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Title: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2012, 03:51:14 AM
Catholic University Says Obamacare Will Double Insurance Costs
Posted in Top Stories | 31 comments
May 15, 2012
By Todd Starnes
The Franciscan University of Steubenville has announced it will drop health insurance coverage for students because the cost of the plan is expected to double under Obamacare. The university also took issue with a federal mandate that their insurance plan provide free birth control.
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The small Catholic school in Ohio posted a statement on their website stating they “will not participate in a plan that requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life.”
The university told Fox News that in addition to dropping its student insurance coverage, it will no longer require students to carry insurance. The university said it would maintain their current health insurance coverage for employees.
 ”This is putting people in a position where they are having to choose between their faith and their morality — and now an unjust cost,” said Mike Hernon, vice president of advancement. “These sorts of regulations from the government are forcing our hand in a way that’s really wrong.”
Hernon said students must have insurance – either through their parent’s policy or through the university’s basic plan. The plan currently costs approximately $600 per year. However, Hernon said their health care provider informed them that under Obamacare, the policy would double in price to $1,200 and the following year it would triple.

“We couldn’t believe the price (increase),” he told Fox News. “We had them go back and reconfirm it. They said it was dictated by coverage limits that were released by the Obama administration.”
“At the end of the day, it’s the students who are hurt by this,” he said.

Hernon said the university had no control over the costs and would still maintain a health clinic on campus that did not require health insurance.

He said it was a difficult decision for the university -but they could not, in good conscience, offer a plant that would not only violate religious freedom but double and even triple the costs for students.
“It’s harming our students,” he said. “Obamacare is forcing these sorts of costs and immoral options on our students.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2012, 03:52:25 AM
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/catholic-university-says-obamacare-will-double-insurance-costs.html


Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on May 16, 2012, 04:20:01 AM
Catholic University Says Obamacare Will Double Insurance Costs
Posted in Top Stories | 31 comments
May 15, 2012
By Todd Starnes
The Franciscan University of Steubenville has announced it will drop health insurance coverage for students because the cost of the plan is expected to double under Obamacare. The university also took issue with a federal mandate that their insurance plan provide free birth control.
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The small Catholic school in Ohio posted a statement on their website stating they “will not participate in a plan that requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life.”
The university told Fox News that in addition to dropping its student insurance coverage, it will no longer require students to carry insurance. The university said it would maintain their current health insurance coverage for employees.
 ”This is putting people in a position where they are having to choose between their faith and their morality — and now an unjust cost,” said Mike Hernon, vice president of advancement. “These sorts of regulations from the government are forcing our hand in a way that’s really wrong.”
Hernon said students must have insurance – either through their parent’s policy or through the university’s basic plan. The plan currently costs approximately $600 per year. However, Hernon said their health care provider informed them that under Obamacare, the policy would double in price to $1,200 and the following year it would triple.

“We couldn’t believe the price (increase),” he told Fox News. “We had them go back and reconfirm it. They said it was dictated by coverage limits that were released by the Obama administration.”
“At the end of the day, it’s the students who are hurt by this,” he said.

Hernon said the university had no control over the costs and would still maintain a health clinic on campus that did not require health insurance.

He said it was a difficult decision for the university -but they could not, in good conscience, offer a plant that would not only violate religious freedom but double and even triple the costs for students.
“It’s harming our students,” he said. “Obamacare is forcing these sorts of costs and immoral options on our students.



Title says one thing....Church say the truth..... ::)
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2012, 04:21:49 AM
Hey idiot - they gave two reasons the birth con as well as the steep cost hikes.   

Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: whork on May 16, 2012, 04:39:02 AM
Hey idiot - they gave two reasons the birth con as well as the steep cost hikes.   




You do know health insurance companies earns the most out of all private coorporations right?
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: dario73 on May 16, 2012, 04:54:34 AM
It has begun. This will not be the only case. Private corporations will do the same if obamacare is not struck down completely by SCOTUS.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2012, 05:04:00 AM
”This is putting people in a position where they are having to choose between their faith and their morality — and now an unjust cost,”  said Mike Hernon, vice president of advancement. “These sorts of regulations from the government are forcing our hand in a way that’s really wrong.”
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: whork on May 16, 2012, 08:00:57 AM
Yes its much better that health care companies make a fortune while dropping kids and others essentially writing their death sentence
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2012, 08:03:27 AM
Yes its much better that health care companies make a fortune while dropping kids and others essentially writing their death sentence

You really are dumb.   When more people are forced to drop coverage altogether and people have nothing at all that is better? 

BTW - RP was against obamacare.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: whork on May 16, 2012, 08:09:01 AM
You really are dumb.   When more people are forced to drop coverage altogether and people have nothing at all that is better? 

BTW - RP was against obamacare.

The health care companies are increasing prices so they can continue making a HUGE profit out of sick people. Yeah Obama is theevil one ::)

I dont agree with al that RP says and does but he is consistent and not dirty like the rest of the bunch so i support him
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: dario73 on May 16, 2012, 08:09:45 AM
You really are dumb.   When more people are forced to drop coverage altogether and people have nothing at all that is better?  

BTW - RP was against obamacare.

Yes, 3333. He is that dumb. Sad, isn't it?

Do you notice that his responses always take the extreme view? There is never any sense of restrain or balance. Typical liberal.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: whork on May 16, 2012, 08:22:39 AM
Yes, 3333. He is that dumb. Sad, isn't it?

Do you notice that his responses always take the extreme view? There is never any sense of restrain or balance. Typical liberal.

Thank god you and 333.... are so balanced then.

One believes in fairy tales with the mental capacity of men living 1000 of years ago and the other one is convinced Obama is the Devil himself.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Straw Man on May 16, 2012, 09:53:39 AM
Hey idiot - they gave two reasons the birth con as well as the steep cost hikes.   

yet you only show one reason in your title and like many other Catholic Universities, The Franciscan University of Steubenville will continue to offer contraception to their employees.   

Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Option D on May 16, 2012, 09:58:20 AM
yet you only show one reason in your title and like many other Catholic Universities, The Franciscan University of Steubenville will continue to offer contraception to their employees.   



hahahahahaha you expected an accurate and full depiction of the story...hahahahhah from 3333 hahahahhahahhahaahhahaah a... I learned that shit a while ago.. Dont count on that shit from this guy.. he will skew the hell out of some shit... even lie... to try and prove a point.. and even when he is caught.. he will either ignore it... or argue it to pure shit... oh yeah, he will say... "but but but..did you see my thread on Oil..
hahahahahahahahahaha  this fuggin guy
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 16, 2012, 10:02:58 AM
hahahahahaha you expected an accurate and full depiction of the story...hahahahhah from 3333 hahahahhahahhahaahhahaah a... I learned that shit a while ago.. Dont count on that shit from this guy.. he will skew the hell out of some shit... even lie... to try and prove a point.. and even when he is caught.. he will either ignore it... or argue it to pure shit... oh yeah, he will say... "but but but..did you see my thread on Oil..
hahahahahahahahahaha  this fuggin guy

“We couldn’t believe the price (increase),” he told Fox News. “We had them go back and reconfirm it. They said it was dictated by coverage limits that were released by the Obama administration.”

“At the end of the day, it’s the students who are hurt by this,” he said.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Option D on May 16, 2012, 10:06:49 AM
“We couldn’t believe the price (increase),” he told Fox News. “We had them go back and reconfirm it. They said it was dictated by coverage limits that were released by the Obama administration.”

“At the end of the day, it’s the students who are hurt by this,” he said.



Who is "they"
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Straw Man on May 16, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
“We couldn’t believe the price (increase),” he told Fox News. “We had them go back and reconfirm it. They said it was dictated by coverage limits that were released by the Obama administration.”

“At the end of the day, it’s the students who are hurt by this,” he said.


and still they continue to offer it for employees so I guess the price is not an issue there

sounds like a typical excuse of a religious hypocrite
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: OzmO on May 16, 2012, 10:07:46 AM

Who is "they"

them
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Straw Man on May 16, 2012, 10:09:37 AM
btw - the cost of $1200 a year is insanely cheap and I'm sure the parents would have been glad to pick up the slack as it's probably MUCH cheaper than adding their child to ther employer sponsored plan
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: OzmO on May 16, 2012, 10:13:23 AM
Wait a second aren't they dropping their health care services?
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Option D on May 16, 2012, 10:15:26 AM
them
ok... that clears it up
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Straw Man on May 16, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
Wait a second aren't they dropping their health care services?

only for students and now instead of getting healthcare @ $100 a month (and they could have easily passed along the additional $50 a month since the prior plan cost $600 year) they student are now free to go out and pay 2x to 5x that amount for a private plan

Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: MCWAY on May 16, 2012, 11:05:50 AM
It sounds like a good idea. School is out and by the time the fall starts, ObamaCare may likely be ruled unconstitutional and it gets scrapped.

Then, they can resume giving students health care benefits again.
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Straw Man on May 16, 2012, 12:08:55 PM
It sounds like a good idea. School is out and by the time the fall starts, ObamaCare may likely be ruled unconstitutional and it gets scrapped.

Then, they can resume giving students health care benefits again.

or they can just give their students the exact same insurance plan they give their employees

apparently there is no religious issue with allowing employees access to contraception so why is it suddenly an issue for students

Even better,  ANY Catholic or religious instituion can just create the group plan and require the students to pay 100% of the cost.  Creating the group plan gives them acces to group rates while not having to spend one precious dime of their money to pay the premium.  

They obviously need that money for the much more hallowed purpose of paying settlements for the hundreds if not thousands of cases of child fucking that they allowed to happen for years (and no doubt this is not something that just started happening in the 20th century and is probably as much of a tradition in the church as mass on Sundays)
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: whork on May 18, 2012, 05:16:24 AM
or they can just give their students the exact same insurance plan they give their employees

apparently there is no religious issue with allowing employees access to contraception so why is it suddenly an issue for students

Even better,  ANY Catholic or religious instituion can just create the group plan and require the students to pay 100% of the cost.  Creating the group plan gives them acces to group rates while not having to spend one precious dime of their money to pay the premium.  

They obviously need that money for the much more hallowed purpose of paying settlements for the hundreds if not thousands of cases of child fucking that they allowed to happen for years (and no doubt this is not something that just started happening in the 20th century and is probably as much of a tradition in the church as mass on Sundays)

BOOOM
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 18, 2012, 05:46:42 AM
BOOOM

any cases of this college with jury payouts you commie douche? 
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: whork on May 18, 2012, 05:58:10 AM
any cases of this college with jury payouts you commie douche? 

No no you got it all wrong.

I HAVE a job and you DONT.

That makes you the commie and me the capitalist.

Unlike you though i dont hate the US and its citizens and i want everybody to have health care not just the rich like you suck up to so bad
Title: Re: Catholic University dropping health care due to ObamaCare doubling costs.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 23, 2012, 03:27:22 AM
Ave Maria drops student health insurance over HHS mandate
CNA ^ | 5/23/12
Posted on May 23, 2012 6:24:48 AM EDT by markomalley

Ave Maria University has become the second Catholic college to announce it will discontinue its student health insurance plan due to the Obama administration’s contraception mandate.

In a May 21 statement, university president Jim Towey called the mandate “an affront to our core values.”

“Ave Maria University will not offer or pay for health insurance plans that violate our deeply-held religious beliefs,” he said.

The announcement comes amid continued controversy over a federal insurance mandate that will require employers and colleges to offer health care plans that cover contraception, sterilization and abortion-causing drugs, even if doing so violates their religious beliefs.

The mandate has been widely criticized for the threat that it poses to religious freedom. Catholic schools, hospitals and charitable agencies have warned that they will be forced to consider closing their doors rather than comply with the mandate and act against the beliefs.

In choosing to cut its student health insurance plan, Ave Maria is following in the footsteps of Franciscan University of Steubenville, which also recently announced that it would be dropping its student policy to avoid participating in a plan that violated Catholic teaching.

Towey said it was “regrettable” that the “long-standing tradition” of protecting religious freedom was being fiercely attacked and that college students at religious institutions would be among the “first victims.”

He explained that since its founding, Ave Maria University has offered its students an inexpensive health insurance policy, which specifically excludes coverage of products and procedures that violate Church teaching.

However, that changed when the university was recently notified by its insurance carrier that coverage of these objectionable “preventive care services” would soon be required despite the school’s religious opposition to them.

In addition, the insurance carrier said that university students would face both a 66 percent increase in their premiums and an increase in their deductible as a result of requirements under the Affordable Care Act.

“It is a sad day when Ave Maria’s students are forced to choose between enrolling in a health insurance plan that is both costly and offers morally objectionable benefits, and having no coverage at all,” said Towey.

Ave Maria filed a lawsuit seeking relief from the mandate in February. Towey said he is confident in the favorable outcome of the suit and applauded the other Catholic groups that have joined in the effort of “taking this battle to the courts.”

On May 21, a wave of new lawsuits against the mandate was announced. Forty-three Catholic dioceses and organizations across the country are filing lawsuits in 12 different jurisdictions.

Bishops from dioceses across the country have warned that the contraception mandate could threaten the valuable contribution offered by Catholic education, health care and social services in the U.S.

Towey also addressed this point, explaining that Ave Maria University offers scholarships and strives to make its education as affordable as possible for students.

“At a time when the issue of the affordability of college education is at the forefront of the public debate, the Federal government’s mandate is hurting the cause, not helping,” he said.