALL DRUGS and nothing else.
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TA's fight for the naturals continue. I'll have fun and play along though. Assuming this guy is natural, he is small and ripped. Sure, great condition, but this is BODYUILDING. He cannot build much more without drugs. This is a kid who if he puts on a tee shirt and walks around, no one will think he is a bodybuilder. He can look chizzeled at the beach, but hey congrats, I know a bunch of guys I played college ball with who rarely touched weights who can look just as chizzeled with their shirt off.
Natural bodybuilding is nothing more than a test in discipline because the actual "building" stops. As I've said many times, if that's your goal and you are happy with that than great. However, you will always in reality be a guy who trains, diets hard, and steps on stage. Never anything more. You will peak quickly with how much mass you gain and limit yourself and your potential by not taking products. So to all the naturals, I respect you as long as you are honest and realistic. You do it for the love of training and perhaps competition, but you will always be limiting yourself.
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wrong and i will explain in a second
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There is nothing to explain unless you want to look like a complete moron. I have more on Casey Smith if you really want to press the issue.
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You wasted your time posting all of that. You and the other drug monsters really must feel horrible about achieving nothing Naturally ever.
How does it feel knowing that you are ALL DRUGS and nothing else.
you two have the love/hate thing going for while and leaning toward the latter.will be interesting to see new pic's.
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Also TA, I trained 8 years naturally and had a great natural physiue to show for it. So please, don't waste your time bringing the drug monster, jealousy criticisms here.
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You wasted your time posting all of that. You and the other drug monsters really must feel horrible about achieving nothing Naturally ever.
How does it feel knowing that you are ALL DRUGS and nothing else.
Elite fitness openly talking about YOUR drug use till you were banned for acting like an idiot as you now do here.. need I say any more Twiggy ? ;)
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Also, I love how it's always "Naturals get more ripped than juicers" hahaha... Wake up! Bodybuilding is about the combination of Size, Symetry, and Condition. If it was just about who is more ripped than saying this might mean something. However, when we talk about BODYBUILDING, this guy lacks size and last I checked, we haven't had any small Mr. O's.
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TA's fight for the naturals continue. I'll have fun and play along though. Assuming this guy is natural, he is small and ripped. Sure, great condition, but this is BODYUILDING. He cannot build much more without drugs. This is a kid who if he puts on a tee shirt and walks around, no one will think he is a bodybuilder. He can look chizzeled at the beach, but hey congrats, I know a bunch of guys I played college ball with who rarely touched weights who can look just as chizzeled with their shirt off.
Natural bodybuilding is nothing more than a test in discipline because the actual "building" stops. As I've said many times, if that's your goal and you are happy with that than great. However, you will always in reality be a guy who trains, diets hard, and steps on stage. Never anything more. You will peak quickly with how much mass you gain and limit yourself and your potential by not taking products. So to all the naturals, I respect you as long as you are honest and realistic. You do it for the love of training and perhaps competition, but you will always be limiting yourself.
1. He looks like a bodybuilder with a shirt on. Small, but nobody would ever accuse him of not lifting weights. Also, the size of the shirt matters. In a wigger shirt XXXXXXL he won`t look like anything as most people won`t, but a tight medium would have the general public thinking he is Mr. Olympia.
2. You didn`t play with anyone or know anyone that looks like that who "has never touched a weight". By that rationale, if you posted their supposed pictures, most on here would think your basketball buddies were on Steroids. (they probably would think so regardless because they are stupid individuals). Please post pictures of these people. You won`t, because they DO NO EXIST.
3. I have gained VERY little over time, yet I am completely fine with that. I am not against anyone using drugs at all. I believe that is up to the individual and I do think as one ages there is a definite need for them as Testosterone Replacement is a good thing to prolong human life as well as making it a more healthy one. That does not need to introduced until much later in people I think. Late 40s-Early 50s.
4. I love to train and Lifetime Naturals have to train MORE and HARDER than juicers to get any result. Juicers have it WAY WAY WAY easier.
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BigHer , I dont think it is the size its how the muscle looks - as No One pointed out , look at his shoulders a natty when dieted down loses delt fullness and pop. When in off season - but not fat they can have big delts but in shredded condition they disappear
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Elite fitness openly talking about YOUR drug use till you were banned for acting like an idiot as you now do here.. need I say any more Twiggy ? ;)
Yah thats likely. ::) I think someone also said I used to bench 500 lbs and swear there was a post with a picture of me benching 500 lbs on there. You morons will make up anything and its downright amusing.
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You wasted your time posting all of that. You and the other drug monsters really must feel horrible about achieving nothing Naturally ever.
How does it feel knowing that you are ALL DRUGS and nothing else.
i feel pretty good about it.
just like i feel pretty good about hitting trim you can only dream of, stickman, and living a life you wish you could be lucky enough to experience 1 year of.
instead the highlights of your life are having missionary sex with your mom, and cruising bb forums to look at videos of shirtless guys.
nice work, stud.
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BigHer , I dont think it is the size its how the muscle looks - as No One pointed out , look at his shoulders a natty when dieted down loses delt fullness and pop. When in off season - but not fat they can have big delts but in shredded condition they disappear
No they don`t at all.
Life Time Natural Phoun, nearly 40 if not 40s years of age. Also known as Mr. Getbig, Whateva. I hope this helps.
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but a tight medium would have the general public thinking he is Mr. Olympia.
quoted for the most stupid thing you have ever said
well done, dildo.
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I hope this helps morons.
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Ok 5'11 155 6%.
Is being in a continuous state of delusion a high for you?
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Yah thats likely. ::) I think someone also said I used to bench 500 lbs and swear there was a post with a picture of me benching 500 lbs on there. You morons will make up anything and its downright amusing.
hahaha I never have read the bench bullshit - you did used to love A bombs though :D
So why when Jason Armstrong exposed you on here with in a day that guy(you) had gone onto Elite and deleted all his posts ? :D
You are a liar and full of shit - "its that easy" :D
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alright i will give here my observation of this fella,,
upon! intitial look you want to say he is natural as you look in brief second and you say what the fuck i give him natural he is tiny mini,, but! this is not the case friends
this fella has LOTS of quality size ,,eh is developed equaly all over,, his traps are big ,,his delts are big! ,, all 3 dimentional look ,, tiny mini look but 3 dimentional look!
this has nothign to do with bodyfat for the 3 dimentional because even to begin with he ws not high bodyfat,, he has the abs dialed in he hold tons of water and some fat to begin with but its no where near high bodyfat,,
this fella method of thinking is lik emost natural in this stage that lie...if you cant beat them on size! beat them on condition! do whatever it take to get in the condition needed to beat them! that include hormones! inorder to get to that condition ,,
he decided to do a mini mutation where quality will rule over quantity ,, cycle for the poor as gh15 call it,, he thought in the way most natural think...i will be the bestest 160 around no matter what it takes since i cant afford lots of hormones and lots of hgh i will do the mini gh15 mutation
and! sucesfuly he did so!
THIS PHYSIQE HAS IN IT HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE! YOU HEAR IT RIGHT,, IT HAS IN IT LOW DOSES ANDROGENS AND HIGHER DOSES ANABOLICS,, THE PROPIONETSA IS KEPT TO LOW LOW LOW EVEN COMPLETLY ELIMINATED BEFORE COMPETITION WHAT HE WORK WITH MAINLY IS FEW TABLETS OF ANABOLICS ,, TRENBOLONA ACE TO SOME DEGREE ,,MASTERONA TO SOME DEGREE IN A COMBO VIALS LOWER DOSES! AND OFCOURSE THE MOST INFAMOUS HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO CREATE WHAT HE DID !,,
why didnt he put on size on scale? because he didnt want it! he dieted down for competition weight,, you either grow to compete aka kevin on abusing hgh or you down grade your weight and use lower doses gh ,, he chose the second method and this is in most liklihod for financial reasons and ofcourse because he want to do natural show and be the best among the worst than be the worst among the best or place 4rth in some no where to be found npc show
his weight on stage is 162lb 5'9 this is like 169lb 5'10 fella,, with the condition presented before me as in bodyfat that is at the 4-5% you can nto and will never! achieve it naturaly as in truly naturaly
his usage of designers was there but it was not what cause the high level condition while bodyfat drop to sub 5% and legs bodyfat is at 6% which is never the cae with true naturals,,halodrol did not cause it and fat burner did not cause it,, fat burner will put you at the 6% mark 8% legs for truly natural fella,, anything under that and you wil be erased into nowhereness of the 150s and 140s with flattening effect on the muscle,,
this fella muscles has volume and water push from the inside ,, it is as a rsult of usage of very good hgh from china,,low dose,, and the other aas i mentioned
this fella should be considered a liar! he should be ashamed of himself if he promote himself as true natural ,, and yes upon intitial look it is close but only! only! due to the number presented beforee me which is 169lb 5'10....this is natural number but ONLY !! at higher bodyfat of 6-7% this fella bring lower bodyfat and 3 dimentional volumized condition ,, not flat 2 dimentional one,, no natural diet no sodium upload ,, no carb in the world will do this to natural physiqe ,, natural physiqe dont pop ,, they usualoy pop to some degree 2 weeks out of compeittion but at 6% not 4 or 5% and their legs are not sharp they lack detail in legs ,,their back is also not as dry as his ,, he also may use diuretic i cant tell but it points to it from the over all approach he take,,
this fella tend to be water bloat ,, you cant fight estrogen naturaly if you tend to have ti and this fella has estogen writen all over him and you can tlel it from first picture,,
this can not be done truely naturaly ,, it is close indeed in the numbers! but not in the look ! ,,
this is a scambag
gh15 approveed
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William Powell
Here is another mid 40s nearly 50 year old Lifetime Natural that I know Personally that PWNS Juicers and beats them nearly every time in NC Competitions. He usually wins the overall in any show he competes in.
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www.nogearfitness.com
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silicone souls drifting on waffles of sion
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He has KILLED and PWNED many Heavy Juicers. I love it.
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BigHer , I dont think it is the size its how the muscle looks - as No One pointed out , look at his shoulders a natty when dieted down loses delt fullness and pop. When in off season - but not fat they can have big delts but in shredded condition they disappear
I agree Will... I was playing along under the premise of this guy being natural. You are correct though sir as you often are I have found.
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alright i will give here my observation of this fella,,
upon! intitial look you want to say he is natural as you look in brief second and you say what the fuck i give him natural he is tiny mini,, but! this is not the case friends
this fella has LOTS of quality size ,,eh is developed equaly all over,, his traps are big ,,his delts are big! ,, all 3 dimentional look ,, tiny mini look but 3 dimentional look!
this has nothign to do with bodyfat for the 3 dimentional because even to begin with he ws not high bodyfat,, he has the abs dialed in he hold tons of water and some fat to begin with but its no where near high bodyfat,,
this fella method of thinking is lik emost natural in this stage that lie...if you cant beat them on size! beat them on condition! do whatever it take to get in the condition needed to beat them! that include hormones! inorder to get to that condition ,,
he decided to do a mini mutation where quality will rule over quantity ,, cycle for the poor as gh15 call it,, he thought in the way most natural think...i will be the bestest 160 around no matter what it takes since i cant afford lots of hormones and lots of hgh i will do the mini gh15 mutation
and! sucesfuly he did so!
THIS PHYSIQE HAS IN IT HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE! YOU HEAR IT RIGHT,, IT HAS IN IT LOW DOSES ANDROGENS AND HIGHER DOSES ANABOLICS,, THE PROPIONETSA IS KEPT TO LOW LOW LOW EVEN COMPLETLY ELIMINATED BEFORE COMPETITION WHAT HE WORK WITH MAINLY IS FEW TABLETS OF ANABOLICS ,, TRENBOLONA ACE TO SOME DEGREE ,,MASTERONA TO SOME DEGREE IN A COMBO VIALS LOWER DOSES! AND OFCOURSE THE MOST INFAMOUS HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO CREATE WHAT HE DID !,,
why didnt he put on size on scale? because he didnt want it! he dieted down for competition weight,, you either grow to compete aka kevin on abusing hgh or you down grade your weight and use lower doses gh ,, he chose the second method and this is in most liklihod for financial reasons and ofcourse because he want to do natural show and be the best among the worst than be the worst among the best or place 4rth in some no where to be found npc show
his weight on stage is 162lb 5'9 this is like 169lb 5'10 fella,, with the condition presented before me as in bodyfat that is at the 4-5% you can nto and will never! achieve it naturaly as in truly naturaly
his usage of designers was there but it was not what cause the high level condition while bodyfat drop to sub 5% and legs bodyfat is at 6% which is never the cae with true naturals,,halodrol did not cause it and fat burner did not cause it,, fat burner will put you at the 6% mark 8% legs for truly natural fella,, anything under that and you wil be erased into nowhereness of the 150s and 140s with flattening effect on the muscle,,
this fella muscles has volume and water push from the inside ,, it is as a rsult of usage of very good hgh from china,,low dose,, and the other aas i mentioned
this fella should be considered a liar! he should be ashamed of himself if he promote himself as true natural ,, and yes upon intitial look it is close but only! only! due to the number presented beforee me which is 169lb 5'10....this is natural number but ONLY !! at higher bodyfat of 6-7% this fella bring lower bodyfat and 3 dimentional volumized condition ,, not flat 2 dimentional one,, no natural diet no sodium upload ,, no carb in the world will do this to natural physiqe ,, natural physiqe dont pop ,, they usualoy pop to some degree 2 weeks out of compeittion but at 6% not 4 or 5% and their legs are not sharp they lack detail in legs ,,their back is also not as dry as his ,, he also may use diuretic i cant tell but it points to it from the over all approach he take,,
this fella tend to be water bloat ,, you cant fight estrogen naturaly if you tend to have ti and this fella has estogen writen all over him and you can tlel it from first picture,,
this can not be done truely naturaly ,, it is close indeed in the numbers! but not in the look ! ,,
this is a scambag
gh15 approveed
That was a waste of time. Every show he has entered has been drug tested also.
Furthermore, he is far from the most ripped Lifetime Natural.
Brian Whitacre is much more ripped and he is also Lifetime Natural. Phoun as well.
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I agree Will... I was playing along under the premise of this guy being natural. You are correct though sir as you often are I have found.
Incorrect and he is incorrect on a multitude of things. I hope this helps.
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That was a waste of time. Every show he has entered has been drug tested also.
Furthermore, he is far from the most ripped Lifetime Natural.
Brian Whitacre is much more ripped and he is also Lifetime Natural. Phoun as well.
i dont knwo or care about the natural organization but i showed you here what true natual look like before,, look for it,, this fella is far from it ,, it is close on scale yes but far in condition ,, a true natural that done some halodrol and fat burners will be about same weight but! about 2% more bodyfat on him
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adonis you are a drug pig
you discussed your drug use on several sites. jewish nazi. onion of jerusalem.
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Lucky to be born with genetics to be naturally ripped. Probably looks like nothing in clothes and with a shirt off boom
exactly, it's called being an extreme ectomorph and having a vascularity that is genetically inherited. Now im sure he masters his diets and training, that he s very dedicaced and consistant but seriously, to tell everyone they can look like that just doing what he does is pure ignorance and immaturity, it's pushing it way too far. It's genetical, period.
On a side note i wonder if true anus spends a lot of time searching for these kind of vids of barely clothed young males flexing their muscles and all...
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1. He looks like a bodybuilder with a shirt on. Small, but nobody would ever accuse him of not lifting weights. Also, the size of the shirt matters. In a wigger shirt XXXXXXL he won`t look like anything as most people won`t, but a tight medium would have the general public thinking he is Mr. Olympia.
2. You didn`t play with anyone or know anyone that looks like that who "has never touched a weight". By that rationale, if you posted their supposed pictures, most on here would think your basketball buddies were on Steroids. (they probably would think so regardless because they are stupid individuals). Please post pictures of these people. You won`t, because they DO NO EXIST.
3. I have gained VERY little over time, yet I am completely fine with that. I am not against anyone using drugs at all. I believe that is up to the individual and I do think as one ages there is a definite need for them as Testosterone Replacement is a good thing to prolong human life as well as making it a more healthy one. That does not need to introduced until much later in people I think. Late 40s-Early 50s.
4. I love to train and Lifetime Naturals have to train MORE and HARDER than juicers to get any result. Juicers have it WAY WAY WAY easier.
1) Most bodybuilders can't fit in a medium shirt. I actually haven't been able to wear a medium shirt since middle school lol and long before bodybuilding. However, when this kid is dieted down, in an appropriate lfitting shirt he disappears and yes, people won't know he works out. When you see top bodybuilders in Hoodies, you know they're fucking big, and not fat big, but big as in muscular.
2) I'll still stand by what some of my basketball buddies look like. My one friend is playing pro in Puerto Rico right now. He never lifted. However he has plenty of years of various types of cross training under his belt that has given him a real solid natural base. I bet if he stuck to a strict bodybuilding diet, yes he would be ripped like that. Small and ripped isn't that hard to achieve with some discipline.
3) I'm happy you are content with what you have accomplished. That's awesome and I respect that.
4) I agree that juicers don't have to train as hard, but that doesn't mean all juicers do not. I puked twice after my leg workout tonight and although I use drugs, no one who has seen me in the gym or trained with me has ever accused me of being lazy. Remember, all the best Mr. O's trained hard. See Ronnie, Dorian, Haney, and Arnold.
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exactly, it's called being an extreme ectomorph and having a vascularity that is genetically inherited. Now im sure he masters his diets and training, that he s very dedicaced and consistant but seriously, to tell everyone they can look like just doing what he does is pure ignorance and immaturity. It's genetical, period.
On a side note i wonder if true anus spends a lot of time searching and watching for these kind of vids of barely clothed young males flexing their muscles and all...
I guess you missed this picture there, Jesus Freak. ::)
So much for the "Ectomorph hypothesis".
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TA, are you one of these folks that believe everyone who claims natural is natural and that everyone who competes in a tested show must be natural because it is indeed tested? Do you also believe that because you know someone personaly that you know everything they do behind closed doors??
I think you post some really intelligent things sometimes, but please don't tell me you are that ignorant?
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1) Most bodybuilders can't fit in a medium shirt. I actually haven't been able to wear a medium shirt since middle school lol and long before bodybuilding. However, when this kid is dieted down, in an appropriate lfitting shirt he disappears and yes, people won't know he works out. When you see top bodybuilders in Hoodies, you know they're fucking big, and not fat big, but big as in muscular.
2) I'll still stand by what some of my basketball buddies look like. My one friend is playing pro in Puerto Rico right now. He never lifted. However he has plenty of years of various types of cross training under his belt that has given him a real solid natural base. I bet if he stuck to a strict bodybuilding diet, yes he would be ripped like that. Small and ripped isn't that hard to achieve with some discipline.
3) I'm happy you are content with what you have accomplished. That's awesome and I respect that.
4) I agree that juicers don't have to train as hard, but that doesn't mean all juicers do not. I puked twice after my leg workout tonight and although I use drugs, no one who has seen me in the gym or trained with me has ever accused me of being lazy. Remember, all the best Mr. O's trained hard. See Ronnie, Dorian, Haney, and Arnold.
1) Bodybuilders around 185-150 lbs and of decent height can easily fit into a Medium, especially with today`s clothes being made bigger and bigger despite what the tag says. 30-50 years ago, a Large would be considered a small medium today. I have a collection of Vintage Leather Jackets and clothes and this is precisely the case.
Even when I was an obese 240 lbs, I could fit into a Medium. Tight, but I could fit. Ask Big Ach about being 240 lbs and wearing Mediums, he can tell you all about it. He can even wear a Medium when he diets down to 160-170.
I think if most people saw Casey Smith in a tight fitting Medium shirt like this one, its obvious that he trains.
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2) You are bullshitting about your basketball friends. Post a picture please.
3) Dexter Jackson does not train hard and Jay Cutler`s training is a joke.
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TA, are you one of these folks that believe everyone who claims natural is natural and that everyone who competes in a tested show must be natural because it is indeed tested? Do you also believe that because you know someone personaly that you know everything they do behind closed doors??
I think you post some really intelligent things sometimes, but please don't tell me you are that ignorant?
By that Rationale we must conclude that Obama is on a 1000 Gram GH Cycle with 400 Grams of Winstrol. You know, since we can`t follow the President around on a daily basis and see what he does in his spare time in the War Room or the Oval Office.
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Polygraph/Urine Test: As it stated in the entry form, the polygraph and urine testing was random, and I was a bit disappointed I was not chosen to do it. I wanted to see what it was like! lol There were two guys that left the registration room talking about how they were getting pulled to the polygraph room. I wish that they would make it mandatory like organizations like the NANBF, IFPA, INBF, etc. rather than randomly selecting people. Since I plan on competing in the NANBF for future contests, I guess I'll get my polygraph experience then.
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this thread is full of Humalog addicts ;D
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yet another thread cementing true anus' legacy as getbigs resident know it all / laughing stock / broomstick with broken dreams.
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1) Most bodybuilders can't fit in a medium shirt. I actually haven't been able to wear a medium shirt since middle school lol and long before bodybuilding. However, when this kid is dieted down, in an appropriate lfitting shirt he disappears and yes, people won't know he works out. When you see top bodybuilders in Hoodies, you know they're fucking big, and not fat big, but big as in muscular.
2) I'll still stand by what some of my basketball buddies look like. My one friend is playing pro in Puerto Rico right now. He never lifted. However he has plenty of years of various types of cross training under his belt that has given him a real solid natural base. I bet if he stuck to a strict bodybuilding diet, yes he would be ripped like that. Small and ripped isn't that hard to achieve with some discipline.
3) I'm happy you are content with what you have accomplished. That's awesome and I respect that.
4) I agree that juicers don't have to train as hard, but that doesn't mean all juicers do not. I puked twice after my leg workout tonight and although I use drugs, no one who has seen me in the gym or trained with me has ever accused me of being lazy. Remember, all the best Mr. O's trained hard. See Ronnie, Dorian, Haney, and Arnold.
There is NO Difference between a Pro Bodybuilder in a Hoodie than an OBESE FAT MAN. NONE. THEY ALL LOOK OBESE.
I garauntee you EVERYONE at that IHOP thought this was just some Fat, Obese Black man. Little did they know he just won a Bodybuilding Contest.
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yet another thread cementing true anus' legacy as getbigs resident know it all / laughing stock / broomstick with broken dreams.
It feels good PWNING you and the others so badly. Its too easy to do. By the way, how do you like living in your shit hole one-bedroom apartment you broke bastard. ;)
I warned GH15 about you. Only time will tell if he wisens up and lets you go. You are trouble and I wouldn`t be shocked if you found your way inside a jail cell, sooner rather than later. You know, make another appearance there. :D
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BIGHer,
2 things. Can you post a picture of yourself as a Natural and can you post the picture of your basketball friend who never touched a weight but looks like a competitive Natural Bodybuilder.
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That level of chest development cannot be achieved naturally
seriously have any of you EVER worked out with, or had friends who train naturally?- i mean, completely naturally?
i can think of two guys i used to do track with who were this lean...and thats before they even did weights.
They started at the gym and build lumpy, very lean physiques. Not quite as cut as this guy, but hey, they didnt really even diet..just young, active, naturally lean guys.
none of them touched anything..ever...period. ..never did, never have, never will.
i swear most GB members must hang with drug cartels or pin cushions cos you think anything good isnt attainable without gear.
All hail your king, the great GH15...he has brainwashed you pathetic losers.
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It feels good PWNING you and the others so badly. Its too easy to do. By the way, how do you like living in your shit hole one-bedroom apartment you broke bastard. ;)
I warned GH15 about you. Only time will tell if he wisens up and lets you go. You are trouble and I wouldn`t be shocked if you found your way inside a jail cell, sooner rather than later. You know, make another appearance there. :D
ahahahahaha why don't you call LE and tell them 'no one' from the Internet uses steroids.
god your such a smarmy little fagg0t. lol
your girl must be so proud to have such a 'man'. there's prolly someone out there making her very happy, cause having you mount her 3 times a month in between baking pies can't be to thrilling.
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ahahahahaha why don't you call LE and tell them 'no one' from the Internet uses steroids.
god your such a smarmy little fagg0t. lol
your girl must be so proud to have such a 'man'. there's prolly someone out there making her very happy, cause having you mount her 3 times a month in between baking pies can't be to thrilling.
Funny you should say that....2 Chocolate Chip, Pecan Pumpkin Loaves just went into the oven, hence why I took a short break from posting just now.
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What cycle?
Motorcycle?
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Funny you should say that....2 Chocolate Chip, Pecan Pumpkin Loaves just went into the oven, hence why I took a short break from posting just now.
LOL ;D
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There is NO Difference between a Pro Bodybuilder in a Hoodie than an OBESE FAT MAN. NONE. THEY ALL LOOK OBESE.
I garauntee you EVERYONE at that IHOP thought this was just some Fat, Obese Black man. Little did they know he just won a Bodybuilding Contest.
This is silly... people may not know Kai had just won a bodybuilding contest her, but be serious... Have you ever been around Kai? Have you ever met him in person? I have on a few occassions now and trust me when I say, no one thinks he is a fat, obese black man. lol
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1) Bodybuilders around 185-150 lbs and of decent height can easily fit into a Medium, especially with today`s clothes being made bigger and bigger despite what the tag says. 30-50 years ago, a Large would be considered a small medium today. I have a collection of Vintage Leather Jackets and clothes and this is precisely the case.
Even when I was an obese 240 lbs, I could fit into a Medium. Tight, but I could fit. Ask Big Ach about being 240 lbs and wearing Mediums, he can tell you all about it. He can even wear a Medium when he diets down to 160-170.
I think if most people saw Casey Smith in a tight fitting Medium shirt like this one, its obvious that he trains.
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2) You are bullshitting about your basketball friends. Post a picture please.
3) Dexter Jackson does not train hard and Jay Cutler`s training is a joke.
1) I didn't say people couldn't wear mediums lol. I just said they don't appropriately fit lol.
2) Yes, when this kid is flexing in a tee people probably think he hits the gym from time to time, but no when he is just walking around.
3) Dexter, maybe, but Jay? Have you seen Jay's training in his younger years?? He just switched it up as he got older to refine muscle because he knew he was maxed. You're a natural and you aren't getting much bigger if at all. I assure you that you don't need to train as hard to maintain that size, but instead just train consistantly. Also, in every group of BBer's there are some lazier than others. Naturals too. You were saying all naturals train harder than all juicers and that's just not so.
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By that Rationale we must conclude that Obama is on a 1000 Gram GH Cycle with 400 Grams of Winstrol. You know, since we can`t follow the President around on a daily basis and see what he does in his spare time in the War Room or the Oval Office.
You're just being ridiculous here. I'm actually pointing out something to you about the bodybuilding world that gets you upset beause you have to acknoweledge that some of these people who claim natural are indeed not so. Ignorance is sad.
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BIGHer,
2 things. Can you post a picture of yourself as a Natural and can you post the picture of your basketball friend who never touched a weight but looks like a competitive Natural Bodybuilder.
TA,
Just cuz you asked for it buddy! Here is my pic @ age 19 or 20... 2 or 3 years before going on the sauce. Was still playing hoops and weight training hard. Didn't eat like a bodybuilder, never took a pro-hormone (the naturals favorite because they have excuses for drugs stronger than dbol haha), and just some protein post workout. This is what a true 100% natural looks like. I wouldn't nearly call this my peak, but this is all I could find for you as I deactivated my facebook 2 months ago and didn't want to go back on just to search through photos. Also, I'm not going to post pics of my friend. You can call BS on me saying that if you choose, but he plays ball professionaly and I'm not going to go back on facebook and start looking through his page just to find shirtless pics lol. He is also 100% natural though and not a bodybuilder. He is small and ripped like naturals. No such thing as a big natural. Anyway, here you go Getbig.... Oh, post some intelligent things about this too if you are going to, don't try to be an idiot and tell me I could have had 20-30 lbs more muscle naturally ::) ::) ::) ::)
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i believe he is natural
with that being said he probably has a boring life
With all due respect to TA but most natural guys I know live a dreadful life that borders on OCD and finding out which Natural Peanut Butter has more Omega 3's
at least guys on the gas have fun and go out and drink and bang disgusting bitches
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Problem is is that most bb'er and dudes that lift are under the impression that they have to gorge all the time to put on size. Then, after awhile, they do get big.. but fat too.. and definition becomes lost. They then see a cut/ripped guy and see all the muscle that shows, and claim steroids.
I bet half of you, if you lost weight and ripped up, would be flabberghasted at the difference.
To me there is no reason to NOT believe the natural claims.
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Problem is is that most bb'er and dudes that lift are under the impression that they have to gorge all the time to put on size. Then, after awhile, they do get big.. but fat too.. and definition becomes lost. They then see a cut/ripped guy and see all the muscle that shows, and claim steroids.
I bet half of you, if you lost weight and ripped up, would be flabberghasted at the difference.
To me there is no reason to NOT believe the natural claims.
I agree with this post for the most part.
When I`m leaning out,bigger guys at my gym tell me I look good but am just too small.....no problem,but if they were to attempt to attain the same bf% as me,little do they realize that some/most of them would have to lose between 60-100 pounds depending on the permabulker in question.
These guys are just lifters,most are big strong guys who probably haven`t seen their dicks in years.
Big is cool,but you can`t flex fat!!
Lots of people have lost sight as to why they joined the gym in the first place,which would most likely be "to look better and to get in shape" but they just got bigger and fatter,albeit a lot stronger.
Also,I`m usualluy as strong as them on a pound for pound basis regardless of age and sometimes stronger even though outweighed by 40-50 pounds.
Fucking permabulking fucks.............good dudes though!! LOL ;D
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Agreed Wes.
When i bulk, I go as heavy at 240 (and look & feel like shit). I look thick, but not muscular per se. When I cut, I go down to about 195 and look big and, most importantly, ripped.
When 240: "how much do you bench?"
When 195: "what are you on?" "you look jacked!? etc.
It's all an illusion.
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Agreed Wes.
When i bulk, I go as heavy at 240 (and look & feel like shit). I look thick, but not muscular per se. When I cut, I go down to about 195 and look big and, most importantly, ripped.
When 240: "how much do you bench?"
When 195: "what are you on?" "you look jacked!? etc.
It's all an illusion.
I hear ya` brother! :)
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I don't want to get involved in the discussion regarding if X is natural or not.
But it's a myth that you have to be totally obsessed with bodybuilding in order to get results as a natural (however limited or not they will be).
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jesus guys and gh15.. the guy is 160lbs and on all you can eat gh buffet,test,tren,mast lollllllllllll give me a break this gym rat is simply abusing PH or winstrol or anavar and very low calories, enough proteins, with clen, t3 maybe, just maybe!
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i believe he is natural
with that being said he probably has a boring life
With all due respect to TA but most natural guys I know live a dreadful life that borders on OCD and finding out which Natural Peanut Butter has more Omega 3's
at least guys on the gas have fun and go out and drink and bang disgusting bitches
It doesn't have to be that way. You can lift 3-4 days per week ( approx 3-6 hours of training time) and eat 3-4 meals per day and reach your natural limit. You don't have to be obsessed and think about bodybuilding 24/7. Just be consistent and make sure bodybuilding doesn't rule your life. If you are OCD you will just burn out in a few years time.
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It doesn't have to be that way. You can lift 3-4 days per week ( approx 3-6 hours of training time) and eat 3-4 meals per day and reach your natural limit. You don't have to be obsessed and think about bodybuilding 24/7. Just be consistent and make sure bodybuilding doesn't rule your life. If you are OCD you will just burn out in a few years time.
I agree that I doesn't have to be the way I described.
However, most guys I know who compete and are "Natural" live the most boring fucking lives
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jesus guys and gh15.. the guy is 160lbs and on all you can eat gh buffet,test,tren,mast lollllllllllll give me a break this gym rat is simply abusing PH or winstrol or anavar and very low calories, enough proteins, with clen, t3 maybe, just maybe!
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TA,
Just cuz you asked for it buddy! Here is my pic @ age 19 or 20... 2 or 3 years before going on the sauce. Was still playing hoops and weight training hard. Didn't eat like a bodybuilder, never took a pro-hormone (the naturals favorite because they have excuses for drugs stronger than dbol haha), and just some protein post workout. This is what a true 100% natural looks like. I wouldn't nearly call this my peak, but this is all I could find for you as I deactivated my facebook 2 months ago and didn't want to go back on just to search through photos. Also, I'm not going to post pics of my friend. You can call BS on me saying that if you choose, but he plays ball professionaly and I'm not going to go back on facebook and start looking through his page just to find shirtless pics lol. He is also 100% natural though and not a bodybuilder. He is small and ripped like naturals. No such thing as a big natural. Anyway, here you go Getbig.... Oh, post some intelligent things about this too if you are going to, don't try to be an idiot and tell me I could have had 20-30 lbs more muscle naturally ::) ::) ::) ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=400794.0;attach=439594;image)
Bullshit. You can`t have shoulders that bulge out like that and be Natural. Your abs can`t look like that Naturally. Your chest is too big for a Natural. All Drugs.
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jesus guys and gh15.. the guy is 160lbs and on all you can eat gh buffet,test,tren,mast lollllllllllll give me a break this gym rat is simply abusing PH or winstrol or anavar and very low calories, enough proteins, with clen, t3 maybe, just maybe!
nonono,, i never said all you can eat hormonal buffet,, not what i said! read posting again,, he has too much quality muscle that is sculpted and polished and FULL ,, he is thick in the right places while showing fitness model quality in the waist and obliqes where needeed,, he has the hormonal mini 3 dimentional shredded to the 10th degree yet not flat look to him that can not be achieved with only diet,, ,, this condition truly natural = 150-154lb on that same fella...he is 162 right? those 8-10 lb are a result of hormones
gh15 approved
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nonono,, i never said all you can eat hormonal buffet,, not what i said! read posting again,, he has too much quality muscle that is sculpted and polished and FULL ,, he is thick in the right places while showing fitness model quality in the waist and obliqes where needeed,, he has the hormonal mini 3 dimentional shredded to the 10th degree yet not flat look to him that can not be achieved with only diet,, ,, this condition truly natural = 150-154lb on that same fella...he is 162 right? those 8-10 lb are a result of hormones
gh15 approved
Tho' I'd say it's not necessary to use gh to look like that. He may or may've not used some of it, but I know a few people who achieved a very very similar look and they are close height/weight wise, but with just winnie and some prop (some mast too, at least one of them) + very very strict diet (to a point of madness, when they walked barely alive after a good month or so. No cardio really, just a chicken breast and a fukkin cucumber day after day..).
But he is NOT clean, that is for sure.
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Tho' I'd say it's not necessary to use gh to look like that. He may or may've not used some of it, but I know a few people who achieved a very very similar look and they are close height/weight wise, but with just winnie and some prop (some mast too, at least one of them) + very very strict diet (to a point of madness, when they walked barely alive after a good month or so. No cardio really, just a chicken breast and a fukkin cucumber day after day..).
But he is NOT clean, that is for sure.
You must have had the worst chance for developing any kind of muscle if you actually believe your own bullshit. I guess it must be true that the majority here are incapable of anything.
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You must have had the worst chance for developing any kind of muscle if you actually believe your own bullshit. I guess it must be true that the majority here are incapable of anything.
You put this fella as a lifetime natural (and you do actually believe that, or at least - pretend to) so I don't have much to say to you.. really, I think some ppl in this sport have very very deep issues in the head.
(http://www.thenaturalmusclenetwork.com/ifpa/Contests/2010/IFPA082810IA/William-Powell.jpg)
This middle aged man^^ without a constant flow of various magic substances in his blood would look like a pile of shit, a huge pile of shit and nothing more. It's not even funny.
I don't know his height or weight, but if I'd guess I'd say he's a pretty short fella (so not a "genetic marvel" like some "naturals" like to present themselves) and if he could pull something similar to this look while in his 20's (on a bunch of stuff too obviously), he'd crash so bad after 40's he wouldn't even resemble anything like this picture. He could be vatery and somewhat "athletic", he could be very small and frail looking BUT in condition, but no way in hell he'd be reasonably jacked and ripped like that.
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You put this fella as a lifetime natural (and you do actually believe that, or at least - pretend to) so I don't have much to say to you.. really, I think some ppl in this sport have very very deep issues in the head.
(http://www.thenaturalmusclenetwork.com/ifpa/Contests/2010/IFPA082810IA/William-Powell.jpg)
I know him personally and have worked out at his gym.
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I know him personally and have worked out at his gym.
So either he's mentally ill fella who lies even to people he "knows personally", or you are both mentally unstable liars. Choose.
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I know him personally and have worked out at his gym.
Do you live with him as well and do you watch over him every time he takes a shower, takes a shit or changes clothes ::)
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Do you live with him as well and do you watch over him every time he takes a shower, takes a shit or changes clothes ::)
I guess Obama is on a Mega-Cycle of Trentosterone since we can`t be in the Oval Office.
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I guess Obama is on a Mega-Cycle of Trentosterone since we can`t be in the Oval Office.
Dude you are a fucking idiot that's all that needs saying
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I know him personally and have worked out at his gym.
then I guess he must truly be natural.
like he told you so. and you know him personally.
well, good enough for me!
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god your stupid. lol
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I guess Obama is on a Mega-Cycle of Trentosterone since we can`t be in the Oval Office.
Well then I guess we can assume that all the athletes that test clean in all the past Olympic events are lifetime naturals, right?
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Well then I guess we can assume that all the athletes that test clean in all the past Olympic events are lifetime naturals, right?
I heard Condaleeza Rice was on Trentosterone. You can tell because of her delts when she went to Cameroon in 2002.
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I know him personally and have worked out at his gym.
Solid proof right there, nothing much we can say to argue that
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i sometimes wonder if anyone here actually trained naturally before hitting the gear. the first physique could be achieved with a shit load of training and a great diet....
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You put this fella as a lifetime natural (and you do actually believe that, or at least - pretend to) so I don't have much to say to you.. really, I think some ppl in this sport have very very deep issues in the head.
(http://www.thenaturalmusclenetwork.com/ifpa/Contests/2010/IFPA082810IA/William-Powell.jpg)
This middle aged man^^ without a constant flow of various magic substances in his blood would look like a pile of shit, a huge pile of shit and nothing more. It's not even funny.
I don't know his height or weight, but if I'd guess I'd say he's a pretty short fella (so not a "genetic marvel" like some "naturals" like to present themselves) and if he could pull something similar to this look while in his 20's (on a bunch of stuff too obviously), he'd crash so bad after 40's he wouldn't even resemble anything like this picture. He could be vatery and somewhat "athletic", he could be very small and frail looking BUT in condition, but no way in hell he'd be reasonably jacked and ripped like that.
very good,, in most cases those are the most serious users...they really do not abuse but they use for so many years and always have the same doses who never get them anywherre and it usualy always financial reason why they stuck in the natural balonie they are at,, they just dont have enough money to buy lots of gh
but you are right this middle aged fella, if he is middle aged because the trenbolona is going strong in his blood...but this fella is really the epitom example of why natural bodybuild should never exsist,, it is realy a curse in the face of true naturals,, because! THERE ARE TRUE NATURALS OUT THERE THAT EAT SHIT BECAUSE OF FELLAS SUCH AS THE FAKE NATURALS,,and thos true naturals end up quiting bodybuild due to the fake naturals lies
gh15 approved
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I know him personally and have worked out at his gym.
Slow down soldier. You were winning the battle until this miss-fire.
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I heard Condaleeza Rice was on Trentosterone. You can tell because of her delts when she went to Cameroon in 2002.
Completely irrelevant. Earlier in the thread you said "tested multiple times, lifetime natural", so from that I can infer that all Olympic athletes that have tested negative in their lifetime of competing are lifetime naturals.
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Completely irrelevant. Earlier in the thread you said "tested multiple times, lifetime natural", so from that I can infer that all Olympic athletes that have tested negative in their lifetime of competing are lifetime naturals.
Totally Irrelevant. Bush 42`s entire cabinet was juiced to the gills and ready to compete at a moments notice.
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Totally Irrelevant. Bush 42`s entire cabinet was juiced to the gills and ready to compete at a moments notice.
I know them personnally and they swore to me they were naturals
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Solid proof right there, nothing much we can say to argue that
I know them personnally and they swore to me they were naturals
LOL!
its funny how his 'logic' when reversed makes him look like such a fucking idiot.
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I know them personnally and they swore to me they were naturals
Doubtful. Dick Cheney doesn`t have an off-season and post September 11th, he really had to take it up a notch and you can tell in some of the pictures from the 02 Summit at Camp David that he either upped the dose on the Tren or Increased the Winstrol.
Either way, not Natural.
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LOL!
its funny how his 'logic' when reversed makes him look like such a fucking idiot.
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I think you have it completely backwards there, simpleton. You have the intellect of an inch worm, but I don`t expect you to show it in every post. Please try harder to not be so moronic.
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He's on oral testosterone derived from male seamen.
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Lifetime Natural.
As always, a Lifetime Natural can easily best a steroid user in terms of lean ness. How many times do I have to say this to you morons?
Because Adam, that which is attained by others but has not been, nor able to be obtained, by some here is best explained by the easiest scape goat there is...."he is on drugs"
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BUT! i know better not only bc i read the words of gh15 but because i was natural for 10 years straight lifting weights hardcore to the bone balls to the wall never miss a workout eating cleaner than anyone on this board guaranteed. and my physic could never touch this guy's and he's only lifted for three years! lol
so don't be so naive
Bullshit....you can't guarantee that....I competed natural/drug free for nearly20yrs (last 3 as WNBF pro). You failed at matching this condition because you failed at putting the mental effort in when prep mattered....GUARANTEED
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alright i will give here my observation of this fella,,
upon! intitial look you want to say he is natural as you look in brief second and you say what the fuck i give him natural he is tiny mini,, but! this is not the case friends
this fella has LOTS of quality size ,,eh is developed equaly all over,, his traps are big ,,his delts are big! ,, all 3 dimentional look ,, tiny mini look but 3 dimentional look!
this has nothign to do with bodyfat for the 3 dimentional because even to begin with he ws not high bodyfat,, he has the abs dialed in he hold tons of water and some fat to begin with but its no where near high bodyfat,,
this fella method of thinking is lik emost natural in this stage that lie...if you cant beat them on size! beat them on condition! do whatever it take to get in the condition needed to beat them! that include hormones! inorder to get to that condition ,,
he decided to do a mini mutation where quality will rule over quantity ,, cycle for the poor as gh15 call it,, he thought in the way most natural think...i will be the bestest 160 around no matter what it takes since i cant afford lots of hormones and lots of hgh i will do the mini gh15 mutation
and! sucesfuly he did so!
THIS PHYSIQE HAS IN IT HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE! YOU HEAR IT RIGHT,, IT HAS IN IT LOW DOSES ANDROGENS AND HIGHER DOSES ANABOLICS,, THE PROPIONETSA IS KEPT TO LOW LOW LOW EVEN COMPLETLY ELIMINATED BEFORE COMPETITION WHAT HE WORK WITH MAINLY IS FEW TABLETS OF ANABOLICS ,, TRENBOLONA ACE TO SOME DEGREE ,,MASTERONA TO SOME DEGREE IN A COMBO VIALS LOWER DOSES! AND OFCOURSE THE MOST INFAMOUS HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY TO CREATE WHAT HE DID !,,
why didnt he put on size on scale? because he didnt want it! he dieted down for competition weight,, you either grow to compete aka kevin on abusing hgh or you down grade your weight and use lower doses gh ,, he chose the second method and this is in most liklihod for financial reasons and ofcourse because he want to do natural show and be the best among the worst than be the worst among the best or place 4rth in some no where to be found npc show
his weight on stage is 162lb 5'9 this is like 169lb 5'10 fella,, with the condition presented before me as in bodyfat that is at the 4-5% you can nto and will never! achieve it naturaly as in truly naturaly
his usage of designers was there but it was not what cause the high level condition while bodyfat drop to sub 5% and legs bodyfat is at 6% which is never the cae with true naturals,,halodrol did not cause it and fat burner did not cause it,, fat burner will put you at the 6% mark 8% legs for truly natural fella,, anything under that and you wil be erased into nowhereness of the 150s and 140s with flattening effect on the muscle,,
this fella muscles has volume and water push from the inside ,, it is as a rsult of usage of very good hgh from china,,low dose,, and the other aas i mentioned
this fella should be considered a liar! he should be ashamed of himself if he promote himself as true natural ,, and yes upon intitial look it is close but only! only! due to the number presented beforee me which is 169lb 5'10....this is natural number but ONLY !! at higher bodyfat of 6-7% this fella bring lower bodyfat and 3 dimentional volumized condition ,, not flat 2 dimentional one,, no natural diet no sodium upload ,, no carb in the world will do this to natural physiqe ,, natural physiqe dont pop ,, they usualoy pop to some degree 2 weeks out of compeittion but at 6% not 4 or 5% and their legs are not sharp they lack detail in legs ,,their back is also not as dry as his ,, he also may use diuretic i cant tell but it points to it from the over all approach he take,,
this fella tend to be water bloat ,, you cant fight estrogen naturaly if you tend to have ti and this fella has estogen writen all over him and you can tlel it from first picture,,
this can not be done truely naturaly ,, it is close indeed in the numbers! but not in the look ! ,,
this is a scambag
gh15 approveed
HA AH AH AHAHAH HA HAHA....What a fucking tool you are. You are a complete fuckwit. You are someone who has let his head get so full of himself that you actually believe yourself to be soemthing you arent.
I love how you think you have this ability to look at a picture and tell if someone is using or not. Hey douche twat....why dont you outline for everyone the last drug regime you did for one of your last "IFBBpro" shows...seeing as you are this amazing pro.
You wont because you arent a pro....I am calling you out you worthless pussy
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HIS STATS ARE ACHIEVABLE NATURALLY BUT HIS LOOK ISN'T.
THE QUALITY IS DEFINITELY HORMONE INFLUENCED....THE VASCULARITY/POP OF THE DELTS.
THE QUANTITY IS SURELY CAPABLE FROM A NATURAL BUT ITD BE A DIFFERENT LOOK.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE...TEST-TREN-MAST.
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HIS STATS ARE ACHIEVABLE NATURALLY BUT HIS LOOK ISN'T.
THE QUALITY IS DEFINITELY HORMONE INFLUENCED....THE VASCULARITY/POP OF THE DELTS.
THE QUANTITY IS SURELY CAPABLE FROM A NATURAL BUT ITD BE A DIFFERENT LOOK.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE...TEST-TREN-MAST.
Exactly except I think he's not on tren but winstrol/anavar
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Exactly except I think he's not on tren but winstrol/anavar
PERHAPS. BUT AGAIN...HIS QUANTITY OF WEIGHT IS POSSIBLE, HIS QUALITY IS NOT ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE SHOULDERS AND OVERALL VASCULARITY. THOSE TYPE OF THICK ASS VEINS ARE FROM HIGH RBC....STEROID INFLUENCED.
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Wow, I didn't even know this thread existed about me!
First of all, after reading every reply to this thread, I would like to clear a few things up.
DRUGS
I have never used steroids. Never in my life. That is the absolute truth!
I have never used ANY of the DRUGS that any of the previous posts have speculated, hypothesized about, or accused me of. (win, clen, tren, etc)
HOW LONG I HAVE BEEN BODYBUILDING/LIFTING
I have lifted weights since the 8th grade (actually earlier if you count me attempting curls and bench presses with a weight set that you fill with water/sand as a kid). The bodybuilding.com article I was featured in stated 3 years because when asked how long I had been "bodybuilding" I put down 3 years because I never made the effort to lift and diet with the intention to compete until then, but I had always been a "weightlifter" prior to 2008. At the time of the interview I simply said, 3 years, because I didn't consider myself a bodybuilder until I made the effort to compete. However, I would say I have accrued a solid 10+ years of lifting under my belt
Here are the ONLY questionable things I have taken in the past:
Twinlab Definition (2003-2004) (I believe this contained ephedra/ephedrine in it prior to the fda ban, however, I don't know for certain. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know)
Universal Animal Stak 2 (2006-2007) (From what I have read this was the "revised" version of the original Animal Stak (actually a prohormone), following it being banned. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know about this as well
I could tell you EXACTLY what I was taking (supplements), my nutrition, and my training EVERY day during this contest prep, it is all logged in excel files. There's nothing to hide.
I never used drugs for this contest prep, never have, and never will.
-Casey
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Wow, I didn't even know this thread existed about me!
First of all, after reading every reply to this thread, I would like to clear a few things up.
DRUGS
I have never used steroids. Never in my life. That is the absolute truth!
I have never used ANY of the DRUGS that any of the previous posts have speculated, hypothesized about, or accused me of. (win, clen, tren, etc)
HOW LONG I HAVE BEEN BODYBUILDING/LIFTING
I have lifted weights since the 8th grade (actually earlier if you count me attempting curls and bench presses with a weight set that you fill with water/sand as a kid). The bodybuilding.com article I was featured in stated 3 years because when asked how long I had been "bodybuilding" I put down 3 years because I never made the effort to lift and diet with the intention to compete until then, but I had always been a "weightlifter" prior to 2008. At the time of the interview I simply said, 3 years, because I didn't consider myself a bodybuilder until I made the effort to compete. However, I would say I have accrued a solid 10+ years of lifting under my belt
Here are the ONLY questionable things I have taken in the past:
Twinlab Definition (2003-2004) (I believe this contained ephedra/ephedrine in it prior to the fda ban, however, I don't know for certain. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know)
Universal Animal Stak 2 (2006-2007) (From what I have read this was the "revised" version of the original Animal Stak (actually a prohormone), following it being banned. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know about this as well
I could tell you EXACTLY what I was taking (supplements), my nutrition, and my training EVERY day during this contest prep, it is all logged in excel files. There's nothing to hide.
I never used drugs for this contest prep, never have, and never will.
-Casey
ripped dude props,,,
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Wow, I didn't even know this thread existed about me!
First of all, after reading every reply to this thread, I would like to clear a few things up.
DRUGS
I have never used steroids. Never in my life. That is the absolute truth!
I have never used ANY of the DRUGS that any of the previous posts have speculated, hypothesized about, or accused me of. (win, clen, tren, etc)
HOW LONG I HAVE BEEN BODYBUILDING/LIFTING
I have lifted weights since the 8th grade (actually earlier if you count me attempting curls and bench presses with a weight set that you fill with water/sand as a kid). The bodybuilding.com article I was featured in stated 3 years because when asked how long I had been "bodybuilding" I put down 3 years because I never made the effort to lift and diet with the intention to compete until then, but I had always been a "weightlifter" prior to 2008. At the time of the interview I simply said, 3 years, because I didn't consider myself a bodybuilder until I made the effort to compete. However, I would say I have accrued a solid 10+ years of lifting under my belt
Here are the ONLY questionable things I have taken in the past:
Twinlab Definition (2003-2004) (I believe this contained ephedra/ephedrine in it prior to the fda ban, however, I don't know for certain. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know)
Universal Animal Stak 2 (2006-2007) (From what I have read this was the "revised" version of the original Animal Stak (actually a prohormone), following it being banned. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know about this as well
I could tell you EXACTLY what I was taking (supplements), my nutrition, and my training EVERY day during this contest prep, it is all logged in excel files. There's nothing to hide.
I never used drugs for this contest prep, never have, and never will.
-Casey
Please tell us about your training. Great natural physique. This board is full of steroid fans that look like garbage without the assist. They can't comprehend that someone can look good without drugs. Is it really that hard to believe under 170 and ripped? If there isn't one person who could achieve that you might as well close all the gyms and say it's a waste of time to train.
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5'9 162lbs.....
(http://i52.tinypic.com/2qlden7.jpg)
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Needs some macaroni and cheese.
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Needs some macaroni and cheese.
He's small but he has awesome conditioning and able to maintain muscle fullness and vascularity. Tiny in clothes and at that weight you wouldn't be able to tell he lifted a weight in his life. To each his own...
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2cfoz1l.jpg)
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He's small but he has awesome conditioning and able to maintain muscle fullness and vascularity. Tiny in clothes and at that weight you wouldn't be able to tell he lifted a weight in his life. To each his own...
(http://i51.tinypic.com/2cfoz1l.jpg)
Exactly, but what is his goal to overcome a poor self image? Thats why most people lift weights I got trophies and contest wins but at the end of day they collect dust so no cigar.
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Exactly, but what is his goal to overcome a poor self image? Thats why most people lift weights I got trophies and contest wins but at the end of day they collect dust so no cigar.
He's got a good build ....I know guys who compete naturally like him and they don't look as good. They dedicate themselves 24-7 just to get a plastic trophy in the end. These guys are masochists...for me it's about looking and feeling good.
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He's got a good build ....I know guys who compete naturally like him and they don't look as good. They dedicate themselves 24-7 just to get a plastic trophy in the end. These guys are masochists...for me it's about looking and feeling good.
Yep unless you are pro level and can win cash, it's just about looking good and attracting the girls.
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This guy could def b natty I've worked with guys with this level of development who where.
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All squirrel eggs and bee pollen.
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Please tell us about your training. Great natural physique. This board is full of steroid fans that look like garbage without the assist. They can't comprehend that someone can look good without drugs. Is it really that hard to believe under 170 and ripped? If there isn't one person who could achieve that you might as well close all the gyms and say it's a waste of time to train.
Throughout high school my training primarily consisted of pressing and curling movements. All chest and biceps. I did incorporate half-ass delt/tricep/back workouts as an afterthought. I failed to grasp the importance of leg training, on top of other muscles groups beyond chest/biceps.
I was being looked at by a couple small division colleges to play outside linebacker around the beginning of my senior year in football, and was given a training program following my recruiting visit with Linfield College by the defensive coordinator. It consisted primarily of plyometrics, speed drills, and sprinting exercises. This helped contribute to SOME of my early leg development.
My father (a former football coach and semi-pro football player) emphasized the importance of weight training to improve my ability to excel on the field.
Instead of pursuing my $5,000 scholarship at Linfield (which wasn't much considering how much it cost to go to school there) I decided to attend the University of Oregon.
Upon my efforts to walk-on to the football program, I adopted their training principles that included a rigorous speed and conditioning regime, as well as an explosive 5x5 weight training program.
I ate and ate and ate........then lifted heavy and explosive as hell. Getting up to 240lbs (the heaviest I have ever been, and very fat), but was able to bench 315 x 8 reps, squat 325 x 8 reps, and deadlift 315 x 12 reps. (I have surpassed these lifts at a much lower bodyweight and better body composition, but were still quite significant for me at the time)
As I approached the beginning of my efforts towards bodybuilding, I started to adopt Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy split. I soon transitioned into Smolov and Sheiko powerlifting programs with the incorporation of hypertrophy exercises to boot.
I have also incoporated a few months of Wendler's 5/3/1 into my arsenal of training strategies, but have found the most significant gains in size and strength via a combination of Sheiko 37 and hypertrophy exercises added as accessory movements.
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Throughout high school my training primarily consisted of pressing and curling movements. All chest and biceps. I did incorporate half-ass delt/tricep/back workouts as an afterthought. I failed to grasp the importance of leg training, on top of other muscles groups beyond chest/biceps.
I was being looked at by a couple small division colleges to play outside linebacker around the beginning of my senior year in football, and was given a training program following my recruiting visit with Linfield College by the defensive coordinator. It consisted primarily of plyometrics, speed drills, and sprinting exercises. This helped contribute to SOME of my early leg development.
My father (a former football coach and semi-pro football player) emphasized the importance of weight training to improve my ability to excel on the field.
Instead of pursuing my $5,000 scholarship at Linfield (which wasn't much considering how much it cost to go to school there) I decided to attend the University of Oregon.
Upon my efforts to walk-on to the football program, I adopted their training principles that included a rigorous speed and conditioning regime, as well as an explosive 5x5 weight training program.
I ate and ate and ate........then lifted heavy and explosive as hell. Getting up to 240lbs (the heaviest I have ever been, and very fat), but was able to bench 315 x 8 reps, squat 325 x 8 reps, and deadlift 315 x 12 reps. (I have surpassed these lifts at a much lower bodyweight and better body composition, but were still quite significant for me at the time)
As I approached the beginning of my efforts towards bodybuilding, I started to adopt Layne Norton's Power/Hypertrophy split. I soon transitioned into Smolov and Sheiko powerlifting programs with the incorporation of hypertrophy exercises to boot.
I have also incoporated a few months of Wendler's 5/3/1 into my arsenal of training strategies, but have found the most significant gains in size and strength via a combination of Sheiko 37 and hypertrophy exercises added as accessory movements.
So you love the cock then?
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he could be natural.
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Can't be natural because because we all know the mantra of Getbig and really bb in general, "if I can't do it no one can!" He's ripped, not much else. Delts don't have the AAS/gh pop to them, legs arent super cut. I could be wrong though
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Twinlab Definition (2003-2004) (I believe this contained ephedra/ephedrine in it prior to the fda ban, however, I don't know for certain. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know)
Universal Animal Stak 2 (2006-2007) (From what I have read this was the "revised" version of the original Animal Stak (actually a prohormone), following it being banned. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know about this as well
yada yada yada
these guys who take tackle boxes full of supps are so full of shit
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What was centopani and lewis doing at a swim meet?
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Twinlab Definition (2003-2004) (I believe this contained ephedra/ephedrine in it prior to the fda ban, however, I don't know for certain. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know)
Universal Animal Stak 2 (2006-2007) (From what I have read this was the "revised" version of the original Animal Stak (actually a prohormone), following it being banned. If you have specific info on this, I would like to know about this as well
yada yada yada
these guys who take tackle boxes full of supps are so full of shit
Remember Ronnie always breaking out his "tackle box" in his vids? Must have been 30 diff vit/supplements in there. What a joke
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exactly hundreds of pills per day is bull shit you are not natural kid
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(http://i54.tinypic.com/e6xglw.jpg)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/swz91g.jpg)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2v846xf.jpg)
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the guy in the middle has juiced before/juices, the guy on the right looks lifetime Nattie
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Not much fat, at all!
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Great lighting in the gym, looks like a natty on stage
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrfmoepC221qm5nl6o1_500.jpg)
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ppl are so naive
to think this guy is lifetime nattie
if ppl believe Lance armstrong, Ade Rai, skip la cour, norton etc etc then they can believe anything ::)
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A Yamaha 1100cc.
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Looks natty to me. Great conditioning.
I think a lot of PED users wish he was using, that way it wouldn't make them look so bad.
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nice contribution.and now please fuck off
co signed
no-one wants to read your dear diary masturbation about how you took 2 scoops of preworkout once and it may be cheating. Fuck off back to bodybuilding.com, thanks
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he is on plenty of stuff... naturally ripped is very small and flat
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nice contribution.and now please fuck off
LOl
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ppl are so naive
to think this guy is lifetime nattie
if ppl believe Lance armstrong, Ade Rai, skip la cour, norton etc etc then they can believe anything ::)
Yeah like Nasser won any Mr Olympia , I agree people are dumb ;D
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if ppl believe Lance armstrong, Ade Rai, skip la cour, norton, jeff w., etc etc then they can believe anything
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BOOOM!!!