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Title: Fuck Cancer - #1 killer
Post by: tacobender on November 18, 2012, 05:16:05 AM
ITS TAKEN BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS!!!! NOW IM HOURS AWAY FROM LOSING MY GRANDMOTHER!!! I HOPE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS ARENT GOING THRU THIS BULLSHIT!!!BE SAFE OUT THERE AND MUCH LOVE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: hrspwr on November 18, 2012, 05:49:25 AM
Had an uncle, 80, die from cancer friday.  Lost an aunt, 51, in september. My budd lost his wife, 70, one year ago and I know at least 3 more people it is killing right now. Yes fuck cancer is putting it mildly.
 sorry about the members of your family it is killing.
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Post by: Anglo on November 18, 2012, 05:57:26 AM
For future reference

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Post by: Marty Champions on November 18, 2012, 06:00:25 AM
apparently missed posts by johnny falcon caused this
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Post by: rocco-x on November 18, 2012, 07:40:34 AM
yes it does suck.runs on both sides of my family.both my fathers parents had it,his sister and even my father had 2 bouts of throat cancer which he beat.my mothers mother had it multiple times and now her younger brother has bone cance.now at 45 i know i'm due for the old finger in the ass for a prostrate exam since throughout the yrs with what i've used and just the fact that the genes for it are in me it's time for me to start getting looked at...

hope your family pulls thru with this.i know it hurts watching someone you love suffer in pain like this.hang in there taco...
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Post by: Krankenstein on November 18, 2012, 07:47:50 AM
apparently missed posts by johnny falcon caused this

Dude, you are a delusional fat ass.  Whats your next cure/great hypothesis? Directly injecting the paint thinner? 

Do a few push aways from the table tubby.

As far as cancer goes...fuck it!!!
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Post by: claymore on November 18, 2012, 08:03:41 AM
ITS TAKEN BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS!!!! NOW IM HOURS AWAY FROM LOSING MY GRANDMOTHER!!! I HOPE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS ARENT GOING THRU THIS BULLSHIT!!!BE SAFE OUT THERE AND MUCH LOVE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to hear this my friend... :(
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Post by: Irongrip400 on November 18, 2012, 08:05:24 AM
Yes, cancer is a guy.
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Post by: Krankenstein on November 18, 2012, 08:29:54 AM
yes it does suck.runs on both sides of my family.both my fathers parents had it,his sister and even my father had 2 bouts of throat cancer which he beat.my mothers mother had it multiple times and now her younger brother has bone cance.now at 45 i know i'm due for the old finger in the ass for a prostrate exam since throughout the yrs with what i've used and just the fact that the genes for it are in me it's time for me to start getting looked at...

hope your family pulls thru with this.i know it hurts watching someone you love suffer in pain like this.hang in there taco...

FYI - prostate (only one 'R')

Yeah, the old finger in the ass is far from pleasant.  Had mine done recently.  Small female indian doctor.  Her fingers must have telescoped about 3 - 4 inches after I turned around because it did not seem like the same hand that I saw.
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Post by: flinstones1 on November 18, 2012, 08:53:55 AM
mom had breast cancer :-\
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 18, 2012, 08:54:36 AM
My Dad died from it last year and 3 other people in my family currently have cancer.

Cancer is big business.  They will NEVER cure it, just "treat" it... that way they can keep selling people their poisons.

The entire medical industry is a money making scam.
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Post by: Obvious Gimmick on November 18, 2012, 09:07:12 AM
Sorry to here that chief. The reaper will come for us all someday

Ask not for whom the bell tolls
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Post by: gracie bjj on November 18, 2012, 09:18:07 AM
cancer sucks but it really sucks to see little kids with it, they never even started to live
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Post by: Donny on November 18, 2012, 09:23:38 AM
I know what it´s like my Mother died in 1986 of Cancer and i only found out she had it when she died as i was in Canada on field Exercises. It was a womans thing and they found out too late as she never went for check ups as women do today.. cancer is a terrible thing. My Family never told me until it happend. Did not want me to worry as i was overseas.. :(
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Post by: littledumbells on November 18, 2012, 09:43:56 AM
My Dad died from it last year and 3 other people in my family currently have cancer.

Cancer is big business.  They will NEVER cure it, just "treat" it... that way they can keep selling people their poisons.

The entire medical industry is a money making scam.

Cancer is big business.  They will NEVER cure it, just "treat" it...

  This, the scary opinion, is correct. Just what will happen to all the foundations, clinics, research money, etc that pays salaries to many many people. It is not in anyones best interest, except the patient, to find a cure. Same with illegal immigration or the war on drugs. So many jobs are tied to these that they depend on the problem to have jobs and funding
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Post by: Maddy on November 18, 2012, 09:48:40 AM
ITS TAKEN BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS!!!! NOW IM HOURS AWAY FROM LOSING MY GRANDMOTHER!!! I HOPE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS ARENT GOING THRU THIS BULLSHIT!!!BE SAFE OUT THERE AND MUCH LOVE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!

Alex23
this is
sad news
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Post by: Iceman1981 on November 18, 2012, 09:51:23 AM
ITS TAKEN BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS!!!! NOW IM HOURS AWAY FROM LOSING MY GRANDMOTHER!!! I HOPE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS ARENT GOING THRU THIS BULLSHIT!!!BE SAFE OUT THERE AND MUCH LOVE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!

I lost my Grandmother to cancer.
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Post by: Powerlift66 on November 18, 2012, 10:10:58 AM
2 family members in their 40's battling it now, not fun... (brother and bro-inlaw)..
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Post by: freespirit on November 18, 2012, 10:16:56 AM
(http://undergroundhealthreporter.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/baking-soda-and-cancer-225x300.jpg)
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Post by: ether on November 18, 2012, 01:01:52 PM
My Dad died from it last year and 3 other people in my family currently have cancer.

Cancer is big business.  They will NEVER cure it, just "treat" it... that way they can keep selling people their poisons.

The entire medical industry is a money making scam.

And who exactly is "they" genius

I make my living treating cancer patients. Studied 33 years to do it.

I would gladly be out of a job to stop seeing these people suffer to their death.

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Post by: Natural Man on November 18, 2012, 01:13:16 PM


I would gladly be out of a job to stop seeing these people suffer to their death.


i doubt it...

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Post by: hench on November 18, 2012, 01:26:46 PM
very interesting!
For future reference


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Post by: da_vinci on November 18, 2012, 01:34:48 PM
There's way more money in actually CURING cancer as it's so prevailent, no need for these conspiracy theories. That aside - do any of you have at least a basic understanding of what actually IS cancer and how it begins/evolves/etc..? I guess - no, as it's a VERY complicated dissease. Basically - the day cancer will start to seriously go away, will be the day we'll be able to control the cellular processes anough to make AGING slow down/stop or even - reverse.
 FUCK AGING, not cancer, as it's the MAIN culprit for basically all the major disseases (which not by a mistake are called "Old age dissease"). I'm amazed how majority of people are still living in that "deathist" trance, feeling helpless, etc.. when IN FACT - that process is controllable, it's just a matter of time AND funding) before it'll be taken under a serious control. Worry about that, not about cancer, cardiovascular dissease or other shit, that's just "fixing" the consequences, not the main cause). SOme of you may get cancer, some CVD, some alzheimers and all the other big "names", but one thing that will haunt all is AGING, how about beating this one? Yeah, I'm pretty sure not many of people are capable of thinking "outside the box", but these who are - support the initiatives like SENS, The Manhattan project, etc..
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Post by: xpac2 on November 18, 2012, 01:37:07 PM
For future reference



Stupidest most irresponsible thing that Ive seen. Morons who believe in this nonsense are a danger to society
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Post by: arce1988 on November 18, 2012, 02:10:34 PM
 :(
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Post by: peruke on November 18, 2012, 02:50:56 PM
ITS TAKEN BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS!!!! NOW IM HOURS AWAY FROM LOSING MY GRANDMOTHER!!! I HOPE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS ARENT GOING THRU THIS BULLSHIT!!!BE SAFE OUT THERE AND MUCH LOVE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!

I have lost family to it too!!   I am sorry about your loss....
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Post by: SF1900 on November 18, 2012, 02:51:16 PM
TB, sorry for your loss.

Ive lost my grandma and aunt to cancer.

4 people from my junior high school also died of cancer.

My biggest fear is getting cancer. Seems like its so prevalent. Very scary.
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Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on November 18, 2012, 04:11:56 PM
9 posts and you are a Getbigger?

Your situation is unfortunate.

Respect,

THE BEEF

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Post by: Natural Man on November 18, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
fuck war too, war is bad, im against wars.
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Post by: RadOncDoc on November 18, 2012, 04:41:42 PM
There's way more money in actually CURING cancer as it's so prevailent, no need for these conspiracy theories. That aside - do any of you have at least a basic understanding of what actually IS cancer and how it begins/evolves/etc..? I guess - no, as it's a VERY complicated dissease. Basically - the day cancer will start to seriously go away, will be the day we'll be able to control the cellular processes anough to make AGING slow down/stop or even - reverse.
 FUCK AGING, not cancer, as it's the MAIN culprit for basically all the major disseases (which not by a mistake are called "Old age dissease"). I'm amazed how majority of people are still living in that "deathist" trance, feeling helpless, etc.. when IN FACT - that process is controllable, it's just a matter of time AND funding) before it'll be taken under a serious control. Worry about that, not about cancer, cardiovascular dissease or other shit, that's just "fixing" the consequences, not the main cause). SOme of you may get cancer, some CVD, some alzheimers and all the other big "names", but one thing that will haunt all is AGING, how about beating this one? Yeah, I'm pretty sure not many of people are capable of thinking "outside the box", but these who are - support the initiatives like SENS, The Manhattan project, etc..

Exactly. All this talk about "holding back" a cure for profit is fu**ing nonsense. Cancer is an exceptionally complicated disease with no two cancers the same. Each cancer has a unique genetic profile even if it originates from the same type of cell. So there will never be a "cure" for cancer. More important than anything, these cancer cells are ALMOST normal, meaning it isn't easy to selectively kill them over the normal cells. That's why chemotherapy is associated with such serious side effects. The principles of microevolution are also very much at work in cancer biology. By the time a cancer is discovered, it's replicated to billions of cells. And when you have billions of cells, there is a damn good chance that one of them will have "accidentally" accumulated a mutation that renders it resistant to medication.
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Post by: Viking11 on November 18, 2012, 04:46:29 PM
Sorry to hear this. I understand the pain, anger and frustration. I lost my mother to  (squamous cell) tongue cancer in 2003.  She was the glue of the family. Things haven't been the same since she got sick.  Best wishes for your family.
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Post by: kawaks on November 18, 2012, 06:20:06 PM
There's way more money in actually CURING cancer as it's so prevailent, no need for these conspiracy theories. That aside - do any of you have at least a basic understanding of what actually IS cancer and how it begins/evolves/etc..? I guess - no, as it's a VERY complicated dissease. Basically - the day cancer will start to seriously go away, will be the day we'll be able to control the cellular processes anough to make AGING slow down/stop or even - reverse.
 FUCK AGING, not cancer, as it's the MAIN culprit for basically all the major disseases (which not by a mistake are called "Old age dissease"). I'm amazed how majority of people are still living in that "deathist" trance, feeling helpless, etc.. when IN FACT - that process is controllable, it's just a matter of time AND funding) before it'll be taken under a serious control. Worry about that, not about cancer, cardiovascular dissease or other shit, that's just "fixing" the consequences, not the main cause). SOme of you may get cancer, some CVD, some alzheimers and all the other big "names", but one thing that will haunt all is AGING, how about beating this one? Yeah, I'm pretty sure not many of people are capable of thinking "outside the box", but these who are - support the initiatives like SENS, The Manhattan project, etc..

Its not "AGING" its the one directional ENTROPY of TIME: from an orderly start to eventual disorder that kills us, life, the universe, EVERYTHING!

Unfortunately we can't reverse "aging" anymore than we can reverse time.

Malformed DNA cell replication AKA 'cancer' must be respected for it's ability to adapt and survive.
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Post by: Viking11 on November 18, 2012, 07:02:02 PM
Its not "AGING" its the one directional ENTROPY of TIME: from an orderly start to eventual disorder that kills us, life, the universe, EVERYTHING!

Unfortunately we can't reverse "aging" anymore than we can reverse time.

Malformed DNA cell replication AKA 'cancer' must be respected for it's ability to adapt and survive.
Seriously?  It kills the host. And itself with it. Dumbass.
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Post by: jude2 on November 18, 2012, 07:25:46 PM
Merkel cell cancer killed my best friend in 6 months.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 18, 2012, 08:18:54 PM
cancer sucks but it really sucks to see little kids with it, they never even started to live

this^^^heart breaking
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Post by: sync pulse on November 18, 2012, 08:42:40 PM
Paleontologists have found fossils of dinosaurs that had cancer...
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 18, 2012, 08:57:00 PM
Paleontologists have found fossils of dinosaurs that had cancer...

Heard the dinosaurs cured cancer so the Hierarchy had to kill off the dinosaurs and the car that runs on water
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Post by: The True Adonis on November 18, 2012, 09:01:54 PM
Heard the dinosaurs cured cancer so the Hierarchy had to kill off the dinosaurs and the car that runs on water
What about the Tyrannosaurus in Benghazi or Building 11 that Godzilla brought down on September 11th?
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 18, 2012, 09:04:27 PM
What about the Tyrannosaurus in Benghazi or Building 11 that Godzilla brought down on September 11th?

lol
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Post by: Krankenstein on November 18, 2012, 09:23:58 PM
Paleontologists have found fossils of dinosaurs that had cancer...

Cancer through history timeline

 
80 million years ago 
Dinosaur bone fossils from this period show possible evidence of containing cancerous cells.

~ 500,000 BC
Tumour on bone found belonging to our pre-human ancestors.

3000 BC
Evidence of cancer found in Egyptian mummies from this period.

2500-1600 BC
Egyptian papyruses contain the earliest written records of cancer. There is a description of eight cases of tumours or ulcers of the breast, including whether each is treatable.

Others describe treatments including cutting out with a knife or burning with red-hot irons. Stomach cancer was treated with boiled barley mixed with dates, and cancer of the uterus by a concoction of fresh dates mixed with pig's brain introduced into the vagina.

400 BC
Evidence of cancer found in mummies of pre-Columbian Incas of Peru.

300 BC
Hippocrates, the Greek 'Father of Medicine', named a range of tumours, lumps and bumps as carcinos (Greek word meaning crab) and carcinoma. He also attempted to classify tumours.
 
Roman writer Galen described tumours as cancer because they had roots spreading out like the legs of a crab. He thought cancer was caused by too much black bile in the body, which he thought to be corrosive.

50 AD
Like the Greeks, the Romans found that some tumours could be removed by surgery and cauterised (burnt), but no medicine seemed to work. They found that surgery sometimes increased the spread of the cancer, or that tumours sometimes grew again.

400 AD
Hindu physician and surgeon Susrata suggested different treatments for different types of cancer, including no treatment for cancers that had spread. Other treatments included removal with a knife, cautery and corrosive ointments.

500 -1500 AD
Little progress was made in understanding cancer. It was still believed to be caused by too much black bile. Surgery and cautery were used on smaller tumours.

Caustic (burning) pastes were used for control of more extensive cancer. These pastes often contained toxic plant based preparations such as hemlock or metals. Examples of metals included iron, copper, zinc, silver, gold, mercury and particularly lead and arsenic.

Phlebotomy (blood-letting), diet, herbal medicines, powder of crab and other symbolic charms were used.
 
1500
Autopsies (examining bodies to find out the cause of death) were conducted more often and understanding of internal cancers began to improve.

New theories of cancer began emerging to challenge Galen’s ‘excess of black bile’ idea, including Paracelsus’s theory that concentrations of mineral salts were the cause of cancer.

1650
The development of microscopes and better understanding of cells and the blood and lymphatic systems were major steps in improving understanding of cancer.

Harvey’s discovery of the circulation of the blood, and Leeuwenhoek and Malpighi’s inspection of red blood cells under the first microscopes finally proved that black bile did not exist. Descartes developed a ‘sour lump’ theory based on the discovery of the lymph system. He thought a ‘sour lump’ would develop cancer.

1750 
Causes for some cancers were suggested. For example, snuff was linked to cancer in the nose and soot to scrotal cancer in chimney sweeps. Some people thought cancer was an infectious disease, or caused by a cancer toxin.

1840-1900
Improved microscopes enabled detailed studies of plant and animal cells and led to an understanding that tissue growth was a result of cell multiplication.  Johannes Muller applied this to cancer, and helped establish the concept of cancer as abnormal cell growth.

Subsequently, Virchow contributed to our knowledge of the stages of tumour formation and the structure of the cancer cell. Other researchers showed that cancer cells travelled from one organ to another via the blood or lymph.

Pasteur’s discoveries suggested that germs may be responsible for some cancers. Numerous efforts to prove this in later decades were unsuccessful.

Important discoveries in anaesthetics and control of infection improved surgical methods. Billroth performed a successful operation for stomach cancer and Halsted developed a radical operation for breast cancer.

1895
X-rays were discovered.

1898
The radioactive substance, radium was discovered. It is now used to treat some types of cancer.

1900
Hundreds of materials, both man-made and natural, were recognised as causes of cancer (carcinogens). Improvements were made identifying diseases and the changes those diseases bring about in the body, due to advances in areas of science such as physiology, biochemistry and molecular biology.

1900-1950
Radiotherapy which is the  use of radiation to kill cancer cells or stop them dividing was developed as a treatment.

1945
Chemotherapy which is the use of drugs to treat cancer was tested. The first chemotherapy drug was based on mustard gas, that had been used during the war. Chemotherapy drugs are toxic to all cells, not just cancer cells.

1995 
Two genes (BRCA1 & BRAC2) are identified that increase the risk of breast cancer.

2003 
The human genome is sequenced. Scientists mapped the location of every gene within chromosomes and deciphered the complete sequence of the genome’s 3 billion nucleotides.

Since then, The Cancer Genome Atlas Project is looking to identify the complete set of genes associated with various forms of cancer. The project will produce a list of all mutations associated with cancerous tumours. It will be used to develop new strategies for preventing, diagnosing and treating cancer.
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Post by: kawaks on November 18, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
Seriously?  It kills the host. And itself with it. Dumbass.

Order to disorder. Learn to read manbimbo!
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Post by: Krankenstein on November 18, 2012, 09:27:45 PM
Oh, forgot

2012
Obese message board poster "Johnny Falcon" comes up with cure for cancer when thousands and thousands of more brilliant minds could not.  Other message poster "GH15" hides 'cure' due to his Luna security oath as well as the pleadings of nirubibooboo aliens
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Post by: quadzilla456 on November 18, 2012, 09:29:03 PM
ITS TAKEN BOTH MY GRANDFATHERS!!!! NOW IM HOURS AWAY FROM LOSING MY GRANDMOTHER!!! I HOPE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS ARENT GOING THRU THIS BULLSHIT!!!BE SAFE OUT THERE AND MUCH LOVE MY FELLOW GETBIGGERS!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear this. Hang in. My wife's mother passed away from Cancer a few years ago. We saw her die in front of us and it was terrible to see the family's sorrow.
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Post by: Rudee on November 18, 2012, 09:59:21 PM
Cancer indeed sucks.  According to statistics, a good percentage of people reading this thread will die of cancer at a future date.   I've had people very close to me..  Formerly healthy 200lb men eaten away to half their bodyweight in just a few months because of Cancer eating them.   Just a terrible disease.   I hope they find a cure for this disease someday.   
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Post by: mrgut on November 18, 2012, 10:49:51 PM
I hear ya. Lost my dad just a couple weeks ago to cancer.
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Post by: tacobender on November 18, 2012, 11:30:16 PM
thxguys i appreciate all the condolences   :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: Big Chiro Flex on November 18, 2012, 11:57:28 PM
Stupidest most irresponsible thing that Ive seen. Morons who believe in this nonsense are a danger to society
What is your education background? What do you believe regarding oncology then?  Do you feel the current medical approach is best?   Please take a fucking look around and open your eyes. The "poison, cut, nuke" method is obviously a major FAIL. Do you know that breast cancer doesn't exist in poor African countries? But it's rising exponentially every year in the US.  There's a reason Americans are expected to see a 75% increase in cancer diagnoses by the year 2030...it's not "cancers fault", it's our own for allowing our bodies to create a friendly environment for cancer to thrive. Cancer is simply the REACTION.

I have a close friend named Charlie Majors whos also a doctor that had stage 4 brain cancer. He followed many of the principles outlined in this video, along with a few others (pm me for details), and completely recovered and killed his cancer. He has published a book regarding his journey and his "controversial" approach to battling cancer. It's not rocket science here. The guy understood the disease and the principles of healing, and followed the necessary steps. Cancer is a response mechanism to a malfunctioning cell. The toxic environment and inadequate nervous system is what allows cancer to proliferate. It is IMPOSSIBLE for cancer cells to "turn on" if your nervous system is functioning optimally and your body is in a state of alkalosis.

 We know what cancer needs to thrive: acidic environment, lack of O2, and sugar. Give your body the opposite of this and cancer can not continue to grow and will die.

-Cancer Meltdown-
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Post by: cephissus on November 19, 2012, 12:01:51 AM
We know what cancer needs to thrive: acidic environment, lack of O2, and sugar. Give your body the opposite of this and cancer can not continue to grow and will die.

-Cancer Meltdown-

what's in your tupperware these days, chiro?

???
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Post by: Big Chiro Flex on November 19, 2012, 12:04:43 AM
what's in your tupperware these days, chiro?

???
Snickers ice cream bars (pre workout)
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Post by: cephissus on November 19, 2012, 12:09:44 AM
Snickers ice cream bars (pre workout)

come on bro, be level with me
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 12:17:03 AM
In my case the key to beating cancer was early detection. After having a prostatectomy last July, my PSA is down to .02 which means the cancer is undetectable. Let's hope it stays that way!
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Post by: falco on November 19, 2012, 02:30:14 AM
Stanger than old people dying of cancer is LOTS of fiends in their 20's and 30's having it. Not even talking about 1-2 year old babies. It is spreading like the flu.
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Post by: gracie bjj on November 19, 2012, 06:01:15 AM
In my case the key to beating cancer was early detection. After having a prostatectomy last July, my PSA is down to .02 which means the cancer is undetectable. Let's hope it stays that way!


primemuscle did u have to ask for the prostatectomy or did the doctor recommend it? im just curious cause i hear horror stories of guys getting normal psa readings n stuff only to find out they have cancer when its to late, im glad your doing okay n recovering
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Post by: DEFCON on November 19, 2012, 06:25:37 AM
Cancer is big business.  They will NEVER cure it, just "treat" it...

  This, the scary opinion, is correct. Just what will happen to all the foundations, clinics, research money, etc that pays salaries to many many people. It is not in anyones best interest, except the patient, to find a cure. Same with illegal immigration or the war on drugs. So many jobs are tied to these that they depend on the problem to have jobs and funding

This idea is just bullshit.  There are so many cancers out there that a cure for all of them is probably hundreds of years away.  We have many great advancements in some cancers already.
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Post by: El Diablo Blanco on November 19, 2012, 07:39:53 AM
stopping cancer?  Take away all cellular and wireless technology, get rid of pesticides and that would be a good start
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Post by: da_vinci on November 19, 2012, 07:46:27 AM
stopping cancer?  Take away all cellular and wireless technology, get rid of pesticides and that would be a good start

No that wouldn't. Cancer is closely tied to cell senescence (genes like p65 and alike genes, involved in the tissue renewal/cell replication, etc.. AND - control of tumor formation). A good start would be to start actually curing the senescence, everything else is just a blow against the wind.

Tho' targeted therapies and other new kind of stuff will be available relatively soon, mortality from cancer should not be higher than from a flu currently, in like 15-20 years (progress is not linear, it's exponential, so don't base your predictions on a current pace of progress/achievements) so these in their 20's/30's should be pretty calm regarding that. But who cares - many other old age related illness will persist, a general degenaration and decay of a cellular structures. Tho' SOMEHOW (!) dieing from cancer is "wrong", but dieing from an old age is considered "natural" and even "good" (da fukk?)..
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Post by: Raymondo on November 19, 2012, 07:53:14 AM
No that wouldn't. Cancer is closely tied to cell senescence (genes like p65 and alike genes, involved in the tissue renewal/cell replication, etc.. AND - control of tumor formation). A good start would be to start actually curing the senescence, everything else is just a blow against the wind.

Tho' targeted therapies and other new kind of stuff will be available relatively soon, mortality from cancer should not be higher than from a flu currently, in like 15-20 years (progress is not linear, it's exponential, so don't base your predictions on a current pace of progress/achievements) so these in their 20's/30's should be pretty calm regarding that. But who cares - many other old age related illness will persist, a general degenaration and decay of a cellular structures. Tho' SOMEHOW (!) dieing from cancer is "wrong", but dieing from an old age is considered "natural" and even "good" (da fukk?)..

...
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Post by: cephissus on November 19, 2012, 11:37:33 AM
...

ray, want  to wager on the source of da_vinci's immense, childlike fear of death? ;D
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Post by: Raymondo on November 19, 2012, 11:51:15 AM
ray, want  to wager on the source of da_vinci's immense, childlike fear of death? ;D

haha

da_vinci is not bad, I just think he takes wackos like ray kurzweil too seriously. Kurzweil thinks he will resurrect his dead father using "nanomachines".
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 12:02:36 PM
My father died from stomach cancer. My maternal grandmother died from bone cancer. My maternal aunt died from brain cancer. My mom had cervical cancer. My fraternal aunt died from bone cancer. My fraternal grandfather died from complications caused by a life long struggle with leukemia. There is probably more, but this is what I know about.

The medical profession once held that any cancer in your family put you at risk for getting it....earlier rather than later. These days the belief is that one is genetically predisposed to more specific cancers. Hence, my having prostate cancer is not necessarily the result of my forefathers and relatives having cancers.

What I know for certain is that I have experienced a few low-grade "pre-cancers" in the past, all of which were caught and treated early on because my doctors were on guard for my getting cancer. Had it not been for my family history, my doctors and I may not have been a diligent.

Still, it is wise to realize that medical science is ever changing. This is one reason it is known as the "practice" of medicine....they are just "practicing" in hopes of getting it right someday.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 12:08:45 PM
primemuscle did u have to ask for the prostatectomy or did the doctor recommend it? im just curious cause i hear horror stories of guys getting normal psa readings n stuff only to find out they have cancer when its to late, im glad your doing okay n recovering

After it was determined that I had prostate cancer as a result of two biopsies, my doctor laid out all the options for me. Because I am fairly young and very healthy, the option to completely remove the prostate seemed the best to me. However, I joined a prostate cancer group and went to several meeting where I met men who chose other options, such as do nothing, radiation, chemical castration, and chemotherapy. In each of these choices there were good and bad results. Ultimately, my experience with this group confirmed to me that the Da Vinci prostatectomy was the best choice for me.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: Dr Dutch on November 19, 2012, 12:40:03 PM
Cancer is more than 80% genetics. You can live like a health guru all your life, but if your (grand)parents died from cancer, best bet is that you will get it too. Sad but true...
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on November 19, 2012, 12:42:25 PM
Cancer is more than 80% genetics. You can live like a health guru all your life, but if your (grand)parents died from cancer, best bet is that you will get it too. Sad but true...
There is research that disputes this bro.  I've seen data indicating as low as 20% is "due to genetics."  Remember that environment determines how genes are expressed.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: da_vinci on November 19, 2012, 12:56:52 PM
ray, want  to wager on the source of da_vinci's immense, childlike fear of death? ;D

Consciously I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid of a slow degeneration, called aging. There's nothing to be afraid of death, a nothingness.. Wait a min - are you trying to say that death is a good thing and we should accept it (as a biochemical structure, which main goal is to SURVIVE and LIVE)?
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: da_vinci on November 19, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
haha

da_vinci is not bad, I just think he takes wackos like ray kurzweil too seriously. Kurzweil thinks he will resurrect his dead father using "nanomachines".

He's not a wacko. An extremly intelligent visionaire - yes. As for his father - I guess that was more for a "plot" of the movie, aside that - it's probably in SOME sense possible with a very poerwful AI, at least in a cyber way, to reconstruct "kind of" a personality of his father, out of all these writings, personal data, etc.. Theoretically it's feasible, even if very far stretched.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on November 19, 2012, 01:16:39 PM
Keep your yeast levels in your body down
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: sync pulse on November 19, 2012, 05:57:24 PM
stopping cancer?  Take away all cellular and wireless technology, get rid of pesticides and that would be a good start

Organisms developed cancer millennia ago when there were no pesticides or nonionizing radiation...cellular reproduction sometimes is just not perfect.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: cephissus on November 19, 2012, 06:04:01 PM
Consciously I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid of a slow degeneration, called aging. There's nothing to be afraid of death, a nothingness.. Wait a min - are you trying to say that death is a good thing and we should accept it (as a biochemical structure, which main goal is to SURVIVE and LIVE)?

what's the difference between surviving and living?
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: RadOncDoc on November 19, 2012, 07:55:28 PM
No that wouldn't. Cancer is closely tied to cell senescence (genes like p65 and alike genes, involved in the tissue renewal/cell replication, etc.. AND - control of tumor formation). A good start would be to start actually curing the senescence, everything else is just a blow against the wind.

Tho' targeted therapies and other new kind of stuff will be available relatively soon, mortality from cancer should not be higher than from a flu currently, in like 15-20 years (progress is not linear, it's exponential, so don't base your predictions on a current pace of progress/achievements) so these in their 20's/30's should be pretty calm regarding that. But who cares - many other old age related illness will persist, a general degenaration and decay of a cellular structures. Tho' SOMEHOW (!) dieing from cancer is "wrong", but dieing from an old age is considered "natural" and even "good" (da fukk?)..

Targeted therapies are useful in a few select cancers and even then the effects are short-lived. Off the top of my head, I can think of one or two cancers-CML and GIST-where a targeted therapy has sustained benefit, but other than that, eventually the cells become resistant.  There are so many pathways disrupted in cancer cells that targeting one specific receptor, for example (which is what these targeted therapies do), will only temporarily halt growth, but never cure the patient. The bottom line is the best way to cure cancer is to catch it early before it's spread. After it's spread, it's acquired enough genetic changes to make it almost impossible to cure (save for the few exquisitely chemo-sensitive cancers). And in case you can't tell from my screen name, I treat this stuff for a living.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 11:17:52 PM
what's the difference between surviving and living?

Not that I know the answer to this, but I think the difference is living is all about enjoying life while surviving is all about getting to the next day alive regardless of how that is accomplished.
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: bigkubby on November 19, 2012, 11:30:16 PM
WTF IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? FUCK OFF guy!!!!
Title: Re: FUCK CANCER!!!
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 11:37:21 PM
WTF IS THE POINT OF THIS THREAD? FUCK OFF guy!!!!

I guess you are fairly dense.