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I think he would make a terrific President...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cda_1181869054
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When you are in Rome,do what the Romans do.
I hate those foreigners who dont try to learn the language in that country where they live.
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Good for Arnold! I don't agree with a lot of his politics but his point is a very valid and obvious one. Any country in the world that you live in expects you to be able to speak the language if you plan on working and become a citizen there. If you say it here you're considered a racist. Bullshit. The primary language used for communication here is English and the idea of a having a bilingual country because so many illegals feel they have the right to NOT learn the language is fucking nauseating.
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I think he would make a terrific President...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cda_1181869054
Learn englis or English? :-\
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HABLA INGLES, PUTAS! 8)
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When you are in Rome,do what the Romans do.
I hate those foreigners who dont try to learn the language in that country where they live.
Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
Congrats. Dumbest post i've read in a long time.
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
Sorry.Are you new in here. I am a japanese who live in spain and speak spanish all day.
And I am not talking about native. I am talking about official language of that country.
And I am not talking about the real justice or truth but a common sense of now a day.
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first of all the language spoken in usa is called AMERICAN not english and it is very easy to speak and learn,,anyone will understand you as long as you speak somewhat english,,its an international language and in usa it became even easier because of the pop culture who made it an easy to talk and understand kind of english ,,,
so there should be no excuse but to be able to communicate in american english period! learning the words aint and saying she dont insted of doesnt....is not that hard...americans forgive you easily
beside,,, english will be the spoken language everywhere in 10-20years,,it is computer generation and english is a must,,,it doesnt even belong to anyone,,it became a UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE that kids start learning in second grade everywhere in the world,,and also hear it on tv none stop from age zero
obviously if youre spanish you can and should talk spanish to your family in the house,,,but outside,,,comon now get with the times,,,talk american
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I think he would make a terrific President...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cda_1181869054
I wouldnt move to fucking poland without learning polish !! Thats fuckin right
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hahahahahaha, like Arnold is someone to talk and emulate as far as speaking proper English goes, every illegal immigrant mexican i've ever talked to speaks better English than him.
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first of all the language spoken in usa is called AMERICAN not english
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Stick to selling dbol to teenagers, 'gh15'. Americans speak ENGLISH! You spell a couple of words differently [centre - center, colour - color], but the language is still the same. What you would call 'American' is merely the formation of localised colloquialisms that affect any adaptable language over time.
Next time i'll charge you for correcting your mistakes.
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Stick to selling dbol to teenagers, 'gh15'. Americans speak ENGLISH! You spell a couple of words differently [centre - center, colour - color], but the language is still the same. What you would call 'American' is merely the formation of localised colloquialisms that affect any adaptable language over time.
Next time i'll charge you for correcting your mistakes.
I think that's what he was saying...he was subtle...
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I don't think he's that clever.
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
humans invade and conquer, been doing it since the dawn of man.
when said conquerer does this there must be rules put in place and a society created where those who choose to live there should live in harmony with that society and follow their rules and customs. those who choose not to should
FUCK OFF!!!
hope this helps. ;)
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humans invade and conquer, been doing it since the dawn of man.
when said conquerer does this there must be rules put in place and a society created where those who choose to live there should live in harmony with that society and follow their rules and customs. those who choose not to should
FUCK OFF!!!
hope this helps. ;)
hahahahaha, sounds like someone is bitter and angry that mexicans come here and do whatever the fucck they want to do and there's nothing you can do about it.
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hahahahaha, sounds like someone is bitter and angry that mexicans come here and do whatever the fucck they want to do and there's nothing you can do about it.
true ;D
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Good for him. He's propably as sick as I am of the illegals coming up to you or calling you with a question and the first thing out of their mouths is, "Speak Spanish?" NO, dumbass... I speak English... AMERICAN... learn it. ;D Not to say that to be bilingual would be sweet, I wish I did know spanish... but for the illegals not to even try to learn what the national language is just so we change our entire education system to cater to them (teaching us all to speak spanish fluently). Backasswards if you ask me.
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
Somewhat off topic, but being from Canada, I can state unequivocally that natives are the biggest finiancial burden on the our entire country. My, and everyone elses tax dollars go towards supporting a people, who have no ambition to support themselves. They abuse our health care system, as well as other services, but fail to contribute to them. They are offered free college educations and get first preference for Government jobs, which is clearly stated on job postings. Imagine, if in today's society, a job posting stated that white candidates would get first preference! Then, whenever they have any kind of grievance, their first inclination is to block off railways, roadways and cause public distubances, sometimes carrying illegal assault rifles. And getting a free pass, while others in society would be harshly prosecuted for similar actions. This segment of our society also loves to play the race card, but if you ask me, the racism is now against the caucasion population. At one time, there may have been a generation of the Native population that were owed something, but I along with others today owe the current generation nothing. However, the Canadian Government opened the flood gates, and it has gotten too out of hand to put the brakes on now. When you start spoon feeding people, it's unrealistic to suddenly expect them to be self reliant.
And don't even get me started on how the French shove their language up our ass, all the while rejecting the English language. Why the f**ck do I have to have 3 French speaking channels on my cable package?? Where I live, less than 1% of the population is French, but I have to pay for channels I can't even watch. Make the French special order and pay for those channels.
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Well said.
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Somewhat off topic, but being from Canada, I can state unequivocally that natives are the biggest finiancial burden on the our entire country. My, and everyone elses tax dollars go towards supporting a people, who have no ambition to support themselves. They abuse our health care system, as well as other services, but fail to contribute to them. They are offered free college educations and get first preference for Government jobs, which is clearly stated on job postings. Imagine, if in today's society, a job posting stated that white candidates would get first preference! Then, whenever they have any kind of grievance, their first inclination is to block off railways, roadways and cause public distubances, sometimes carrying illegal assault rifles. And getting a free pass, while others in society would be harshly prosecuted for similar actions. This segment of our society also loves to play the race card, but if you ask me, the racism is now against the caucasion population. At one time, there may have been a generation of the Native population that were owed something, but I along with others today owe the current generation nothing. However, the Canadian Government opened the flood gates, and it has gotten too out of hand to put the brakes on now.
which is exactly what happens when you try to make ammends for alleged sins of the past. australia does the same thing with aboriginals and they react the same way, their self esteem and motivation deteriorate further because government agencies keep giving them freebies.
just about every country in the world was invaded at one time or another.
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fuck the cracker bastards, fuck the blacks, fuck the desert nigers, fuck the chinks, fuck wet backs fuck them all. we all have are bad and are good ;D and for da guvenor mother fucker he should learn to speak english.
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
This is a pretty stupid argument relative to the current debate. The issue is practicality, not morality. If in a country of 300 million, 290 million speak a particular language and 10 million don't, it makes a lot more sense for the 10 million to learn the dominant language than it does to expect the 290 million to accomodate them. "Bilingual" nations don't work well, as they embrace no common culture. I don't care if our national language is English, Spanish, or Swahili, but we need to pick ONE and everyone needs to speak it. Obviously, English makes the most sense for this since it has by far the most native speakers.
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I have a lot of respect for people that come to America from foreign lands and go to great lengths to learn the language, work hard, contribute to society, the work force, the technical community, the scientific community and what have you.
My grandparents had to do this and so has every other foreign born US citizen who has ever made anything of him or herself in this country.
The concept of holding these people to their native tongue, offering them schooling, television, etc. in their native tongue is the concept that holds them back. It say to them “you are to stupid to learn a new language”. It does not help them, it hurts them.
Arnold is dead on balls (try to explain that phrase in Spanish) accurate on this one.
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I have a lot of respect for people that come to America from foreign lands and go to great lengths to learn the language, work hard, contribute to society, the work force, the technical community, the scientific community and what have you.
My grandparents had to do this and so has every other foreign born US citizen who has ever made anything of him or herself in this country.
The concept of holding these people to their native tongue, offering them schooling, television, etc. in their native tongue is the concept that holds them back. It say to them “you are to stupid to learn a new language”. It does not help them, it hurts them.
Arnold is dead on balls (try to explain that phrase in Spanish) accurate on this one.
true dat
arnold may not speak very good english or with enough of an american accent but he quickly learnt enough to communicate and understand to such an extent that he was able to become an american movie star, married to one of america's most famous families and become an american politician. he never lived like an austrian immigrant, but adapted 100% to american society.
he is the perfect person to lecture people on this.
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The Requirement for Mexicans to be here should have something to do with nuetering them first. They multiply like rats or roaches and smell like them too. ;D We already have enough ghettos and slum areas, we don't need anymore.
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
Oh brother ::)
No one except for invaders want a bicultural US that speaks spanglish
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Why then are the whites in american not speaking the language of the Native Americans?..You are still none the less an ILLEGAL ALIEN in america and despite the fact that whites have illegally crossed the border into america and have stayed there and bred their does NOT make them LEGAL. Isn't it funny that the same things whites have done is looked upon differently when someone else/race does the same thing?
Hmmmmmm... Here is the solution...EVERYONE OTHER THAN THE NATIVE PEOPLE GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA AND WAIT UNTIL THE NATIVE PEOPLE SET UP SOCIAL SECURIY OFFICES, IMMIGRATION OFFICES, SETUP PASSPORT OFFICES, SETUP GREEN CARD OFFICES AND VISA OFFICES AND THEN THEY CAN DECIDE WHO CAN AND CAN'T RETURN TO AMERICA. NOW THAT IS FAIR...
BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
Not too smart are you? First off...........there are no native Americans there never where any native Americans on this land to begin with. All of the "Indians" on American soil came over here thousands of years ago via the land bridge from Russia to Alaska. The "Native Americans" are actually of Asian decent.
Next lesson, the Mexicans speak "Spanish". Where did this language originate from? Holly shit!!!!Spain!!! The conquring Conquistidor's from Spain forced there lifestyle and Christianity upon the Mayans and spread out through all of Mexico.
Arnold brings a valid point to the table. If you wish to do well in America like any other Nation then learn the language spoken there. You want to play asshole historian with your bullshit Native American theories? The "Native Americans" all speak english and learned it well all while retaining their cultural language spoken on the reservations and within their families.
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haha perfect
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Next lesson, the Mexicans speak "Spanish". Where did this language originate from? Holly shit!!!!Spain!!! The conquring Conquistidor's from Spain forced there lifestyle and Christianity upon the Mayans and spread out through all of Mexico.
excellent point!
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I think many of you have allowed yourselves to be swayed by Arnold's pithy sound byte.
Why the heck should people turn off hispanic TV?
Why would watching hispanic TV and learning to speak English be mutually exclusive? They're not.
How many of you if you moved to Spain or France or Italy, ...would not want to watch American TV while abroad?
Even if you were fluent in the other language, ...I know some of you would still get a hankering for The Sopranos, or an episode of "Lost" every once in a while, ...as well as want to keep track of news, and current events from a land where you still have relatives.
Neither CBS Nightly news nor any of the other "mainstream" stations carry current events programming or regular news content about regions that hispanic TV covers. Hispanic TV is not the problem. It simply serves a market niche that wants a particular content.
Arnold may want full integration into American society & culture, but Hispanic TV is not the barrier that prevents this. Don't fall so easily for convenient scapegoats that come in the form of pithey sound bytes.
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"Why would watching hispanic TV and learning to speak English be mutually exclusive? They're not."
of course they're not. the problem is not hispanic tv in itself and arnold was not alluding to it.
the problem is that many of them speak very little english and, for all intents and purposes, act like their still living in their motherland, but of course i know you know this otherwise you wouldn't have reached for your pathetic comparison to an american VISTING another country.
finally a politician who has the balls to actually say what the problem is and suggest how to fix it :o and, as always, civil libertarians like you sit on their hands and jeer from the sidelines disingenuous pseudo politics.
i believe arnold refers to people like you as 'girly men'. ;D
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"Why would watching hispanic TV and learning to speak English be mutually exclusive? They're not."
of course they're not. the problem is not hispanic tv in itself and arnold was not alluding to it.
No it wasn't an allusion, ...it was a direct statement, thrown out as meat for carniverous xenophobes.
the problem is that many of them speak very little english and, for all intents and purposes, act like their still living in their motherland, but of course i know you know this otherwise you wouldn't have reached for your pathetic comparison to an american VISTING another country.
finally a politician who has the balls to actually say what the problem is and suggest how to fix it :o and, as always, civil libertarians like you sit on their hands and jeer from the sidelines disingenuous pseudo politics.
i believe arnold refers to people like you as 'girly men'. ;D
Actually my comparison was to an American who has "moved", not one VISITING. re-read the comment.
What we have is not a politician with the balls to say what the problem is, ...what we have is a politician who knows how to cater to, if not pander to a segment of his constituency, with sound bytes that mean nothing, and allow people to rant & rave and be lulled into feeling the man in the governor's mansion understands our concerns. Arnold is as republican as they come, ...and if you think he truly objects to the masses of illegal immigrants crossing into California, ...think again. He understands the positive economic impact it has on his state, ...regardless of what he says. Given an opportunity to change it, ...I don't believe he would. Ask him how he feels about blanket amnesty. Better yet, look up his voting record on these matters. That will give you your answer.
What's wrong with being a civil libertarian? It's certainly preferable to being a conformist xenophobic nazi? no?
ps - Arnold refers to people like me as 'girly-girls' 8)
pps - My comments are not simply based on theoretical speculation, but rather observation and experience with decades of multi-cultural TV. It's a relatively recent phenomena in the US compared to Canada where it has been a staple for decades. We have found ethnic language programming has been an extremely helpful bridge towards integration into the contemporary mainstream, and has facilitated cultural understanding and the breaking down of barriers between various groups. It has also helped many newcomers to get a better grasp on learning English as well.
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The Spanish television is an example of the larger problem of not wanting to assimilate. Go to East LA or Phoenix, etc, etc. and you will see how much people do not assimilate. I see people ordering food in line at a burger joint and they can't even say the burger they want or whether they want onions on it. How pathetic is that? It isn't like these people just came across the border and went to order. Insteading of watching Telemundo and the novelas all day long, turn on English television and learn some language or acutally interact and try to speak the language. Make it illegal to have any other language than English in places like supermarkets and see how fast they learn. I don't see Mandarin writing under the English writing in the above mentioned areas. Why is this issue only made a big deal because this particular group thinks they are entitled to something. Learning the language is the way to survive and succeed. I am sure many of these people could get better jobs if they didn't sound illiterate and fresh over the border but they don't and the bleeding hearts want to make us feel guilty.
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Speak English! I speak spanish and some portuguese only when it's too my advantage. The rest of the time I pretend I don't know what they are saying
the only exception I make is with Sign Language. Spanish speakers could CHOOSE to learn english, but no one CHOOSES to be deaf.
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The Spanish television is an example of the larger problem of not wanting to assimilate. Go to East LA or Phoenix, etc, etc. and you will see how much people do not assimilate.
Why would I want to go to East LA? When i lived there, i knew enough to stay either West or North. Even if I got lost, I would make sure my car was pointed either West or North, or both. If worse came to worse, I'd either end up in Malibu or Westlake Village. eitherway that was fine. :P
I see people ordering food in line at a burger joint and they can't even say the burger they want or whether they want onions on it. How pathetic is that?
I would think ordering a burger in a fast food joint is a uniquely North American thing, and is in fact an example of assimilation. The fact that someone would actually eat a dead cow is pathetic enough. :P
It isn't like these people just came across the border and went to order. Insteading of watching Telemundo and the novelas all day long, turn on English television and learn some language or acutally interact and try to speak the language. Make it illegal to have any other language than English in places like supermarkets and see how fast they learn.
Oh brilliant, now you're sounding like the Quebecois, who went so far as to try to make English illegal. Telemundo and novellas are not to blame. They are simply sources of alternative media content that is very much in demand. To refer to them as special treatment or priviledges is a specious argument. I'd hate to see your reaction if NBC Nightly news were to forego news about Capitol Hill in favour of the goings on in the Italian Parliament.
I don't see Mandarin writing under the English writing in the above mentioned areas. Why is this issue only made a big deal because this particular group thinks they are entitled to something.
What is in reality common sense and good business, you see as a special entitlement. Manufacturers put additional languages on their labels to attract new customers. If someone inclined to read labels is unable to read the label, they'll buy a product whose label they can read. I can see why this would stand out for you, however, from my perspective it isn't an issue. I've grown up with bilingual labels all my life, English / French etc. Lately, in the last 10 years, I've seen additional languages added as well. In addition to English, French, and Spanish, Mandarin & Arabic are not unusual texts to see written on labels in my grocery store. The only part that annoys me is when I'm unable to see English on the labels. My favourite bakery / grocery store has a high percentage of products with labels predominantly in Portuguese. These are the exact same products in the large chain stores, by the same manufacturers, ...however the labels are in Portuguese.
Learning the language is the way to survive and succeed. I am sure many of these people could get better jobs if they didn't sound illiterate and fresh over the border but they don't and the bleeding hearts want to make us feel guilty.
Success and survival doesn't require fluency in the predominant language, and those desiring only to survive lack ambition. I don't disagree that fluency in the language of a predominate culture could lead to a better job, and I don't disagree it facilitates the ability to thrive, however, I don't believe alternative language media like Telemundo is to blame.
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Labels on the food are one thing, labels in the store on signs are a problem.
Ordering burgers is something that happens in many other countries. You can do it here, Germany, and yes even Mexico, along with a number of other places. For someone to be incapable of ordering a burger with or without onions and not being able to say whether they want it to go or not is sad.
Sticking strictly to Spanish-speaking media is one of many ways to keep oneself from assimilating and nobody can deny that.
As far as fluency in English being correlated to success, yes there is in this and many other countries in this era. Many people who are not fluent in English, accent or not, are keeping people from becoming more of a success or achieving goals. However, they do not speak the language and it hurts them.
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BTW...Arnie should be the last thing to speak of a person or people not speaking English...he has been in america for decades and that NAZI lover still sounds like he is speaking from a Auschwitz camp....Give me a break
I know, for someone who has been speaking english so long his accent is not too good. I am surprised the man never took speech lessons. I started with them a few years back, and barely have a trace of an accent now when I speak english [or so I like to think ;D] Many people who are not native english speakers talk way better than him.......
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Learn english, fuckers.
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Labels on the food are one thing, labels in the store on signs are a problem.
They're really only a problem if you don't understand them.
Ordering burgers is something that happens in many other countries. You can do it here, Germany, and yes even Mexico, along with a number of other places. For someone to be incapable of ordering a burger with or without onions and not being able to say whether they want it to go or not is sad.
Well wouldn't that be more indicative of a bigger problem than a lack of fluency in english?
Sounds to me more like you saw an idiot, rather than someone who didn't speak english.
Sticking strictly to Spanish-speaking media is one of many ways to keep oneself from assimilating and nobody can deny that.
Who says people stick strickly to Spanish speaking media? I'm sure there are some who may do that, ...however, there are those who stick strictly to FoxNews, and don't watch any of the variety of entertainment programming content available.
As far as fluency in English being correlated to success, yes there is in this and many other countries in this era. Many people who are not fluent in English, accent or not, are keeping people from becoming more of a success or achieving goals. However, they do not speak the language and it hurts them.
I'm not entirely sure of the point you're trying to make here, but if I'm reading you correctly, I think your comment is analogous to saying that Lane Bryant is keeping fat people from losing weight by making clothing in their sizes. I don't agree with that analogy. I don't believe that Hispanic TV keeps people from learning english, and I don't believe that turning it off will help them learn english any faster. Turning it off will simply keep them ignorant about current affairs, current events, and the communities within which they live.
We experienced this same debate about 10 years ago here in Canada, when people wanted to restrict immigration to only those who spoke either one of our 2 official languages. We had too many examples of multi-bazillionaires who came to Canada unable to speak either English or French, many still unable to speak either English or French, who were extremely successful, and whose children & grandchildren have become significant pillars of the community. The contributions of immigrants are far too often discounted and undervalued. The impact often only realized in coming generations
There is no doubt fluency in english goes a long way in North America, however, forcing someone who does not want to learn it, is the equivalent of trying to force someone to get a medical degree, law degree, or an MBA. There is no doubt most get further in life with an MBA, but I'm not about to scapegoat 'The Simpson's' cause Joe lunchbox would rather punch a time clock and dig dirt from under his nails than have a career path filled with MontBlancs & papercuts.