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Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« on: July 03, 2010, 01:18:48 PM »

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/The-sad-tale-of-Ray-Williams-10-year-NBA-vet-no?urn=nba,253262




Amid the ceaseless acquisitive frenzy that is NBA free agency, the Boston Globe dropped a harrowing profile of Ray Williams, a former captain of the New York Knicks and a reserve guard on the Boston Celtics' 1985 NBA Finals team who played for six teams during a 10-year NBA career from the late '70s through the mid-'80s. Williams' name might not ring out with today's fans, but he averaged 20 points per game in two different seasons (1979-80 and 1981-82), hung 52 on the Detroit Pistons as a member of the New Jersey Nets on April 17, 1982, and once drew (admittedly aspirational) comparisons to the great Walt Frazier.

Now, writes the Globe's Bob Hohler, he's homeless.

Every night at bedtime, former Celtic Ray Williams locks the doors of his home: a broken-down 1992 Buick, rusting on a back street where he ran out of everything.

The 10-year NBA veteran formerly known as "Sugar Ray'' leans back in the driver's seat, drapes his legs over the center console, and rests his head on a pillow of tattered towels. He tunes his boom box to gospel music, closes his eyes, and wonders.
Williams, a generation removed from staying in first-class hotels with Larry Bird and Co. in their drive to the 1985 NBA Finals, mostly wonders how much more he can bear.


The most sobering thing about Hohler's piece? Williams' decline into unemployment, poverty and homelessness appears to have just kind of ... happened.

Williams, a former University of Minnesota standout who averaged 15.5 points and nearly six assists per game during his time in the league, adamantly tells Hohler that he's "never fallen prey to drugs, alcohol, or gambling," and he's never been arrested, so it's not like he's some shiftless sociopath whom we can easily vilify. According to the feature, there wasn't one key traumatic event that keyed Williams' downfall, with one possible exception — already down on his luck, Williams received a grant from the NBA Legends Foundation, which provides need-based assistance to people who have been involved in the pro game. But according to court records, Hohler writes, "he lost the money ... when the widow of a condominium owner who agreed to a lease-to-own contract with Williams opted out of the contract after the owner died." Which sounds like a horrendously bad break that exacerbated an already ugly situation.

It doesn't sound like a case of over-the-top avarice, either; while Hohler notes that Williams was "no longer able to sustain his NBA lifestyle" when he first filed for bankruptcy in 1994, he doesn't mention any particularly conspicuous consumption or extravagant expenditures. As the story goes, Williams just hasn't been able to hang on to any of a slew of off-court jobs over the course of the 23 years since he retired in 1987. Now, he's got nothing except the '92 Buick he sleeps in and a '97 Chevy Tahoe that he can't get out of hock.

There's no prime mover behind the disintegration, no obvious flaw in the system against which to rage. Like any story of slipping through the cracks in American society, that makes it harder to digest, compartmentalize and set aside.

Maybe NBA players of today, who make exponentially more money than their predecessors before ever stepping on the court, do owe a fiscal debt to the players who came before; then again, maybe Williams bears the blame because he blew the roughly $2 million he made in contracts during his career. Maybe Williams' family, former friends and associates merit some scorn for allowing him to live alone in a car in Florida; then again, maybe they've all had to distance themselves from Williams after 20-plus years of never getting his stuff together and failing to repay repeated loans, favors and kindnesses.

Maybe agencies like the Legends Foundation and the NBA Retired Players Association need to do more to help people like Williams; then again, maybe they've already done enough, having given him grants totaling more than $12,000. Maybe his coaches, teachers and mentors failed him, setting him to serve as one more awful example of how, when it comes to young basketball players, the only training and skill development that anybody really cares about takes place on the hardwood. Then again, maybe "Society's to blame" is a red herring that divests the downtrodden of personal responsibility.

Whichever way your sympathies run, the story of how Ray Williams' life fell apart should serve as a cautionary tale for athletes of the imperative to prepare for life after the game — and, frankly, a jarring reminder to all of us that we should appreciate what we're lucky enough to have while we're lucky enough to have it.

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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 01:46:38 PM »
poor fella... but ending up skint and homeless from what must have been a decent amount of money and nice lifestyle when he retired, doesn't 'just happen'  ::)

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 03:11:12 PM »
poor fella... but ending up skint and homeless from what must have been a decent amount of money and nice lifestyle when he retired, doesn't 'just happen'  ::)

i agree, there are millions of people who will never make a "few" million, actually probably over 90% of americans...........but somehow stretch their dollars, budget, and make it work

alot of young black guys are just terrible with money.......they buy and buy, then have a coupel of baby-mama's, then next thing they know they are in the poorhouse

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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 05:50:33 PM »
i agree, there are millions of people who will never make a "few" million, actually probably over 90% of americans...........but somehow stretch their dollars, budget, and make it work

alot of young black guys are just terrible with money.......they buy and buy, then have a coupel of baby-mama's, then next thing they know they are in the poorhouse
Get a few million and how much of that would u keep?  idk about you; but i'd buy my parents a nice warm house in Florida so they can be comfortable, my old man a nicer car for all he's done for us, college funds for my kids( one day), help out my sisters with their student loans, charity.  that's probably already a mil or 2 and i haven't even gotten to myself or investments. granted i have a stable job and an education to fall back on but it's easy to see how this can happen. certainly when a lot of their downfalls are based on bad investments which can happen to anyone

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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 06:02:04 PM »
I read that this morning on Yahoo news...sad!

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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 06:11:20 PM »
The dude is black, never been arrested, 6'10 or whatever.  He could get a job in security, immediately upon asking for it.
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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2010, 06:45:45 PM »
sounds like he's still using

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2010, 06:50:03 PM »
Mike Webster.   :-\

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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 02:29:03 AM »
Black obsession  ::)

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« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 02:40:30 AM »
Black obsession  ::)


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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 02:57:22 AM »
The dude is black, never been arrested, 6'10 or whatever.  He could get a job in security, immediately upon asking for it.

You may be a new gimmick, but this was a good one.

At least if he'd bought his parents a home he'd have a decent place to sleep right now...not hatin' on the '92 Buick, mind you, I'm sure it's a nice ride.


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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2010, 08:38:56 AM »
 :o

$2M over 10 yrs minus taxes...so that's 1.4M?  and he is removed from the game 20yrs or whatever?  this could happen to anyone. that's no money.  you cant compare this guy to Antoine Walker who f##ked up 60$M, could have sit $10M to side and received 400k a yr allowance plus dropped a couple of million to those ole douches at vanguard who would have gotten him 8-11% on that money for another nestegg.  be more creative with blks guys jacking off their money than this post.

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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2010, 08:47:11 AM »
Suprise another broke NBA star :o Seems as a good guy hope he will be ok.

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« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2010, 08:59:23 AM »
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$2M over 10 yrs minus taxes...so that's 1.4M?  and he is removed from the game 20yrs or whatever?  this could happen to anyone. that's no money.  you cant compare this guy to Antoine Walker who f##ked up 60$M, could have sit $10M to side and received 400k a yr allowance plus dropped a couple of million to those ole douches at vanguard who would have gotten him 8-11% on that money for another nestegg.  be more creative with blks guys jacking off their money than this post.

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agree that his money doesn't seem a lot by todays standards... but to say that 2 mil is 'no money' is just laughable  ::)

i'd be set for life with £2,000,000 sterling, even in 'rip off britain'

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« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2010, 09:14:45 AM »
agree that his money doesn't seem a lot by todays standards... but to say that 2 mil is 'no money' is just laughable  ::)

i'd be set for life with £2,000,000 sterling, even in 'rip off britain'

1.4M concentrated down to 10yrs with normal expenses.  then apply to inflation, family, a bad b###h in the wrong marry plus kids and 1 bad invest in some type and that money is f##ked over 35yrs.  either way white or blk...in the nba your lifestyle will change a bit even if you are at the end of the bench clinging to a roster spot.  lets be real.  engineer with 20 yr career could get messed up 1.4M and be broke on that money.  he just doesnt fit the derrick coleman, walker or the other high flying nba-ers.

 ::) - roll your eyes somewhere else.  ;)

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« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2010, 09:53:31 AM »
can't agree.

it's called living within your means and planning ahead. we all have to do, and most of us aren't anywhere near being millionaires.

hell, i bet most here are living wage to wage

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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2010, 11:04:20 AM »
:o

$2M over 10 yrs minus taxes...so that's 1.4M?  and he is removed from the game 20yrs or whatever?  this could happen to anyone. that's no money.  you cant compare this guy to Antoine Walker who f##ked up 60$M, could have sit $10M to side and received 400k a yr allowance plus dropped a couple of million to those ole douches at vanguard who would have gotten him 8-11% on that money for another nestegg.  be more creative with blks guys jacking off their money than this post.

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The guys may be making a lot more today, but they're also spending a lot more.  I won't be all that surprised to see guys who've made $50-100 million wind up broke in a few years. 


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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2010, 11:16:57 AM »
Each night as he reclines his car seat back, he makes a decision to not humble himself and accept a low paying job the next day.... He has to break this cycle.. He needs to realize that he has to help himself... He needs to take a job at burger king or something. Its not going to happen over night. Overcoming this situation will take months. Be patient. Start small, slow but steady.. and build back up slowly over time

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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2010, 11:31:29 AM »
Each night as he reclines his car seat back, he makes a decision to not humble himself and accept a low paying job the next day.... He has to break this cycle.. He needs to realize that he has to help himself... He needs to take a job at burger king or something. Its not going to happen over night. Overcoming this situation will take months. Be patient. Start small, slow but steady.. and build back up slowly over time

A friend of mine was a top prospect in the NFL, went to the combine did well, got drafted, got some pretty good money, couldn't cut it when he got in the NFL after bouncing around a few years in the league is now a cook at IHOP. At least he is still trying to help himself though
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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2010, 11:33:48 AM »
Each night as he reclines his car seat back, he makes a decision to not humble himself and accept a low paying job the next day.... He has to break this cycle.. He needs to realize that he has to help himself... He needs to take a job at burger king or something. Its not going to happen over night. Overcoming this situation will take months. Be patient. Start small, slow but steady.. and build back up slowly over time



as a former NBA player........who presumably has a college education............DON T even tell me there is not jobs available to this guy.....


he could have coached, any highschool or smaller college would LOVE to have a former NBA star as their coach

or he could have run a youth program

or could have used contacts with one of the organizations he played for  to work for the grounds or security




this guy though because he was an NBA player he was above working........he thought he would be lowering himself

that combined with some out0of-his-means spending put him in the poor house



he didn't want to work, there would ahve been TONS of jobs available to him




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Re: Ray Williams: 10-year NBA vet now homeless
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2010, 12:23:43 PM »


as a former NBA player........who presumably has a college education............DON T even tell me there is not jobs available to this guy.....


he could have coached, any highschool or smaller college would LOVE to have a former NBA star as their coach

or he could have run a youth program

or could have used contacts with one of the organizations he played for  to work for the grounds or security




this guy though because he was an NBA player he was above working........he thought he would be lowering himself

that combined with some out0of-his-means spending put him in the poor house



he didn't want to work, there would ahve been TONS of jobs available to him


As someone who seems to regularly meltdown and seemingly comes off as overly sensitive, this is your best post I've seen in some time.