This thread as devolved into conjecture and hersey, period. Most of these stories are just that, stories. Plain and simple. I've heard the story about Bruce Lee being randomly challenged except it would be on the street somewhere, not at his house. This is how "legends" are created, by exaggeration and games of story time telephone, just like the gossip one hears day to day. Change a few facts here, add some other details there and boom, a new "Bruce once chopped a redwood down with his fingers, cause he does finger pushup for 10 hours straight while screaming Waaaaa!" Give me a break, Bruce was great, I admit that, but lets get fucking real.