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I try to fast one day a week, usually Mondays. I like the way it makes me feel, it has health benefits associated with it, and it helps with fat loss....also, it's one less day a week that I need to worry about cooking/cleaning/eating.
I'd recommend giving it a try, although dealing with the hunger can be difficult for those not used to it. Once you get through the initial hunger pangs, around noon or so, you'll find that you have a great energetic sensation and you'll feel "light" on your feet....this feeling is probably the main reason I do it, it's like a natural high.
Share YOUR experiences with fasting itt
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You are a dumbfuck hope that helps.
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I always fast between meals.
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You are a dumbfuck hope that helps.
your gay lol XD
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It's true about the high.
The purest and cheapest high there is with no crash :)
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I always fast between meals.
Beat me too it..fuck :D
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Fasting is like dancing, only women and homosexuals perform that act.
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I fart... a lot.
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I prefer to slow
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I like to do intermittent fasting but I haven't been as strict as I like to be. I normally have a small meal at work like oatmeal, but do the majority of my eating in the evening after the gym. If I can go the day without eating until evening I shred up quickly.
Just picked up some free metformin. Cleaning up my eating first, then going to start committing to fasting hard again. I'll be taking time off work for paternity so I'll be active all day (versus sitting in an office) which will make things much easier. When you're stressed and sit all day it's so easy to get hungry and turn to food.
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Excellent post virgin. I've been doing some fasting ever since reading gal and no ones book.
For me I have found that to do a 24 hour fast it's best to eat a meal late afternoon or normal dinner time lets say 6:00pm. Go to bed hungry, sleep 8-9 hrs then when I wake up I am almost never hungry so I can complete the fast with another 4-5 hours then break the fast with dinner.
I've done 30+ hours before. Like other say the high is pretty nice the further you get. I'm wanting to do a 48 hr soon to see what that's like. I think no one has done that before.
Also intermittent fasting is good. Eat in a 8 hr window and fast 16.
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Not I .
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I tend to eat regularly because I'm not a big eater.
I couldn't get enough food in on 1 meal a day.
I can go a long time without food but I know its not good for the reasons I gave earlier.
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I do 7 days once or twice a year.
I figure it makes up for a multitude of sins.
It's also a great excuse to get away from a wife and 2 kids... "Right - who's up for 7 days without food with a coffee enema before bedtime?"
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Similar to Pedro - I usually fast a week or 6 days every year. It's a good mental clean out as well as a rest for your body.
Depending on how I'm feeling, I may also not eat once a week, or not eat until midday. I think it's done me a lot of good.
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I usually break my fast in the morning.
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How does one's cognitive competences fare during the fasting day, Virgin? Is your ability to 'think' at all hindered, akin to transitioning to keto or some such?
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I feel great when I fast. No cognitive issues. Sometimes I actually think more clearly. If I'm cutting carbs and going keto, I can feel shitty unless I fully commit and cut them right out.
I've determined that I can't do keto. Carbs are hiding everywhere and I don't like to cut them out, I enjoy them too much. Going low carb eliminates the haze, makes meal prep easier and I still lose just as much fat. Full keto makes me feel so horrible that I think my cortisol and adrenals get shot and I end up looking shittier anyway. I just cut the cals (mainly from carbs) and I lose weight. I don't think full keto is the bees knees unless you've done it, can tolerate it and see good results. I stopped trying to make it work and I haven't looked back.
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Your body is set to preserve energy pretty fast so I wouldn't fast too much. Usually when I get sick and can't eat for a couple of days I grab ahold of the opportunity and really push it for as long as I can. Feels great, like your cleansing yourself.
But the same feeling I get when cutting,, the elevated mood and focus that comes when you're hungry. The body is set to hunt and exert itself to find new energy. I really dig it.
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How does one's cognitive competences fare during the fasting day, Virgin? Is your ability to 'think' at all hindered, akin to transitioning to keto or some such?
No not at all....I go to school and I work full-time at a dotcom and I like to think i do pretty well at both. Once my blood-sugar stabilizes, about 12-16 hours after my last meal, I don't feel hungry and I think more clearly than I can after eating.
That being said, I do recall having some difficulties for the first month or so. A lot of it was mental, thinking that I was losing muscle, etc. Once i got over that and my body adapted, it was no problem at all.
After doing this for a year, being full just makes me feel sluggish n slow... so even on days i do eat, I eat most of my calories at the end of the day.
Also, I am the type of person who functions very well on low-carbs. I suspect that people who are able to handle lots of carbs with no problem may have more trouble with this, perhaps due to better insulin sensitivity.
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thanks kneegars
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I skip breakfast some times and just drink ice tea. ;D
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I skip breakfast some times and just drink ice tea. ;D
That's basically intermittent fasting lol.
Give a good day-long fast a try sometime, you might like it :)
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I went three days with no food with the exception of a few crackers recently when I got sick ;D
I wasn't particularly hungry after the first day.
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How does fasting affect the optimal functioning of the anabolic window process.
It seems like the anabolic window would be boarded up, in anticipation of the catabolic hurricane known as fasting.
Lots of muscle fibres withering away in this thread.
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During fasting, can you drink water?
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
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During fasting, can you drink water?
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
Lol of course you can drink water.
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During fasting, can you drink water?
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
Yeah, water and tea or coffee.
It sucks until you're into it, but IMO you think more clearly and start to feel better overall. Just takes some time.
(no galeniko)
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During fasting, can you drink water?
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
Some people report euphoric feelings. I try to avoid long periods of not eating, but I remember similar experiences (no homo, no hippie)
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Some people report euphoric feelings. I try to avoid long periods of not eating, but I remember similar experiences (no homo, no hippie)
lol
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Lol of course you can drink water.
Arent there some religions where you cannot even drink water?
Or are we just talking about fasting for not religious purposes?
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Yeah, water and tea or coffee.
It sucks until you're into it, but IMO you think more clearly and start to feel better overall. Just takes some time.
(no galeniko)
Start to feel better overall? Explain this to me.
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Some people report euphoric feelings. I try to avoid long periods of not eating, but I remember similar experiences (no homo, no hippie)
;D
Hmmm, euphoric feelings...Interesting.
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when I was young I used to spend my cash on drugs and women then I would fast to the next paycheck. other then that no...
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;D
Hmmm, euphoric feelings...Interesting.
For a few seconds I thought my name was Adolph.
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During fasting, can you drink water?
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
You get hungry, you get alert. Your vision sharpens and hearing gears up. A clarity sets in like you adjust the focus on a camera.
Your body feels light like you can leap tall buildings in a single bound.
You realize you and all people eat way too much and that it is a burden. You feel free and less dependant on external things.
Your bloodsugar stabilizes and a certain confident calm washes over you and the mood evens out in a straight line.
You can drink and eat small amounts and keep this feeling.
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As for why.. I think the body produces euphoric and energetic feelings to get ready to find some food! :)
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of course you should drink water. Total abstinence won't benefit anything.
I usually drink water, herbal teas, and vege or vege/fruit juices.
First day is easy, second day is usually the challenge, after that it's all good.
You feel like you have more energy (when you probably don't). I did notice this time around at day 5 I was starting to struggle with my German and had to really concentrate to speak it properly. I broke the fast the day after.
Breaking a fast correctly is also important. You have to restart slowly. It was about 4 days before I ate any animal products again.
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Arent there some religions where you cannot even drink water?
Or are we just talking about fasting for not religious purposes?
We are talking bodybuilding bro, not religion. 8)
I see a lot of people talk about blood sugar stabilizing so I will give my thoughts on that. For example yesterday I ate dinner consisting of chicken and rice and a couple egg rolls and small salad. I was full not stuffed. So after about 4 hrs I get my appetite back. This is just blood sugar playing games with you and stabilizing. Don't eat at this point. Once at around the 10 hour mark it is pretty well stabilized and easier to continue with the fast. The key is not to eat that meal when you get hungry a few hrs after you ate.
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Start to feel better overall? Explain this to me.
I think it's like the way we felt when we were kids. No aches or drowsiness during the day, falling asleep easier and waking up easier.
I've done it a few times and I've done the Dr. Oz fast a few times where you drink smoothies. (no homo)
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:)
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I started Kiefer's backloading and it requires a morning fast until noon-ish. I gotta say, the first day was horrible. I was hazy, even balancing while walking was difficult. I'm on day 4 now and I feel much better. Its not a "real" fast like you guys do that last a week. No idea how you can go that long without food! I'd shrivel up into nothing and feel like complete shit.
In general I do feel much better throughout the day after the fast and I'm surprised how well I sleep now!
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I think it's like the way we felt when we were kids.
Good description. It's a lot like that with the sustained energy. It's either how we felt as kids or more like the memory of how we felt as kids.
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I fasted for a day once during Ramadan, just to see what it'd be like to be a smelly cunt
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I fast once or twice a week. Have been for years.
It doesn't hurt anything as far as my physique is concerned. I'm not positive about the overall benefits, but it bothers me in the least.
The first 16 hours are a breeze for me.
I may drink a carbonated energy drink with no carbs... sounds funny "carb and carbonated" but have nothing to do with eachother. Ha ha
Fasting helps you keep your priorities straight. It also helps you realize things about food.
When it is time to eat again, you really notice just exactly what food does to you dependent upon what you choose to eat. It's a good way to test how you get along with certain foods.
I enjoy fasting and I will also work out during a fast. No problem.
Oh, and don't forget. Less time spent in the can on those days too...
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I fast once or twice a week. Have been for years.
It doesn't hurt anything as far as my physique is concerned. I'm not positive about the overall benefits, but it bothers me in the least.
The first 16 hours are a breeze for me.
I may drink a carbonated energy drink with no carbs... sounds funny "carb and carbonated" but have nothing to do with eachother. Ha ha
Fasting helps you keep your priorities straight. It also helps you realize things about food.
When it is time to eat again, you really notice just exactly what food does to you dependent upon what you choose to eat. It's a good way to test how you get along with certain foods.
I enjoy fasting and I will also work out during a fast. No problem.
Oh, and don't forget. Less time spent in the can on those days too...
Ah but that's my ME time. Especially while at work ;D Nothing like getting paid to poop!
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Ah but that's my ME time. Especially while at work ;D Nothing like getting paid to poop!
Lol ~ only if you can play on your phone ~ like..looking a those things you can't look at on the Internet while "working" so hard.
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Some people report euphoric feelings. I try to avoid long periods of not eating, but I remember similar experiences (no homo, no hippie)
After the hunger pains subside, that's when euphoria sets in for me. They get really intense and I can feel like shit, but once they're gone I feel fantastic and all the hunger disappears again.
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During fasting, can you drink water?
I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
Yes, lots of water/tea/coffee... nothing with any caloric content though.
As for your second question, 50-60% of your BMR is just your body digesting and assimilating nutrients. The gastrointestinal tract is basically one big muscle. Now if your body doesn't have to expend that energy to digest food, that is that much more energy you'll have available for other activities.
You know how you feel lethargic and sluggish after eating a really big meal? That's your body diverting available energy to the digestion process.... fasting basically makes you experience the OPPOSITE of that sensation.
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Breaking a fast correctly is also important. You have to restart slowly. It was about 4 days before I ate any animal products again.
Could you expand on this? I've never fasted as long as you have, usually only 36-48 hours, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on how to best break the fast
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I dont understand how anyone can report feeling good from fasting. Explain this to me please. Starving oneself does not seem like a pleasant experience.
You don't understand it because you're not aware of just how little food the human body can get by on. Even if you're under 10% body fat, you have pounds and pounds of fat to go through. Your muscles have glycogen and if you're really in a pinch, your body will catabolize amino acids from your muscles. So really, we don't need to eat every 2-3 hours. We don't even need to eat more than twice a day. I've seen people fast for days on end, but I don't advocate that. However, they do very well, have good glucose metabolism, etc.
I think if you can, try fasting all day and just eat after the gym. You'll burn fat all day, leptin and ghrelin will settle down and all the hunger/GI peptides will become more balanced, as well as your pancreas. Your pancreas will get a nice break and your muscles will have better glucose sensitivity. This is really important for your physique, and when you have sugar in the blood stream it's very toxic so the exposure should be minimized. Basically everything just works better and you damage your body far less.
I'm not a fan of the huge, metabolically damaging fasts or drinking any stupid teas or anything. Just don't eat like a fucking pig and see how it works. Thousands of years ago we never ate like the way we do now. And just not having a gut that's rumbling all day is reason enough for me to eat lighter and try to fast, if possible. I'm not strict though. If I want to eat, I'll eat. I don't like rigid rules and just listen to my body. People can think that fasting is extreme, but intermittent fasting isn't. If you can pull off even just one intermittent fasting day a week it's a huge bonus.
People think that fasting or intermittent fasting is extreme, but in hindsight it's actually the all day eating and grazing that's extreme. No one's ever done that, comparatively speaking until just recently. I think eating once or twice per day is the best for our metabolism and overall health. I never felt good when I ate 6 times a day. Two steaks and a chicken breast, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, toast, egg whites and oatmeal. I used to do that every fucking day, plus around 10 protein shakes. You can thank the good fools at bodybuilding.com for their dogma. Now I just eat a snack and one beautiful dinner each evening after the gym and I feel so much better. And on days where I'm extra hungry, I have two big meals. Big whoop. Not too complicated or extreme at all.
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Very well put, Dustin.
Lots of good stuff in here fellas, keep it coming 8)
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I fasted for a day once during Ramadan, just to see what it'd be like to be a smelly cunt
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahhahaah!
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My dad has always gone the whole day without eating. When he gets home from work around 8-9 he spends the rest of the night eating and watching tv. He eats a ton of fruits and vegetables he's incredibly healthy. 63 years old and he still runs 5-6 miles a few times a week and he weight trains. He spends a ton of time In the garden when it's warm. My parents home is surrounded by fruit trees he planted and beautiful flowers. In the afternoon he spends the rest of the day at the restaurant my parents own. They both work 7 days a week. Amazing people. He basically lives like a spartin.
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You want to know how to best "break" the fast?
Depends.
If you've been going for 24 hours, not such a big deal. Try to eat good food though. It's going to absorb quickly.
I would start of first with lots of liquids and fruits and then Oatmeal and egg whites.
You probably won't want to go to IHOP and load up on bacon, eggs, pancakes, waffles, syrups, juices, coffee... you will be headed for the bathroom in a hurry and prob spend the rest of the day wishing you had just kept fasting instead.
Break a fast gently, just like you would if you had competed. It can be dangerous over-loading your body with shit after emptying all the shit out.
Start off with an electrolyte water with vitamins and minerals and then keep eating easily digested/bland foods until you can work your way up to what you prefer.
If you fast regularly, you will find that you really won't ever like to stuff yourself with crap again. You will always kind of be fasting on some level because you will never want to over-eat and you will drink lots of fluids... daily.
At least, that's my experience ~
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You want to know how to best "break" the fast?
Depends.
If you've been going for 24 hours, not such a big deal. Try to eat good food though. It's going to absorb quickly.
I would start of first with lots of liquids and fruits and then Oatmeal and egg whites.
You probably won't want to go to IHOP and load up on bacon, eggs, pancakes, waffles, syrups, juices, coffee... you will be headed for the bathroom in a hurry and prob spend the rest of the day wishing you had just kept fasting instead.
Break a fast gently, just like you would if you had competed. It can be dangerous over-loading your body with shit after emptying all the shit out.
Start off with an electrolyte water with vitamins and minerals and then keep eating easily digested/bland foods until you can work your way up to what you prefer.
If you fast regularly, you will find that you really won't ever like to stuff yourself with crap again. You will always kind of be fasting on some level because you will never want to over-eat and you will drink lots of fluids... daily.
At least, that's my experience ~
Good advice.
If you want to crush a Big Mac, you're probably at the stage where hunger is still rampant and it would be bad to break the fast at that point, especially with bad foods. If you fast much longer, you'll want something that'll curb your satiety but won't send you to the shitter. It's crazy how our bodies work. Most people say "if I don't eat all day I'll just crush my fridge or a pile of fast food"... no you won't. Not if you fast properly.
I like how it frees up so much time and that I shit better too. I'm not shitting and eating all the time. I shit quickly and properly and I can have one nice big meal with my wife after the gym instead of stuffing dry chicken breasts in my pocket and worrying about catabolism. :o ;D
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a lot of good info in here on this.
i fast every day for anywhere from 20-24 hours. i train fasted. yes, you'll be hungry as your body adapts from being fed 6 times a day to only once or twice, but its to be expected. once you get your body used to the fasting its a piece of cake.
there is def a mental clarity and energy on the fast. almost drug like energy if you can go upwards of 36 hours and avoids carbs when you start to eat again. carbs tend to blunt it for some reason. drug like and almost euphoric. i dont understand the chemical processes involved but fuck it feels good. i have noticed you can hold that energy into perpetuity if you stay away from carbs and go stirctly fats/protein.
as dustin alludes to (good posting sir) that we are not biologically designed to be farmers and eat 6 times a day. we are nomadic hunter gatherers who ate sparsely, fasted a lot unwillingly at times and ate when they made a kill. we've become sedentary fatsos- why do you think despite all the 'fat free' and 'low carbs' food available, and everything that is 'known' about 'how to eat' we are a populations of fat retards? even people who supposedly eat well are fat. look at olympian athletes- they should be ripped to the fucking bone all sinew and tissue fuck most girls look fucking chubby ffs. think they are all congregating at the local walmart Mcdonalds to stuff their faces? no they have diets, coaches and nutritionists. but they are all FAT. so much for the 'science of eating'.
its all wrong. eating 5-6 times a day makes you fat. period. every time you eat you release insulin, which ages you, and is a storage hormone. on top of that it inhibits lypolysis (google it and educate yourselves).
of all, the threads i have read online, and all the advise i have given, this one has the ability to change your life for the greatest good.
its just that we are addicted to eating and carbs. break the cycle guys.
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look at olympian athletes- they should be ripped to the fucking bone all sinew and tissue fuck most girls look fucking chubby ffs. think they are all congregating at the local walmart Mcdonalds to stuff their faces? no they have diets, coaches and nutritionists. but they are all FAT. so much for the 'science of eating'.
Well, yes and no.
(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/trv/image/1393/88/1393887195871.jpg)
(http://www.crankcrossfit.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/bed72-32d3a_legs_380.jpg)
(http://thehumancircus.hookgrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/lu-xiaojun-snatch-pulls.jpg)
etc.
I know plenty of people who eat 5 meals a day and are shredded. Naturals as well.
On the other hand, Klokov trains on empty stomach. Eating patterns are a matter of convenience. You could find anecdotal evidence that pretty much anything works as long as you are in caloric deficit.
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Fasting is like dancing, only women and homosexuals perform that act.
x2
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Well, yes and no.
etc.
I know plenty of people who eat 5 meals a day and are shredded. Naturals as well.
On the other hand, Klokov trains on empty stomach. Eating patterns are a matter of convenience. You could find anecdotal evidence that pretty much anything works as long as you are in caloric deficit.
the women bro. i was talking about the women. you might find a few who are ripped but the majority are fat.
AND those guys are enhanced out the ass.
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You don't understand it because you're not aware of just how little food the human body can get by on. Even if you're under 10% body fat, you have pounds and pounds of fat to go through. Your muscles have glycogen and if you're really in a pinch, your body will catabolize amino acids from your muscles. So really, we don't need to eat every 2-3 hours. We don't even need to eat more than twice a day. I've seen people fast for days on end, but I don't advocate that. However, they do very well, have good glucose metabolism, etc.
I think if you can, try fasting all day and just eat after the gym. You'll burn fat all day, leptin and ghrelin will settle down and all the hunger/GI peptides will become more balanced, as well as your pancreas. Your pancreas will get a nice break and your muscles will have better glucose sensitivity. This is really important for your physique, and when you have sugar in the blood stream it's very toxic so the exposure should be minimized. Basically everything just works better and you damage your body far less.
I'm not a fan of the huge, metabolically damaging fasts or drinking any stupid teas or anything. Just don't eat like a fucking pig and see how it works. Thousands of years ago we never ate like the way we do now. And just not having a gut that's rumbling all day is reason enough for me to eat lighter and try to fast, if possible. I'm not strict though. If I want to eat, I'll eat. I don't like rigid rules and just listen to my body. People can think that fasting is extreme, but intermittent fasting isn't. If you can pull off even just one intermittent fasting day a week it's a huge bonus.
People think that fasting or intermittent fasting is extreme, but in hindsight it's actually the all day eating and grazing that's extreme. No one's ever done that, comparatively speaking until just recently. I think eating once or twice per day is the best for our metabolism and overall health. I never felt good when I ate 6 times a day. Two steaks and a chicken breast, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, toast, egg whites and oatmeal. I used to do that every fucking day, plus around 10 protein shakes. You can thank the good fools at bodybuilding.com for their dogma. Now I just eat a snack and one beautiful dinner each evening after the gym and I feel so much better. And on days where I'm extra hungry, I have two big meals. Big whoop. Not too complicated or extreme at all.
So liberating to let go of the bulking bullshit and just listen to the body's needs.
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So liberating to let go of the bulking bullshit and just listen to the body's needs.
yes bro 100%!
we've been fed bullshit by science and supplement companies alike for decades. force feeding ourselves calories and protein we really dont need. its amazing really.
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the women bro. i was talking about the women. you might find a few who are ripped but the majority are fat.
AND those guys are enhanced out the ass.
Ok, my bad. I didn't understand what you meant.
By the way, Klokov is good example to pull if someone says that he cannot "train hard" on empty stomach. It's a matter of getting adjusted to it. If somoene thinks he is "hardcore" and "trains for strength so he cannot train fasted" he should go to mother Russia and try to keep up with mr Klokov. Well, good luck XD
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yes bro 100%!
we've been fed bullshit by science and supplement companies alike for decades. force feeding ourselves calories and protein we really dont need. its amazing really.
Especially carbs and meat are advocated to gorge on with no regards to individual need. I started on that stuff too, with the gainer shakes and all.. The industry tells you, If you are an ectomorph (which most teen kids are in the beginning) you are eating to little.
Too many times I got fat gains that could have been avoided by not forcing down food. Silly really
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I don't. Also the spring is a natural bulking phase. You can feel it's really paying dividend to increase calories, it all goes to muscle mass and energy in the spring.
Also, you are much healthier, and less toxic if you avoid fasting. That's just a myth to make the slaves cheaper to run.
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So liberating to let go of the bulking bullshit and just listen to the body's needs.
Absolutely. Every Sunday I spent the entire day baking trays of chicken breasts, I'd cook steaks every few days until I would actually be repulsed by the thought of red meat, my house would be steamed up from boiling pasta and brown rice (I'm Asian, why the fuck did I ever eat that shit!?)... now I love food again, I still cook everyday but it's with a huge passion!! I stopped looking at food and "seeing macros". Now I just see the food. I cook a portion that has enough protein to meet my nutritional requirements and if I'm being a fatty McFatass, I just try skimping on the carbs and adding more veggies. That's my diet - eat enough protein, don't be a fatass, cheat only if it'll keep me on track. Does that sound complicated at all? Nope. Am I shredded like a cock? Yep.
What others said about eating all the time and being ripped - it's definitely possible. Anything's possible. I know guys eating 4000-5000 cals a day with twice as many carbs as protein. But do they have to do that? Absolutely not. Unless they're an endurance athlete and burn that many calories... not many people burn that much energy in a day. So why would you run on the spot and eat all that shit just to spent time in the kitchen and in the can shitting it all out? Be a minimalist. Don't go and complicate shit that doesn't need to be complicated. Life is complicated and convoluted enough. Just eat when you need to and spend the other 24 hours of your day not eating and shitting. I love food, don't get me wrong. But being a slave to food was thankfully a short lived phase. But I spent a good 4-5 years doing that very strictly and very meticulously. I don't joke when I say 10 shakes either. I'd go through a jug and a half of milk each day and a tub of protein like every week. But the sponsors from bb.com used to send me free product to shill because people liked my postings. And I feel very guilty for preaching, even though I practiced what I preached and believed it with every shred of my being.
I just think it's so much easier to not eat like a pig and learn to love food again. You'll usually look better, feel better, save money, reclaim lost hours due to cooking, eating and shitting, etc. People can make any "diet" work as long as they commit to it and make sure that their results continue to compound, but why take the shitty and difficult road when there's absolutely no gain? Our bodies aren't meant to eat all the time. If your gut is rumbling and gurgling 24/7 because you've got to constantly shit, it really impedes your ability to train and leaves you with discomfort all day long. I can't even eat 4-5 hours before training anymore because I feel so much better training fasted. I still lift heavy as fuck too, so the strength drop is only temporary.
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I don't. Also the spring is a natural bulking phase. You can feel it's really paying dividend to increase calories, it all goes to muscle mass and energy in the spring.
Also, you are much healthier, and less toxic if you avoid fasting. That's just a myth to make the slaves cheaper to run.
Actually I put that wrong. I never bulk or fast.
Never make a conscious effort to eat in a way that contradicts what you mentally and physically sense is right for the moment.
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I remain gnarly intelligent and creepy ripped at all times.
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I fast from midnight until noon......then I eat just a small meal......maybe a chicken sandwich.....maybe a protein drink......then I will eat dinner before training around 8pm.
after training.....I will eat another meal around 9:30 or 10pm........one more protein drink before bed.
I never do a full day of fasting though.
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Yes, lots of water/tea/coffee... nothing with any caloric content though.
As for your second question, 50-60% of your BMR is just your body digesting and assimilating nutrients. The gastrointestinal tract is basically one big muscle. Now if your body doesn't have to expend that energy to digest food, that is that much more energy you'll have available for other activities.
You know how you feel lethargic and sluggish after eating a really big meal? That's your body diverting available energy to the digestion process.... fasting basically makes you experience the OPPOSITE of that sensation.
Hmmmm, I do not know. I guess I will have to try and see how I feel.
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You don't understand it because you're not aware of just how little food the human body can get by on. Even if you're under 10% body fat, you have pounds and pounds of fat to go through. Your muscles have glycogen and if you're really in a pinch, your body will catabolize amino acids from your muscles. So really, we don't need to eat every 2-3 hours. We don't even need to eat more than twice a day. I've seen people fast for days on end, but I don't advocate that. However, they do very well, have good glucose metabolism, etc.
I think if you can, try fasting all day and just eat after the gym. You'll burn fat all day, leptin and ghrelin will settle down and all the hunger/GI peptides will become more balanced, as well as your pancreas. Your pancreas will get a nice break and your muscles will have better glucose sensitivity. This is really important for your physique, and when you have sugar in the blood stream it's very toxic so the exposure should be minimized. Basically everything just works better and you damage your body far less.
I'm not a fan of the huge, metabolically damaging fasts or drinking any stupid teas or anything. Just don't eat like a fucking pig and see how it works. Thousands of years ago we never ate like the way we do now. And just not having a gut that's rumbling all day is reason enough for me to eat lighter and try to fast, if possible. I'm not strict though. If I want to eat, I'll eat. I don't like rigid rules and just listen to my body. People can think that fasting is extreme, but intermittent fasting isn't. If you can pull off even just one intermittent fasting day a week it's a huge bonus.
People think that fasting or intermittent fasting is extreme, but in hindsight it's actually the all day eating and grazing that's extreme. No one's ever done that, comparatively speaking until just recently. I think eating once or twice per day is the best for our metabolism and overall health. I never felt good when I ate 6 times a day. Two steaks and a chicken breast, brown rice, whole wheat pasta, toast, egg whites and oatmeal. I used to do that every fucking day, plus around 10 protein shakes. You can thank the good fools at bodybuilding.com for their dogma. Now I just eat a snack and one beautiful dinner each evening after the gym and I feel so much better. And on days where I'm extra hungry, I have two big meals. Big whoop. Not too complicated or extreme at all.
Good post. Thanks a lot :)
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Though the one thing I am trying to do is limit my portions. In America the portions are huge. Im trying to learn to eat to the point where I am content, but not bloated or stuffed. I hate that feeling.
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The Truth About 6 Meals a Day for Weight Loss
Three squares a day -- breakfast, lunch, and dinner -- is a way of life for many of us. But some diet experts believe more frequent meals could be better. Eating six small meals a day, they say, helps regulate blood sugar, control cravings and keep hunger at bay.
As long as you choose the right foods and watch portion sizes, "grazing" throughout the day can help you lose weight while keeping you energized. But it's not for everyone -- especially if you have trouble controlling the amount you eat or if you don’t have time to plan and prepare and healthy snacks and meals.
The Truth About 6 Meals a Day
Hunger is a dieter’s worst enemy. That gnawing feeling usually occurs between meals, when blood sugar levels drop. In theory, if you divide your daily calorie allotment into several small meals throughout the day, hunger won’t be an issue.
Jorge Cruise’s The 3 Hour Diet is one diet book that claims frequent small meals can rev up your metabolism and help you burn calories. But while eating more frequently seems to help some people control hunger, the scientific evidence indicates that there's nothing magical about it. Ultimately, what matters most is reducing your total calories -- regardless of the number of meals or snacks.
A review in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition concluded there was no real weight loss advantage to eating six meals a day. Another study, in the British Journal of Nutrition, found no weight loss difference between dieters who ate their calories in three meals daily or six meals a day.
What Should You Eat?
Eating more frequently could actually mean less nutrition and more calories if you don’t carefully plan out your snacks and meals.
Calorie requirements are determined by age, sex, physical activity levels, and weight loss goals. Most adults need about 1,500-2,200 calories for weight loss, unless they're very active. (See WebMD's Food and Fitness Planner to calculate your own calorie requirements.)
For maximum satisfaction, each mini-meal or snack should include lean- or low-fat protein, fiber, and a little healthy fat. For good nutrition, try to include at least one fruit or veggie in each mini-meal.
Good protein sources include lean meat, seafood, low-fat dairy (yogurt, cheese, milk), eggs, nuts, beans, and soy. Fiber-rich foods include whole grains, fruits, vegetables, and beans. Healthy fats come from vegetable oils, avocados, nuts, and fatty fish.
Here are some healthy mini-meals that are easy to prepare:
An apple with a piece of cheese and light popcorn
Egg, slice of whole-wheat toast, and half a grapefruit
Grilled chicken sandwich with veggies
Whole-grain roll with peanut butter and banana
Hummus, whole-grain crackers, and baby carrots
Smoothie made with yogurt, fruit, and juice
Waldorf salad and half a turkey sandwich
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Could you expand on this? I've never fasted as long as you have, usually only 36-48 hours, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on how to best break the fast
I only do a long fast once or twice a year and I do think shorter fasts can be just as helpful. I tend to do a long one when I'm mentally bogged down so my process kind of reflects this.
Two days before starting I'll stop animal products. The day before I'll just eat very lightly. I don't feel good starting a fast if I still have a pile of food digesting inside me. Depending on how I feel I may or may not eat that night before.
When I break the fast I'll take 2-3 days to start eating more complex foods, so typically my first meal afterward is a piece of fruit, with some vegetable soup for dinner.
The next day I'll eat a little more than the first day back, perhaps adding some rice or 'heavier' more fibrous veggies.
Third day back I'll introduce a little bread and some nuts/seeds. Maybe I'll have some plain yoghurt (I tend to avoid dairy anyway).
Fourth day back in and I'll have some eggs.
Day 5 I'll start back with chicken or fish.
I don't really see the sense in giving your body a break only to jam it full of food again the minute you stop. It takes awhile (for me at least) to get back up to speed and I try and think in terms of how long something will take to digest. I know nuts are pretty complex but I don't go overboard. Other than the nuts I'll try and keep fats as low as I can until the end.
If I'm just eating intermittently though (like just having dinner, or just breakfast and lunch or whatever) then I don't worry too much.
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This may be of interest
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xu7eyp_bbc-eat-fast-and-live-longer-jedz-posti-sa-a-zi-dlhsie_shortfilms
(sorry - wouldn't embed)
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fasting is the fastest way to increase nerve resistance when trying to detach from the material world and access higher realms. Although it is taxing on the physical body (I am talking about a 3 day fast). There is a better method but the science of it is lost for now. I am working on putting it back together.
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fasting is the fastest way to increase nerve resistance when trying to detach from the material world and access higher realms. Although it is taxing on the physical body (I am talking about a 3 day fast). There is a better method but the science of it is lost for now. I am working on putting it back together.
Good to know for when I practice my remote viewing.
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Good to know for when I practice my remote viewing.
Here's the mental technique for remote viewing:
Think of the location you want to scan and flood it in pale yellow. Then put yourself in pale yellow and connect your pineal to the place you scan with a pale yellow line. Observe the images that come to your mind.
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fasting is the fastest way to increase nerve resistance when trying to detach from the material world and access higher realms. Although it is taxing on the physical body (I am talking about a 3 day fast). There is a better method but the science of it is lost for now. I am working on putting it back together.
What do you think about incorporating shorter--like 24-36 hours--fasts while dieting? Beneficial, unnecessary, or detrimental to the process?
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What do you think about incorporating shorter--like 24-36 hours--fasts while dieting? Beneficial, unnecessary, or detrimental to the process?
I have clients who fast one day a week. Gives the digestive system a break and allows cleansing .. this is combined with a clean healthy diet of course.
I finish the 3 day fast with a colon cleanse.
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Another bizaare thing people do to please "God" oh brother 2014 and so many people still have nt woken up
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I have clients who fast one day a week. Gives the digestive system a break and allows cleansing .. this is combined with a clean healthy diet of course.
I finish the 3 day fast with a colon cleanse.
People don't appreciate just how hard they overwork the GI. I'm not saying I'm turning vegetarian or anything, but I almost eat no more red meat because that stuff takes a fair bit of processing power to be broken down and pushed out the pooper. I'm not against it at all and I'm not a red meat fear mongerer, but you don't need a solid kilo of red meat per day and you don't need to eat it 5 times a day.
Fasting and/or intermittent fasting is a good way to enjoy these things without putting the GI tract on the chopping block. We weren't made to be eating things like red meat multiple times a day. It's extremely nutritious but we don't need such a crazy overabundance. I found that my shits have been way better since intermittent fasting and cutting back on things like red meat, which is usually something the all-day-grazers/6-meals-a-day-crews like to promote like it's going out of style.
Lots of veggies are great, especially coming off a fast. Easy on the body and you can cook them to taste amazing. I used to shun veggies and figured a multivitamin gave me all I need, but I'm embarrassed to admit how wrong I was. I've found lots of ways to make them quickly, make them way more than palatable (they taste awesome) and it does the body good. Keeps you from over-eating as well. You can go to town on a huge plate of veggies without remorse. After a big fast I'll slowly add a bit more meat back in and my stomach doesn't gurgle and turn like it used to. I'm getting way leaner and feel stronger too, so eating properly isn't a submission or compromise at all. 8)
What do you like eating before and after fasts, sev? And how do your clients respond? It can be a big change for people, so you probably see a myriad of reactions. Would love to hear more. I'm a fucking newb when it comes to eating properly as the bodybuilding propaganda was the only commitment to food I ever made.