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Title: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:05:38 PM
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Post by: Fury on December 25, 2006, 01:06:39 PM
Troponin is a tank.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:10:26 PM
monster calves haha
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:10:40 PM
Troponin is a tank.
hell yes, that guy is strong on just about everything.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:11:53 PM
hell yes, that guy is strong on just about everything.

Too bad he is not strong on chest. :-\

..or calves for that matter.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:13:21 PM
here he is throwing around 315 on the incline like a toy.

&NR
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Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 25, 2006, 01:14:41 PM
Implants are all that will save that guy from the knees to the ankles.
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Post by: Fury on December 25, 2006, 01:14:59 PM
Too bad he is not strong on chest. :-\

..or calves for that matter.

He and Kuclo wreck you in every lift imaginable.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:15:03 PM
here he is throwing around 315 on the incline like a toy.

&NR

Does that impress you?  :-\

You should be able to do that if you bench 375!
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:16:43 PM
Does that impress you?  :-\

You should be able to do that if you bench 375!
you're wrong my little friend, the lastt ime i hit a single was for a fairly hard 370 on flat bench and i can only hit 275 for 7 on barbell incline, i can't even flat bench 315 for 12 only 7.
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Post by: Fury on December 25, 2006, 01:18:22 PM
you're wrong my little friend, the lastt ime i hit a single was for a fairly hard 370 on flat bench and i can only hit 275 for 7 on barbell incline, i can't even flat bench 315 for 12 only 7.

Bullshit, everyone on Getbig flat benches 405 for 3+ reps after dumbbell, incline and decline work. 370 is pretty good.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:19:10 PM
you're wrong my little friend, the lastt ime i hit a single was for a fairly hard 370 on flat bench and i can only hit 275 for 7 on barbell incline, i can't even flat bench 315 for 12 only 7.

Why are you not strong?
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Post by: columbusdude82 on December 25, 2006, 01:20:31 PM
These clips are always great to watch, very inspirational. I'd rather watch troponin and learn from him than some pro like kamali any time. I really hope he and steve make a training video.

Troponin, Steve Kuclo, Trey Brewer, Evan Centopani, these are some of the best superheavyweights out there today, let's see what they do in 07.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:21:57 PM
These clips are always great to watch, very inspirational. I'd rather watch troponin and learn from him than some pro like kamali any time. I really hope he and steve make a training video.

Troponin, Steve Kuclo, Trey Brewer, Evan Centopani, these are some of the best superheavyweights out there today, let's see what they do in 07.
Kamali couldn't touch the weight these two lift.
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Post by: Fury on December 25, 2006, 01:22:51 PM
Anyone know how old Troponin is?
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:24:26 PM
Squiddaddy do you do those lifts naturally?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:25:12 PM
Squiddaddy do you do those lifts naturally?
i'm natural now and that's what i do now.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:26:24 PM
i'm natural now and that's what i do now.

That is some pretty good weight there. Do you plan on doing mr. getbig?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:27:32 PM
That is some pretty good weight there. Do you plan on doing mr. getbig?
probably not, i'm not lifetime natural either.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:29:24 PM
probably not, i'm not lifetime natural either.

Come on bast is not natural either and he is allowed to compete.

You can block out your face like whateva!
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:30:27 PM
Come on bast is not natural either and he is allowed to compete.

You can block out your face like whateva!
Bast is natural, pro hormones are no different than vitamins compared to real juice, you both have great builds.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:34:39 PM
Bast is natural, pro hormones are no different than vitamins compared to real juice, you both have great builds.

Thanks. I think you owe it to yourself to train for something. You should try to get into the best condition of your life.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:36:18 PM
Thanks. I think you owe it to yourself to train for something. You should try to get into the best condition of your life.
i'm fine training for myself, i'll be 35 in March, i'll leave the competing for the young bucks like you guys.
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Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 25, 2006, 01:38:55 PM

i counted 7.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:39:41 PM
i'm fine training for myself, i'll be 35 in March, i'll leave the competing for the young bucks like you guys.

Ok cool. You are the same age as my training partners. The yound bucks can't keep up with me. ;D
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Post by: king on December 25, 2006, 01:40:58 PM
hey alexxx how old are you?
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 01:42:03 PM
Ok cool. You are the same age as my training partners. The yound bucks can't keep up with me. ;D
i wish i was your age again.
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Post by: alexxx on December 25, 2006, 01:45:25 PM
hey alexxx how old are you?

I am 22 years old.

i wish i was your age again.

Come on bro that is just the begining! 65 year old Nubret!

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn155.jpg)
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Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on December 25, 2006, 02:10:47 PM
Come on bro that is just the begining! 65 year old Nubret!

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/nubret/sn155.jpg)

That's fucking insane at 65.
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Post by: gh15 on December 25, 2006, 02:40:34 PM
indeed impressive fronts but that is not the key for getting a pro card. this is more of a powerlifting style training that is going to put you under risk of injury. you can achieve same results with 300 and 400lb

remember what you train for! bodybuilders are not powerlifters,,yes it is nice to do this work from time to time but it aint gonna get your pro card nor grow your muscles better.

very good stength though,,i dont think i can front squat this weight on a regular basis at that rep range going down under parallel powerlifting style,,phenominal job and ofcourse loaded on hormones but whos not so its fair game,,
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 02:42:10 PM
indeed impressive fronts but that is not the key for getting a pro card. this is more of a powerlifting style training that is going to put you under risk of injury. you can achieve same results with 300 and 400lb

remember what you train for! bodybuilders are not powerlifters,,yes it is nice to do this work from time to time but it aint gonna get your pro card nor grow your muscles better.

very good stength though,,i dont think i can front squat this weight on a regular basis at that rep range going down under parallel powerlifting style,,phenominal job and ofcourse loaded on hormones but whos not so its fair game,,
yeah GH everyone in the world is "loaded up on hormones" ::), hormones or not that's impressive, i've used my share and they never did any work on their own.
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Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 25, 2006, 02:45:37 PM
indeed impressive fronts but that is not the key for getting a pro card. this is more of a powerlifting style training that is going to put you under risk of injury. you can achieve same results with 300 and 400lb

what does this have to do with getting a pro card you moron?? it's a video of a lift, jesus christ.  stop making stupid irrelevant posts.
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Post by: gh15 on December 25, 2006, 02:46:21 PM
read it again i said it is VERY impressive,,,but the hormones have A LOT to do with it,,,you will be surprized what llittle anaplon var or halo can do to your strength,,add in growth and test and you will see another 2 plates each side of the bar,,

impressive yet hormonized to the MAXIMUS MAX
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Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 25, 2006, 02:48:06 PM
read it again i said it is VERY impressive,,,but the hormones have A LOT to do with it,,,you will be surprized what llittle anaplon var or halo can do to your strength,,add in growth and test and you will see another 2 plates each side of the bar,,

impressive yet hormonized to the MAXIMUS MAX
do you know this guy?  stop making posts about gear, it's old.,.,. you're stupid.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 02:48:16 PM
what does this have to do with getting a pro card you moron?? it's a video of a lift, jesus christ.  stop making stupid irrelevant posts.
you have to remember DL, GH15 is imtimidated of anyone who isn't juiced to the gills who lifts impressive weight, he hates the fact that Troponin isn't some 300lb. bloated drug freak monster with zits you can see through his shirt and that he's lifting big weight with good form.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 02:50:10 PM
read it again i said it is VERY impressive,,,but the hormones have A LOT to do with it,,,you will be surprized what llittle anaplon var or halo can do to your strength,,add in growth and test and you will see another 2 plates each side of the bar,,

impressive yet hormonized to the MAXIMUS MAX
hahahahaha, you fuccking moron, you should be bitch slapped for such a silly post, no one on any amount of hormones has ever front squatted 675lbs. below parallel for reps, you've obviously never seen the inside of a gym.
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Post by: gh15 on December 25, 2006, 02:52:46 PM
my friends,,,the guy in question is king of hormones,,wether he admits or not,,,he also knows his job

now id say im pretty lucky to place top 10 o couple of times for a person who never saw a gym,, ;)
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 02:55:12 PM
my friends,,,the guy in question is king of hormones,,wether he admits or not,,,he also knows his job

now id say im pretty lucky to place top 10 o couple of times for a person who never saw a gym,, ;)
hahahaha, bullshit, you're the king of the getbig liars, you know nothing about lifting or training, until i see a picture of you onstage or in the gym your posts mean absolutely nothing, if you were indeed a "pro" you would have blue stars, now go back to sitting on Santa's lap and tell him how you want that new 24 inch dildo.
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Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 25, 2006, 02:56:09 PM
hahahahaha, you fuccking moron, you should be bitch slapped for such a silly post, no one on any amount of hormones has ever front squatted 675lbs. below parallel for reps, you've obviously never seen the inside of a gym.
didn't you know that gh15 is a top ten mr olympia competitor, lol, oh brother ::)  monster delusional pathetic no life loser with a fake online pro bodybuilder persona ::)
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 02:58:53 PM
didn't you know that gh15 is a top ten mr olympia competitor, lol, oh brother ::)  monster delusional pathetic no life loser with a fake online pro bodybuilder persona ::)
hahahaha, he's weak in both body and mind, he's one of these fagggots who thinks you need pounds of steroids to even walk through the gym doors, can you imagine how pathetic this little clowns upbringing was? he was obviously the skinny runt of his family who played chess instead of football and was picked on mercilessly.
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Post by: Fury on December 25, 2006, 03:00:18 PM
So according to GH15, squatting 300 wins Olympia's while squatting 500 only leads to injury and plays no role in muscle growth? Interesting concept. And here I thought that increasing weight over time for all these years was the right thing to do.  ::)
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on December 25, 2006, 03:22:51 PM
-you gotta know the sport a little better to understand where i come from,,

-you also need to learn from my posts instead of runnin your 20 year old mouths for nothing,,the more you will read my posts the more chances you have at national placing in the usa or abroad

-i get plenty of private messges that i try to answer yet not all i do due to privacy issues and you got to understand it.

-blue stars are not wanted by me because i want to stay annonimous,,,my email that was provided when registtarion occured is not my email thus email you write there wont get to me,,so is the birthdate provided,,

-im doing a big favour to majority of greenies that aim at high level of competition by opening their eyes since i am god when it comes to hormones,,and not only in the usa

- to all the ones who concerned that dea will come,,,i say you have nothing to worry about because they look for narcs and that is a diff section of bodybuilding that i stay out of,,also when the goods are not kept in usa you are as safe as possible,,

- inorder to be able to survive that long,,you gotta know the industry well and stay as far from fire as possible (palumbo,,the murderer,,you gotta know how to use and control them and put them in an isolated box so when they get cought they know nothing about anything) i shouldnt tell you that but hey its xmas why not ;)


- the guy in question in the video pesented is HORMONIZED TO THE MAX. and yes yes i do support true protien,,they are ok,,,but keep it real fellas,,just keep it real

- if you will pay attention closely how luke improved his chest,,,it wasnt by super heavy bench,,,and he is how much ? 280 oh ya ,,,

insted of running your mouth just lay back,,read,,,take the right hormones and be proud of it,,,and follow my advice if you wanna get anywhere in this industry.
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Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 25, 2006, 03:32:19 PM
-you gotta know the sport a little better to understand where i come from,,

-you also need to learn from my posts instead of runnin your 20 year old mouths for nothing,,the more you will read my posts the more chances you have at national placing in the usa or abroad

-i get plenty of private messges that i try to answer yet not all i do due to privacy issues and you got to understand it.

-blue stars are not wanted by me because i want to stay annonimous,,,my email that was provided when registtarion occured is not my email thus email you write there wont get to me,,so is the birthdate provided,,

-im doing a big favour to majority of greenies that aim at high level of competition by opening their eyes since i am god when it comes to hormones,,and not only in the usa

- to all the ones who concerned that dea will come,,,i say you have nothing to worry about because they look for narcs and that is a diff section of bodybuilding that i stay out of,,also when the goods are not kept in usa you are as safe as possible,,

- inorder to be able to survive that long,,you gotta know the industry well and stay as far from fire as possible (palumbo,,the murderer,,you gotta know how to use and control them and put them in an isolated box so when they get cought they know nothing about anything) i shouldnt tell you that but hey its xmas why not ;)


- the guy in question in the video pesented is HORMONIZED TO THE MAX. and yes yes i do support true protien,,they are ok,,,but keep it real fellas,,just keep it real

- if you will pay attention closely how luke improved his chest,,,it wasnt by super heavy bench,,,and he is how much ? 280 oh ya ,,,

insted of running your mouth just lay back,,read,,,take the right hormones and be proud of it,,,and follow my advice if you wanna get anywhere in this industry.


what's it like to have a life so pathetic that you feel the need to lie online...?  nothing you say, none of your advice, is groundbreaking.  some of it is stupid, and most is common knowledge among people with basic knowledge of anabolics, on any other board you would be laughed at for trying to proclaim yourself as a hormone guru and pretend to be a succesful pro bber.  just shut the f**k up.
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Post by: Fury on December 25, 2006, 03:35:52 PM
what's it like to have a life so pathetic that you feel the need to lie online...?  nothing you say, none of your advice, is groundbreaking.  some of it is stupid, and most is common knowledge among people with basic knowledge of anabolics, on any other board you would be laughed at for trying to proclaim yourself as a hormone guru and pretend to be a succesful pro bber.  just shut the f**k up.

GH15 is a fucking clown. It's pretty obvious he's a gimmick.
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Post by: gh15 on December 25, 2006, 03:44:39 PM
what's it like to have a life so pathetic that you feel the need to lie online...?  nothing you say, none of your advice, is groundbreaking.  some of it is stupid, and most is common knowledge among people with basic knowledge of anabolics, on any other board you would be laughed at for trying to proclaim yourself as a hormone guru and pretend to be a succesful pro bber.  just shut the f**k up.

with out gh15 most other boards would not exisist,, my friend being bitter for you being on hormone and achieving nothing is one thing,,,but to think i ever lie makes you look like your name,, delussional

the reason you are mad out of your mind is because i reveal very very important information and  it hurts somewhere in your brain where the chemicals are little bit off.

if you want me to ever answer you again or respond to you again,,you will have to refer  to me with sir or mr gh15,,and if brave enough leave your real addy here so you cant ever order nothing anymore,,youre lucky if ill let you order poweders because ill cut you from china supp too.
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Post by: Delusional Liberal on December 25, 2006, 03:50:14 PM
with out gh15 most other boards would not exisist,, my friend being bitter for you being on hormone and achieving nothing is one thing,,,but to think i ever lie makes you look like your name,, delussional

the reason you are mad out of your mind is because i reveal very very important information and  it hurts somewhere in your brain where the chemicals are little bit off.

if you want me to ever answer you again or respond to you again,,you will have to refer  to me with sir or mr gh15,,and if brave enough leave your real addy here so you cant ever order nothing anymore,,youre lucky if ill let you order poweders because ill cut you from china supp too.
lol, know greenleafpharm, fat xu?  email them and ask if they know a guy named ALEX, i think they will, very well.   how are you going to cut me off from powders? lol, you dont know who i am do you, id be glad to actually prove who i am if you would like.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 25, 2006, 03:51:44 PM



- if you will pay attention closely how luke improved his chest,,,it wasnt by super heavy bench,,,and he is how much ? 280 oh ya ,,,

insted of running your mouth just lay back,,read,,,take the right hormones and be proud of it,,,and follow my advice if you wanna get anywhere in this industry.

Luke Wood? Sure you can improve some if you pump in a lot of hormones and do a lot of "pumping" in the gym. Doesn't change the fact that poundage/tension is the primary factor in hypertrophy. If it weren't you could just stay at home and train with rubber bands and grow to your potential. None of these pros grow as much as when they started training either - when they increased their strength the most. A hypothetical example: if Luke increased his bench from 405 x 10 to 550 x 10 (just an example, not saying it's even possible) his chest would grow so much more.

DC said Trop thinks he can pull 800 eventually. I guarantee his back will bigger than ever at that point.
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Post by: TheEgoCrusher on December 25, 2006, 03:57:45 PM
i'm natural now and that's what i do now.

There is no such thing as "natural  now"...if you have ever used then you can't go back.
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: gh15 on December 25, 2006, 04:24:18 PM
Luke Wood? Sure you can improve some if you pump in a lot of hormones and do a lot of "pumping" in the gym. Doesn't change the fact that poundage/tension is the primary factor in hypertrophy. If it weren't you could just stay at home and train with rubber bands and grow to your potential. None of these pros grow as much as when they started training either - when they increased their strength the most. A hypothetical example: if Luke increased his bench from 405 x 10 to 550 x 10 (just an example, not saying it's even possible) his chest would grow so much more.

DC said Trop thinks he can pull 800 eventually. I guarantee his back will bigger than ever at that point.

diff is,,,i got my pro card,,,part of the reason that many dont,,is this is powerlifting style,, extremly heavy training.

i didnt say that was not impressive because it indeed is,,,what i did say,,, is that this style of lifting will not get you a pro card in most cases,,,take out kuclo of the equation due to age as i said in past times kuclo will have a pro card,,his genetics and build is superior and his age is young.
ronnie coleman got completely fucked from this style of training and did it years before and had the lean muscle mass for this style of lifting.

increasing the weight you lift is important but it gets to a point where injury can kill your goals,,i support heavy lifting,,but heavy lifting should give back results especially on the hormones uses in those specific cases.

i charge 1000s of dollars for seminars and you get it here free my friends,,,use it dont abuse it

being exteremly strong is nice,,,being extremly big (lean muscle mass) is nicer. strength does NOT always equal size for the advance bodybuilder/hormone user.

this is a classic case of powerlifting type of training from the video i have seen and it aimed at power and muscle density,, this will not get you a pro card. period

it can get you place 15 in nationals or the usa,,sometimes higher if the wind blows right

take it to the bank
gh15
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Post by: Jujoshu on December 25, 2006, 05:12:25 PM
Much as I hate to admit it GH is right. Both of these guys have excellent strength for bodybuilders but definitely not pro caliber physiques. Despite Justin lifting more than someone like Cutler he doesn't compare all around with him. But once again for bodybuilding-outstanding strength. For a strongman competition..that's a different story.
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Post by: Disgusted on December 25, 2006, 05:19:22 PM
i didnt say that was not impressive because it indeed is,,,what i did say,,, is that this style of lifting will not get you a pro card in most cases,,,take out kuclo of the equation due to age as i said in past times kuclo will have a pro card,,his genetics and build is superior and his age is young.
ronnie coleman got completely fucked from this style of training and did it years before and had the lean muscle mass for this style of lifting.

increasing the weight you lift is important but it gets to a point where injury can kill your goals,,i support heavy lifting,,but heavy lifting should give back results especially on the hormones uses in those specific cases.


This is true. The majority of people seem to never learn this. Most people think that the more you lift the bigger you get and  you will eventually get a pro card. I have seem pleny of guys who train for strength and not get any bigger. You need to know how to separate powerlifting from bodybuiding.
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Post by: The Squadfather on December 25, 2006, 05:20:45 PM
This is true. The majority of people seem to never learn this. Most people think that the more you lift the bigger you get and  you will eventually get a pro card. I have seem pleny of guys who train for strength and not get any bigger. You need to know how to separate powerlifting from bodybuiding.
tell Coleman that.
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on December 25, 2006, 05:45:20 PM
I have seem pleny of guys who train for strength and not get any bigger.
Sure, being strong doesn't equate a pro card. However, say we have two identical twins, after a year of training both of them do 250lbs x 10 on the bench. Over the next 3 years one of them trains for strength and gets up to 350lbs x 10, and the other twin is satisfied and never lifts more than the 250lbs x 10 - who will have a bigger chest?

I would never deny that training heavy can be, and is, dangerous. No argument from me there. But I would also never deny that what Kucklo and Trop do here is building mass the fastest way possible - by getting stronger.

Getting stronger will make you bigger but this type of training has to be weighed against the risk of getting injured. Eventually it will happen. Coleman has incredible injury resistance that allowed him to throw around huge weights and get bigger than anyone but even he eventually got injured.
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Post by: WillRiker on December 26, 2006, 02:23:27 AM
tell Coleman that.

I always thought that the amount of rest between sets is the difference between bodybuilding and powerlifting training. From my own expercience dropping the rest time decreases the weight but increases the amount of mass I built.

Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: The Squadfather on December 26, 2006, 07:37:35 AM
I always thought that the amount of rest between sets is the difference between bodybuilding and powerlifting training. From my own expercience dropping the rest time decreases the weight but increases the amount of mass I built.


hahahahaha, i guess you say that because you're so huge, right "willriker"? ::)
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: HERACLES on December 26, 2006, 08:10:02 AM
that vid clip blew me away. the heaviest I have ever gone on fronts is 275 for 6. haha, monster baby weight next to this rediculous pound you-into chopmeat superman!!!!

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Post by: Blockhead on December 26, 2006, 10:24:06 AM
Kamali couldn't touch the weight these two lift.
What are you talking about, SF? of COURSE kamali could front squat 500 for reps...

 ...of course he'd need about 9 spotters. 2 guys on each end of the bar, 2 in front using their hands, 1 guy doing the 'spoon' on Kamali from behind and one guy spooning the guy spooning Kamlai and 1 guy shouting out encourgements.

 Trop. I like calling him 'Trop'. Sounds like 'Prop'. He's strong as a fkn raging bull and smart to. I'd buy a video of his before I'd buy a Cutler video or another Ronnie video or something. 
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: WillRiker on December 26, 2006, 10:33:15 AM
hahahahaha, i guess you say that because you're so huge, right "willriker"? ::)

I am stunned by your witty reply

Seriously, is that not the reason why Jay Cutler trains so fast ?(little or no rest between sets)
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: slaveboy1980 on December 26, 2006, 10:34:45 AM
na jay trains fast so he can go home and cook meal number 18 of the day.
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: WillRiker on December 26, 2006, 10:39:35 AM
na jay trains fast so he can go home and cook meal number 18 of the day.

Haven't thought about that :)
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: troponin on December 26, 2006, 12:12:18 PM
Thanks for the kind comments everyone. 

The funny thing about the calves is, I get more comments about my calves than anything else. 
In the summer, I always hear, "are you a bodybuilder?  I could tell by your calves." 
Apparently even the normal person has caught on to the small calves trend in bbing!

They look really bad in the video though...


In case anyone who mentioned it is actually interested, I am looking into making a training/nutrition tape. 

I don't know how well it would sell, but I would like to get a video together with training footage, and a segment with real nutritional information. 
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Bigbuthealthy on December 26, 2006, 12:13:42 PM
hahahahaha, i guess you say that because you're so huge, right "willriker"? ::)

Hahaha.
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Blockhead on December 26, 2006, 12:22:50 PM
Thanks for the kind comments everyone. 

The funny thing about the calves is, I get more comments about my calves than anything else. 
In the summer, I always hear, "are you a bodybuilder?  I could tell by your calves." 
Apparently even the normal person has caught on to the small calves trend in bbing!

They look really bad in the video though...


In case anyone who mentioned it is actually interested, I am looking into making a training/nutrition tape. 

I don't know how well it would sell, but I would like to get a video together with training footage, and a segment with real nutritional information. 
Make that happen and I will absolutley buy a dvd, Justin. As I get more expierenced and a little older...dvds like the ones Jay and Ronnie or this guy or that guy has to offer is boring to me now. To see Johnny Pro Bodybuilder in a tank at Golds-venice doing lat pulldowns now...just...bores me.

 I want to learn. I want to learn more and more. I follow your 'work' and somewhat pay attention to DC training and to a small degree apply it to my own training.

 Go for it...make the training dvd explaining DC. Like the old HIT video with Mentzer and Markus Reinhardt? Maybe Dante can be like...the narrator or something while you or Kuclo go through the exercises? Then he can explain his theories throught the sets etc...

 Then a whole series or segment where you explain YOUR nutritional theories and contest prep ideas or offseason mass phase principles etc...

 Just food for thought.
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: body88 on December 26, 2006, 12:24:48 PM
-you gotta know the sport a little better to understand where i come from,,

-you also need to learn from my posts instead of runnin your 20 year old mouths for nothing,,the more you will read my posts the more chances you have at national placing in the usa or abroad

-i get plenty of private messges that i try to answer yet not all i do due to privacy issues and you got to understand it.

-blue stars are not wanted by me because i want to stay annonimous,,,my email that was provided when registtarion occured is not my email thus email you write there wont get to me,,so is the birthdate provided,,

-im doing a big favour to majority of greenies that aim at high level of competition by opening their eyes since i am god when it comes to hormones,,and not only in the usa

- to all the ones who concerned that dea will come,,,i say you have nothing to worry about because they look for narcs and that is a diff section of bodybuilding that i stay out of,,also when the goods are not kept in usa you are as safe as possible,,

- inorder to be able to survive that long,,you gotta know the industry well and stay as far from fire as possible (palumbo,,the murderer,,you gotta know how to use and control them and put them in an isolated box so when they get cought they know nothing about anything) i shouldnt tell you that but hey its xmas why not ;)


- the guy in question in the video pesented is HORMONIZED TO THE MAX. and yes yes i do support true protien,,they are ok,,,but keep it real fellas,,just keep it real

- if you will pay attention closely how luke improved his chest,,,it wasnt by super heavy bench,,,and he is how much ? 280 oh ya ,,,

insted of running your mouth just lay back,,read,,,take the right hormones and be proud of it,,,and follow my advice if you wanna get anywhere in this industry.



Haha, why is none of this post in broken English? You used to make your posts look like you did not speak the language. Hahah, fucking fraud.


This guys thinks he is a god? Haha, good luck with dialysis ya sped.
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: WillRiker on December 26, 2006, 03:27:11 PM
Hahaha.

hahaha= I kiss squadfathers ass...  ::)
Title: Re: Look at this beast front squatting 500 for 8!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Mr. Michael Moore on December 26, 2006, 04:34:35 PM
This is true. The majority of people seem to never learn this. Most people think that the more you lift the bigger you get and  you will eventually get a pro card. I have seem pleny of guys who train for strength and not get any bigger. You need to know how to separate powerlifting from bodybuiding.

Why don't you save this post and YOUR post to show your buddy Kamali ??