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Title: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: joswift on May 10, 2023, 02:59:19 PM
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Henda on May 10, 2023, 03:03:47 PM
Every one of those protesters deserves savagely beaten perhaps even to death. Fucking useless annoying cunts
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Mayday on May 10, 2023, 04:19:33 PM

Take a step back from whether it’s real or not and just consider how we treat our local areas and our impact.

Our pollution level sucks. A smaller footprint, less waste, less pollution is a good idea IMO. The problem with this message is nobody actually wants to commit to using less, so we have a narrative come along to force the change.

Go back a decade and a young girl in my office talked about recycling and saving the planet. I said nope, people don’t give a shit as a group and nobody will change on their own decision making. She disagreed and said she believes people can make it a better planet……

Fast forward a decade and we have a pandemic, global crisis, war in order to force the this change because just like I said back then, we had a chance to reduce and never did. Now it will be forced and we see everybody kicking and screaming which is ironic given how 99% are apparently’for’ the planet 👀

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: The Scott on May 10, 2023, 04:46:57 PM
Take a step back from whether it’s real or not and just consider how we treat our local areas and our impact.

Our pollution level sucks. A smaller footprint, less waste, less pollution is a good idea IMO. The problem with this message is nobody actually wants to commit to using less, so we have a narrative come along to force the change.

Go back a decade and a young girl in my office talked about recycling and saving the planet. I said nope, people don’t give a shit as a group and nobody will change on their own decision making. She disagreed and said she believes people can make it a better planet……

Fast forward a decade and we have a pandemic, global crisis, war in order to force the this change because just like I said back then, we had a chance to reduce and never did. Now it will be forced and we see everybody kicking and screaming which is ironic given how 99% are apparently’for’ the planet 👀

Go to China where they pollute out their collective ass and murdered all their newborn female babies. 
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IroNat on May 10, 2023, 05:18:57 PM
Good vid, Swifty.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: bigkid on May 10, 2023, 05:22:34 PM
Climate change is an absolute scam.  It's a movement hijacked by anti-capitalists who want to used rationalized demoralization to break you down so when they destroy your quality of life, you'll think you deserve it.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Irongrip400 on May 10, 2023, 05:48:11 PM
I don’t think that we really have anything to do with climate change, just one of earths cycles. But, there’s nothing wrong with wanting to do better and pollute less. I do my fair share of recycling, and have my kids pick up trash at the beach. It’s small stuff that if everybody did, we’d have a much cleaner space.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 05:50:36 PM
Climate change is an absolute scam. 

yup, but look how the sheep follow.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: pamith on May 10, 2023, 05:55:06 PM
Brutal if true
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 06:01:49 PM
people perpetuating the climate change bullshit are banking, look at Al Gore he is worth over $300 million, flying around the world for years in his private jet preaching it.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Lartinos on May 10, 2023, 06:08:37 PM
Mayday is correct IMO that this form of eco-fascism is probably needed on some level because the corporations\gubmint have created monsters with a Bhank like public of degenerates which will destroy anything they can get their hands on.

Of course they are using this first and foremost to consolidate power to enhance their status.

Climate change is indeed a sham in the literal sense and they needed something with a better ring than a depopulation campaign to bring the global head count to their 500 million target.

The first time I can think of eco-fascism being mentioned was in the Unibomber’s manifesto.

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: pamith on May 10, 2023, 06:10:02 PM
people perpetuating the climate change bullshit are banking, look at Al Gore he is worth over $300 million, flying around the world for years in his private jet preaching it.
My nikka
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Fortress on May 10, 2023, 06:14:32 PM
I am very environmentally conscious, but, yeah, the climate-change thing, generally, is another gigantic scam.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 06:37:33 PM
I am very environmentally conscious, but, yeah, the climate-change thing, generally, is another gigantic scam.

how so?
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: OAK on May 10, 2023, 06:48:59 PM
people perpetuating the climate change bullshit are banking, look at Al Gore he is worth over $300 million, flying around the world for years in his private jet preaching it.

 :)
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 06:57:51 PM
didn't Gore also say the polar ice caps would be mostly melted by 2020 or some shit like that? lol
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: OAK on May 10, 2023, 07:14:01 PM
didn't' Gore also say the polar ice caps would be mostly melted by 2020 or some shit like that? lol

I think he said the polar ice caps would be gone by 2013.  ::)

Apparently he's now making a killing off of "renewables". Which is basically burning old wood and releasing even more GHGs into the atmosphere.

He's your classic con man.

 :(
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 07:16:14 PM
He's your classic con man.

yup, all fear mongering which is why history is so important to know.

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Fortress on May 10, 2023, 07:43:42 PM
how so?

My 2013 Jeep Rubicon, bought new, has a mere 60,000 KM on it; I RELIGIOUSLY have recycled since the concept was presented in the mid-eighties with municipal-provided recycling collection boxes (any recyclable food containing items taken or acquired outside the home I bring back with me for proper disposal); I only fly once or twice each year, these to visit with my immediate family who all live in my home city; I am extremely modest in my material pursuits; my condo, while very nice, is of a space reasonably appropriate for an individual (while I can easily afford it, I have no need for the extra space a house provides); I have never littered (and more than once have almost come to blows with slobs witnessed doing so); I do not purchase replacement items until the original item is no longer useable/in working order (TVs, cell phones, clothing, etc.) … You get the point. I’m no saint, but I try.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 07:53:44 PM
My 2013 Jeep Rubicon, bought new, has a mere 60,000 KM on it; I RELIGIOUSLY have recycled since the concept was presented in the mid-eighties with municipal-provided recycling collection boxes (any recyclable food containing items taken or acquired outside the home I bring back with me for proper disposal); I only fly once or twice each year, these to visit with my immediate family who all live in my home city; I am extremely modest in my material pursuits; my condo, while very nice, is of a space reasonably appropriate for an individual (while I can easily afford it, I have no need for the extra space a house provides); I have never littered (and more than once have almost come to blows with slobs witnessed doing so); I do not purchase replacement items until the original item is no longer useable/in working order (TVs, cell phones, clothing, etc.) … You get the point. I’m no saint, but I try.

As long as it makes you feel good, but a waste of your time IMO. I don't litter or any shit like that either, but I don't think twice about recycling, climate change, how often I fly, etc.
It's not my problem to solve, I use what is available and convenient and just live my life. If I have to get an EV down the line then I will, otherwise I prefer my gas engines.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Fortress on May 10, 2023, 07:55:29 PM
As long as it makes you feel good, but a waste of your time IMO. I don't litter or any shit like that either, but I don't think twice about recycling, climate change, how often I fly, etc.
It's not my problem to solve, I use what is available and convenient and just live my life. If I have to get an EV down the line then I will, otherwise I prefer my gas engines.

You asked, I answered.

I am only responsible for myself.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 07:58:11 PM
You asked, I answered.

I am only responsible for myself.

Indeed you did sir and I thank you.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: beakdoctor on May 10, 2023, 08:35:07 PM
Mars went from a green, lush, planet covered in water to a red rock. It must've been all the cars and cows.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 08:50:34 PM
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/china-takes-top-spot-global-refining-capacity-output-lags-us-2023-02-17/
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: tommywishbone on May 10, 2023, 09:55:53 PM
Man made climate change. HAHHAHAHHAHAHHA!
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: mops on May 10, 2023, 11:01:34 PM
Another approach to explain "climate change" is to quite literaly look to the stars..

How much has the Sun influenced Northern Hemisphere temperature trends? An ongoing debate

Updated: Mar 13, 2022

 

Most of the energy in the Earth’s atmosphere comes from the Sun. It has long been recognized that changes in the so-called “total solar irradiance” (TSI), i.e., the amount of energy emitted by the Sun, over the last few centuries, could have contributed substantially to recent climate change. However, this new study found that the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) only considered a small subset of the published TSI datasets when they were assessing the role of the Sun in climate change and that this subset only included “low solar variability” datasets. As a result, the IPCC was premature in ruling out a substantial role for the Sun in recent climate change. 

A new scientific review article has just been published on the role of the Sun in climate change over the last 150 years. It finds that the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) may have been premature in their conclusion that recent climate change is mostly caused by human greenhouse gas emissions.

The paper by 23 experts in the fields of solar physics and of climate science from 14 different countries is published in the peer-reviewed journal, Research in Astronomy and Astrophysics (RAA). The paper, which is the most comprehensive to date, carries out an analysis of the 16 most prominent published solar output datasets, including those used by the IPCC. The researchers compared them to 26 different estimates of Northern Hemisphere temperature trends since the 19th century (sorted into five categories), including the datasets used by the IPCC. They focused on the Northern Hemisphere since the available data for the early 20th century and earlier is much more limited for the Southern Hemisphere, but their results can be generalized for global temperatures.

(https://static.wixstatic.com/media/422599_436d1cbc0efd4987b35b1364c17dbd36~mv2.jpg/v1/fill/w_640,h_568,al_c,q_85,usm_0.66_1.00_0.01,enc_auto/422599_436d1cbc0efd4987b35b1364c17dbd36~mv2.jpg)

Illustration of how simply by using different datasets, scientists can come to completely different conclusions on the so-called “climate change attribution problem”, i.e., what we should attribute the causes of recent climate change to.




The study found that scientists come to opposite conclusions about the causes of recent climate change depending on which datasets they consider. For instance, in the graphs above, the panels on the left lead to the conclusion that global temperature changes since the mid-19th century have been mostly due to human-caused emissions, especially carbon dioxide (CO2), i.e., the conclusion reached by the UN IPCC reports.

In contrast, the panels on the right lead to the exact opposite conclusion, i.e., that the global temperature changes since the mid-19th century have been mostly due to natural cycles, chiefly long-term changes in the energy emitted by the Sun.

Both sets of panels are based on published scientific data, but each uses different datasets and assumptions. On the left, it is assumed that the available temperature records are unaffected by the urban heat island problem, and so all stations are used, whether urban or rural. On the right, only rural stations are used. Meanwhile, on the left, solar output is modelled using the low variability dataset that has been chosen for the IPCC’s upcoming (in 2021/2022) 6th Assessment Reports. This implies zero contribution from natural factors to the long-term warming. On the right, solar output is modelled using a high variability dataset used by the team in charge of NASA’s ACRIM sun-monitoring satellites. This implies that most, if not all, of the long-term temperature changes are due to natural factors.

Dr. Ronan Connolly, lead author of the study, at the Center for Environmental Research and Earth Sciences (CERES):

The IPCC is mandated to find a consensus on the causes of climate change. I understand the political usefulness of having a consensus view in that it makes things easier for politicians. However, science doesn’t work by consensus. In fact, science thrives best when scientists are allowed to disagree with each other and to investigate the various reasons for disagreement. I fear that by effectively only considering the datasets and studies that support their chosen narrative, the IPCC have seriously hampered scientific progress into genuinely understanding the causes of recent and future climate change. I am particularly disturbed by their inability to satisfactorily explain the rural temperature trends.”

The 68 page review (18 figures, 2 tables and 544 references) explicitly avoided the IPCC’s consensus-driven approach in that the authors agreed to emphasize where dissenting scientific opinions exist as well as where there is scientific agreement. Indeed, each of the co-authors has different scientific opinions on many of the issues discussed, but they agreed for this paper to fairly present the competing arguments among the scientific community for each of these issues, and let the reader make up their own mind. Several co-authors spoke of how this process of objectively reviewing the pros and cons of competing scientific arguments for the paper has given them fresh ideas for their own future research. The authors also spoke of how the IPCC reports would have more scientific validity if the IPCC started to adopt this non-consensus driven approach.





https://www.ceres-science.com/post/how-much-has-the-sun-influenced-northern-hemisphere-temperature-trends-an-ongoing-debate

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1674-4527/21/6/131
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 10, 2023, 11:27:29 PM
no thanks.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 11, 2023, 12:31:16 AM
Imagine that! The Sun has the largest impact of the temperature on Earth.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Mayday on May 11, 2023, 12:32:00 AM
Go to China where they pollute out their collective ass and murdered all their newborn female babies.

You do realise the West offshored our pollution to China yeah?

Look at any product tag in your house and what will 95% of them say? ‘Made in China’.

The fallacy is people in the west think because they see no evil they do no evil.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 11, 2023, 12:42:04 AM
You do realise the West offshored our pollution to China yeah?

Look at any product tag in your house and what will 95% of them say? ‘Made in China’.

The fallacy is people in the west think because they see no evil they do no evil.
People can ignore the child labor abuses as well.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: kreator on May 11, 2023, 01:29:58 AM
same scam as c0vid hahahaha
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: SF1900 on May 11, 2023, 03:15:01 AM
If someone is caught littering, they should receive 25 years in prison.

Utterly disgusting behavior.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on May 11, 2023, 03:25:31 AM

"Climate change"   ::) ::)

HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Sheep / Morons...  ::)
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Dokey111 on May 11, 2023, 05:46:23 AM
Imagine that! The Sun has the largest impact of the temperature on Earth.

Right?  I always thought it was human ideologies.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: mryorkielover on May 11, 2023, 11:15:01 AM
People love to lump in pollution with "climate change". Yes, we can stop polluting this world and make it better. No, we cannot change how climate affects our planet. This planet has been going through cycles and changing for thousands of years before mankind was here and will continue to do so long after we are gone. Don't worry about the planet, it will be fine.  Worry about the humans who will delete themselves out of existence.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: obsidian on May 11, 2023, 12:21:43 PM
The Earth's climate has always changed. That's what the Earth does. Earth could have ended up like Venus, its sister planet. If you were transported to Venus' surface you'd vaporize in short order. People don't realize how lucky we are to have a planet we can live on. If you were transported to Earth 1-2 billion years ago you'd probably not survive very long.

The Gas Percentages of Earth's Early Atmosphere
Constant volcanic eruptions suggested that Earth's atmosphere was mainly carbon dioxide, with some water vapour and small amounts of nitrogen. Methane and ammonia were present in trace amounts. Oxygen was most likely absent entirely.

https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanations/combined-science/synergy/evolution-of-the-atmosphere/#:~:text=The%20Gas%20Percentages%20of%20Earth's%20Early%20Atmosphere,-It's%20impossible%20to&text=Constant%20volcanic%20eruptions%20suggested%20that,was%20most%20likely%20absent%20entirely.

2.7 billion years ago: Algae evolved. Atmospheric carbon dioxide decreased, replaced by oxygen.
1.8 billion years ago: The first eukaryotes evolved. These organisms are more complex than bacteria.
800 million years ago: The first simple animals evolved.
540 million years ago: Increased oxygen levels enabled rapid animal evolution. This period is known as the Cambrian Explosion.
200,000 years ago: Homo sapiens (modern humans) evolved on the continent of Africa.
200 years ago: Industrialisation began affecting the Earth's atmospheric composition and climate.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2023, 12:29:08 PM
People love to lump in pollution with "climate change". Yes, we can stop polluting this world and make it better. No, we cannot change how climate affects our planet. This planet has been going through cycles and changing for thousands of years before mankind was here and will continue to do so long after we are gone. Don't worry about the planet, it will be fine.  Worry about the humans who will delete themselves out of existence.

^this
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: residue on May 11, 2023, 12:32:23 PM
If someone is caught littering, they should receive 25 years in prison.

Utterly disgusting behavior.


public lashing like singapore, i'm so onboard for that
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2023, 12:40:30 PM
25 years in prison for littering, so our police and courts can be tied up with litter bugs, and not fight real crime. #Genius
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IronMagazine.com on May 11, 2023, 01:21:01 PM
another billionaire climate change hypocrite getting off of his private jet.

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: joswift on May 11, 2023, 01:24:55 PM
we are a solar flare away from extinction...
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on May 11, 2023, 11:44:22 PM
we are a solar flare away from extinction...
Women and minorities most effected.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 18, 2024, 01:26:35 AM
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Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: falco on April 18, 2024, 03:00:01 AM
Pretty basic stuff that helps clarify latest climate variations.

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Marvin Martian on April 18, 2024, 03:56:15 AM
If someone is caught littering, they should receive 25 years in prison.

Utterly disgusting behavior.

I agree and it my opinion on littering has nothing to do with climate change at all.i know not everyone lives like me (my house is damn near sterile it’s so clean) and i know that my wife and I may be too OCD, but people just throwing shit out their car window or on the ground as they walk makes me want to beat them to a bloody pulp. Would they just throw shit on the floor in their home, or in their yard?
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: loco on April 18, 2024, 04:03:58 AM
Plastic recycling is yet another scam:

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IroNat on April 18, 2024, 04:44:53 AM
Plastic recycling is yet another scam:


Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: loco on April 18, 2024, 05:05:32 AM


 :D
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Tapeworm on April 18, 2024, 05:37:33 AM
I'm gluing myself to this thread.

STOP OIL NOW!!!
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 18, 2024, 07:10:21 AM
Remember the big lie. If we don't do something the sea water will rise destroying the planet. Yet, Obama and Biden live on ocean front property.  They don't have any fear of rising sea water. If that lie was true banks world wide wouldn't give 30 year mortgages to people that wanted to buy ocean front property. 

If we did absolutely nothing there would be no changes in 100 years due to cars and power plants that would effect our life style.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: loco on April 18, 2024, 07:10:42 AM
Internet data centers are fueling drive to old power source: Coal

"There, massive data centers with computers processing nearly 70 percent of global digital traffic are gobbling up electricity at a rate officials overseeing the power grid say is unsustainable unless two things happen: Several hundred miles of new transmission lines must be built, slicing through neighborhoods and farms in Virginia and three neighboring states. And antiquated coal-powered electricity plants that had been scheduled to go offline will need to keep running to fuel the increasing need for more power, undermining clean energy goals."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/internet-data-centers-fueling-drive-150206807.html
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IroNat on April 18, 2024, 09:06:21 AM
Remember the big lie. If we don't do something the sea water will rise destroying the planet. Yet, Obama and Biden live on ocean front property.  They don't have any fear of rising sea water. If that lie was true banks world wide wouldn't give 30 year mortgages to people that wanted to buy ocean front property. 

If we did absolutely nothing there would be no changes in 100 years due to cars and power plants that would effect our life style.

Some legit points here.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Amerian Muscle on April 18, 2024, 12:37:13 PM
Just read this paper

https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/printable-2023-02-23-E-Challenging-Net-Zero-with-Science.pdf
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Mayday on April 18, 2024, 01:02:01 PM
The Western world is currently creating the 2nd material shortage. this is the one that will really hurt. cars will go +40% from here, huge EV shortages.

Free trade agreements with Asia will go and tariffs come back into plag. This one is a no brainer that i had back in 2020 ti olay out before 2030.

future solar panel shortages opens the door to regulation of personal energy production. it's not retrospective so anyone like me who has the maximum allowed for residential prior to regulation  (i have 40kw) keeps what they have meanwhile new installs get capped at 15kw.  This is bigger than 99% realise.


Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 18, 2024, 03:51:10 PM
Imagine owning a house and in under 10 years Democrats mandate you have to convert your house to electric heat, water heater, dryer and stove. Then the mandate will be mandatory solar panels. Too top it off the only cars you will be able to buy are electric. Buying two electric cars and all the rest will cost you 200k. If you don't comply the equity in your house will gone when you sell. Those renting will see soaring rents as apartment buildings will have to comply too with car chargers thrown in for each apartment.

China will laugh all the way to the bank producing wind mills, car batteries, solar panels, electric stoves, dryers, heaters and the rest made in factories powered by coal power plants. Taxes will soar as the US electric grid will have to be completely redone to handle the load and power plants will explode in numbers trying to power the electric need.

Meanwhile the scam of climate change will have no impact because of all of this and the US economy will be destroyed. The first power outage in winter states will result in 50K worth of plumbing damage as pipes freeze.  Everything we buy will be off the charts higher with electric trucks that can't function like diesel trucks. 
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 18, 2024, 04:01:52 PM
What I don't understand is how you guys are so confident of your position on climate change? Of course there can be conspiracies and of course people can lie, but how can a layman judge one way or another? To me the science must be very complex and you'd need a really outsized IQ as well as education to even begin to consider the arguments. People are so sure about everything, the more stupid someone is usually the more sure he is. It's especially ridiculous when some nobody lectures a real scientist on science. Arrogant and stupid lol.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: a_pupil on April 18, 2024, 04:16:06 PM
Weather is certainly getting milder in the UK compared to when I was a kid.

We used to go to school in knee deep snow, while nowadays they shut the schools down the moment a few flakes fall lol.

I don't think humans can do anything to change it at this point.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: J. Richards on April 18, 2024, 04:30:32 PM
Every one of those protesters deserves savagely beaten perhaps even to death. Fucking useless annoying cunts

smaller carbon footprint without them...  wonder if they've thought of that...  how far would they go for their "cause" ?   ;D
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 19, 2024, 12:26:57 AM
Imagine owning a house and in under 10 years Democrats mandate you have to convert your house to electric heat, water heater, dryer and stove. Then the mandate will be mandatory solar panels. Too top it off the only cars you will be able to buy are electric. Buying two electric cars and all the rest will cost you 200k. If you don't comply the equity in your house will gone when you sell. Those renting will see soaring rents as apartment buildings will have to comply too with car chargers thrown in for each apartment.

China will laugh all the way to the bank producing wind mills, car batteries, solar panels, electric stoves, dryers, heaters and the rest made in factories powered by coal power plants. Taxes will soar as the US electric grid will have to be completely redone to handle the load and power plants will explode trying to power the electric need.

Meanwhile the scam of climate change will have no impact because of all of this and the US economy will be destroyed. The first power outage in winter states will result in 50K worth of plumbing damage as pipes freeze.  Everything we buy will be off the charts higher with electric trucks that can't function like diesel trucks.
They think the climate will be saved just by the White countries obeying these stupid rules. China, India, Brazil, etc, have no intention of saving the planet.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 19, 2024, 01:26:20 AM
"Climate change"  ::)

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: pamith on April 19, 2024, 01:52:15 AM
Climate change is a hoax!
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: _bruce_ on April 19, 2024, 02:06:51 AM
They think the climate will be saved just by the White countries obeying these stupid rules. China, India, Brazil, etc, have no intention of saving the planet.

Exactly it's a scam to ruin the remaining wealth of the West.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Marvin Martian on April 19, 2024, 03:50:03 AM
What I don't understand is how you guys are so confident of your position on climate change? Of course there can be conspiracies and of course people can lie, but how can a layman judge one way or another? To me the science must be very complex and you'd need a really outsized IQ as well as education to even begin to consider the arguments. People are so sure about everything, the more stupid someone is usually the more sure he is. It's especially ridiculous when some nobody lectures a real scientist on science. Arrogant and stupid lol.

Like all the “science” behind the Covid vaccine?? Was is stupid for “nobody’s” to “do their own research” and realize what a complete SCAM the vax was / is?
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: OAK on April 19, 2024, 08:35:33 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: The Scott on April 19, 2024, 08:37:36 AM
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FUQUE  YOU  TO  HADES  OAK!
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: IroNat on April 19, 2024, 08:58:36 AM
Imagine owning a house and in under 10 years Democrats mandate you have to convert your house to electric heat, water heater, dryer and stove. Then the mandate will be mandatory solar panels. Too top it off the only cars you will be able to buy are electric. Buying two electric cars and all the rest will cost you 200k. If you don't comply the equity in your house will gone when you sell. Those renting will see soaring rents as apartment buildings will have to comply too with car chargers thrown in for each apartment.

China will laugh all the way to the bank producing wind mills, car batteries, solar panels, electric stoves, dryers, heaters and the rest made in factories powered by coal power plants. Taxes will soar as the US electric grid will have to be completely redone to handle the load and power plants will explode trying to power the electric need.

Meanwhile the scam of climate change will have no impact because of all of this and the US economy will be destroyed. The first power outage in winter states will result in 50K worth of plumbing damage as pipes freeze.  Everything we buy will be off the charts higher with electric trucks that can't function like diesel trucks. 

Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: MajorDomo on April 19, 2024, 09:29:09 AM
What I don't understand is how you guys are so confident of your position on climate change? Of course there can be conspiracies and of course people can lie, but how can a layman judge one way or another? To me the science must be very complex and you'd need a really outsized IQ as well as education to even begin to consider the arguments. People are so sure about everything, the more stupid someone is usually the more sure he is. It's especially ridiculous when some nobody lectures a real scientist on science. Arrogant and stupid lol.

Actually no. "Scientists" are just as full of shit as laymen when it comes to anything outside their field of research- and many times they live in such a fucking bubble that they are clueless. I was in grad school for a PhD in organic chemistry but eventually quit when I realized it was essentially prolonged adolescence.

The typical university researcher lives off the grant tit for as long as possible. You can get them to come up with any conclusion as long as you give them enough money. Hell - during Covid many medical researchers toed the party line because they were in fear of losing their funding.

The absolute best raw research comes from internal R&D groups at corporations that never publish their findings. The shit HAS to be real or else it can't be used. Bell Labs at one time was the greatest research institution on earth and it was all private.  Arno Penzias won the Nobel Prize while working at Bell for something he accidentally discovered in the course of his day to day activities.

I worked at both Xerox and then IBM corporate research facilities- the people there were definitely world class- but you'll never hear about them because of confidentiality.

Climate change will go down as one one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the world.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 19, 2024, 09:49:15 AM
Actually no. "Scientists" are just as full of shit as laymen when it comes to anything outside their field of research- and many times they live in such a fucking bubble that they are clueless. I was in grad school for a PhD in organic chemistry but eventually quit when I realized it was essentially prolonged adolescence.

The typical university researcher lives off the grant tit for as long as possible. You can get them to come up with any conclusion as long as you give them enough money. Hell - during Covid many medical researchers toed the party line because they were in fear of losing their funding.

The absolute best raw research comes from internal R&D groups at corporations that never publish their findings. The shit HAS to be real or else it can't be used. Bell Labs at one time was the greatest research institution on earth and it was all private.  Arno Penzias won the Nobel Prize while working at Bell for something he accidentally discovered in the course of his day to day activities.

I worked at both Xerox and then IBM corporate research facilities- the people there were definitely world class- but you'll never hear about them because of confidentiality.

Climate change will go down as one one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the world.

So any high school dropout is just as qualified to debunk climate change or the vaxx or 9/11 or what have you, and specialised knowledge is worth exactly nothing?

We defer to "experts" on a number of subjects because even if we have some specilised knowledge on one subject we can't be experts at everything.

I maintain that the average getbigger is a complete dumbass on most subjects, and I count myself among them.

Like all the “science” behind the Covid vaccine?? Was is stupid for “nobody’s” to “do their own research” and realize what a complete SCAM the vax was / is?

Yes most vaxx fanatics are dumbasses. You know well what kind of "research" most do, it's google and reading links someone sent them on social media. They have no ability to verify the validity.

This does not mean there are no valid criticisms, I have not taken the vaxx myself for example.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 19, 2024, 09:50:13 AM

Climate change will go down as one one of the biggest farces ever perpetrated on the world.


Like every demturd initiative. Pregnant men, killer "vax", fake-racism, LMNOP, Uke, China-Joe, kid-sniffing, cannibals, dead Beau, etc..

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha "Dead Beau"...  :D
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: joswift on April 19, 2024, 09:51:56 AM
So any high school dropout is just as qualified to debunk climate change or the vaxx or 9/11 or what have you, and specialised knowledge is worth exactly nothing?

We defer to "experts" on a number of subjects because even if we have some specilised knowledge on one subject we can't be experts at everything.

I maintain that the average getbigger is a complete dumbass on most subjects, and I count myself among them.

You dont have to have letters after your name to make you right.
A high school drop out is just as "right" as long as his argument is sound and reasoning valid.

Some "scientists" believe there are more than two genders
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 19, 2024, 11:00:50 AM
You dont have to have letters after your name to make you right.
A high school drop out is just as "right" as long as his argument is sound and reasoning valid.

Some "scientists" believe there are more than two genders

I know what you mean. But there is something to this thing they call science. Many things are politicised for sure. Just recently they released unredacted emails between Fauci and other scientists which showed, if we believe they were sincere in their private communications, that they did NOT know if the virus came from a lab but they still approved of some reserch paper where it was argued that "natural origins" was the most plausible explanation... so politics most probably affected this. But all these CTs have argued that they KNOW the vaxx contains nanorobots, the mark of the beast as profesied in the bible. Zillotch here on GB KNEW, a couple of years ago, that 50% of vaxx takers would be dead by now. I told him well let's see in a while and here we are.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Mayday on April 19, 2024, 01:07:54 PM
Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.

There is a huge scare campaign on EVs down here in the media. People parrot the same message as the media which is how it goes viral.

Meanwhile the world’s best selling car is an EV.

There is a copper and tin shortage bubbling away in the background. The ME potential war means a +50% fuel price likely in the next year. Both will lead to a supply crunch on EVs.

Yes there are manufacturers pulling back from EVs, do you know why? Because theirs aren’t selling meanwhile other brands are. Who do you think is pushing the scare campaign?

In 2025 most EVs will come out supporting biodirectional charging. This means your home solar charges your car with the excess solar and when the house needs to pull energy from the grid it will pull it from the car instead. One can be completely off grid.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: BEEFCAKE on April 19, 2024, 01:28:11 PM
There is a huge scare campaign on EVs down here in the media. People parrot the same message as the media which is how it goes viral.

Meanwhile the world’s best selling car is an EV.

There is a copper and tin shortage bubbling away in the background. The ME potential war means a +50% fuel price likely in the next year. Both will lead to a supply crunch on EVs.

Yes there are manufacturers pulling back from EVs, do you know why? Because theirs aren’t selling meanwhile other brands are. Who do you think is pushing the scare campaign?

In 2025 most EVs will come out supporting biodirectional charging. This means your home solar charges your car with the excess solar and when the house needs to pull energy from the grid it will pull it from the car instead. One can be completely off grid.

all of your little EV fantasy's are never happening, you are going to end up in a mud hut eating bugs with the rest of us , just watch
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 20, 2024, 12:42:53 AM
Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.
Tesla wouldn't be in business now if it weren't for government funding.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 20, 2024, 05:25:25 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2023-china-ev-graveyards/



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Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 20, 2024, 05:29:34 AM
(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D5612AQHOitMqiJObmw/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/0/1685927244403?e=1718841600&v=beta&t=bKWm6rXWLIz_qrTkf_P2e5eCh9dU2VBO0gDOMgTT438)

The Need for Strict Recycling Procedures for Electric Vehicle Batteries,
and Their Potential Environmental Effects
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 20, 2024, 05:55:34 AM
Those are predictions but they won't happen.

Hardly any future predictions ever come to pass.

GM and Ford are already backing away from making EVs.

Car lots are full of EVs that nobody wants.

Tesla will be out of the car business in a few years.

Cali has so much excess solar being produced they are throwing it away and cutting subsidies.  Without the subsidies no one will make the losing investment in solar panels.

Huge money is still going to be made selling ice to the eskimos though.

New Jersey and California both agree 2035 will be the last year you can buy a new gas car in their respective states. If they are willing to take that extreme measure forcing you to covert your house before selling it won't be far behind.

Want to stop the climate change madness? Vote Republican or pay the price. We already spent a trillion in electronically printed money in the infrastructure bill with just a few car charging sites built and no improvement to the grids. Where's the money? If it all went to road repair and money laundering we were sold a lie about having government car chargers everywhere.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: loco on April 20, 2024, 06:05:18 AM
(https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D5612AQHOitMqiJObmw/article-cover_image-shrink_720_1280/0/1685927244403?e=1718841600&v=beta&t=bKWm6rXWLIz_qrTkf_P2e5eCh9dU2VBO0gDOMgTT438)

The Need for Strict Recycling Procedures for Electric Vehicle Batteries,
and Their Potential Environmental Effects


Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills

"Companies are searching for ways to deal with the tens of thousands of blades that have reached the end of their lives."

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 20, 2024, 07:07:23 AM
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Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 20, 2024, 07:08:01 AM
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Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: bhank on April 20, 2024, 07:11:50 AM
The only thing we can guaranty is change. That doesn't mean we are the only variable. However personally I could do with less smog and cleaner water. I wouldn't mind them using less chemicals in farming operations. I don't think microplastics are meant to be in our digestive tracts. Having 1k plus nuclear test that released radiation into our atmosphere was probably a bad idea. Treating the Earth better is not a bad idea.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: loco on April 20, 2024, 07:25:07 AM
I don't think microplastics are meant to be in our digestive tracts.

Libtards said decades ago we must replace paper with plastic in order to save trees and the planet.  Plastic manufacturers are still saying that today.  Paper is highly and cheaply recyclable, but plastic isn't.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed6XMiYUYAAr0Vz.jpg)
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: _bruce_ on April 20, 2024, 09:09:20 AM
New Jersey and California both agree 2035 will be the last year you can buy a new gas car in their respective states. If they are willing to take that extreme measure forcing you to covert your house before selling it won't be far behind.

Want to stop the climate change madness? Vote Republican or pay the price. We already spent a trillion in electronically printed money in the infrastructure bill with just a few car charging sites built and no improvement to the grids. Where's the money? If it all went to road repair and money laundering we were sold a lie about having government car chargers everywhere.

How will Republicans be able to stop this - there's big money behind the eco-scam that's been played for decades...
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 20, 2024, 09:31:06 AM
Libtards said decades ago we must replace paper with plastic in order to save trees and the planet.  Plastic manufacturers are still saying that today.  Paper is highly and cheaply recyclable, but plastic isn't.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ed6XMiYUYAAr0Vz.jpg)

Here in Sweden a plastic bag at the grocery store cost like 200% more than a paper bag. They are so expensive now I use the reusable bags, a buck per plastic bag is too expensive and I got a lot of comments on why I just kept buying the expensive bags for the longest time, I was wasteful, of my own expenses :D

And WHY is that US grocery bags come with no handles?  ???
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: BB on April 20, 2024, 09:59:12 AM

And WHY is that US grocery bags come with no handles?  ???

Light things, we usually just roll the top -

(https://www.monouso-direct.com/11090-home_default/paper-bag-without-handle-kraft-75g-m-3018x43cm-25-units.jpg).

Heavier things were standard plastic bags with punched handles, or the same plastic bag with a paper bag inside -

(https://bostonglobe-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/mH70RnVHqNYNJCaGHS6vK1_BQXI=/506x0/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/bostonglobe/6DL375QCHG6HAT2DAOQ4IX3OFI.jpg).

Now it's usually these or the cloth bags -

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Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 20, 2024, 11:11:58 AM
Thanks BB. We have those paper bags at the bottom and they are really trying to discourage the use of plastics which is why they cost triple. I use reusable ones, either cloth or sturdier plastic bags.

Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: joswift on April 20, 2024, 11:26:36 AM
I never buy bags, I leave the shop like this
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Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: BB on April 20, 2024, 11:53:31 AM
Thanks BB. We have those paper bags at the bottom and they are really trying to discourage the use of plastics which is why they cost triple. I use reusable ones, either cloth or sturdier plastic bags.

It's similar in most of the US. Fees for the plastic bags, usually  $.25 or so, smaller fees for paper, etc.... The reusable ones run $ .50 - 3.00 usually depending on size and fanciness. Some of the more liberal areas have bans on plastic utensils, etc.... in take-out orders, you have to request they add forks, straws, and that sorta thing.

In the more hood areas, they sometimes bake the fees into the final cost of everything because they don't want fights, etc....
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Van_Bilderass on April 20, 2024, 11:53:47 AM
I never buy bags, I leave the shop like this
(https://media.tenor.com/yYB-UscMwg8AAAAM/oranges-monkey.gif)

I have a friend who is so cheap he actually carries his stuff like this. Or alternately he goes to bag his groceries but then tells the clerk he forgot the bag so he gets it for free if there is a line waiting  :D
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: loco on April 20, 2024, 03:19:20 PM
I never buy bags, I leave the shop like this
(https://media.tenor.com/yYB-UscMwg8AAAAM/oranges-monkey.gif)

 :D

(https://i.chzbgr.com/original/9051769344/h1D5AAE64/with-lots-of-muscles-has-all-the-groceries-in-his-arms-and-one-bag-clenched-between-his-butt-cheeks)
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Rambone on April 20, 2024, 03:31:26 PM
I get culture shock going to other grocery stores outside of Florida. No plastic bags? Bring my own bags from home? What the fuck?
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: BEEFCAKE on April 20, 2024, 03:46:43 PM
the whole point of ditching the plastic bags has nothing to do about helping the environment, the establishment wants you to have nothing and be happy , raising the prices of groceries and at the same time making them more difficult to get home  is a 2 part attack,they want you taking home as little as possible,  its simply an exercise to train the pleebs to "accept less" and be happy with it.....
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Lartinos on April 20, 2024, 05:03:48 PM
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jordan-b-peterson-podcast/id1184022695?i=1000652187089
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Humble Narcissist on April 21, 2024, 12:14:06 AM
the whole point of ditching the plastic bags has nothing to do about helping the environment, the establishment wants you to have nothing and be happy , raising the prices of groceries and at the same time making them more difficult to get home  is a 2 part attack,they want you taking home as little as possible,  its simply an exercise to train the pleebs to "accept less" and be happy with it.....
Unfortunately, the fat pigs will never accept less.
Title: Re: Climate Change debunked.
Post by: Gym Rat on April 22, 2024, 02:03:31 PM
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