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Ya gotta love cops.
« on: February 20, 2013, 03:22:34 PM »
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/man-down-syndrome-loved-police-died-police-custody-183111733.html

Man with Down syndrome, a fan of the police, dies in police custody

The death of a man with Down syndrome while in police custody was ruled a homicide by the chief medical examiner’s office in Baltimore.
The 26-year-old, Robert Ethan Saylor, was so enamored with law enforcement that he would call 911 just to ask questions. About a month ago, he'd gone to see "Zero Dark Thirty” and immediately wanted to see it again. When he refused to leave the Frederick, Md., movie theater, security was called, and three off-duty deputies arrived: Lt. Scott Jewell, Sgt. Rick Rochford and Deputy First Class James Harris.
According to the Washington Post, "Saylor cursed at the deputies, who weren’t wearing uniforms, and began hitting and kicking them. The deputies restrained him using three sets of handcuffs linked together and escorted him from the theater." At some point, he "ended up on the ground ... suffered a medical emergency and died."
Patti Saylor, Ethan’s mother, told the CBS local Baltimore station, “He has never had anybody put their hands on him before in his life. He would not have been doing anything threatening to anybody.”
The lawyer for the family, Joseph Espo, told the Washington Post, “Ethan was developmentally disabled, not a criminal.” If anything, noted the paper, Saylor, who was a huge “NCIS” fan, caused police to make too many unnecessary trips to his house because he just liked to talk to officers, prompting his mom to bring cookies to the station as a thank you last year.
Espo added that more training for officers seemed to be in order. “Clearly it highlights a need for training, if there was none, or more and better training if there was some," he said.
The story has received national attention. Comments like this one on the Frederick County Facebook page are typical: “Obvious this man was mentally challenged just by appearance and any police officer worth his salt would and should have taken that into consideration. This is a sad, horrible thing and action should be taken against these officers," wrote Brandon Aviance Glenn.
Cathi Clark Kreis posted, “I am a special education teacher for 20 years and have NEVER met a violent child with Down Syndrome! As a teacher, I am required to be trained in Crisis Prevention Intervention (CPI). I'm surprised police officers are not.”
After hundreds of concerned messages, Frederick County Sheriff Charles Jenkins posted a letter in response. It reads in part, “The death of Mr. Saylor was very tragic and I want to assure everyone that a thorough investigation is being conducted.” Jenkins added that the three officers had been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of the investigation.
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« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 03:25:53 PM »
How can any of these LEOs sleep at night after this?

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 03:26:44 PM »
Not good policemen there

They prolly offed him due to being a downer, thinking that it would be under the rug easily.

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« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 03:29:06 PM »
How can any of these LEOs sleep at night after this?

I've worked with many developmentally disabled children and adults in high school here in Vegas under the Lorenzi Kids Program. Most had Down's and all were good NON-violent people.  
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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 03:29:37 PM »
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/man-down-syndrome-loved-police-died-police-custody-183111733.html

Man with Down syndrome, a fan of the police, dies in police custody

The death of a man with Down syndrome while in police custody was ruled a homicide by the chief medical examiner’s office in Baltimore.
The 26-year-old, Robert Ethan Saylor, was so enamored with law enforcement that he would call 911 just to ask questions. About a month ago, he'd gone to see "Zero Dark Thirty” and immediately wanted to see it again. When he refused to leave the Frederick, Md., movie theater, security was called, and three off-duty deputies arrived: Lt. Scott Jewell, Sgt. Rick Rochford and Deputy First Class James Harris.
This is the key part, some fucking idiot over reacting and now the guys dead.

Dumping it on the cops is a bit much, its likely the guy was already over agitated before they even arrived.

Its a textbook situation, where your average person denies all responsibility for a situation and dumps their minor issue on the authorities.

Just think all they had to do was let him watch the fucking movie.

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« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 03:30:18 PM »
lets hope he accepted jesus before his death

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 03:31:38 PM »
Sketchy details on how he died, "At some point, he "ended up on the ground ...  and died."  WTF does that mean?
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2013, 03:32:24 PM »
I've worked with many developmentally disabled children and adults in high school here in Vegas under the Lorenzi Kids Program. Most had Down's and all were good people.   

When I was a child, I befriended a "special" kid that many made fun of.
I beat the piss out of one of the bullies, giving him a black eye.  Realize I was only in kindergarten, but I was posessed with a rage with what I witnessed.
It was very hard for the teachers to explain to the parents of the kid with the black eye why I wasn't being punished.

I may be a very conservative individual, but a society must be judged by how it treats those with severe disabilities/the elderly/war veterans.

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« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2013, 03:33:27 PM »
lets hope he accepted jesus before his death

Take the passive aggressive Jew strategy elsewhere. It won't work porky.

There's a place in heaven for this young man.
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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2013, 03:35:11 PM »
Take the passive aggressive Jew strategy elsewhere. It won't work porky.

There's a place in heaven for this young man.


If dogs and special people don't get to heaven by default, I don't know that I want to end up there.

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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2013, 03:38:16 PM »
Take the passive aggressive Jew strategy elsewhere. It won't work porky.

There's a place in heaven for this young man.


 :D just busting your balls piggs.

yes, cops get that 'pack' mentality when they are around each others, just like gangsters. sad, this kid didnt deserve this at all  

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2013, 03:39:46 PM »
:D just busting your balls piggs.

yes, cops get that 'pack' mentality when they are around each others, just like gangsters. sad, this kid didnt deserve this at all  

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2013, 03:42:13 PM »
My brother is a cop but a fair one. He has a strong sense of justice and whats right and wrong. He told me once that some kid decided to run from the cops and my brother and a few cops chased after him.  My brother caught him and brought him down.  When the other cops caught up they started yelling stop resisting when he clearly wasn't.  They do this so they can get a few wacks in.  My brother was a rookie at the time and it really bothered him.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 03:43:26 PM »
I've worked with many developmentally disabled children and adults in high school here in Vegas under the Lorenzi Kids Program. Most had Down's and all were good NON-violent people.  
No trolling here...
My Grandma (RIP) used to tell me that she thought people with Downs were angels. Sounds cheesy, but since then ive noticed that all the ones I've met had such a refreshing childlike innocence and humility, always makes me think about what she said.

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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2013, 03:46:00 PM »
  Dorner was NOT wrong about them.

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 03:46:18 PM »
My brother is a cop but a fair one. He has a stromg sense of justice and whats right and wrong. He told me once that some kid decided to run from the cops and my brother and a few cops chased after him.  My brother caught him and brought him down.  When the other cops caught up they started yelling stop resisting when he clearly wasn't.  They do this so they can get a few wacks in.  My brother was a rookie at the time and it really bothered him.
yeah, i think thats standard procedure. Kinda like throwing your night stick at a guy so he catches it, then shooting him because "he took my nightstick and threatened me."

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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 03:47:48 PM »
  Dorner was NOT wrong about them.

yeah that asian chick was quite the threat to him.  ::)

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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2013, 03:53:31 PM »


Ethan was a loved and cherished member of Damascus Road Community Church, where he participated in the men’s Choir. Ethan was known by the congregation as ‘the best hugger’ and was warmly embraced by all.”
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2013, 03:55:22 PM »
R.I.P.
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