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“This is a tough hurricane, one of the wettest we’ve ever seen from the standpoint of water,” he said. “Rarely have we had an experience like it and it certainly is not good.”
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-Definitely needs a better speech writer. ;)
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And what does it say about the challenger, that he actually won?
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And what does it say about the challenger, that he actually won?
Same question the liberal networks aren't asking Stomy Daniels when she describes his penis: What does it say about you that you slept with him?
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And what does it say about the challenger, that he actually won?
The electorate fucked up in electing Trump—an out-of-touch narcissistic, arrogant, entitled and emotionally immature child in the body of an obese elderly man.
But the electorate did NOT fuck up in NOT electing Hillary Clinton—an out-of-touch narcicisstic, arrogant, entitled and calculating snake in the body of an elderly woman.
Both choices were shit.
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The electorate fucked up in electing Trump—an out-of-touch narcissistic, arrogant, entitled and emotionally immature child in the body of an obese elderly man.
But the electorate did NOT fuck up in NOT electing Hillary Clinton—an out-of-touch narcicisstic, arrogant, entitled and calculating snake in the body of an elderly woman.
Both choices were shit.
Hillary was never meant to be the Democrat candidate in 2016. Bernie Sanders was. Clearly he had the momentum of a huge grassroots campaign that basically had almost every liberal under 35 in his pocket, plus minorities were starting to listen to him as well. She abused the primary system with "super" delegates to force him out of the race and pissed off a lot of people in the process. That's why she lost. Many former Bernie voters either went home or voted for someone else on election day, in some cases Trump himself.
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The electorate fucked up in electing Trump—an out-of-touch narcissistic, arrogant, entitled and emotionally immature child in the body of an obese elderly man.
But the electorate did NOT fuck up in NOT electing Hillary Clinton—an out-of-touch narcicisstic, arrogant, entitled and calculating snake in the body of an elderly woman.
Both choices were shit.
I hate to admit that you got this right on the button. It is a very sad state of affairs when we are given a choice of voting for the least of the worse candidate. Politics have become a complete sham.
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Hillary was never meant to be the Democrat candidate in 2016. Bernie Sanders was. Clearly he had the momentum of a huge grassroots campaign that basically had almost every liberal under 35 in his pocket, plus minorities were starting to listen to him as well. She abused the primary system with "super" delegates to force him out of the race and pissed off a lot of people in the process. That's why she lost. Many former Bernie voters either went home or voted for someone else on election day, in some cases Trump himself.
I'll give you credit when credit is due. It really looks like grumpy faced Sanders was the best of the offerings.
Not to worry, I've got the Depends securely fastened tonight. ;D
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Hillary was never meant to be the Democrat candidate in 2016. Bernie Sanders was. Clearly he had the momentum of a huge grassroots campaign that basically had almost every liberal under 35 in his pocket, plus minorities were starting to listen to him as well. She abused the primary system with "super" delegates to force him out of the race and pissed off a lot of people in the process. That's why she lost. Many former Bernie voters either went home or voted for someone else on election day, in some cases Trump himself.
I don’t know who was “meant” to be the nominee. All I know is who the party put up, and that was Hillary Clinton, a deeply flawed career politician that was ill-equipped to match Trump’s nonsensical and bombastic reality-tv-based rhetoric.
Maybe Bernie could have won. Maybe not. We’ll never know.
Don’t imagine that he’d be any better than the present occupant of the White House. Just another politician.
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The electorate fucked up in electing Trump—an out-of-touch narcissistic, arrogant, entitled and emotionally immature child in the body of an obese elderly man.
But the electorate did NOT fuck up in NOT electing Hillary Clinton—an out-of-touch narcicisstic, arrogant, entitled and calculating snake in the body of an elderly woman.
Both choices were shit.
the electorate are the voters and they did choose Hillary Clinton
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I don’t know who was “meant” to be the nominee. All I know is who the party put up, and that was Hillary Clinton, a deeply flawed career politician that was ill-equipped to match Trump’s nonsensical and bombastic reality-tv-based rhetoric.
Which is why she lost. Bernie didn't have her baggage and had a much stronger stream of support among Democrat voters, particularly under 35, a number of whom only reluctantly voter for her in general election or not at all.
Maybe Bernie could have won. Maybe not. We’ll never know.
The head-to-head polls done before he lost to Hillary suggested he would've won, and based on how liberal the news outlets and social media users are, it's a safe bet he was more likable and represented more people than Donal Trump (mostly white men with high school diplomas and a small number of women, no one else).
Don’t imagine that he’d be any better than the present occupant of the White House. Just another politician.
That's your perception. If the Dems win the house and senate, and given how little support Trump has in the general population (and high unfavorability rating), the odds are Bernie's policies, laws, and measures would've passed much more smoothly through the legislature than Donald's so far.
the electorate are the voters and they did choose Hillary Clinton.
Delegates aren't the electorate. They vote for who they want to vote for, regardless of what people in their state decided. The peoples' primary votes merely guide them in the direction the voters want them to go, but it's their decision whom to vote for, and the career politician Hillary clearly had more influence over that process than the outsider Bernie Sanders. There were e-mail scandals that leaked as well confirming the Clinton campaign's attempts to bias the process, to the point where Sanders' team took them to court. Internal corruption and liberal disenchantment with the nomination process is why Clinton lost. There's probably still so much sour grapes about it that I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins another term despite scandals and low approval ratings simply because Democrats don't believe in their own party machinery anymore, since their votes apparently didn't matter 2 years back.
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Which is why she lost. Bernie didn't have her baggage and had a much stronger stream of support among Democrat voters, particularly under 35, a number of whom only reluctantly voter for her in general election or not at all.
The head-to-head polls done before he lost to Hillary suggested he would've won, and based on how liberal the news outlets and social media users are, it's a safe bet he was more likable and represented more people than Donal Trump (mostly white men with high school diplomas and a small number of women, no one else).
That's your perception. If the Dems win the house and senate, and given how little support Trump has in the general population (and high unfavorability rating), the odds are Bernie's policies, laws, and measures would've passed much more smoothly through the legislature than Donald's so far.
Delegates aren't the electorate. They vote for who they want to vote for, regardless of what people in their state decided. The peoples' primary votes merely guide them in the direction the voters want them to go, but it's their decision whom to vote for, and the career politician Hillary clearly had more influence over that process than the outsider Bernie Sanders. There were e-mail scandals that leaked as well confirming the Clinton campaign's attempts to bias the process, to the point where Sanders' team took them to court. Internal corruption and liberal disenchantment with the nomination process is why Clinton lost. There's probably still so much sour grapes about it that I wouldn't be surprised if Trump wins another term despite scandals and low approval ratings simply because Democrats don't believe in their own party machinery anymore, since their votes apparently didn't matter 2 years back.
No shit Sherlock
Avxo specified "the electorate" and the electorate chose Hillary as POTUS
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No shit Sherlock
Avxo specified "the electorate" and the electorate chose Hillary as POTUS
Right, but we've established the popular vote isn't worth the toilet paper it's printed on in the voting booths the millions of lemmings cram into every 2-4 years thinking their voice actually matters.
So, basically, Hillary didn't win the nomination by popular vote at all. She won it by manipulating (super)delegates whom she knew and through personal favors, shutting out the rightful winner and alienating millions of potential voters in the process. Without so much as an apology or a mea culpa to the Sanders campaign, which only slowly and reluctantly threw its support behind her.
Gee, I wonder how Trump got elected. ;)
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Right, but we've established the popular vote isn't worth the toilet paper it's printed on in the voting booths the millions of lemmings cram into every 2-4 years thinking their voice actually matters.
So, basically, Hillary didn't win the nomination by popular vote at all. She won it by manipulating (super)delegates whom she knew and through personal favors, shutting out the rightful winner and alienating millions of potential voters in the process. Without so much as an apology or a mea culpa to the Sanders campaign, which only slowly and reluctantly threw its support behind her.
Gee, I wonder how Trump got elected. ;)
what a truly idiotic statement
of course the popular vote is worth something - that's how electoral votes are allocated which is why around 77,000, voters in 3 rust belt states handed Trump a victory in spite of losing the popular vote by almost 3 million
This is also the reason why Trump has no popular support. He never had it to begin with.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
Again, I was responding to Avxo and replying to what he specifically wrote regarding "the electorate"
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what a truly idiotic statement
Could be said of any one of the nearly 35000 posts of yours on here.
of course the popular vote is worth something - that's how electoral votes are allocated which is why around 77,000, voters in 3 rust belt states handed Trump a victory in spite of losing the popular vote by almost 3 million
Then why did Al Gore and Hillary lose the election if it's worth so much?
This is also the reason why Trump has no popular support. He never had it to begin with.
https://www.weeklystandard.com/john-mccormack/the-election-came-down-to-77-744-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan-updated
No, he had (and has) lots of support, which is why he won.
Again, I was responding to Avxo and replying to what he specifically wrote regarding "the electorate"
Right but we've established what the electorate wants and who gets elected are two separate things, because the electorate's irrelevant in states that aren't heavily weighted at the college.
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No shit Sherlock
Avxo specified "the electorate" and the electorate chose Hillary as POTUS
Meh, how'd that turn out?
Thank allah the electoral college had the common sense all those illegals and dead people that voted for killary didn't have.
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Could be said of any one of the nearly 35000 posts of yours on here.
Then why did Al Gore and Hillary lose the election if it's worth so much?
No, he had (and has) lots of support, which is why he won.
Right but we've established what the electorate wants and who gets elected are two separate things, because the electorate's irrelevant in states that aren't heavily weighted at the college.
everything I wrote in that last post is a verifiable fact
sorry you're having a hard time dealing with it
seems to be a common problem for you
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everything I wrote in that last post is a verifiable fact
It's also a non-sequitur, because it has nothing to do with what I said. Your stock in trade on here.
sorry you're having a hard time dealing with it
Anybody who doesn't live in the alternative dimension you seem to inhabit would, but I gave it a shot with logic and common sense.
seems to be a common problem for you
Followed by the well-worn ad hominem for the finishing move.
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You guys are having a rational discussion with one another here. What a surprise. Unfortunately, the topic has been beat to death. What happened two years ago is not as important as what happens today, tomorrow and so on.
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You guys are having a rational discussion with one another here. What a surprise. Unfortunately, the topic has been beat to death. What happened two years ago is not as important as what happens today, tomorrow and so on.
Avxo said the electorate did not not elect Hillary Clinton
All I did was point out that in fact "the electorate" did in fact elect Hillary Clinto
that's all I said
I never said Trump wasn't POTUS or that Trump didn't win the electoral college, etc..
Just pointed out the fact that the electorate did in fact choose Hillary to be POTUS
No one should have any problem understanding that or have anything to dispute about it
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The electorate fucked up in electing Trump—an out-of-touch narcissistic, arrogant, entitled and emotionally immature child in the body of an obese elderly man.
But the electorate did NOT fuck up in NOT electing Hillary Clinton—an out-of-touch narcicisstic, arrogant, entitled and calculating snake in the body of an elderly woman.
Both choices were shit.
this is what I've been saying since day one where are all the great minds and innovators in this country ... these two turds are supposed to be the cream of the crop....... please what a sad state of affairs...
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this is what I've been saying since day one where are all the great minds and innovators in this country ... these two turds are supposed to be the cream of the crop....... please what a sad state of affairs...
"Idiocracy" plays itself out in real life.
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Avxo said the electorate did not not elect Hillary Clinton
All I did was point out that in fact "the electorate" did in fact elect Hillary Clinto
that's all I said
I never said Trump wasn't POTUS or that Trump didn't win the electoral college, etc..
Just pointed out the fact that the electorate did in fact choose Hillary to be POTUS
No one should have any problem understanding that or have anything to dispute about it
Nobody cares what you think, dude. You're the joke of the forum. Zero allies, zero talking points, zero logic. It's why I get praised whenever I stomp you into the pavement rhetorically on here.
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Nobody cares what you think, dude. You're the joke of the forum. Zero allies, zero talking points, zero logic. It's why I get praised whenever I stomp you into the pavement rhetorically on here.
It always cracks me up when idiots like you declare themselves the spokesperson for everyone
Are you part of the "nobody" who doesn't care?
If so, why do you keep responding to me or even better responding when I'm talking with someone else?
you get "praised" by losers who are too much of pussy to attempt to engage me in a debate
feel free to keep trying and I'll continue to enjoy pointing out every stupid thing you write and laughing at you
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No one anywhere gives a rats ass what you think about anything
Sure they do. My threads here are proof of that.
you get "praised" by losers who are too much of pussy to attempt to engage me in a debate
feel free to keep trying and I'll continue to enjoy pointing out every stupid thing you write and laughing at you
You have no friends and no one likes you, here or offline. It's why no one ever agrees with anything you say and you're constantly on the defensive with your lonely battles here. HTH.
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Sure they do. My threads here are proof of that.
You have no friends and no one likes you, here or offline. It's why no one ever agrees with anything you say and you're constantly on the defensive with your lonely battles here. HTH.
why do you keep responding to my posts when you don't care ?
Why do bizarre statements about me. You don't know me in real life nor do you see the PM's I receive.
The desperation in your personal attacks are pathetic and pretty obvious you're doing that out of frustration because you can't actually win an argument against me.
I assume you'll continue to demonstrate that you don't care about what I say by continuing to respond to my posts
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why do you keep responding to my posts when you don't care ?
Why do bizarre statements about me. You don't know me in real life nor do you see the PM's I receive.
The desperation in your personal attacks are pathetic and pretty obvious you're doing that out of frustration because you can't actually win an argument against me.
I assume you'll continue to demonstrate that you don't care about what I say by continuing to respond to my posts
This is a highly emotional response inappropriate to the type of statement you're responding to. It strongly suggests I'm right about you being lonely and friendless on here, despite your massive investment in terms of posts and thread volume.