I gotta say. Looking at these last two pages of this thread has made my test rise. Not in a long while have I felt the need to train like I did well over twenty years ago. There is a reason why Arnold the Oak is was and always will be the best. No matter others have matched and bested his title count. We all know for a fact if he had stayed in the game he would have won right through the mid 1980s. Besides all that the man is bodybuilding and there is no one on this board that would be sad if they had his build. Think about that s.hi.t for a minute, just how godlike you would feel. No wonder the man was arrogant, he had a right to be.