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« Reply #1075 on: June 27, 2013, 09:54:11 PM »
George Takei: A defeat for DOMA — and the end of ‘ick’
By George Takei
George Takei, an actor and activist, played Mr. Sulu on “Star Trek” and is the author of “Oh Myyy!: There Goes the Internet.” Follow him on Twitter: @GeorgeTakei.

Forty-four years nearly to the day after drag queens stood their ground against a police raid on the Stonewall Inn, sparking rioting in New York City and marking the beginning of America’s gay rights movement, our nation’s highest court at last held that a key section of the Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional. Amazingly, since Stonewall, the question of LGBT rights has evolved from whether homosexuals should have any place in our society to whether gay and lesbian couples should be accorded equal marital stature.

Whenever one group discriminates against another — keeping its members out of a club, a public facility or an institution — it often boils down to a visceral, negative response to something unfamiliar. I call this the “ick.” Indeed, the “ick” is often at the base of the politics of exclusion. Just this March, for example, a young woman at an anti-same-sex-marriage rally in Washington was asked to write down, in her own words, why she was there. Her answer: “I can’t see myself being with a woman. Eww.”

Frankly, as a gay man, I can’t see myself being with one, either. But it’s usually not gays who write the laws. If this woman were in Congress, her personal discomfort might infect her thinking — and her lawmaking. Gays kissing?Ick.

The Supreme Court may be the ultimate interpreter of the rules, but it is still the court of public opinion that matters. And public opinion has shifted — 51 percent of Americans now favor same-sex marriage, according to a recent Pew Research Center poll, and 42 percent oppose it. Reflecting this slim majority, Wednesday’s 5 to 4 ruling made clear that “ick” is not a proper basis for constitutional jurisprudence. Justice Anthony Kennedy, in his opinion, warned against this specifically, noting that when “determining whether a law is motived by an improper animus . . . ‘[d]iscriminations of an unusual character’ especially require careful consideration.” Kennedy was not prepared to allow the “ick” to remain law, knowing that the result is often embarrassing when judged by history.

For more than 70 years, I’ve watched the “ick” infect American life in a variety of ways and concluded that it’s little more than a function of unfamiliarity. Once upon a time, you never saw two men kissing — for that, you’d have to visit an adult video store.

Even I was taken aback the first time I saw two men being affectionate in public. The “ick” runs deep, instilling unease even in those for whom an act is natural. When I was a child, I knew that my sexuality was not something I could reveal to others. Later, as a young actor, I knew I could not be open about it without serious consequences for my career. It wasn’t until 2005 — when I was in my late 60s — that I came out.

But the “ick” goes beyond LGBT issues. It once blocked public displays of interracial affection. A white person didn’t kiss a black person on American television until 1968 — on “Star Trek,” when Captain Kirk kissed Lieutenant Uhura. That was quite controversial. Indeed, some two decades before that kiss, when I was growing up in California, it was illegal for Asians and whites to marry.

Now I’m married to a white dude. How times have changed!

Anti-miscegenation laws of the last century were based on appeals to the “natural” order, another way of saying that the alternative is icky. The trial judge in the case Loving v. Virginia , which overturned such laws in 1967 — yes, less than 50 years ago — defended marital segregation. He wrote: “Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”

The Virginia law struck down in Loving was called the Racial Integrity Act. Sound familiar? Kennedy also took note of this naming convention: “The stated purpose of the law was to promote an ‘interest in protecting the traditional moral teachings reflected in heterosexual-only marriage laws.’ Were there any doubt of this far-reaching purpose, the title of the Act confirms it: The Defense of Marriage.” DOMA, like the Racial Integrity Act, by its very name suggests a desire to protect marriage from some kind of social pollution.

To help justify the “ick,” many, like that judge in Loving, turn to the Bible, perhaps because science doesn’t lead to the conclusion that homosexuality is unnatural. As one popular saying goes, homosexuality is found in more than 400 species, but homophobia in only one. But references to the Bible or other religious texts are not a solid footing on which to base notions of traditional marriage. Concerns about the separation of church and state aside, traditional marriage has never been what its homophobic proponents believe. As author Ken O’Neill reminds us, the fact that you can’t sell your daughter for three goats and a cow means we’ve already redefined marriage.

And it is the height of irony that the Mormon Church, once known for its polygamy, bankrolled the anti-gay-marriage Proposition 8 campaign as a champion of traditional marriage.
(The Supreme Court declined to rule on Prop 8, so same-sex marriages in California will continue.)

Marriage wasn’t the only institution attacked by the “ick.” It was used once to justify segregation in the U.S. military. A study of proposed racial integration of the Navy in the 1940s drew conclusions about interracial mixing that sound much like the hand-wringing over gay men in close quarters with straight men during the “don’t ask, don’t tell” era:

“Men on board ship live in particularly close association; in their messes, one man sits beside another; their hammocks or bunks are close together; in their common tasks they work side by side; and in particular tasks such as those of a gun’s crew, they form a closely knit, highly coordinated team. How many white men would choose, of their own accord that their closest associates in sleeping quarters, at mess, and in a gun’s crew should be of another race?”

These words are outrageous today, but only because we no longer react with disgust at the notion of the races working and sleeping side by side. Because social mores change with each generation, the “ick” is not particularly effective at preventing changes to our institutions. Importantly, same-sex marriage is supported by a strong majority of young people: A recent Field Poll in California showed that 78 percent of voters under 39 favor marriage equality.

Future generations will shake their heads at how narrow, fearful and ignorant we sounded today debating DOMA. Happily, the majority of our justices understood this and did not permit the “ick” to stick.

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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1076 on: June 28, 2013, 12:59:02 PM »
George Takei: A defeat for DOMA — and the end of ‘ick’
By George Takei
George Takei, an actor and activist, played Mr. Sulu on “Star Trek” and is the author of “Oh Myyy!: There Goes the Internet.” Follow him on Twitter: @GeorgeTakei.

Forty-four years nearly to the day after drag queens stood their ground against a police raid on the Stonewall Inn, sparking rioting in New York City and marking the beginning of America’s gay rights movement, our nation’s highest court at last held that a key section of the Defense of Marriage Act is unconstitutional. Amazingly, since Stonewall, the question of LGBT rights has evolved from whether homosexuals should have any place in our society to whether gay and lesbian couples should be accorded equal marital stature.

Whenever one group discriminates against another — keeping its members out of a club, a public facility or an institution — it often boils down to a visceral, negative response to something unfamiliar. I call this the “ick.” Indeed, the “ick” is often at the base of the politics of exclusion. Just this March, for example, a young woman at an anti-same-sex-marriage rally in Washington was asked to write down, in her own words, why she was there. Her answer: “I can’t see myself being with a woman. Eww.”

Frankly, as a gay man, I can’t see myself being with one, either. But it’s usually not gays who write the laws. If this woman were in Congress, her personal discomfort might infect her thinking — and her lawmaking. Gays kissing?Ick.

The Supreme Court may be the ultimate interpreter of the rules, but it is still the court of public opinion that matters. And public opinion has shifted — 51 percent of Americans now favor same-sex marriage, according to a recent Pew Research Center poll, and 42 percent oppose it. Reflecting this slim majority, Wednesday’s 5 to 4 ruling made clear that “ick” is not a proper basis for constitutional jurisprudence. Justice Anthony Kennedy, in his opinion, warned against this specifically, noting that when “determining whether a law is motived by an improper animus . . . ‘[d]iscriminations of an unusual character’ especially require careful consideration.” Kennedy was not prepared to allow the “ick” to remain law, knowing that the result is often embarrassing when judged by history.

For more than 70 years, I’ve watched the “ick” infect American life in a variety of ways and concluded that it’s little more than a function of unfamiliarity. Once upon a time, you never saw two men kissing — for that, you’d have to visit an adult video store.

Even I was taken aback the first time I saw two men being affectionate in public. The “ick” runs deep, instilling unease even in those for whom an act is natural. When I was a child, I knew that my sexuality was not something I could reveal to others. Later, as a young actor, I knew I could not be open about it without serious consequences for my career. It wasn’t until 2005 — when I was in my late 60s — that I came out.

But the “ick” goes beyond LGBT issues. It once blocked public displays of interracial affection. A white person didn’t kiss a black person on American television until 1968 — on “Star Trek,” when Captain Kirk kissed Lieutenant Uhura. That was quite controversial. Indeed, some two decades before that kiss, when I was growing up in California, it was illegal for Asians and whites to marry.

Now I’m married to a white dude. How times have changed!

Anti-miscegenation laws of the last century were based on appeals to the “natural” order, another way of saying that the alternative is icky. The trial judge in the case Loving v. Virginia , which overturned such laws in 1967 — yes, less than 50 years ago — defended marital segregation. He wrote: “Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”

The Virginia law struck down in Loving was called the Racial Integrity Act. Sound familiar? Kennedy also took note of this naming convention: “The stated purpose of the law was to promote an ‘interest in protecting the traditional moral teachings reflected in heterosexual-only marriage laws.’ Were there any doubt of this far-reaching purpose, the title of the Act confirms it: The Defense of Marriage.” DOMA, like the Racial Integrity Act, by its very name suggests a desire to protect marriage from some kind of social pollution.

To help justify the “ick,” many, like that judge in Loving, turn to the Bible, perhaps because science doesn’t lead to the conclusion that homosexuality is unnatural. As one popular saying goes, homosexuality is found in more than 400 species, but homophobia in only one. But references to the Bible or other religious texts are not a solid footing on which to base notions of traditional marriage. Concerns about the separation of church and state aside, traditional marriage has never been what its homophobic proponents believe. As author Ken O’Neill reminds us, the fact that you can’t sell your daughter for three goats and a cow means we’ve already redefined marriage.

And it is the height of irony that the Mormon Church, once known for its polygamy, bankrolled the anti-gay-marriage Proposition 8 campaign as a champion of traditional marriage.
(The Supreme Court declined to rule on Prop 8, so same-sex marriages in California will continue.)

Marriage wasn’t the only institution attacked by the “ick.” It was used once to justify segregation in the U.S. military. A study of proposed racial integration of the Navy in the 1940s drew conclusions about interracial mixing that sound much like the hand-wringing over gay men in close quarters with straight men during the “don’t ask, don’t tell” era:

“Men on board ship live in particularly close association; in their messes, one man sits beside another; their hammocks or bunks are close together; in their common tasks they work side by side; and in particular tasks such as those of a gun’s crew, they form a closely knit, highly coordinated team. How many white men would choose, of their own accord that their closest associates in sleeping quarters, at mess, and in a gun’s crew should be of another race?”

These words are outrageous today, but only because we no longer react with disgust at the notion of the races working and sleeping side by side. Because social mores change with each generation, the “ick” is not particularly effective at preventing changes to our institutions. Importantly, same-sex marriage is supported by a strong majority of young people: A recent Field Poll in California showed that 78 percent of voters under 39 favor marriage equality.

Future generations will shake their heads at how narrow, fearful and ignorant we sounded today debating DOMA. Happily, the majority of our justices understood this and did not permit the “ick” to stick.

future generations led into Hell for choosing the gay lifestyle will rue the phaggotry of the majority of "our" justices
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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1077 on: June 28, 2013, 01:06:46 PM »
future generations led into Hell for choosing the gay lifestyle will rue the phaggotry of the majority of "our" justices


No, most of them accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.

So along with other sinners like your self, you will sing hymns in heaven with gays.

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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1078 on: June 28, 2013, 01:07:34 PM »
No, most of them accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.

So along with other sinners like your self, you will sing hymns in heaven with gays.

as long as they repent for it and the Lord has it under the blood, no problem

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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1079 on: June 28, 2013, 01:22:58 PM »
as long as they repent for it and the Lord has it under the blood, no problem



Many Many many gays go to church, they repent for their various vile fornications just like straight adulterers, covet-ers, liars, cheats, porn addicts, drug addicts, gamblers, child abusers, spouse abusers, women with make up, pants, etc. and then they go back and do it all over again.  Its a happy little circle.

 

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« Reply #1080 on: June 28, 2013, 01:26:24 PM »
Many Many many gays go to church, they repent for their various vile fornications just like straight adulterers, covet-ers, liars, cheats, porn addicts, drug addicts, gamblers, child abusers, spouse abusers, women with make up, pants, etc. and then they go back and do it all over again.  Its a happy little circle.

 

happy circle jerk among the queefs

hell bound no true repentance
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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1081 on: June 28, 2013, 01:27:03 PM »
happy circle jerk among the queefs

hell bound no true repentance


Are you trolling chadwick?
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« Reply #1082 on: June 28, 2013, 07:56:31 PM »
Gay marriages resume today in California
By Maura Dolan, Anthony York and Maria LaGanga

SAN FRANCISCO — Same-sex marriages began in California on Friday after a federal appeals court lifted a hold on a 2010 injunction.

The first wedding in San Francisco began at 4:45 p.m. At 4:10 p.m., a cheer went up in the San Francisco City Hall rotunda. Kris Perry and Sandy Stier, one of the two same-sex couples who sued, made their way from the city clerk’s office where they got their marriage license to the marble steps of City Hall, stopping for photographs.

Attorneys said they had no advance word that the 9thCircuit was going to lift the hold on the Proposition 8 ruling.

Speaking during a telephone press conference, Sandy Stier introduced “my beautiful wife” Kris Perry to reporters. They had married earlier at a ceremony in San Francisco City Hall.

“First we went to work, and then we got married,” Stier said. “Today was fantastic day.”

Paul Katami and Jeff Zarrillo, the other plaintiffs in the lawsuit, were married by L.A. Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

Ted Boutrous, one of the lawyers in the federal lawsuit, confirmed that ProtectMarriage, the sponsors of the Proposition 8, still can ask for a rehearing within the 25-day waiting period.  Even though the Supreme Court decision is not technically final, the 9th Circuit was free to lift the hold on the injunction, he said.

He said he has seen federal appeals courts take similar actions in other cases before a Supreme Court decision was technically final.

“It was a great move by the 9th Circuit and totally authorized by the courts rules and the federal rules,” Boutrous said.

Boutrous insisted that the Supreme Court could not issue another stay to stop the marriages and said the legal team was not worried that ProtectMarriage would persuade a state judge or a federal judge to narrow the scope of U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker’s order.

“The federal injunction trumps anything anyone can do it state court,” Boutrous said. “I think it would be frivolous…. They should hang it up and quit trying to stop people from getting married.”

In a surprise action, a federal appeals court cleared the way, bypassing a normal waiting period and lifting a hold on a trial judge’s order that declared Proposition 8 unconstitutional.

The news came in a single, legalistic sentence Friday afternoon from the appeals court.

“The stay in the above matter is dissolved immediately,” the three-judge panel wrote.

Gov. Jerry Brown told county clerks that they could begin marrying same-sex couples immediately, launching plans for ceremonies up and down the state. The same-sex couples who filed the federal lawsuit headed to city halls in Los Angeles and San Francisco to tie the knot, ending their long fight to become legal spouses.

“It couldn’t come a moment too soon,” said Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, who sparked the legal effort for gay marriage in California when he was San Francisco mayor.

“What extraordinary timing, right before [gay] pride weekend,” Newsom said. “All that time, all the struggle and the moment has arrived.”

Supporters of Proposition 8 were furious that the 9th Circuit acted before the normal waiting period. ProtectMarriage, the sponsors of the ballot measure, have 25 days from the ruling to ask for reconsideration.

“It is part and parcel of the utter lawlessness in which this whole case has been prosecuted, said Chapman law professor John Eastman, a supporter of Proposition 8. “Normally courts let the parties kind of pursue their legal remedies before they issue a mandate.”

He said that the 25-day period for asking the Supreme Court to reconsider still applied and that a rehearing, though extremely unlikely, remained a technical possibility . . .  http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-gay-couples-begin-marrying-across-california-20130628,0,3456977.story

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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1083 on: June 28, 2013, 09:15:01 PM »
happy circle jerk among the queefs

hell bound no true repentance


Don't worry, God will punish the sinners by sending a tornado to the Bible belt.  Again.

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« Reply #1084 on: June 29, 2013, 02:46:26 AM »
Don't worry, God will punish the sinners by sending a tornado to the Bible belt.  Again.

wrong, twinkie

He gave you people a chance to repent by sending AIDS

It will only get worse for you people...just because your choices have achieved "legal" status doesn't make them right in His eyes...He will not be mocked...don't mistake His patience for weakness
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« Reply #1085 on: June 29, 2013, 06:53:35 AM »
Bah ha ha ha ha ha :D

Doom is amused.

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« Reply #1086 on: June 29, 2013, 07:06:55 AM »
wrong, twinkie

He gave you people a chance to repent by sending AIDS

It will only get worse for you people...just because your choices have achieved "legal" status doesn't make them right in His eyes...He will not be mocked...don't mistake His patience for weakness


By that retarded logic you can claim that SIDS is a punishment for heteros then.  Of course, how do you explain all the straight people with AIDS?

Too bad all those hurricanes and tornados have been proven to be God's punishment.  even though they only hit the Bible belt.  Just ask the preachers on tv.

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« Reply #1087 on: June 29, 2013, 07:16:07 AM »
wrong, twinkie

He gave you people a chance to repent by sending AIDS

It will only get worse for you people...just because your choices have achieved "legal" status doesn't make them right in His eyes...He will not be mocked...don't mistake His patience for weakness



Lol

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« Reply #1088 on: June 29, 2013, 08:23:09 AM »
By that retarded logic you can claim that SIDS is a punishment for heteros then.  Of course, how do you explain all the straight people with AIDS?

Too bad all those hurricanes and tornados have been proven to be God's punishment.  even though they only hit the Bible belt.  Just ask the preachers on tv.

try to laugh about "retarded logic" as you burn in hell, twinkie

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« Reply #1089 on: June 29, 2013, 08:50:45 AM »
Hell can't be all that bad.. what with all the Christians and Republicans there?

This homo shit really seems to be getting to you.  May I suggest taking advantage of it.  A Russian Groom service perhaps?  Why let females enjoy all the joys and benefits of indentured servitude.

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« Reply #1090 on: June 29, 2013, 08:55:47 AM »
Hell can't be all that bad.. what with all the Christians and Republicans there?

This homo shit really seems to be getting to you.  May I suggest taking advantage of it.  A Russian Groom service perhaps?  Why let females enjoy all the joys and benefits of indentured servitude.

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« Reply #1091 on: June 29, 2013, 12:02:30 PM »
So vile.  So venomous.  So bitchy.... you sure you are not a queer too?

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« Reply #1092 on: June 29, 2013, 12:03:39 PM »
So vile.  So venomous.  So bitchy.... you sure you are not a queer too?

how did your dad answer this question when you asked him?  (assuming he isn't already dead from aids)
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« Reply #1093 on: June 29, 2013, 12:09:54 PM »
He said that yes, you do indeed sound like one of those queer boys.

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« Reply #1094 on: June 29, 2013, 03:18:49 PM »
how did your dad answer this question when you asked him?  (assuming he isn't already dead from aids)



Dude this isn't the G&O.  Why do ya gotta bring the family shit into it.


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« Reply #1095 on: June 29, 2013, 03:28:34 PM »


Dude this isn't the G&O.  Why do ya gotta bring the family shit into it.



have I hurt your feelings   ::)

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« Reply #1096 on: June 29, 2013, 03:36:25 PM »
have I hurt your feelings   ::)




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« Reply #1097 on: June 30, 2013, 06:53:32 AM »
Gay marriage opponents ask court to intervene
By LISA LEFF

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — A wave of weddings were performed in San Francisco City Hall on the heels of the U.S. Supreme Court's historic decisions to restore same-sex marriages to California, as defeated backers of the state's gay marriage ban filed a last-ditch effort to halt the ceremonies.

Less than 24 hours after California started issuing marriage licenses to same gender couples, lawyers for the Arizona-based Alliance Defending Freedom filed an emergency petition to the high court Saturday asking it to halt the weddings on the grounds that its decision was not yet legally final. They claimed the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals acted prematurely and unfairly on Friday when it allowed gay marriage to resume by lifting a hold that had been placed on same sex unions.

The motion was filed as dozens of couples in jeans, shorts, white dresses and the occasional military uniform filled City Hall to obtain marriage licenses. On Friday, 81 same sex couples received marriage licenses.

Although a few clerk's offices around the state stayed open late on Friday, San Francisco, which is holding its annual gay pride celebration this weekend, was the only jurisdiction to hold weekend hours so that same sex couples could take advantage of their newly restored right, Clerk Karen Hong said.

A sign posted on the door of the office where a long line of couples waited to fill out applications listed the price for a license, a ceremony or both above the words "Equality=Priceless."

"We really wanted to make this happen," Hong said, adding that her whole staff and a group of volunteers came into work without having to be asked. "It's spontaneous, which is great in its own way."

The timing couldn't have been better for California National Guard Capt. Michael Potoczniak, 38, and his partner of 10 years, Todd Saunders, 47, of El Cerrito.

Potoczniak, who joined the Guard after the military's ban on openly gay service was repealed almost two years ago, was scheduled to fly out Sunday night for a month of basic training in Texas.

"I woke up this morning, shook him awake and said, 'Let's go,'" said Potoczniak, who chose to get married in his Army uniform. "It's something that people need to see because everyone is so used to uniforms at military weddings."

Also waiting to wed Saturday were Scott Kehoe, 34, and his fiance, Aurelien Bricker, 24. After finding out on Facebook that the city was issuing same sex marriage licenses Friday, the San Francisco couple rushed out to Tiffany's to buy wedding rings.

"We were afraid of further legal challenges in the state," Kehoe said.

The Supreme Court ruled on Wednesday that Proposition 8's backers lacked standing to defend the 2008 law because California's governor and attorney general have declined to defend the ban.

Then on Friday, the 9th Circuit appeared to have removed the last obstacle to making same sex matrimony legal again in California when it removed its hold on a lower court's 2010 order directing state officials to stop enforcing the ban.

Within hours, same sex couples were seeking marriage licenses. The two couples who sued to overturn Proposition 8 were wed in San Francisco and Los Angeles Friday.

Alliance Defending Freedom Senior Counsel Austin Nimocks said on Saturday that the high court's consideration of the case isn't done because his clients still have 22 days to ask the justices to reconsider Wednesday's 5-4 decision.

Under Supreme Court rules, the losing side in a legal dispute has 25 days to request a rehearing. While such requests are almost never granted, the high court said that it wouldn't finalize its judgment in the case at least until after that waiting period elapsed.

The San Francisco-based appeals court had said when it imposed the stay that it would remain in place until the Supreme Court issued its final disposition, according to Nimocks.

"Everyone on all sides of the marriage debate should agree that the legal process must be followed," he said. "On Friday, the 9th Circuit acted contrary to its own order without explanation."

Many legal experts who had anticipated such a last-ditch effort by gay marriage opponents said it was unlikely to succeed because the 9th Circuit has independent authority over its own orders — in this case, its 2010 stay.

While the ban's backers can still ask the Supreme Court for a rehearing, the 25-day waiting period is not binding on lower federal courts, Vikram Amar, a constitutional law professor with the University of California, Davis law school, said.

"As a matter of practice, most lower federal courts wait to act," Amar said. "But there is nothing that limits them from acting sooner. It was within the 9th Circuit's power to do what it did."

The city, home to both a federal trial court that struck down Proposition 8 as unconstitutional and the 9th Circuit, has been the epicenter of the state's gay marriage movement since then-Mayor Gavin Newsom ordered his administration in February 2004 to issue licenses to gay couples in defiance of state law.

A little more than four years later, the California Supreme Court, which is also based in San Francisco, struck down the state's one-man, one-woman marriage laws.

City Hall was the scene of many more marriages in the 4 1/2 months before a coalition of religious conservative groups successfully campaigned for the November 2008 passage of Proposition 8, which amended the state constitution to outlaw same sex marriages.

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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1098 on: June 30, 2013, 08:24:55 AM »

yes, I am hurt




Hurt just a little?  Or ass-on-fire butthurt like Chadwick?

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Re: Supreme Court Affirms Right to Gay Marriage
« Reply #1099 on: June 30, 2013, 08:29:24 AM »

yes, I am hurt




I didn't think these things were allowed on the Politics board?