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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Mr.1derful on December 26, 2008, 02:58:25 PM
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A picture is worth a thousand threads. ;)
Photo courtesy of ND.
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Ronnie wins IMO
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::) here we go again
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Dorian is the winner. It's evident.
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What lots of people do not understand is that the white guys have to overcome a lot more to compete with someone like Ronnie, genetically speaking.
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Dorian wins
...even though bodybuilding is not a sport!
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I like Ronnie better. More separation throughout the body.
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from the same contest:
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ND is famous for choosing the worst shots of ronnie he can find from that contest - some of which he is not even flexing yet, only because everyone (including his go-to pro dorian quote person Peter McGough) says its the greatest physique ever seen onstage...
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hey Mr. 1duhful, check out ronnie's 247 pounds embarassing your 257 puffy pounds of dorian:
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epic thread fail, by the way: if you are going to start another ronnie dorian thread, at least pick a year where ronnie is out of shape.
because if you don't, its game over dorian as always:
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LOL
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Dorian is a very pale dude like Wolf. Give him the same colour as Ronnie and it's lights out.
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What lots of people do not understand is that the white guys have to overcome a lot more to compete with someone like Ronnie, genetically speaking.
It doesn't matter what the white guys have to overcome. Competitive bodybuilding should be about who looks the best on contest day, regardless of anything else.
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Dorian is a very pale dude like Wolf. Give him the same colour as Ronnie and it's lights out.
yeah, and if you gave him better arms, quads, taper, a smaller waist and better muscle shape, he might be close to a peak post Mr. O win ronnie then...
too bad we couldnt do that...
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from the same contest:
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ND is famous for choosing the worst shots of ronnie he can find from that contest - some of which he is not even flexing yet, only because everyone (including his go-to pro dorian quote person Peter McGough) says its the greatest physique ever seen onstage...
McGough also said Dorian would beat that too ;)
Ronnie at 247 pounds can't beat Dorian it's just not in the cards he's to small he's not as hard or as dry and he doesn't have the balance or the technical posing skills
and I'm glad you agree 2001 is Ronnie's best and not 1999 LMFAO
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yeah, and if you gave him better arms, quads, taper, a smaller waist and better muscle shape, he might be close to a peak post Mr. O win ronnie then...
too bad we couldnt do that...
nice photoshopped pic BTW and you just got done bitching about me picking ' bad ' pics of Ronnie and what do you do? lmfao
Dorian beats Ronnie in muscular bulk , balanced development , density & dryness and posing & presentation
Dorian at 269 pounds would make Ronnie look small and like a collection of mismatched parts
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LOL
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lol at your slanted fan-boy ' comparison ' in which Ronnie despite being a full 10 pounds lighter is some how bigger ::)
Quote from John Balik, commenting on the 96 O:
"Dorian Yates looked absolutely fantastic. He was so freaking dense and so freaking ripped and dry, that he actually looked bigger than all the 280 lbs competitors, even though he tipped the scales at 255 lbs."
Sorry moron a 247 pound Ronnie isn't making Dorian at 257 pounds look small ;)
Quote from Lou Ferrigno, after the 1993 O:
"Dorian won. He is as big as I am, but with a better overall frame. I knew I was competing for second place the minute he stepped onstage."
ferrigno couldn't do it at 318 pounds Ronnie isn't doing it at 247 pounds MAX
I.F.B.B. judge Roger Schwab
Man-mountain Dorian Yates was certainly the top gun in the 1993 Mr Olympia shootout. He was much bigger , better and harder than ever , and while his is never the prettiest physique on stage , he's assuredly the most God-awful muscular superman this sport has yet seen. Though Yates was lighter than Lou Ferrigno or Paul Dillett , he appeared to be the biggest man on stage-by far- and the hardest , dominating from beginning to end and every step in between.
Sorry Ronnie at 247 pounds or even his less than perfect 1999 form at 257 pounds could NOT make Dorian look small , only in your fantasy fan-boy comparisons where you scale Dorian small lol reality owns all fan-boys
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sorry ND, but that pic is not photoshopped, as much as you would like it to be...
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
the clips are all over the net and the world.
ronnie 99 was just that damn good.
sorry that it doesn't fit your agenda...
but life isn't alway fair, just as dorian never had ronnie's shape, taper etc.
ronnie 99 was really that good and there is nothing you can do about it..
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hulkster you're such a fucking loser, you present an argument way before anyone even posts.. get a grip sadcunt
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sorry ND, but that pic is not photoshopped, as much as you would like it to be...
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
the clips are all over the net and the world.
ronnie 99 was just that damn good.
sorry that it doesn't fit your agenda...
but life isn't alway fair, just as dorian never had ronnie's shape, taper etc.
ronnie 99 was really that good and there is nothing you can do about it..
Stop posting the link to the idiot who photoshopped them , moron that's Bizzy's video , he admitted to photshopping screeencaps , a professional graphic artist busted him doing it and so did Kevin Horton , stop posing enhanced screencaps as proof of anything just like your bullshit comparison pics where Ronnie is bigger than Dorian despite being much lighter , you have acsess to the Muscletime pics stop using worked ones
And I agree Dorian never had Ronnie's shape and taper , etc and he never needed to beat him year in and year out ;)
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hulkster you're such a fucking loser, you present an argument way before anyone even posts.. get a grip sadcunt
lmfao anytime anyone typed the name Dorian he has this obsession to post , Dorian owns him like he own Ronnie
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sorry ND, but that pic is not photoshopped, as much as you would like it to be...
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
the clips are all over the net and the world.
ronnie 99 was just that damn good.
sorry that it doesn't fit your agenda...
but life isn't alway fair, just as dorian never had ronnie's shape, taper etc.
ronnie 99 was really that good and there is nothing you can do about it..
Ronnie 99 pales in comparison to 1998 and 2001 which is exactly why EVERYONE says 2001 is his best showing
1999 is junk compared to 2001 and it doesn't matter because NEITHER can match Dorian for the total package
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hulkster you're such a fucking loser, you present an argument way before anyone even posts.. get a grip sadcunt
haha great post!
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what makes you think the video link I posted was posted by Bizzy?
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I suppose you think Bizzy is behind every video in existance of the 99 olympia LOL
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you are such a desperate pathetic man...
its funny, you claim ronnie 99 is garbage compared to 2001 or 1998 yet you do everything in your power to discredit all pics, screenshots, clips and videos of that contest... ::)
if he was so garbage, why do you care?
oh thats right - he was better than dorian ever was..
thats why..
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what makes you think the video link I posted was posted by Bizzy?
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you are such a desperate pathetic man...
I don't think it is ...I known it is ....he posted that video on all the website with the same description of the contest
Parts of the 1999 Mr. Olympia prejudging that include Ronnie Coleman.1999 is often overlooked as being Coleman's best physique. He was 10-12 pounds heavier than the 1998 Mr. O and 2001 Arnold Classic and more aesthetic, proportioned and defined than when he dominated in 2003. One well respected writer described his condition in 1999 as a walking anatomy chart.
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Ronnie%2BColeman%2B1999%2BMr.%2BOlympia%2BPart%2BTwo/video/x3w9ak_ronnie-coleman-1999-mr-olympia-part_sport
Thanks for playing owned same description from BIZZY old news it's his video
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Quote from Lou Ferrigno, after the 1993 O:
"Dorian won. He is as big as I am, but with a better overall frame. I knew I was competing for second place the minute he stepped onstage."
ferrigno couldn't do it at 318 pounds Ronnie isn't doing it at 247 pounds MAX
LOL, yeah if Dorian wasn't in the show Lou might have won.
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The winner right here.........
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e196/Intenseone/tigerguns.jpg)
.....and he's a natty.
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lmfao anytime anyone typed the name Dorian he has this obsession to post , Dorian owns him like he own Ronnie
Oh so Dorian owns Ronnie now that he beat him before Ronnie became Ronnie? LMAO
Sandows
Dorian 6 Ronnie 8
Ronnie Wins
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what makes you think the video link I posted was posted by Bizzy?
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I suppose you think Bizzy is behind every video in existance of the 99 olympia LOL
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you are such a desperate pathetic man...
its funny, you claim ronnie 99 is garbage compared to 2001 or 1998 yet you do everything in your power to discredit all pics, screenshots, clips and videos of that contest... ::)
if he was so garbage, why do you care?
oh thats right - he was better than dorian ever was..
thats why..
And seeing you added on to your statement after I responded to your thread I'll reply , the 1999 screencaps are worthless at least ALL the ones posted by Bizzy , they're in inaccurate representation of how he appeared , the question you asked ' why do I care ? ' why did Bizzy care enough to enhance them? ;)
I don't care about 1999 not in the least I scanned all the contest footage from the magazines and posted ALL of the pics dozens of times , you have access to forcereps screencaps , and the Muscletime excellent pics YOU continue to post the photoshopped ones because YOU think they look better ;)
1999 means zero to me , EVERYONE who knows the first thing about competitive bodybuilding knows 2001 is his best and it's best because his conditioning is as good as it ever got , 1999 it clearly wasn't ..you mistakenly came to the conclusion 1999 is his best and it's simply not and you're basing this soley on personal preference and nothing more because history dictates otherwise , I personally think he looks better fully but there is NO denying his conditioning isn't as good as 1998/2001 it's a trade off the difference is Dorian can get insanely huge without a compromise in his conditioning extremely rare trait even in this day
Dorian at his absolute best had advantages over Ronnie ANY year 1998/1999/2001/2003 pick a yeah Dorian has all the advantages
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Oh so Dorian owns Ronnie now that he beat him before Ronnie became Ronnie? LMAO
Sandows
Dorian 6 Ronnie 8
Ronnie Wins
Racist ;D
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Oh so Dorian owns Ronnie now that he beat him before Ronnie became Ronnie? LMAO
Sandows
Dorian 6 Ronnie 8
Ronnie Wins
Ronnie wins what? 2 more Sandows did Ronnie ever beat Dorian for those Sandows? ;) did Dorian retire undefeated? ;) Ronnie has a win/loss ratio of just 40% Dorian has 88% , Dorian dominated guys that Ronnie could just barely beat , Dorian is the most dominant bodybuilder in the history of the sport , Ronnie gets beat by Gunther & Cutler LMFAO the two Sandows mean nothing
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Oh so Dorian owns Ronnie now that he beat him before Ronnie became Ronnie? LMAO
Sandows
Dorian 6 Ronnie 8
Ronnie Wins
And Ronnie wasn't Ronnie when Dorian was beating him , Dorian wasn't Dorian either ;) he was getting progressively worse and still managed to destroy everyone Ronnie included , what does that tell us? in 1997 Dorian was first and this was ninth , Dorian at his best would crush Ronnie at his best
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what ND fails to realize is that when you compare dorian at arguably his best (93) and Ronnie at arguably his best (99) Ronnie wins easily:
just look:
all the bullshit you type ND is not going to change this fact:
when you apply the criteria properly, its game over dorian:
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And Ronnie wasn't Ronnie when Dorian was beating him , Dorian wasn't Dorian either he was getting progressively worse and still managed to destroy everyone Ronnie included , what does that tell us?
...that the judging was horrible...
hope this helps...
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hulkster trolling with the worst pics of dorian he can find - scanned from a 15 year old mag vs. digital pics of ronnie.
it still doesnt matter - yates easily wins.
meltdown.
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u gotta be a racist to think dorian is better than ronnie
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Same as the 01ASC.
9th place against Yates bwahahahah
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295455;image)
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u gotta be a racist to think dorian is better than ronnie
or stupid (or perhaps both) like ND and his two bitches... ::)
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hulkster trolling with the worst pics of dorian he can find - scanned from a 15 year old mag vs. digital pics of ronnie.
it still doesnt matter - yates easily wins.
meltdown.
lol the excuses just keep coming!
it kills you that even dorian 93 black and white shots cannot compete with Ronnie, doesn't it?:
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or stupid (or perhaps both) like ND and his two bitches... ::)
ha ha ha you're owned keep posting your photoshoppped pics and your links to the same video posted by Bizzy you dummy
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lol the excuses just keep coming!
it kills you that even dorian 93 black and white shots cannot compete with Ronnie, doesn't it?:
ha ha ha more worked shots where Ronnie has the same size calves are Dorian , sorry idiot NO version of Ronnie is going to make Dorian look small only in your fantasy ' comparisons '
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what ND fails to realize is that when you compare dorian at arguably his best (93) and Ronnie at arguably his best (99) Ronnie wins easily:
just look:
all the bullshit you type ND is not going to change this fact:
when you apply the criteria properly (not just what skin colour you like better as ND does..) its game over dorian:
1999 is NOT ' arguably ' Ronnie's best wrong on that account 2001/1998 you can't even get that right
you're pathetic now you've been reduced to trying to claim anyone who thinks Dorian is better is racist , that statement alone proves how pathetic you are.....and aren't you the same guy who called Yates the ' blocky white guy ' ? ;)
at least you're using real pics you're learning
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...that the judging was horrible...
hope this helps...
meltdown ;)
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Ronnie wins. Easily.
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You guys really need help.
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It's like placing a dollar bill on the end of a string, and Huckster chases it every time! ;D
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Go ahead and discuss these never ending Ronnie vs Dorian in the Truce Thread, Motherfuckers.
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A picture is worth a thousand threads. ;)
Photo courtesy of ND.
epic purposefully putting Ronnie 3 inches below Dorian in the picture and he STILL doesn't look bigger.
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epic purposefully putting Ronnie 3 inches below Dorian in the picture and he STILL doesn't look bigger.
Ronnie is hunched over more in striking the pose. Regardless, Dorian makes him look like a worm in the shot.
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These threads are ridiculous. There is no way to say one was better than the other by comparing pics. You need to see them on stage side by side. Yes Ronnie has more O wins and more Pro wins then Dorian so maybe he was better. BUT Dorian had a way better winning percentage and he beat Ronnie over and over. Now to say "well Ronnie wasnt Ronnie then" too bad. Fact is he didn't and couldn't beat him. Maybe if Dorian took a year off and healed he may have come back nastier than ever and still beat Ronnie. Ya just never know. Bottom line is Ronnie couldn't put it together back when Dorian was on top so that really should make Dorian the better champ. If you really want to get technical about it Lee Haney should be the best ever. He has the same amount of Mr O wins as Ronnie, I bet his winning percentage was better than Ronnies and he didn't something Ronnie never could do and that's beat Dorian. Ya never know what Lee would of become if he kept competing. He wasn't that old when he retired so he may have gained enough arm and leg mass to keep beating Dorian and Ronnie as well.
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epic purposefully putting Ronnie 3 inches below Dorian in the picture and he STILL doesn't look bigger.
Right...that's why Hulkster called photoshop on that shot of Dorian hahahahah
Dorian never lost after 1991, don't forget that ;)
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Dorian wins
From the knees down.
...even though bodybuilding is not a sport!
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Of course size doesn't always denote quality. Who's the marshmallow on the left? ;)
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a weight advantage means nothing when it's disguised by a wider waist, thicker joints, and flatter muscles.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20vs%20Ronnie/DorianvsRonnie43a.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20vs%20Ronnie/DorianvsRonnie40a.jpg)
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a weight advantage means nothing when it's disguised by a wider waist, thicker joints, and flatter muscles.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20vs%20Ronnie/DorianvsRonnie43a.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20vs%20Ronnie/DorianvsRonnie40a.jpg)
Dorian is getting ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED by Ronnie in those shots.
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;)
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Now this thread has potential.
The Beef
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a weight advantage means nothing when it's disguised by a wider waist, thicker joints, and flatter muscles by toothpick forearms, nonexistent calves, a huge belly, over developed glutes and marshmallow conditioning.
Indeed. ;)
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God damn, Dorian is murdering Coleman there!
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Indeed.
check the title of your own thread, dumbass. ::)
"Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!"
why are you comparing 03 Ronnie when this discussion is about Ronnie at 247 lbs? Regardless, you used Dorian's 2 best poses in those comparisons. Ronnie would win all the other mandatories. Let's see Doughian up against this. ;)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman156.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman5abc.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman7.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman13.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman155.jpg)
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Ronnie's balance and condition was off in 2003 compared to his best, 98.
Dorian wins the side tri, ab/thigh, rear lat spread, front double biceps, front lat spread, and rear double biceps. Ronnie wins the MM.
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I have no words to say just some pics to show
Ronnie is Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than dorian please stop the theared there is no way to compare between them ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ronnie's fans please let Dorian's fans be happy at least on the forum and let them lie to their selves by saying Dorian is better Looooool just laugh with me Loooooool ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Try Jay cuter Vs Dorian theared it will work better :P
** I chose the best year of dorian 95 (as you say always) and 99 + 03 coleman where he was not perfect ( as you alway say :P)
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check the title of your own thread, dumbass. ::)
"Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!"
why are you comparing 03 Ronnie when this discussion is about Ronnie at 247 lbs? /
My posting of Ronnie in his 2003 form was in response to your assertion that a mass advantage is not of benefit when accompanied by less than desirable attributes. No bodybuilder has demonstrated this better than Ronnie. No matter what version of Ronnie you throw out there, Dorian will always have an answer. Dorian would expose the much touted 2003 Ronnie as being the Michelin man that he was (see pics below ;D). And even in top form at around 247 pounds, Ronnie would look stringy compared to the much denser and complete Yates physique, as the original most muscular comparison clearly showed.
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What's up with the fat rolls on Ronnie's neck :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295660;image)
Great comparisons by the way Mr.1derful
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I have no words to say just some pics to show
Ronnie is Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better than dorian please stop the theared there is no way to compare between them ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ronnie's fans please let Dorian's fans be happy at least on the forum and let them lie to their selves by saying Dorian is better Looooool just laugh with me Loooooool ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Try Jay cuter Vs Dorian theared it will work better :P
** I chose the best year of dorian 95 (as you say always) and 99 + 03 coleman where he was not perfect ( as you alway say :P)
great comparisons.
ronnie is killing the keg as always.
dorian was only capable of beating the mid 90's ronnie that everyone else beat...
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Nice pregnant bitch tits on Coleman hahahah....Yates with way better taper!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295662;image)
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ronnie has an amazing ass, id love to slip between those tight buns.
yet another Hulkster gimmick account :-X
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ronnie has an amazing ass, id love to slip between those tight buns.
WTF :-X :-X :-X
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truth is...... dorian riterd before his prime.... coleman had many more years on dorian.
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Nice pregnant bitch tits on Coleman hahahah....Yates with way better taper!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295662;image)
pics are photoshopped....... or im gonna use some exscuse for these pics!
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Look at how small is Dorian next to RONNIE :P
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Nasser hands down.. This pic. of Nasser is from NOC 95 when his weight was 260 pounds (nearly the same weight as dorian in 95)..
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Damn, Dorian is murdering Nasshole and Ronnie in those shots.
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ronnie. 257 in 99
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Look at how small is Dorian next to RONNIE :P
ronnie is murdering dorian
look at the aidsman quads compared and arms/delts compared to ronnie lol
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many have said it, and it always holds true.
dorian had the worst arms in Mr. O. history...
look at this :-\
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lol
ronnie in 99 was so far ahead of any version of dorian its not even funny:
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many have said it, and it always holds true.
dorian had the worst arms in Mr. O. history...
look at this :-\
Ronnie for worst calves and forearms. During the latter part of Ronnie's career, he showcased the most unbalanced physique to ever grace the stage, along with marshmallow conditioning. Don't worry Huckster, I know you'll avoid comment on this comparison again (keep running), as always. The truth hurts. ;) Everybody OWNS Coleman! Maybe we should compare Coleman to Dickerson and Franco, just to make it fair. lol ;D
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During the latter part of Ronnie's career, he showcased the most unbalanced physique to ever grace the stage, along with marshmallow conditioning.
oh the irony of this coming from the one of the biggest dorian nuthuggers going...
you wanted unbalanced physiques and marshmallows?
here you go moron:
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With all these former Mr. Olympia's putting ownings on Coleman, even Samir has decided to get into the game. Samir exposes Ronnie as the soft blob of unrefined mass that he is. Samir by a country mile! :o
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With all these former Mr. Olympia's putting ownings on Coleman, even Samir has decided to get into the game to put another beat down on Ronnie. ;)
hahahahhaaa, Samir weighed as much as one of Ronnie's legs. ::)
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With all these former Mr. Olympia's putting ownings on Coleman, even Samir has decided to get into the game. Samir exposes Ronnie as the soft blob of unrefined mass that he is. :'(
former Mr. O's? you think thats bad?
fuck, dorian gets owned by a 5.5 foot tall FLEA LABRADA AND GREG KOVACS!!!
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Ronnie for worst calves and forearms. During the latter part of Ronnie's career, he showcased the most unbalanced physique to ever grace the stage, along with marshmallow conditioning. Don't worry Huckster, I know you'll avoid comment on this comparison again (keep running), as always. The truth hurts. ;) Everybody OWNS Coleman! Maybe we should compare Coleman to Dickerson and Franco, just to make it fair. lol ;D
Keep Running Huckster! lol
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check it out:
a very common occurance in dorian's 'reign" ::)
dorian getting owned by every single competitor onstage with him all at the same time!!
a regular sight when dorian was Mr. O... :-\
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Keep Running Huckster! lol
I didn't know Ronnie was 247 in 2003? ::)
god you are a fucking dumbass..
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:P
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I didn't know Ronnie was 247 in 2003? ::)
god you are a fucking dumbass..
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My posting of Ronnie in his 2003 form was in response to your assertion (Neo's) that a mass advantage is not of benefit when accompanied by less than desirable attributes. No bodybuilder has demonstrated this better than Ronnie. No matter what version of Ronnie you throw out there, Dorian will always have an answer. Dorian would expose the much touted 2003 Ronnie as being the Michelin man that he was (see pics below ;D). And even in top form at around 247 pounds, Ronnie would look stringy compared to the much denser and complete Yates physique, as the original most muscular comparison clearly showed.
You should learn to do more than simply look at the pictures, Huckster. Reading is fundamental. Tired of running yet? ;)
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hahahaha, another "pictures don't tell the whole story, sure Dorian looked terrible in pictures but you had to see him in person" clown. ::)
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hahahaha, another "pictures don't tell the whole story, sure Dorian looked terrible in pictures but you had to see him in person" clown. ::)
You should learn the fundamentals of reading as well, as it is apparent that the point of my rebuttal to Huckster, went very much over your head. lol Typical of a Coleman fan, I suppose.
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Look at how small is Dorian next to RONNIE
damn, Ronnie is destroying Dorian in those pics.
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You should learn the fundamentals of reading as well, as it is apparent that the point of my rebuttal to Huckster, went very much over your head. lol Typical of a Coleman fan, I suppose.
coming from the "guy" with 941 posts arguing who is a better bb'er, Dorian or Ronnie, hahahaha, what a fuccking loser. :D
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coming from the "guy" with 941 posts arguing who is a better bb'er, Dorian or Ronnie, hahahaha, what a fuccking loser. :D
Meltdown from the guy with 6380 posts, that can only resort to ad hominem attacks because he fails at basic reading skills. ;)
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coming from the "guy" with 941 posts arguing who is a better bb'er, Dorian or Ronnie, hahahaha, what a fuccking loser. :D
the irony of you calling anyone on this board a ' loser ' lmao averages 33 posts a day
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the irony of you calling anyone on this board a ' loser ' lmao averages 33 posts a day
ever gonna work up the balls to post a picture of yourself, skinny?
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ever gonna work up the balls to post a picture of yourself, skinny?
as soon as you post pics of your arms which you claim are bigger than Dorians ;)
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:P
Dorian is clearly superior in that shot; where's the owning again?
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OH, FOR FUCK'S SAKE!!!!
STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SELF INDUCED MELTDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nothing to see here, move along ;D
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as soon as you post pics of your arms which you claim are bigger than Dorians ;)
my picture has been posted HUNDREDS of times on here.
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With all these former Mr. Olympia's putting ownings on Coleman, even Samir has decided to get into the game. Samir exposes Ronnie as the soft blob of unrefined mass that he is. Samir by a country mile! :o
Seriously, how can anyone call the soft mass on the left progress?? ::)
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my picture has been posted HUNDREDS of times on here.
Oh really? you confirmed that 18" arm? yeah I thought so round boy ;) you know the arms you claimed are 18" which you said were bigger than Dorians
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Oh really? you confirmed that 18" arm? yeah I thought so round boy ;) you know the arms you claimed are 18" which you said were bigger than Dorians
hahahaha, i never claimed my arms were bigger than Dorian's, YOU claimed they were bigger than Dorian's, now where's the picture? :D
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Seriously, how can anyone call the soft mass on the left progress?? ::)
but he's 296 pounds ::) surely that means something? forget the fact you can see ANY separation of the deltoids , triceps , back but hey at least his glutes are ripped lmfao
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hahahaha, i never claimed my arms were bigger than Dorian's, YOU claimed they were bigger than Dorian's, now where's the picture? :D
No you did ;) you said your arms were 18" and then you posted a pic of Dorian stating his arms were LUCKY of they were 18" therefore you're claiming your arms are at least the same size if not bigger
you got a picture from me owning your ass when you claimed I wasn't 210 pounds ;) and like the weasel you are you back out of verifying your claims ;) I held my part of the deal you chickened out lol
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No you did ;) you said your arms were 18" and then you posted a pic of Dorian stating his arms were LUCKY of they were 18" therefore you're claiming your arms are at least the same size if not bigger
you got a picture from me owning your ass when you claimed I wasn't 210 pounds ;) and like the weasel you are you back out of verifying your claims ;) I held my part of the deal you chickened out lol
hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, posting a picture of a pale skinny calf on a scale is "owning" someone? ok "narc". ;D
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, posting a picture of a pale skinny calf on a scale is "owning" someone? ok "narc". ;D
I didn't post a pic of my ' pale skinny calf on a scale ' I posted a pic of me on the scale reading 210 pounds which you claimed I was 150 pounds ...case closed YOU got owned and my calf which you called ' average ' is 17" COLD ;) wrong and wrong again
you made a claim I crushed it you backed out of verifying your claims of arms the same size as Yates ;)
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I didn't post a pic of my ' pale skinny calf on a scale ' I posted a pic of me on the scale reading 210 pounds which you claimed I was 150 pounds ...case closed YOU got owned and my calf which you called ' average ' is 17" COLD ;) wrong and wrong again
you made a claim I crushed it you backed out of verifying your claims of arms the same size as Yates ;)
hahahahaa, so i tell you to post a picture of yourself and you post a picture of a small thin calf and foot on a scale and i'm the one who's owned, ok "big guy". :D
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Look at how small is Dorian next to RONNIE :P
Yeah, Ronnie is like 4" taller than Dorian in this comparison. Probably a SemenHole work.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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:P
lol....what a classic line up back then. Vince's eye patch kicked ass......lol
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Yeah, Ronnie is like 4" taller than Dorian in this comparison. Probably a SemenHole work.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
no different than the picture at the top of this thread where "1derful" purposelly placed Ronnie 3 inches below Dorian. ::)
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hahahahaa, so i tell you to post a picture of yourself and you post a picture of a small thin calf and foot on a scale and i'm the one who's owned, ok "big guy". :D
wrong again you never told me to post a pic of myself , you said I was 150 pounds I posted a pic proving you wrong ;) and again what planet do you live on where a 17" cold calf is ' small thin ' ? it's almost as big as your arms which you claim are at the least the same size as Dorians ;) and ' big guy ' ? you mean double digit bodyfat levels like you? there is an old saying in the gym Dave , " you can't flex fat "
we all can't be genetic freaks like you with the same size arms as a 6 time Mr Olympia ha ha ha ha ha
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Yeah, Ronnie is like 4" taller than Dorian in this comparison. Probably a SemenHole work.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
him or icemnan/bizzy
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wrong again you never told me to post a pic of myself , you said I was 150 pounds I posted a pic proving you wrong ;) and again what planet do you live on where a 17" cold calf is ' small thin ' ? it's almost as big as your arms which you claim are at the least the same size as Dorians ;) and ' big guy ' ? you mean double digit bodyfat levels like you? there is an old saying in the gym Dave , " you can't flex fat "
we all can't be genetic freaks like you with the same size arms as a 6 time Mr Olympia ha ha ha ha ha
hahahaha. post a picture of just your calf with a tape around them if they're really 17 inches because they sure as shit didn't look it from the picture.
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hahahaha. post a picture of just your calf with a tape around them if they're really 17 inches because they sure as shit didn't look it from the picture.
as soon as you post pics of your arms which you claim are 18" you know bigger than Dorians
Dave you get laughed at and that's all you get ;)
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no different than the picture at the top of this thread where "1derful" purposelly placed Ronnie 3 inches below Dorian. ::)
Or, if you paid attention at all, it could be that Ronnie is bent over more in doing the pose, where as Dorian is more upright. It matters not, as Dorian has far too much conditioned density and mass for Ronnie, who looks thinly developed in comparison.
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Or, if you paid attention at all, it could be that Ronnie is bent over more in doing the pose. It matters not, as Dorian makes Ronnie look like a worm.
Look at the staggering difference in pecs , how Ronnie's are sunken in and Dorian's are massive and protruding out like Ronnie's gut
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as soon as you post pics of your arms which you claim are 18" you know bigger than Dorians
Dave you get laughed at and that's all you get ;)
coming from the guy too afraid to post your picture. :D
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coming from the guy too afraid to post your picture. :D
again it's YOU who afraid which is exactly why you packed out of verifying your arm measurement that is at least as big as Dorians , and your over 500 pound squat and where are your pictures? the plate glass reflection isn't a picture either
again all you get is......laughed at :D
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again it's YOU who afraid which is exactly why you packed out of verifying your arm measurement that is at least as big as Dorians , and your over 500 pound squat and where are your pictures? the plate glass reflection isn't a picture either
again all you get is......laughed at :D
so when should we all expect you to post the FIRST picture of yourself Narc?
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so when should we all expect you to post the FIRST picture of yourself Narc?
Don't , I don't need GetBig validation and as soon as you post your taped 18" arm and your 500+ lb squat ;)
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Don't , I don't need GetBig validation and as soon as you post your taped 18" arm and your 500+ lb squat ;)
hahahahaha, just what i thought, no balls. :D
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hahahahaha, just what i thought, no balls. :D
same can be said about you Dave ;) where i the taped 18" arm pic? where is the video of the 500+ pound squat? lol yeah I though so . keep trying to impress me Dave it hasn't happened yet
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same can be said about you Dave ;) where i the taped 18" arm pic? where is the video of the 500+ pound squat? lol yeah I though so . keep trying to impress me Dave it hasn't happened yet
so i'll take that as a no on you posting your first picture?
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(http://www.k7no.com/not_this_again_edited-1.jpg)
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so i'll take that as a no on you posting your first picture?
Dave I'll post my first pic the moment you verify your claims of an 18" arm and a 500+ lb squat , as we both know you're full of shit so don't hold your breath
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check it out:
a very common occurance in dorian's 'reign" ::)
dorian getting owned by every single competitor onstage with him all at the same time!!
a regular sight when dorian was Mr. O... :-\
The thing is...he is not getting owned. Just because in your opinion he is getting owned, it does not follow that he is getting owned according to the judges. Contests are not judged according to your preferences, Huckster.
SUCMYMUSCLE
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Dave I'll post my first pic the moment you verify your claims of an 18" arm and a 500+ lb squat , as we both know you're full of shit so don't hold your breath
so is that a no on the picture?
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so is that a no on the picture?
It's a yes as soon you you back up your claims ;) come on Dave put your money where your mouth is
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It's a yes as soon you you back up your claims ;) come on Dave put your money where your mouth is
just as soon as you post your FIRST picture i'll post the rest, ball's in your court Mr. "17 inch calf that looks 14".
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The thing is...he is not getting owned. Just because in your opinion he is getting owned, it does not follow that he is getting owned according to the judges. Contests are not judged according to your preferences, Huckster.
SUCMYMUSCLE
He can't even get Ronnie's best year right , he's constantly in direct opposition to how the judges scored contests which proves he doesn't know the first thing about competitive bodybuilding .
his opinion is ignorant and biased that's a bad combo
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just as soon as you post your FIRST picture i'll post the rest, ball's in your court Mr. "17 inch calf that looks 14".
yeah just like the last time huh? lmfao get out of here troll come back when you have something until keep trying to impress me Dave
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yeah just like the last time huh? lmfao get out of here troll come back when you have something until keep trying to impress me Dave
so is that a no on the picture?
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so is that a no on the picture?
you got your answer , and typical Dave scared to put your money where your mouth is ;)
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ND 4 sure u c tht drn ws better thn ronnie in the MM pose but do u think he ws better thn nasr too??.. ur real opinion plz..
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you got your answer , and typical Dave scared to put your money where your mouth is ;)
and you got my answer, clock's ticking, you gonna put up?
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(http://www.k7no.com/not_this_again_edited-1.jpg)
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ND 4 sure u c tht drn ws better thn ronnie in the MM pose but do u think he ws better thn nasr too??.. ur real opinion plz..
Nasser looks good in that shot I'm not sure if the scale is accurate but he looks at least as good as Yates , Nasser looks great from the front always has
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Nasser looks good in that shot I'm not sure if the scale is accurate but he looks at least as good as Yates , Nasser looks great from the front always has
come on, even if it's nt scaled accurate still he beats yates in shape not just in size.. this is a chest, traps, shoulders, and arms pose and nasser was better thn dorian in all these.. may b they were equal in traps.. anyway bth of thm r nearly the same weight (abt 260 pounds) in these pics..
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Might as well keep this thread going
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:)
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wow dorian looks really bad in these shots
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All day Long
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2003 Ronnie is so overrated, it's not even funny. The larger he became, the more his proportions and conditioning suffered. The fact that so many herald his 2003 physique as so ground breaking, is laughable. Coleman fans continue to ignore (keep running away from) ;) comparisons like those below, because the aforementioned points are plain as day and show how far from grace the title fell while in his hands.
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All day Long
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295763;image)
that side chest shits all over anything Dorian ever presented.
::) ::) ::)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/1995Mr.OlympiaPrejduging1.jpg)
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that side chest shits all over anything Dorian ever presented.
sure ::) brutal gyno
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sure brutal gyno
"gyno? m8 be smokin' dat crack."
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman85.jpg)
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"gyno? m8 be smokin' dat crack."
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman85.jpg)
Funny, another Coleman shot cut off at the knees. lol ;D
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Funny, another Coleman shot cut off at the knees. lol
how is that funny? He's so big that it's hard to fit his whole body in the pic. ;D
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how is that funny? He's so big that it's hard to fit his whole body in the pic. ;D
His bulbous mass somehow makes him taller? ::) lol
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Another day at the office
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Another day at the office
No kidding. It's too easy. Game, set and match Yates. lol
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No kidding. It's too easy. Game, set and match Yates. lol
Notice how Ronnie does his side triceps? he keeps his legs close together to try and minimize the damage of showing those pathetic calves
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The thing is...he is not getting owned. Just because in your opinion he is getting owned, it does not follow that he is getting owned according to the judges. Contests are not judged according to your preferences, Huckster.
SUCMYMUSCLE
then please explain for us all using the criteria how dorian is not getting owned sucky.
cause he's not even beating Flea Labrada in that shot, never mind everyone else...
::)
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then please explain for us all using the criteria how dorian is not getting owned sucky.
cause he's not even beating Flea Labrada in that shot, never mind everyone else...
::)
always in direct opposition to the judges picks , that means you know zero about competitive bodybuilding ;) but then again we already knew that
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Dorian at his heaviest and still looks small next to Ronnie. Imagine a 20 lbs lighter Dorian. No contest 8)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYatesSmallArms.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman156.jpg)
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always in direct opposition to the judges picks , that means you know zero about competitive bodybuilding ;) but then again we already knew that
always avoiding explaining the reality of the pics...as always...
dorian couldn't even match upper bodies with fuckin Lee Labrada when he was in great shape
and you think he can match up to ronnie
LOL
::)
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check out how a 257 pound Ronnie compares to a 270 pound dorian lol
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check out how a 257 pound Ronnie compares to a 270 pound dorian lol
If Dorian looks better than Ronnie............wait no.
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thats the thing.
dorian NEVER looked better than a peak ronnie coleman
he only looked better than a mid 90's ronnie
that everyone else looked better than also...
there isn't much left to say. the pics do the talking.
thats why the nuthuggers do their best to discredit said pics.
they tell the whole story..
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Still no comment, ok then. There you have it.
no one addresses your posts b/c they are garbage. ;)
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2003 Ronnie is so overrated, it's not even funny. The larger he became, the more his proportions and conditioning suffered. The fact that so many herald his 2003 physique as so ground breaking, is laughable. Coleman fans continue to ignore (keep running away from) ;) comparisons like those below, because the aforementioned points are plain as day and show how far from grace the title fell while in his hands.
Still no comment? There you have it. ;) The trolls keep running from the truth.
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Dorian did nothing to advance the sport of bodybuilding. :-\
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/FrankZane8.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/1993Mr-8.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Bodybuilders/SergeNubret1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/Dorian-SmoothasBabyAss1.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/95%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates-FatCow15.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Sergio%20Oliva/SergioOliva67.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates96-1.jpg)
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check out how a 257 pound Ronnie compares to a 270 pound dorian lol
he's looked petite like he did in 1997 when he was 9th and 255 pounds ;)
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always avoiding explaining the reality of the pics...as always...
dorian couldn't even match upper bodies with fuckin Lee Labrada when he was in great shape
and you think he can match up to ronnie
LOL
::)
One pic isn't reality... this is reality kid ;)
Julian Schmidt on Dorian Yates at the 1992 Mr Olympia
There is NO ONE in the world who can touch Yates. In this show he was a brain-snapping 242 pounds , all of it expertly distributed. Against all the finalist , sensational though they were , Dorian possessed thickness and convexity in his back none can match. Even Levrone's triceps and legs , which had the bodybuilding community aflutter all year , paled in comparison with the same bodyparts on Yates. Where others might also boast size and striations , Dorian dominates them with stratifications as well. It's eerie how far this man takes the human physique.
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no one addresses your posts b/c they are garbage. ;)
This from the guy claiming that the many shots of Coleman are cut off at the knees, due to the incapacity to fit Ronnie's whole body into the pictures. Is Ronnie 8 feet tall? lol
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Dorian at his heaviest and still looks small next to Ronnie. Imagine a 20 lbs lighter Dorian. No contest 8)
Hardly. Dorian makes Ronnie look like Butterbean. lol ;D Even more so when Dorian is even sharper. Yates has an answer for anything Ronnie can throw at him.
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Yates has an answer for anything Ronnie can throw at him.
lol what bullshit.
if dorian has an answer for everything that ronnie can throw at him, then why does his best EVER shots get crushed?
try and bullshit your way out of this one...
::)
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A picture is worth a thousand threads. ;)
Photo courtesy of ND.
Yates might have a little more size, and he looks good BUT i think coleman looks better.
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lol what bullshit.
if dorian has an answer for everything that ronnie can throw at him, then why does his best EVER shots get crushed?
try and bullshit your way out of this one...
::)
every pic? WRONG Dorian is killing Ronnie in the slanted pic YOU posted never mind these
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How can anyone in their right mind think Ronnie was at his best in 2003 ::) His balance and proportions were horrific. Huge quads and stick calves. Huge arms and stick forearms. Poor taper and soft condition. Dorian wins easily.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295774;image)
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How can anyone in their right mind think Ronnie was at his best in 2003 ::) His balance and proportions were horrific. Huge quads and stick calves. Huge arms and stick forearms. Poor taper and soft condition. Dorian wins easily.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295774;image)
absolutely ...2003 is a fan-boys dream and that's about it
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265 pounds in 1992 tramples anything Coleman ever showed , complete from head to toe with unequaled conditioning
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This from the guy claiming that the many shots of Coleman are cut off at the knees, due to the incapacity to fit Ronnie's whole body into the pictures. Is Ronnie 8 feet tall? lol
this coming from the idiot who thinks I was being serious despite the grin emoticon at the end of my post. ::)
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Hardly. Dorian Ronnie makes Ronnie Dorian look like Butterbean. lol
fixed ;)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYatesSmallArms.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/UglyDorian.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates-FatCow14.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/Dorian-FatCow1a.jpg)
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the 02 BFTO version of Ronnie beats anything Dorian ever showed.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie12.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie18.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie16a.jpg)
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thats the thing.
dorian NEVER looked better than a peak ronnie coleman
he only looked better than a mid 90's ronnie
that everyone else looked better than also...
there isn't much left to say. the pics do the talking.
thats why the nuthuggers do their best to discredit said pics.
they tell the whole story..
Exactly but the fact of the matter is Ronnie couldn't look like that back in the mid 90's. So Dorian beat him over and over. So you can say Ronnie is better all you want but he NEVER beat Yates. Yates beat him. You never know what Yates would have looked like had he gotten to keep competing. Maybe Ronnie would of won, maybe not it's just speculation from here. Ronnie had more MrO titles but he couldn't beat Dorian.
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this coming from the idiot who thinks I was being serious despite the grin emoticon at the end of my post. ::)
Someone taking your ridiculous comment as being intended seriously, is merely indicative of your reputation having preceded you.
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Someone taking your ridiculous comment as being intended seriously, is merely indicative of your reputation having preceded you.
translation: "darn, you caught me!" ;)
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the 02 BFTO version of Ronnie beats anything Dorian ever showed.
And that 2002 off season certainly served him well. LMFAO ::)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/29383-4/2002-mr-olympia-37.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=75877280338b03537411c449c079df0c)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/29178-4/2002-mr-olympia-07.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=75877280338b03537411c449c079df0c)
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translation: "darn, you caught me!" ;)
Is that what passes for wit in these circles? Great comeback. lol
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holy f*ck!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295844;image)
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holy f*ck!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295844;image)
265 pounds Coleman and no one else can touch this front latspread
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And that 2002 off season certainly served him well. LMFAO
ha ha ho ho hee hee ::)
what does his physique the day of the contest have to do with how he looked several weeks out?
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Is that what passes for wit in these circles? Great comeback. lol
I wasn't trying to be witty although I appreciate the kind words. ;)
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265 pounds Coleman and no one else can touch this front latspread
::) ::) ::)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie3.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Lee%20Haney/LeeHaney11.jpg)
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::) ::) ::)
couldn't resist could you? ;) lol
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im a dorian fan but i admit he looks like crap in these pix
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::) ::) ::)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/99%20Mr%20Olympia/99MrO-Ronnie3.jpg)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Lee%20Haney/LeeHaney11.jpg)
Ironic that you didn't want to comment on this Ronnie/Haney comparison. Ironic, but understandable. lol
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im a dorian fan but i admit he looks like crap in these pix
stop trolling and anyone who prefaces his statement with " I'm a fan of Dorian but " is full of it
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im a dorian fan but i admit he looks like crap in these pix
no shit. thats because he WAS crap compared to ronnie coleman at his peak...
we are not talking about a 95 ronnie here...despite what the dorian fans would like us to believe..
::)
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couldn't resist could you?
couldn't resist what? Correcting ignorance? Then yes.
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Ironic that you didn't want to comment on this Ronnie/Haney comparison. Ironic, but understandable. lol
b/c they are not hitting a mandatory pose. ;)
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couldn't resist what? Correcting ignorance? Then yes.
puppy ;)
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You never know what Yates would have looked like had he gotten to keep competing
wrong, we actually have a pretty good idea if his last few years was any indication:
:-\
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puppy
fag
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/NDisaFag1.jpg)
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LOL homo ND wants to drink Neo's milkshake..
I guess to compare to the taste of dorian's? :-X
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wrong, we actually have a pretty good idea if his last few years was any indication:
:-\
hahaha, Dorian getting owned by Kovacs. ;D
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fag
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/NDisaFag1.jpg)
meltdown and epic obsession thanks for playing ;)
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LOL homo ND wants to drink Neo's milkshake..
I guess to compare to the taste of dorian's? :-X
He's the homo , that's on his mind not mine ;) and look how he changed it in his sig lol that speaks volumes of him fantasies
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fag
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/NDisaFag1.jpg)
Hey ND, isn't it a bitch when you put forth an intelligent comeback that goes totally over the recipients head? Poor Neo. So often when he gets owned, he isn't even smart enough to catch on. lol
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no shit. thats because he WAS crap compared to ronnie coleman at his peak...
we are not talking about a 95 ronnie here...despite what the dorian fans would like us to believe..
::)
after seeing this thread im def a ronnie fan now...how come yates was allowed to win when he looked so bad?
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hahaha, Dorian getting owned by Kovacs. ;D
whats worse?:
getting owned by Greg Kovacs at the end of your Mr. O career
OR
getting owned by Flea Labrada at the beginning?
LOL :-\
this is the reality of the yatesian physique, I'm afraid...
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after seeing this thread im def a ronnie fan now...how come yates was allowed to win when he looked so bad?
ask ND. LOL
he has a whole list of pathetic excuses... :-\
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whats worse?:
getting owned by Greg Kovacs at the end of your Mr. O career
OR
getting owned by Flea Labrada at the beginning?
LOL :-\
this is the reality of the yatesian physique, I'm afraid...
hahahaa, exactly, twigs on a barrel.
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hahahaa, exactly, twigs on a barrel.
x2
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hahahaa, exactly, twigs on a barrel.
how dare you insult a barrel with twigs by comparing it to Dorian! At least the barrel has better symmetry. ;D
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/TwigsOnBarrel.jpg)
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x3
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Hey ND, isn't it a bitch when you put forth an intelligent comeback that goes totally over the recipients head? Poor Neo. So often when he gets owned, he isn't even smart enough to catch on. lol
The kid has nothing so his retort is ' fag ' lol talk about projection lol he turned into a homosexual reference because that's whats on HIS mind , he tries so hard to be like me like they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
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Hey ND, isn't it a bitch when you put forth an intelligent comeback that goes totally over the recipients head? Poor Neo. So often when he gets owned, he isn't even smart enough to catch on. lol
oh shut the f*ck up. What next? ND will say "I fondle your balls" as a witty comeback?
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LOL
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as usual the dorian boys are being massacred
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wrong, we actually have a pretty good idea if his last few years was any indication:
:-\
No you actually don't. How do you know that Ronnie would of come out the way he did if Dorian was still competing? You don't. Maybe Ronnie would of have gone too far and looked like shit like he did in 04-today. Even 03 he was huge but his back was watery. See the point is all you do is speculate and talk about things that never happened. Ronnie NEVER looked like he did in 98 and 99 against Dorian. SO we never will know who would of won. What we do know is Dorian beat Ronnie every single time they competed against each other.
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See the point is all you do is speculate and talk about things that never happened
um thats what everyone is doing... ::)
dorian never faced ronnie at his peak - he only the ronnie physique that got beat by everyone..
thats the whole point of these threads..to speculate based on what we have seen from these two guys.
and when we look at that, its not even close.
dorian never came close to what ronnie presented at his best..
Ronnie NEVER looked like he did in 98 and 99 against Dorian
exactly. thats why ronnie got beat by dorian and everyone.
had he show up looking like he did in 98/99 he would have been Mr. O. long before the late 90's..
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How do you know that Ronnie would of come out the way he did if Dorian was still competing? You don't. Maybe Ronnie would of have gone too far and looked like shit like he did in 04-today.
what makes you think there was some connection between what ronnie was doing and whether or not dorian was still competing or not?
there wasn't
why?
because Ronnie was probably the last person on earth to think he would have become Mr. Olympia in 1998..
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um thats what everyone is doing... ::)
dorian never faced ronnie at his peak - he only the ronnie physique that got beat by everyone..
thats the whole point of these threads..to speculate based on what we have seen from these two guys.
and when we look at that, its not even close.
dorian never came close to what ronnie presented at his best..
exactly. thats why ronnie got beat by dorian and everyone.
had he show up looking like he did in 98/99 he would have been Mr. O. long before the late 90's..
It's alot closer than you make it out to be. For every bad pic of Dorian you find there are a great pics of him to alter the decision. You don't like Dorian and that's obvious but he was a great champ and would have given Ronnie quite the run for his money. Flex peaked during the mid 90's and Dorian beat him and Flex pushed Ronnie in 98 and 99. You can show all the pics you want but it would have been very close between the two of them.
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It's alot closer than you make it out to be. For every bad pic of Dorian you find there are a great pics of him to alter the decision. You don't like Dorian and that's obvious but he was a great champ and would have given Ronnie quite the run for his money. Flex peaked during the mid 90's and Dorian beat him and Flex pushed Ronnie in 98 and 99. You can show all the pics you want but it would have been very close between the two of them.
Dorian never competed against a prime Flex. So you can say that Dorian beat Flex during the latter's peak, but it's misleading. It should also be noted that Flex played the size game during the late 90's when the judges favored size, and used synthol to hide his weaknesses without being penalized which gave him an unfair advantage.
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Flex didn't push Ronnie in 99.
flex got destroyed just as dorian would have.
ronnie crushed flex in 99:
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No need to say words let the pictures speak ;)
Wow Ronnie how great you are :D
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Who volunteer to take of this man’s tears ..?
:P
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oh shut the f*ck up. What next? ND will say "I fondle your balls" as a witty comeback?
Meltdown. lol ;D
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Talk about a backfire. lol You put Ronnie at his best against Dorian at his worst and still, the results are just as I would have anticipated. Dorian, although off his best, is much larger and densely developed, but still as conditioned. In fact, Yates' back appears to be a bit sharper and more delineated (just look at the lower back!). Ronnie would be overwhelmed by Yates, period. Thanks for proving our point. ;D Lucky you didn't use 1995 Yates, or it would be even worse for Ronnie. LMFAO At least we know that Ronnie was able to squeak by a sub par Flex Wheeler, though. ;)
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dorian has always had a better lower back than ronnie.
and better calves. and abs.
problem is, thats it.
the rest he gets crushed on, and its evident in every pose:
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dorian has always had a better lower back than ronnie.
and better calves. and abs.
problem is, thats it.
the rest he gets crushed on, and its evident in every pose:
Perhaps in your world of rainbows and flying unicorns, but in the real world of contest judging, it is simply not the case. In the real world, Ronnie at his best, barely got away with the title to competitors like Flex Wheeler, at less than their career best. Meanwhile, Yates demolished them while at their peak. Ronnie was very good, but would have been overwhelmed by Yates.
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Dorian never competed against a prime Flex. So you can say that Dorian beat Flex during the latter's peak, but it's misleading. It should also be noted that Flex played the size game during the late 90's when the judges favored size, and used synthol to hide his weaknesses without being penalized which gave him an unfair advantage.
Flex was at his best in the 90's as was Levrone and Cormier and Shawn Ray. Dorian beat them all. Ronnie looked great at his first two wins that's it. After 99 the other guys started to slip alot. The only poses that Ronnie really beats Yates in is the most muscular and side chest. That's about it. Any shot that is posted where Ronnie looks better a pic of Yates can be found where Yates looks better. That's why these threads go on forever.
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after seeing this thread im def a ronnie fan now...how come yates was allowed to win when he looked so bad?
Same reason Ronnie was allowed to win when he looked so bad in 01, 02, 04 and 05. 03 wasn't his best either but fortunately for him everyone else was pretty off.
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Flex was at his best in the 90's as was Levrone and Cormier and Shawn Ray. Dorian beat them all.
there's a big difference between being near your best and being at your best during the same competition. What contest do you consider to be Flex's, Levrone's, and Cormier's prime? I won't bother asking about Shawn b/c he never realistically stood a chance of beating either Dorian or Ronnie.
Ronnie looked great at his first two wins that's it.
I guess you forgot about the 01 ASC where most experts believe Ronnie presented the greatest physique ever.
After 99 the other guys started to slip alot. The only poses that Ronnie really beats Yates in is the most muscular and side chest. That's about it.
no. Ronnie also beats Dorian in the front double biceps, front lat spread, back double biceps, back lat spread, and all the quarter turn poses.
Any shot that is posted where Ronnie looks better a pic of Yates can be found where Yates looks better. That's why these threads go on forever.
yawn, all I have to say is "any shot that is posted where Dorian looks better, a pic of Ronnie can be found where he looks better" to cancel out your claim. Words alone are meaningless. Back it up with evidence.
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there's a big difference between being near your best and being at your best during the same competition. What contest do you consider to be Flex's, Levrone's, and Cormier's prime? I won't bother asking about Shawn b/c he never realistically stood a chance of beating either Dorian or Ronnie.
I guess you forgot about the 01 ASC where most experts believe Ronnie presented the greatest physique ever.
no. Ronnie also beats Dorian in the front double biceps, front lat spread, back double biceps, back lat spread, and all the quarter turn poses.
yawn, all I have to say is "any shot that is posted where Dorian looks better, a pic of Ronnie can be found where he looks better" to cancel out your claim. Words alone are meaningless. Back it up with evidence.
Same goes for pics of Ronnie. We aren't talking about the ASC only the O. Ronnie doesn't win the Front lat, back double and back lat in all the pics.
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Damn, Ronnie even at his best here is so fucking owned hahah....it's like half his back is missing when compared to Yates. Also, Yates would DWARF Coleman.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295909;image)
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Same goes for pics of Ronnie. We aren't talking about the ASC only the O. Ronnie doesn't win the Front lat, back double and back lat in all the pics.
he doesn't win ANY poses technically seeing all rounds are physique rounds , that means ALL of the criteria is assessed in every poses from every angle , including muscular bulk , balance & proportion , density & dryness , posing & presentation ...so while Ronnie beats Dorian in PART(S) of this criteria he doesn't beat him in all ......Dorian never lost a symmetry round despite never being the most ' symmetrical ' bodybuilder and why? All rounds are physique rounds
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Damn, Ronnie even at his best here is so fucking owned hahah....it's like half his back is missing when compared to Yates. Also, Yates would DWARF Coleman.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295909;image)
I know that was a retarded comparison lol 1997 VS 1998 and Dorian still beat him lol
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talk your shit about biceps, ronnie is missing a rhomboid and his lat under that left side is noticeably smaller.
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Same goes for pics of Ronnie. We aren't talking about the ASC only the O. Ronnie doesn't win the Front lat, back double and back lat in all the pics.
I have no problem posting pics of Ronnie. I'm one of the main contributors of new Ronnie pics, and I've been posting shots of him in this thread. I haven't seen you post any of Dorian. I don't know why we can't talk about Ronnie's 01 ASC showing. It makes no sense if we are discussing best physiques. Furthermore, you never answered what contest you consider to be Flex's, Levrone's, and Cormier's prime.
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Damn, Ronnie even at his best here is so fucking owned hahah....it's like half his back is missing when compared to Yates. Also, Yates would DWARF Coleman.
you do realize that the comparison is not scaled properly? Dorian is taller despite being 1" shorter in person. Also, Dorian weighs 20 lbs more than Ronnie yet they look about the same size. The only part of Dorian that dwarfs Ronnie is his waist. :-\
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hey buffD, try and find us a dorian lat spread that can match this.
you won't, since as you can see here, even 93 and 95 (dorian's two best years) get crushed.
its going to be pretty easy owning the best pics the dorian side has to offer.
after all, we have been doing this for years already.
all they can do is cry fake, photoshop, you had to see dorian in person etc etc etc lol ::)
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ouch. when you compare dorian to ronnie, ronnie is so good he makes it look like dorian doesn't even train his arms, chest or quads... :-\
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you do realize that the comparison is not scaled properly? Dorian is taller despite being 1" shorter in person. Also, Dorian weighs 20 lbs more than Ronnie yet they look about the same size. The only part of Dorian that dwarfs Ronnie is his waist. :-\
It's funny how you use pics to try to prove your point. I guarantee that pretty much every pic on the net is touched up one way or another. Either by making them darker, brighter or sharper. Judging by pics is pointless. It's impossible to say which one is better. The sport is subjective and that's the whole problem with bodybuilding. It will never change. Personally I dont like either physique. I think Haney was better than both despite having smaller legs and smaller arms. His shape was far better, he had very good conditioning and was a good poser. He had the same amount of Mr O wins as Ronnie and he did beat Dorian which Ronnie never did. Dorian had his flaws as did Ronnie. But this is my opinion just like all of you posting here. Pics are not proof of anything. We all can see what we want to see in a pic. I personally think Dorian looks better in that front lat spread even though he doesn't have as much quad seperation.
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It's funny how you use pics to try to prove your point. I guarantee that pretty much every pic on the net is touched up one way or another. Either by making them darker, brighter or sharper. Judging by pics is pointless.
here we go again... ::)
dorian gets his ass handed to him by peak (not mid 90's) ronnie all the time and all of a sudden pics don't matter, all are faked, pointless etc etc.
::)
when you are idiots going to stop with the bullshit excuses and admit what is real? ::)
dorian was not as good as ronnie eventually became.
period.
the bullshit excuses about how the comparisons don't matter, are faked, touched up, pointless etc. is really embarassing, to be honest.
its old, pathetic, completely untrue and sad.
sorry but its true...this sport is based on visual comparisons. just because your hero doesn't stack up to what ronnie became does not mean they are all invalid all of a sudden.. ::)
if it was the other way around (ronnie was getting killed) I guarentee NONE of you nuthuggers would be saying any of this.
but since dorian gets crushed, its all you can do... ::)
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Dorian was so dominating that Flex had to make up a story to sit out the 97O bwahahahaha....and then came back and damn near beat Ronnie at his all time best. Kevin also confirmed on here that Dorian was better.
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here we go again... ::)
dorian gets his ass handed to him by peak (not mid 90's) ronnie all the time and all of a sudden pics don't matter, all are faked, pointless etc etc.
::)
when you are idiots going to stop with the bullshit excuses and admit what is real? ::)
dorian was not as good as ronnie eventually became.
period.
the bullshit excuses about how the comparisons don't matter, are faked, touched up, pointless etc. is really embarassing, to be honest.
its old, pathetic, completely untrue and sad.
sorry but its true...this sport is based on visual comparisons. just because your hero doesn't stack up to what ronnie became does not mean they are all invalid all of a sudden.. ::)
if it was the other way around (ronnie was getting killed) I guarentee NONE of you nuthuggers would be saying any of this.
but since dorian gets crushed, its all you can do... ::)
ALL PICS ARE TOUCHED UP EVEN DORIANS! Pics do not matter. If they did then why go on stage. Just show pics up on screen and judge that way ::) Like I said I don't think either was the best ever. Oh and Ronnie does get killed in several pics and guess what? It doesn't matter either because you cannot make a fair judgment based on pics.
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wrong.
don't you understand that dorian at his best never stood on the same stage at the same time as ronnie at his best?
duh.
this discussion (and others) is focused on which one would win if that had happened.
since we don't have a time machine and teleport machine, visual pics/videos are all we have to go by..
::)
so in this context, pics are very important.
I am so glad smart people are on this board to explain basic shit like this to the nuthuggers.
they would be so lost without us..
:P
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hey buffD, try and find us a dorian lat spread that can match this.
you won't, since as you can see here, even 93 and 95 (dorian's two best years) get crushed.
its going to be pretty easy owning the best pics the dorian side has to offer.
after all, we have been doing this for years already.
all they can do is cry fake, photoshop, you had to see dorian in person etc etc etc lol ::)
Thanks for playing :D
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ALL PICS ARE TOUCHED UP EVEN DORIANS! Pics do not matter. If they did then why go on stage. Just show pics up on screen and judge that way ::) Like I said I don't think either was the best ever. Oh and Ronnie does get killed in several pics and guess what? It doesn't matter either because you cannot make a fair judgment based on pics.
Great post ! objective honest and unbiased
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I think Ronnie > Dorian, but Dorian's back is probably the best of all time due the placement of the muscles and the incredible size and thickness. Ronnie destroys Dorian, but talking about the strictly the back double biceps shot Dorian wins hands down.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=295969;image)
Ronnie "no lats" Coleman hahahaha
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two completely different angles. Camera is looking down to Ronnie, looking up to Dorian. Unfair comparison..... ::)
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two completely different angles. Camera is looking down to Ronnie, looking up to Dorian. Unfair comparison..... ::)
yeah because every comparison they post is dead accurate ::)
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Thanks for playing :D
no no no.....Thank you!!!
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no no no.....Thank you!!!
lmfao that bloated mess , density sucks , dryness sucks , balance sucks , proportion sucks
see fail
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lmfao that bloated mess , density sucks , dryness sucks , balance sucks , proportion sucks
see fail
So your opinion is gospel all of a sudden?
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So your opinion is gospel all of a sudden?
You think he's his best conditioned and balanced in those pics? if that's the case my opinion isn't gospel just correct compared to yours
2001 Arnold Classic is considered his best for a reason
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You think he's his best conditioned and balanced in those pics? if that's the case my opinion isn't gospel just correct compared to yours
2001 Arnold Classic is considered his best for a reason
In those pics, he brought size to a whole new level---and you have to respect that.
He is over three-hundred pounds and has cuts and striations everywhere.
Nobody on this planet has ever been as big and ripped.
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In those pics, he brought size to a whole new level---and you have to respect that.
He is over three-hundred pounds and has cuts and striations everywhere.
Nobody on this planet has ever been as big and ripped.
cuts & striations everywhere? lol not quote he's massive with good conditioning for that size , his density & dryness pale in comparison to 1998/2001 his balance & proportion are way off tilt again compared to his previous showings , size for the sake of size is useless
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Great post ! objective honest and unbiased
he must know your pics ND.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
because you have quite the rep for touching up dorian pics... :-\
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he must know your pics ND.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
because you have quite the rep for touching up dorian pics... :-\
You're a liar I never touched up ANY pics ;) and that pic wasn't touched up by me just posted
and you should talk you're the idiot who was BUSTED posting enhanced pics for months and then posting links to video as proof it's not worked from the guy who worked them LMFAO talk about major backfire
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Kevin Horton exposing Hulkster and his partner for working pics lol
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he must know your pics ND.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=230546.0
because you have quite the rep for touching up dorian pics... :-\
Cmon man all pics get touched up. They have to so they look good in the mags and online. That's why the only true way to judge is by seeing it in person. I'm not saying flat out photoshopping but sharpening, brightening etc is very common. I've done a few photo shoots and after seeing the pics was amazed at how much better I looked due to the touching up of the pics.
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the top pic is the untouched dorian pic
the bottom pic is the touched up version LOL
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wrong.
don't you understand that dorian at his best never stood on the same stage at the same time as ronnie at his best?
duh.
this discussion (and others) is focused on which one would win if that had happened.
since we don't have a time machine and teleport machine, visual pics/videos are all we have to go by..
::)
so in this context, pics are very important.
I am so glad smart people are on this board to explain basic shit like this to the nuthuggers.
they would be so lost without us..
:P
On pics
JohnnyTosh GetBig 12-20-07
Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97? Because I was. AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago. It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.
Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately. BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.
Mr Gethin GetBig Steptember 10 , 2007
Beat Ronnie fare and square on the european tour...Huh? Were you there? Did you know anyone who was there, or are you speculating via pics? I'm a contest photog and can tell you that pics dont always give a true depiction.
Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates
" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.
MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia
" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .
Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.
" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own. Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hradness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live.
Bob Chick GetBig Jan 15 , 2007
The judges made their decision based on what they saw live and in person. Pictures mean nothing as they can be deceiving...
Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002
Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).
Dorian Yates on his phsysique
Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures. That's because my physique is thick and developed from all angles. From the front, from the back, from the side, standing on my head: it doesn't matter. Everywhere is fully developed from every angle. And this might not show in one-dimensional photos. When you turn somebody to the side and they are twice as thick as everyone else, then that shows up.
pictures mean NOTHING compared to actually being there , now what was that about ' smart people ' ? ;)
owned
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the top pic is the untouched dorian pic
the bottom pic is the touched up version LOL
at least you can finally admit the Ronnie pic is worked ;)
and moron the top pic is a shitty screencap from a compressed youtube video and the enhanced screencaps is a DVD still and I'm glad you agree pics aren't accurate compared to being there live and in person ;D
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and I'm glad you agree pics aren't accurate compared to being there live and in person
and here someone who has seen them BOTH ronnie and dorian live and in person:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252142.0
and I quote:
Dorian is not in the league of Ronnie.
Best Ronnie was from the outer space.
No competition.
fucking owned. just as the pics show. reality shows too.
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and here someone who has seen them BOTH ronnie and dorian live and in person:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=252142.0
and I quote:
fucking owned. just as the pics show. reality shows too.
LMFAO that's NOT reality you dummy that's personal preference
this is reality MORON
' fucking owned '
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him. He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha jackass your OWN hero who has seen himself and Dorian LIVE and in PERSON crushes you
thanks for playing ;)
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so isn't your perspective "personal preference" as well?
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so isn't your perspective "personal preference" as well?
No it's based on the judging criteria I wouldn't want to look like Yates ever or Ronnie but the bottom line is Dorian meets this criteria better than Ronnie
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but that is your opinion, not reality right? how does Doz adhere better to the judging "criteria" better than ronnie? the same judges who judged dorian, did not all judge ronnie. So saying dorian "meets the criteria more than ronnie does not make sense.
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but that is your opinion, not reality right? how does Doz adhere better to the judging "criteria" better than ronnie? the same judges who judged dorian, did not all judge ronnie. So saying dorian "meets the criteria more than ronnie does not make sense.
You're wrong the same judges have been in rotation for an eternity , Shawn Ray used to complain that the same judges who judged him in at the when he turned pro where still doing so years latter , a contest like the Olympia is judges by senior judges and not novices
and further more the criteria hasn't changed it's the same , judges pick who meets the criteria better than their contemporaries based on who is carrying more muscular bulk , who has better balance & proportion , who is harder & drier , who has better posing & presentation and what you have to understand is that ALL rounds are physique rounds which means all of that criteria is applied at one time in every single pose
So while Ronnie may meet part of this criteria better than Dorian as a whole he simply doesn't , ever wonder why and how Dorian can win the symmetry round despite not being the most ' symmetrical ' ? see above and you'll get your answer
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but that is your opinion, not reality right? how does Doz adhere better to the judging "criteria" better than ronnie? the same judges who judged dorian, did not all judge ronnie. So saying dorian "meets the criteria more than ronnie does not make sense
LOL no shit.
when eye witnesses who have seen both ronnie and dorian compete say dorian is better, ND says its 'reality'
when eye witnesses who have seen both ronnie and dorian compete say ronnie is better, its not reality and only 'personal preference'..
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this is how fucked up this moron is.. :-\
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, judges pick who meets the criteria better than their contemporaries based on who is carrying more muscular bulk , who has better balance & proportion , who is harder & drier , who has better posing & presentation and what you have to understand is that ALL rounds are physique rounds which means all of that criteria is applied at one time in every single pose
yes, and when that is done, ronnie is way better:
hope this helps..
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LOL no shit.
when eye witnesses who have seen both ronnie and dorian compete say dorian is better, ND says its 'reality'
when eye witnesses who have seen both ronnie and dorian compete say ronnie is better, its not reality and only 'personal preference'..
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this is how fucked up this moron is.. :-\
What makes his opinion trump Ronnies? lol again most people are like you THINK they have a clue on how it goes , you're an idiot who thinks Ronnie has more detailed calves and 1993 Dorian lost to Flex Wheeler again what do you know about competitive bodybuilding when you come to these conclusion? NOT A DAMN THING ;)
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how does Doz adhere better to the judging "criteria" better than ronnie?
tell us ND: lol
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tell us ND: lol
I'll tell you , he's bigger , harder , drier , has better balance and he's a better poser ;)
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lol
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I'll tell you , he's bigger , harder , drier , has better balance and he's a better poser ;)
thanks for showing how shitty ronnie was in 95 compared to his Mr. O wins...
thats the only reason why dorian and everyone else beat him back then...
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lmfao Ronnie is narrow and small, calves as big as they ever got hahah
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296015;image)
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thanks for showing how shitty ronnie was in 95 compared to his Mr. O wins...
thats the only reason why dorian and everyone else beat him back then...
Thanks for posting a slanted comparison ;) it give me a chance to show you how stupid you look
and how did Ronnie improve? more size and better conditioning , Sorry sport Dorian had even more size with UNEQUALED conditioning ...he would go down in flames like the 8 times before lmfao just ask someone who was there both live and in person ;)
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him. He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.
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lmfao Ronnie is narrow and small, calves as big as they ever got hahah
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296015;image)
22" arms and 13" calves LMFAO
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better than 13 inch arms and 22 inch calves?: :P
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better than 13 inch arms and 22 inch calves?: :P
Those arms handed Ronnie and his 22" arms their ass year in and year out ;)
owned
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hahahahah the sad thing for hulkster is that ronnie's calves truly were 13" bwahahahaha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296015;image)
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hahahahah the sad thing for hulkster is that ronnie's calves truly were 13" bwahahahaha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296015;image)
They didn't grow either until he injected them
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Dorian's arms were 21" ronnie's calves were 13" hahaha
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Dorian's arms were 21" ronnie's calves were 13" hahaha
13" calves 13" forearms lol
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same contest
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Jesus, how the fack did he win in 2002 :-X No wonder he was booed off the stage
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Jesus, how the fack did he win in 2002 :-X No wonder he was booed off the stage
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he had that very bad stretch of contests 2000/2001/2002
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I really laugh when I see someone saying Dorian is better than the KING RONNIE COLEMAN!! Loool
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my friend was at the olympia where dorian won his 6th sandow-he said dorian looked really bad and after the show when everyone was leaving everyone was disgusted w/ him winning
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my friend was at the olympia where dorian won his 6th sandow-he said dorian looked really bad and after the show when everyone was leaving everyone was disgusted w/ him winning
STFU. You made that up, gimmick.
Dorian was cheered when he was announced as the winner. Not a single boo....unlike 2002 when Ronnie was booed off the stage and the fans thought he should have been 5th
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LOL
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They didn't grow either until he injected them
they grew? ::)
you guys are so sad with this oil bullshit, one not relfected in any single pic in existance..
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STFU. You made that up, gimmick.
Dorian was cheered when he was announced as the winner. Not a single boo....unlike 2002 when Ronnie was booed off the stage and the fans thought he should have been 5th
no youre wrong cuz my friend wouldnt lie to me
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STFU. You made that up, gimmick.
Dorian was cheered when he was announced as the winner. Not a single boo....unlike 2002 when Ronnie was booed off the stage and the fans thought he should have been 5th
Flex magazine mentioned in its review about Mr. O. 96 that dorian's 1st place was booed so for sure it was booed again in 97 when he looked worse..
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Flex magazine mentioned in its review about Mr. O. 96 that dorian's 1st place was booed so for sure it was booed again in 97 when he looked worse..
No they didn't I have the magazine , what page?
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No they didn't I have the magazine , what page?
maybe youre confused!
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maybe youre confused!
1997 I believe he was booed when announced first , 1996 NO
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The fans always boo the winner. This year is probably the first time in 10 years they didnt boo.
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No they didn't I have the magazine , what page?
Ok check Dec. 1996 issue (the review about the Olympia).. I am waiting for you 2 check :D.. If u don't revert 2 me I will knw u r shy :D
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The fans always boo the winner. This year is probably the first time in 10 years they didnt boo.
The fans have their favorites and when they don't place they get vocal it proves nothing , most fans are ignorant on how contests are judged they like what they like , it reminds me of these guys at the UFC fights booing when guys are on the ground trying to work a submission , they don't have a clue what going on they want to see a hockey fight
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Ok check Dec. 1996 issue (the review about the Olympia).. I am waiting for you 2 check :D.. If u don't revert 2 me I will knw u r shy :D
Again what page? you seem to know ;) and keep waiting when I'm ready
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Again what page? you seem to know ;) and keep waiting when I'm ready
i read this issue 12 years ago but i dont keep it now.. i have an iron memory and i am sure of what i said, they mentioned something like "even dorian's 1st place was booed".. plz check and let me knw.. I am waiting :)
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i read this issue 12 years ago but i dont keep it now.. i have an iron memory and i am sure of what i said, they mentioned something like "even dorian's 1st place was booed".. plz check and let me knw.. I am waiting :)
good work
nd owned again!
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good work
nd owned again!
shut up dummy , owned shit I didn't even look for the magazine yet
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shut up dummy , owned shit I didn't even look for the magazine yet
wht r u waiting 4??.. do u fear smthng ;D
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Ronnie PWNED!
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The fans have their favorites and when they don't place they get vocal it proves nothing , most fans are ignorant on how contests are judged they like what they like , it reminds me of these guys at the UFC fights booing when guys are on the ground trying to work a submission , they don't have a clue what going on they want to see a hockey fight
That's what I meant. Booing a decision has no meaning since they always boo.
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Ronnie PWNED!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296015;image)
hahah wow you pik ronnie when he was a tiny tit and the best picture of dorian. tyour delusional. dorian was great at his best. dorian was nor onnie coleman. your a nationalist and a racist. i only say your racist too, because i know your from england (and thats why your a nationalist) haha.
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Ronnie PWNED!
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Ronnie didn't present any good shape before the year 1996.. It's unfair to compare dorian 93 wth ronnie 95..
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haha look at yates gut in that pic ;D
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wht r u waiting 4??.. do u fear smthng ;D
I don't fear being wrong I admitted he was booed in 1997 I don't recall it happening in 1996 , not saying it didn't I just don't recall if he was ....and it wouldn't make any difference what does it mean?
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Ronnie didn't present any good shape before the year 1996.. It's unfair to compare dorian 93 wth ronnie 95..
not kidding it's unfair hence exactly why I posted that , as a response to Hulkster's stupidity
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That's what I meant. Booing a decision has no meaning since they always boo.
but when the winner wins in a dominant and convincing way no one can boo or he will sound like an asshole.. no one 4 example could boo dorian's victory in 93 even flex wheeler's fans..
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but when the winner wins in a dominant and convincing way no one can boo or he will sound like an asshole.. no one 4 example could boo dorian's victory in 93 even flex wheeler's fans..
Not quite people always boo when their hero doesn't place , that's nonsense
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I don't fear being wrong I admitted he was booed in 1997 I don't recall it happening in 1996 , not saying it didn't I just don't recall if he was ....and it wouldn't make any difference what does it mean?
u mean u wont check the magazine??.. or u have already checked it and found wht i said was right :D
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1:33 see who's booing
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u mean u wont check the magazine??.. or u have already checked it and found wht i said was right :D
Again I'll check it when I'm ready ...it's not a priority and if your right what does it mean? NOTHING and I admitted he was booed in 1997 I don't fear fan reactions
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Dorian got the loudest ovation there ;)
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Dorian got the loudest ovation there ;)
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Any further questions?
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Again I'll check it when I'm ready ...it's not a priority and if your right what does it mean? NOTHING and I admitted he was booed in 1997 I don't fear fan reactions
ok man, nothing big,.. i just want to test my memory..
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Any further questions?
No.... Dorian is crushing Ronnie utterly in that shot
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ok man, nothing big,.. i just want to test my memory..
You're right , I'm wrong ....the magazine article
Shawn Ray's second place was booed, and eventually Yates too received the Bronx Cheer as he accepted his fifth Sandow.
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Any further questions?
any further questions? ;)
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You're right , I'm wrong ....the magazine article
Shawn Ray's second place was booed, and eventually Yates too received the Bronx Cheer as he accepted his fifth Sandow.
as u see shawn's 2nd place and dorian's 1st place were booed 4 one reason while nasser's 3rd place was booed 4 a totally diff. reason ;)
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Funny quote on Ronnie Coleman and ironic
Musclemag Oct 1996
on Ronnie's Canada Pro cup win
There is no way of telling jow big any new pro can get before muscle size overtakes God-given structure to ruin the beauty of proportion. Many a once impressive physique has been diminished by overbuild. Not so with Ronnie. Not yet anyway , and I hope , never will it be so. The man grows and grows annually while still retaining the freshness of a 20-year old. No he still hasn't the calves to match Dorian's or Steve Reevs but what he does have is all is own.
he did ruin his physique and his calves at 260 pounds couldn't match Steve Reeves lol
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as u see shawn's 2nd place and dorian's 1st place were booed 4 one reason while nasser's 3rd place was booed 4 a totally diff. reason ;)
It doesn't matter Nasser lost and failed the diuretics test to boot ....did you see the vid? Yates got the loudest cheers ;)
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It doesn't matter Nasser lost and failed the diuretics test to boot ....did you see the vid? Yates got the loudest cheers ;)
no i didn't.. could u plz post some parts like the pre-judging and posedown here :D .. i am asking seriously if you can..
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no i didn't.. could u plz post some parts like the pre-judging and posedown here :D .. i am asking seriously if you can..
I don't have any that was what was on Youtube other than Dorian's posing routine , NO boos here ;)
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ugh. dorian looks awful in that 96 clip except for the upper and lower back.
his arms and quads were horrid.
its funny how you nuthuggers can say he was so 'complete' when you literally have a bodybuilder with horrible extremities like arms, quads, not to mention a poor chest.
the man was as far away from complete as you can possibly get.
oh, and this also applies to his pre tear years too..
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Well this is a little interesting debate on booing @ the 1996 O that has started...Flex Mag Feb 1997........The 1996 Mr Olympia represented the biggest boo-fest since 1981, the presentation of the places........Paul Dillet 6th place...Booed.........Fl ex W 5th place...Booed...Kevin L 4th...Booed...Nasser 3rd...Booed...Shawn....2 nd...booed...Dorian ditto, EVERYONE of the top 6 were Booed @ the 1996 O not just Dorian, as ND has pointed out...if the fans HERO didnt place were THEY the FANS think their HERO should place then of course its a uproar.
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ugh. dorian looks awful in that 96 clip except for the upper and lower back.
his arms and quads were horrid.
its funny how you nuthuggers can say he was so 'complete' when you literally have a bodybuilder with horrible extremities like arms, quads, not to mention a poor chest.
the man was as far away from complete as you can possibly get.
oh, and this also applies to his pre tear years too..
you're ALWAYS in direct conflict with the judges ...which means you don't know shit about competitive bodybuilding ;)
your opinion is that of an internet-fan-boy and nothing more , stop trolling already
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Well this is a little interesting debate on booing @ the 1996 O that has started...Flex Mag Feb 1997........The 1996 Mr Olympia represented the biggest boo-fest since 1981, the presentation of the places........Paul Dillet 6th place...Booed.........Fl ex W 5th place...Booed...Kevin L 4th...Booed...Nasser 3rd...Booed...Shawn....2 nd...booed...Dorian ditto, EVERYONE of the top 6 were Booed @ the 1996 O not just Dorian, as ND has pointed out...if the fans HERO didnt place were THEY the FANS think their HERO should place then of course its a uproar.
Great post ! but these idiot see and hear what they want even though if contradicts history
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you're ALWAYS in direct conflict with the judges ...which means you don't know shit about competitive bodybuilding ;)
your opinion is that of an internet-fan-boy and nothing more , stop trolling already
and you continually show your lack of knowledge if you think his quads, arms and chest were good esp. that year by any standards...
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they were good compared to Kovacs maybe, but not much else... :-\
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and you continually show your lack of knowledge if you think his quads, arms and chest were good esp. that year by any standards...
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they were good compared to Kovacs maybe, but not much else... :-\
Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Well this is a little interesting debate on booing @ the 1996 O that has started...Flex Mag Feb 1997........The 1996 Mr Olympia represented the biggest boo-fest since 1981, the presentation of the places........Paul Dillet 6th place...Booed.........Fl ex W 5th place...Booed...Kevin L 4th...Booed...Nasser 3rd...Booed...Shawn....2 nd...booed...Dorian ditto, EVERYONE of the top 6 were Booed @ the 1996 O not just Dorian, as ND has pointed out...if the fans HERO didnt place were THEY the FANS think their HERO should place then of course its a uproar.
If i remember right:
paul looked good and ws booed coz some ppl saw he deserved to beat an off kevin and flex..
flex was off but his fans booed his place coz it was low 4 him and coz he was beaten again by kevin in their private battle (after AC 96)..
kevin was off and his place was booed by his fans coz it was considerably low and by flex's fans 4 the same reason as above..
nasser came at his best to date and his place was booed coz everyone was expecting him to be at least 2nd.. a lot saw him as the clear winner..
shawn came in a good shape but was booed coz he didnt deserve to beat nasser..
dorian was booed by nasser's fans..
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and you continually show your lack of knowledge if you think his quads, arms and chest were good esp. that year by any standards...
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they were good compared to Kovacs maybe, but not much else... :-\
Again you ALONE are always in direct opposition with the judges that means you don't know competitive bodybuilding , 1996 was an ' off ' year for HIM and he was still leaps & bounds better than EVERYONE Ronnie included
at his best Dorian is untouchable at his worse he was too
you're arguing against bodybuilding history dummy ......judge own you , I own you ;)
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If i remember right:
paul looked good and ws booed coz some ppl saw he deserved to beat an off kevin and flex..
flex was off but his fans booed his place coz it was low 4 him and coz he was beaten again by kevin in their private battle (after AC 96)..
kevin was off and his place was booed by his fans coz it was considerably low and by flex's fans 4 the same reason as above..
nasser came at his best to date and his place was booed coz everyone was expecting him to be at least 2nd.. a lot saw him as the clear winner..
shawn came in a good shape but was booed coz he didnt deserve to beat nasser..
dorian was booed by nasser's fans..
none of that makes any difference , fans don't judge contests , most fans don't have a dam clue on how contests are judged
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and you continually show your lack of knowledge if you think his quads, arms and chest were good esp. that year by any standards...
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they were good compared to Kovacs maybe, but not much else... :-\
your comments = fantasy
this quote = reality
Quote from John Balik, commenting on the 96 O:
"Dorian Yates looked absolutely fantastic. He was so freaking dense and so freaking ripped and dry, that he actually looked bigger than all the 280 lbs competitors, even though he tipped the scales at 255 lbs."
thanks for playing " I don't know shit about competitive bodybuilding. "
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none of that makes any difference , fans don't judge contests , most fans don't have a dam clue on how contests are judged
Yeah you are right it is judged by politics issue ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If not how come a man with one biceps become Mr.Olympia and #1 in the whole world ??? ???
It doesn’t need any smartness to know the truth ;)
Dorian’s 6 titles were because of POLITICS :)
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Yeah you are right it is judged by politics issue ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
If not how come a man with one biceps become Mr.Olympia and #1 in the whole world ??? ???
It doesn’t need any smartness to know the truth ;)
Dorian’s 6 titles were because of POLITICS :)
Have you watched any of the pre judging tapes during Dorian's reign of the Olympia?
If not I suggest you do... Dorian dominated... he was placed accordingly
no politics, no nonsense... dominance
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Peter McGough on Dorian at the 1996 Mr Olympia
Dorian Yates : The man was in situ was rock hard . His 257 pounds were augmented by an improved waist taper , His damaged left biceps has filled out remarkably and the only negative is that he could have been fuller in the thighs. But with his blend of size , symmetry , detail and condition , he was equipped to resist every challenge . At 3:25 p.m. as Yates completed the individual mandatories , the fat lady left the dressing room.
reality ;)
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Quote from Steve Blechman, 1995:
"Even though he doesen't represent my bodybuilding ideal, I think Dorian's overall development is mind-blogging. And when you consider that his frame carrries his size so comfortably, and that he presents his mass with such incredible conditioning...I don't think that Dorian can be defeated by current professional judging standards. He'll be Mr.Olympia for as long as he wants to."
Another dose of reality
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Have you watched any of the pre judging tapes during Dorian's reign of the Olympia?
If not I suggest you do... Dorian dominated... he was placed accordingly
no politics, no nonsense... dominance
I have seen all the Olympia video since 92 until now and that is how I see them:
Kevin Levrone looked better than him in 92
Flex Wheeler looked better than him in 93
Shawn Ray & kevin looked better than him in 94
Shawn, Kevin & Nasser looked better than him in 95
Shawn, Nasser, Kevin, Flex & Ronnie looked better than him in 96
Kevin, Shawn, Nasser, Lee, looked better than him in 97
Do you stil argue it is not about Politics..? ???
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none of that makes any difference , fans don't judge contests , most fans don't have a dam clue on how contests are judged
but when we (the fans) see jay beating vic. in 2007 then coming in a better shape (still shitty) in 2008 and could beat dex. (who is not as good as vic.) we must wonder.. same thing when dorian took his last title with a totally deformed arm..
as the fans of the sport we at least know that judges care about things like size, condition, symmetry, proportion.. ok if i apply these on 97:
size: dorian was big but not full so the extra size he added this year was against him..
condition: dorian was bad comparing to his full and sharp shape of 95 for example.. his condition in 97 was worse than most of the other top guys..
symmetry: his left deformed arm killed this point totally..
proportion (harmony bet. diff. parts): his arms (even his right arm) looked small for his torso.. his shoulders too looked weak for his size.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper body.. his bloated stomach made him look like he was guest posing..
yes the fans r not prof. but still can say their opinions as long as they make sense..
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but when we (the fans) see jay beating vic. in 2007 then coming in a better shape (still shitty) in 2008 and could beat dex. (who is not as good as vic.) we must wonder.. same thing when dorian took his last title with a totally deformed arm..
as the fans of the sport we at least know that judges care about things like size, condition, symmetry, proportion.. ok if i apply these on 97:
size: dorian was big but not full so the extra size he added this year was against him..
condition: dorian was bad comparing to his full and sharp shape of 95 for example.. his condition in 97 was worse than most of the other top guys..
symmetry: his left deformed arm killed this point totally..
proportion (harmony bet. diff. parts): his arms (even his right arm) looked small for his torso.. his shoulders too looked weak for his size.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper body.. his bloated stomach made him look like he was guest posing..
yes the fans r not prof. but still can say their opinions as long as they make sense..
Really great Post that touches the hearts of any bodybuilder who wish the best for the sport :)
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Really great Post that touches the hearts of any bodybuilder who wish the best for the sport :)
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your comments = fantasy
this quote = reality
Quote from John Balik, commenting on the 96 O:
"Dorian Yates looked absolutely fantastic. He was so freaking dense and so freaking ripped and dry, that he actually looked bigger than all the 280 lbs competitors, even though he tipped the scales at 255 lbs."
thanks for playing " I don't know shit about competitive bodybuilding. "
Sure this john balik was a blind Dorian's fan.. it's clear he was referring to nasser whn he said (that he actually looked bigger than all the 280 lbs competitors, even though he tipped the scales at 255 lbs) coz nasser was the only one from the top places to weight 280 pound.. post as much quotas as you want but this doesn't tell the truth.. these same guys saw tht dorian looked better in 96 than 95!!!!..
does dorian really look bigger thn naser here??..
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symmetry: his left deformed arm killed this point totally..
according to the judges (ND likes to quote one from 94) his torn bi made 'no difference" ::)
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this is how bad the judging was back then, and the idiot nuthuggers actually agree with it lol
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I think we are wrong when we compare Dorian to guys like: Kevin, Ronnie, Flex, Shawn and Nasser. :-\
We have to compare him to guys like this ;D
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Peter McGough on Dorian at the 1996 Mr Olympia
Dorian Yates : The man was in situ was rock hard . His 257 pounds were augmented by an improved waist taper , His damaged left biceps has filled out remarkably and the only negative is that he could have been fuller in the thighs. But with his blend of size , symmetry , detail and condition , he was equipped to resist every challenge . At 3:25 p.m. as Yates completed the individual mandatories , the fat lady left the dressing room.
reality ;)
holy fuck! he said his left arm filled in dramatically?
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its no wonder this man says such stupid things about dorian, considering he was a good friend.
tell us, does this arm look filled in to you:
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nuthuggers why do you quote Peter McGough so much when most of what he says is total bullshit motivated by his friendship with dorian? ???
I don't know whats worse - this latest comment about the deformed arm
or
the comment that precontest dorian was harder than ronnie ever was in contest shape.
both are so ridiculously stupid, silly and easily refuted its not even funny.
and yet, you morons are stupid enough to blindly believe anything the man says...
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holy fuck! he said his left arm filled in dramatically?
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its no wonder this man says such stupid things about dorian, considering he was a good friend.
tell us, does this arm look filled in to you:
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lol.. sure it was not filled.. dorian's left bi was severely torn and about 50% or more of its fibers was damaged with no return.. so how come 2 say he filled it?!!.. when a muscle is damaged like this it's deformed 4 ever as nothing can help to return it.. this doesn't make any sense..
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lol.. sure it was not filled.. dorian's left bi was severely torn and about 50% or more of its fibers was damaged with no return.. so how come 2 say he filled it?!!.. when a muscle is damage like this it's deformed 4 ever as nothing can help to return it.. this doesn't make any sense..
no shit.
most of the time when he is talking about his good friend dorian, Peter McGough doesn't make any sense...
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so how come 2 say he filled it?!!..
because Peter McGough will spout total bullshit if he thinks it would make his friend look good..
he seems to do it on a regular basis...and we have ND to constantly remind us of this fact when posting gems like this lol
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Dorian never lost after 1991.
Ronnie lost to horrible BBs hahahaha
True 13" calves on Ronnie LMFAO
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yea dorian is better, he has bigger stomach :P
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but when we (the fans) see jay beating vic. in 2007 then coming in a better shape (still shitty) in 2008 and could beat dex. (who is not as good as vic.) we must wonder.. same thing when dorian took his last title with a totally deformed arm..
as the fans of the sport we at least know that judges care about things like size, condition, symmetry, proportion.. ok if i apply these on 97:
size: dorian was big but not full so the extra size he added this year was against him..
condition: dorian was bad comparing to his full and sharp shape of 95 for example.. his condition in 97 was worse than most of the other top guys..
symmetry: his left deformed arm killed this point totally..
proportion (harmony bet. diff. parts): his arms (even his right arm) looked small for his torso.. his shoulders too looked weak for his size.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper body.. his bloated stomach made him look like he was guest posing..
yes the fans r not prof. but still can say their opinions as long as they make sense..
Flex Magazine coverage 1997 Mr Olympia
When the two were compared , Nasser took the front double biceps and abs-and-thighs poses , but as soon as they turned to the side , Dorian's greater development , thickness and detail overshadowed Nasser , and when the champion's back came into play , it was all over. But Yates' overall superiority was only apparent in six comparisons ( three in the relaxed round , and three in the muscularity round ) that he and El Sonbaty were involved in , which accounted for about eight minutes of the two-hour prejudging. Head-to-toe , and when all the angles had been considered , Yates was the clear winner
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Dorian owns Ronnie here so bad that it's not even funny 8)
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I find it sad that ND uses politically motivated ( ie Weider IFBB mag) quotes as proof of the non political nature and accuracy of the scores...
it makes no sense...
you can't go to the soure of the bias as proof that there was no bias... ::)
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thats why the visuals are so powerful - they tell the real story...
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I find it sad that ND uses politically motivated ( ie Weider IFBB mag) quotes as proof of the non political nature and accuracy of the scores...
it makes no sense...
you can't go to the soure of the bias as proof that there was no bias... ::)
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thats why the visuals are so powerful - they tell the real story...
Kid shut up already , it's politics , it's politics
that's ALL you have left and is Ironman a Weider mag? is Musclemag? is Muscular Development? yeah I thought so
YOU are ALWAYS , always in direct conflict with the judges that means YOU don't know shit about bodybuilding ;)
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Ronnie 99 pales in comparison to 1998 and 2001 which is exactly why EVERYONE says 2001 is his best showing
1999 is junk compared to 2001 and it doesn't matter because NEITHER can match Dorian for the total package
2003 WOULD HAVE DWARFED DORIAN and was Ronnies best package ever.
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Flex Magazine coverage 1997 Mr Olympia
When the two were compared , Nasser took the front double biceps and abs-and-thighs poses , but as soon as they turned to the side , Dorian's greater development , thickness and detail overshadowed Nasser , and when the champion's back came into play , it was all over. But Yates' overall superiority was only apparent in six comparisons ( three in the relaxed round , and three in the muscularity round ) that he and El Sonbaty were involved in , which accounted for about eight minutes of the two-hour prejudging. Head-to-toe , and when all the angles had been considered , Yates was the clear winner
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it's shit 2 really believe tht dorian ws thicker thn nasser from the side.. dorian's fans always repeat this in a bitchy way.. how come???.. nasser's shoulders, arms, & chest were much bigger and harder than dorian's.. also his quads were bigger and harder so the side view of all these muscles logically looked thicker on nasser than on dorian.. let's 4get all abt 97 and dorian's shitty shape and here i am comparing their 2 side shots frm mr. o. 95 which is dorian's best shape ever.. although i agree than dorian deserved to win in 95 i am sure nasser ws noticeably thicker from the side.. look well at the pics and compare each part separately and imagine u dont knw who r these guys!!..
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it's shit 2 really believe tht dorian ws thicker thn nasser from the side.. dorian's fans always repeat this in a bitchy way.. how come???.. nasser's shoulders, arms, & chest were much bigger and harder than dorian's.. also his quads were bigger and harder so the side view of all these muscles logically looked thicker on nasser than on dorian.. let's 4get all abt 97 and dorian's shitty shape and here i am comparing their 2 side shots frm mr. o. 95 which is dorian's best shape ever.. although i agree than dorian deserved to win in 95 i am sure nasser ws noticeably thicker from the side.. look well at the pics and compare each part separately and imagine u dont knw who r these guys!!..
Nasser is killing Dorian there.
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2003 WOULD HAVE DWARFED DORIAN and was Ronnies best package ever.
2003 is FAR from his best package and he wouldn't dwarf Yates not at 269 pounds
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it's shit 2 really believe tht dorian ws thicker thn nasser from the side.. dorian's fans always repeat this in a bitchy way.. how come???.. nasser's shoulders, arms, & chest were much bigger and harder than dorian's.. also his quads were bigger and harder so the side view of all these muscles logically looked thicker on nasser than on dorian.. let's 4get all abt 97 and dorian's shitty shape and here i am comparing their 2 side shots frm mr. o. 95 which is dorian's best shape ever.. although i agree than dorian deserved to win in 95 i am sure nasser ws noticeably thicker from the side.. look well at the pics and compare each part separately and imagine u dont knw who r these guys!!..
Yeah because YOU were there pics don't tell ALL of the story and Dorian himself said he killed Nasser from the sides as well , it's old news Dorian is crushing Nasser in both pics
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Nasser is killing Dorian there.
yes 4 sure.. the only 2 parts dorian ws better from the side were the triceps and the calve..
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Yeah because YOU were there pics don't tell ALL of the story and Dorian himself said he killed Nasser from the sides as well , it's old news Dorian is crushing Nasser in both pics
ahh the infamous "pictures don't tell the story, you had to see Dorian in person, he looks a lot smaller in pics than he did in person TRUST ME" ::)
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ahh the infamous "pictures don't tell the story, you had to see Dorian in person, he looks a lot smaller in pics than he did in person TRUST ME" ::)
he's clearly crushing Nasser in BOTH pics and everyone says it what is there a mass conspricay?
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Yeah because YOU were there pics don't tell ALL of the story and Dorian himself said he killed Nasser from the sides as well , it's old news Dorian is crushing Nasser in both pics
if u belive so just plz explain to me how.. how 2 have a bigger shoulder, chest, arms, & legs but still doesn't look thicker!!!..
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On that bottom left hand pic it looks like he is letting a huge ass belch rip after drinking a 12 pack
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he's clearly crushing Nasser in BOTH pics and everyone says it what is there a mass conspricay?
hahahahaha, he's not clearly crushing shit, the ONLY thing Dorian wins on in those shots is triceps.
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ahh the infamous "pictures don't tell the story, you had to see Dorian in person, he looks a lot smaller in pics than he did in person TRUST ME" ::)
yes yes may b his muscles were shrinking in front of the cam. ;D
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hahahahaha, he's not clearly crushing shit, the ONLY thing Dorian wins on in those shots is triceps.
yeah ok this coming from the guy who claims Nasser killed Dorian in a back shot , indicative of your ignorance , who won the contest with straight firsts? ;) that means Dorian KILLED him in ALL shots
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yes yes may b his muscles were shrinking in front of the cam. ;D
it's always the same thing with Narc, if you post pics of Dorian getting fuccking SMOKED by Ronnie or Nasser or Shawn it's "you clearly know nothing about bodybuilding, Dorian may look smaller but he's clearly winning those shots, what you see isn't always the way it looks, Dorian is exerting mind control on the judges" ;D
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if u belive so just plz explain to me how.. how 2 have a bigger shoulder, chest, arms, & legs but still doesn't look thicker!!!..
don't mistake bigger with better first of all and second of all what good is being bigger when your conditioning if inferior ?
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it's always the same thing with Narc, if you post pics of Dorian getting fuccking SMOKED by Ronnie or Nasser or Shawn it's "you clearly know nothing about bodybuilding,
exactly.
the man types the same tired bullshit no matter how clearly wrong it is...
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it's always the same thing with Narc, if you post pics of Dorian getting fuccking SMOKED by Ronnie or Nasser or Shawn it's "you clearly know nothing about bodybuilding, Dorian may look smaller but he's clearly winning those shots, what you see isn't always the way it looks, Dorian is exerting mind control on the judges" ;D
No it's always the same with you make a blanket statement that contradicts REALITY Dorian destroyed everyone in 1995 there was NO contest , you see what you want and it's always in direct opposition of what the judges picked as the superior physique , then once faced with that reality the good old politics excuse comes out , moronic circular logic , keep chashing your tail in circles NO ONE smoked Dorian especially not in 1995
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exactly.
the man types the same tired bullshit no matter how clearly wrong it is...
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Ha ha ha ha I'm right the judges agree with ME lol you're the moron who is arguing against bodybuilding history
owned
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Kid shut up already , it's politics , it's politics
that's ALL you have left and is Ironman a Weider mag? is Musclemag? is Muscular Development? yeah I thought so
YOU are ALWAYS , always in direct conflict with the judges that means YOU don't know shit about bodybuilding ;)
musclemag was very critical of many of dorian's later wins...
care to explain? ::)
secondly, your doing it again ::):
you don't get that you can't look to the judges scores as proof that there was no politics, because they were likely politically motivated in the first place...the visuals make that quite clear.
if you knew anything about arugments and philosophy, you would know this is called begging the question - you are assuming that what you are trying to argue is true in the first place. ::)
you are trying to argue there were no politics on the judges part by looking at the judges own scores! ::)
this is a phallacy.
you have to look to the visuals
and when you do, its quite clear that dorian was given highly inflated scoring...
its so sad you know so little about not only bodybuilding but philosophy too..
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don't mistake bigger with better first of all and second of all what good is being bigger when your conditioning if inferior ?
do u mean tht nasser's shape and condition were not good??.. u could say this abt marcus ruhl 4 example coz he is big but not good looking.. nasser's shape ws very good and well proportioned.. all his parts went in a good way together.. same thing with dorian.. so both of them looked good but nasser ws considerably bigger..
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haha nd owned last night
owned the day before
owned today
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musclemag was very critical of many of dorian's later wins...
care to explain? ::)
secondly, your doing it again ::):
you don't get that you can't look to the judges scores as proof that there was no politics, because they were likely politically motivated in the first place...the visuals make that quite clear.
if you knew anything about arugments and philosophy, you would know this is called begging the question - you are assuming that what you are trying to argue is true in the first place. ::)
you are trying to argue there were no politics on the judges part by looking at the judges own scores! ::)
this is a phallacy.
you have to look to the visuals
and when you do, its quite clear that dorian was given highly inflated scoring...
its so sad you know so little about not only bodybuilding but philosophy too..
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meltdown ;)
NO musculemag wasn't critical of his latter wins LIE #1
and again moron you're the idiot who claims POLITICS only for Dorian but Ronnie was his titles all fair & square LMAO stfu already with this bullshit
either all contests are fixed are NO contests are fixed you can't have it both ways
you see what you want , all of you idiots do morons claiming Dorian is losing a side chest and side triceps in 1995 LMFAO visuals prove Dorian is DOMINATING all you idiots can do is deny , HISTORY proves Dorian DOMINATED yet morons deny , deny , deny it's all you have ..keep it ;)
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haha nd owned last night
owned the day before
owned today
Stop trolling NatFag either get in the game or sit on the bench ;)
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do u mean tht nasser's shape and condition were not good??.. u could say this abt marcus ruhl 4 example coz he is big but not good looking.. nasser's shape ws very good and well proportioned.. all his parts went in a good way together.. same thing with dorian.. so both of them looked good but nasser ws considerably bigger..
He wasn't considerable bigger not in 1995 and NO his conditioning from the front was good from the back it sucked from the sides Yates crushed him you can argue until your blue in the face but facts are facts Dorian destroyed Nasser at his best and at his worse
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meltdown ;)
NO musculemag wasn't critical of his latter wins LIE #1
and again moron you're the idiot who claims POLITICS only for Dorian but Ronnie was his titles all fair & square LMAO stfu already with this bullshit
either all contests are fixed are NO contests are fixed you can't have it both ways
you see what you want , all of you idiots do morons claiming Dorian is losing a side chest and side triceps in 1995 LMFAO visuals prove Dorian is DOMINATING all you idiots can do is deny , HISTORY proves Dorian DOMINATED yet morons deny , deny , deny it's all you have ..keep it ;)
yes i said tht nasser ws better in the side shots and i mentioned why.. on the other hand u see tht dorian ws better and "thicker" in the side shots but dont or may be cant explain how!!..
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yes i said tht nasser ws better in the side shots and i mentioned why.. on the other hand u see tht dorian ws better and "thicker" in the side shots but dont or may be cant explain how!!..
Again bigger doesn't mean better even if it's true especially seeing his conditioning isn't on Yates' level
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He wasn't considerable bigger not in 1995 and NO his conditioning from the front was good from the back it sucked from the sides Yates crushed him you can argue until your blue in the face but facts are facts Dorian destroyed Nasser at his best and at his worse
at his worse too!!.. u mean in 97??.. but like this u r talking frm the judges point of view and not frm ur own point of view.. right ;)
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at his worse too!!.. u mean in 97??.. but like this u r talking frm the judges point of view and not frm ur own point of view.. right ;)
They both weighed the same in 1997 and Dorian looked bigger
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They both weighed the same in 1997 and Dorian looked bigger
hahahhaha.. ys ys u r right dorian looked bigger!!.. in these pics nasser looked bigger but of course in reality dorian looked bigger coz we all knw that dorian's body ws shrinking in front of the cam. 4 an unknown reason.. hahhahaaa..
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hahahhaha.. ys ys u r right dorian looked bigger!!.. in these pics nasser looked bigger but of course in reality dorian looked bigger coz we all knw that dorian's body ws shrinking in front of the cam. 4 an unknown reason.. hahhahaaa..
standing relaxed Yates clearly looks bigger despite being further away from the camera and he looks comparable in size in the other pic and the front latspread he looks bigger and combine that with the fact he's harder ;) you have your answer
Sorry kid Dorian looks much bigger here ;) thanks for playing
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Dorian 270 pounds , Nasser 270 pounds Dorian clearly making him look small
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standing relaxed Yates clearly looks bigger despite being further away from the camera and he looks comparable in size in the other pic and the front latspread he looks bigger and combine that with the fact he's harder ;) you have your answer
Sorry kid Dorian looks much bigger here ;) thanks for playing
ur love 2 dorian has affected ur sight ;D as i mentioned b4 dorian's added weight in 97 ws against him.. he looked better at 255 pounds.. he didnt have 2 try 2 reach nasser's size and had to respect his abilities :)
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How about 285 bone dry conditioned pounds like right here ;)
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More ;)
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How about 285 bone dry conditioned pounds like right here ;)
bone dry ? not quite ...his conditioning looks good for that weight but to say bone dry is simply not true , especially when is back is soft
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ur love 2 dorian has affected ur sight ;D as i mentioned b4 dorian's added weight in 97 ws against him.. he looked better at 255 pounds.. he didnt have 2 try 2 reach nasser's size and had to respect his abilities :)
No kidding he looked better at 260 pounds in 1995 ;) but the weight was obviously NOT against him in 1997 HE WON and made Nasser at the same weight look small
and Dorian was huge well before Nasser ever came along and with better conditioning something Nasser couldn't duplicate ;)
his whole back digressed the heavier he became
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No kidding he looked better at 260 pounds in 1995 ;) but the weight was obviously NOT against him in 1997 HE WON and made Nasser at the same weight look small
and Dorian was huge well before Nasser ever came along and with better conditioning something Nasser couldn't duplicate ;)
his whole back digressed the heavier he became
All lighting. Also, the 97 pic is cut off on the edges which gives the impression that the size difference was less than actual.
At the 95 O Nasser was 265 (not 260). I personally think Nasser's best was at 280-289 lbs (he weighed 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic).
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All lighting. Also, the 97 pic is cut off on the edges which gives the impression that the size difference was less than actual.
At the 95 O Nasser was 265 (not 260). I personally think Nasser's best was at 280-289 lbs (he weighed 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic).
all lighting lol in all pics? my ass
and Dorian was 260 pounds in 1995 ;) Nasser looked his best at around 250 pounds his conditioning was better and so was his back
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One interesting thing about the Dorian vs Ronnie debate is as follows: a hypothetical meeting between prime Dorian and prime Ronnie would take place at an I.F.B.B show and they would be judged by I.F.B.B judges, because they both became what they are by winning the I.F.B.B's premier show. Yet Hulkster looks at pictures of Dorian from contests that Dorian won and claims that everyone else is "clarly destroying", the "keg". This means that Hulkster's taste is in direct opposition to what the judes favor! So, Hulkster's opinion that Coleman 99' would defeat Dorian 95' means that Dorian 95' would win, since Hulkster's opinion is the opposite of what I.F.B.B judges favor. The...fucking....end. :P
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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One interesting thing about the Dorian vs Ronnie debate is as follows: a hypothetical meeting between prime Dorian and prime Ronnie would take place at an I.F.B.B show and they would be judged by I.F.B.B judges, because they both became what they are by winning the I.F.B.B's premier show. Yet Hulkster looks at pictures of Dorian from contests that Dorian won and claims that everyone else is "clarly destroying", the "keg". This means that Hulkster's taste is in direct opposition to what the judes favor! So, Hulkster's opinion that Coleman 99' would defeat Dorian 95' means that Dorian 95' would win, since Hulkster's opinion is the opposite of what I.F.B.B judges favor. The...fucking....end. :P
SUCKMYMUSCLE
My point exactly ....his opinion always , always contradicts the judges that means he knows NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding .
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Great pictures ND. Yates is the clear winner.
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Looking at this picture how can shawn ray even think he deserves to be places above Dorian or Nasser lmfao
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296329;image)
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Looking at this picture how can shawn ray even think he deserves to be places above Dorian or Nasser lmfao
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296329;image)
Both 270 pounds and Nasser looks a lot smaller than Yates
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I find it both funny and sad that you somehow think that my opinion is mine only and only held by me.
in case you didn't notice, most of the bb community feels yates was overrated.
if you idiots paid attention you would know this.
most feel nasser crushed dorian from the front, most feel 1994 and 1997 was a scam win for dorian.
there is a good reason why most feel this way:
because the visuals clearly do not reflect what the judges scored.
they were motivated by Uncle Joe.
the bb community is not. and they have an unbiased opinion that is supported by the visuals.
hope this helps
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I find it both funny and sad that you somehow think that my opinion is mine only and only held by me.
in case you didn't notice, most of the bb community feels yates was overrated.
if you idiots paid attention you would know this.
most feel nasser crushed dorian from the front, most feel 1994 and 1997 was a scam win for dorian.
there is a good reason why most feel this way:
because the visuals clearly do not reflect what the judges scored.
they were motivated by Uncle Joe.
the bb community is not. and they have an unbiased opinion that is supported by the visuals.
hope this helps
Thanks for agreeing most of the BB community are morons like you and are always in direct conflict with the judges I.E. meaning they're like you , DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT COMPETITIVE BODYBUILDING
and look who agrees with you
Coleman fans which Dorian beat year in year out and ironically he doesn't agree with you lmao
Nasser fans see above
Levrone fans see above
Ray fans see above
Dillet fans see above
Dorian is the clear winner in oics , in video and it's all confirmed with the judges pick you have NOTHING as usual
and depending on the year Nasser did beat Dorian in the front and just to let you know moron contests aren't judged from just the front ;)
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its so funny that no matter what bodybuilding forum i visit people always mock yates and talk about how crappy he looked
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its so funny that no matter what bodybuilding forum i visit people always mock yates and talk about how crappy he looked
Completely goes against what those that were there said AND when you post unbiased pictures ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296327;image)
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Dorian is the clear winner
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its so funny that no matter what bodybuilding forum i visit people always mock yates and talk about how crappy he looked
That's because he beat all of your heros ;)
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Completely goes against what those that were there said AND when you post unbiased pictures ;)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296327;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296329;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296330;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296331;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296332;image)
ha ha ha ha don't beat him over the head with logic he might die lol
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296333;image)
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Dorian is the clear winner
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Smells like cock and balls here.
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ND is taking the nasserites apart with logic and critical reasoning.
Coleman Vs Yates makes sense- they are both multiple Olympia winners but comparing decrepit never was like nasser to these two greats is just retarded.
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ND is taking the nasserites apart with logic and critical reasoning.
Coleman Vs Yates makes sense- they are both multiple Olympia winners but comparing decrepit never was like nasser to these two greats is just retarded.
hearing this from a piece of shit like u doesn't say anythng valuable..
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hearing this from a piece of shit like u doesn't say anythng valuable..
meltdown
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hearing this from a piece of shit like u doesn't say anythng valuable..
How ironic- coming from the retard who pretended to be a Yates fan in the beginning.
Why don't you go troll somewhere else monkeyman
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How ironic- coming from the retard who pretended to be a Yates fan in the beginning.
Why don't you go troll somewhere else monkeyman
I love when they all preface their statements with " I'm a fan of Dorian but " lol pure bull shit
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I love when they all preface their statements with " I'm a fan of Dorian but " lol pure bull shit
Yes- that's exactly how he started trolling here with " I'm a huge fan of Yates" story and later changed it to reveal his real agenda.
Liars never prosper.
When they fail to make intelligent arguments for their hero they resort to slander and insults to make up for it.
Typical
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296329;image)
Brutal ownage from Yates.
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Yes- that's exactly how he started trolling here with " I'm a huge fan of Yates" story and later changed it to reveal his real agenda.
Liars never prosper.
When they fail to make intelligent arguments for their hero they resort to slander and insults to make up for it.
Typical
Exactly ...they seek comfort in numbers as some sort of validation their ignorance is correct , they've been reduced to saying he never deserved ANY wins and he gets owned at every contest which contradicts reality , their at the end of their rope what else can they do?
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296329;image)
Brutal ownage from Yates.
Big time!
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Big time!
And these idiots claim at the same weight Dorian didn't make him look small lol
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And these idiots claim at the same weight Dorian didn't make him look small lol
For years, based on a few "select" photos, I was of the opinion that Nasser won the Olympia in 1997, hands down. I then saw the video from the contest, which drew my attention to Dorian's much greater density and overall development. When watching Nasser's routine, his physique doesn't pop in the manner you would anticipate. And as the Flex contest article states, as soon as things turn to the side, it's all over but the crying. The series of pics posted clearly show Dorian's dominance.
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in case you didn't notice, most of the bb community feels yates was overrated
What bodybuilding community? :D How many bodybuilders do you personally know? :D And even on BB boards which good level amateur or a Pro of past or present said that Yates was overrated? :)
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i have to admit that is an AWESOME shot of Yates.
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What bodybuilding community? :D How many bodybuilders do you personally know? :D And even on BB boards which good level amateur or a Pro of past or present said that Yates was overrated? :)
The imaginary masses he thinks ALL agree with him and what's funny is Ronnie Coleman has a very strong respect for Dorian and vice versa to bad his fans don't
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For years, based on a few "select" photos, I was of the opinion that Nasser won the Olympia in 1997, hands down. I then saw the video from the contest, which drew my attention to Dorian's much greater density and overall development.
I bet Hulkster and co. didn't watch that video :D They just speak in the name of bodybuilding community:)))
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I bet Hulkster and co. didn't watch that video :D They just speak in the name of bodybuilding community:)))
They watched it and they see what they want they post select pics and claims victories , he's the master of posting the most muscular shot over and over and over lol
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For years, based on a few "select" photos, I was of the opinion that Nasser won the Olympia in 1997, hands down. I then saw the video from the contest, which drew my attention to Dorian's much greater density and overall development. When watching Nasser's routine, his physique doesn't pop in the manner you would anticipate. And as the Flex contest article states, as soon as things turn to the side, it's all over but the crying. The series of pics posted clearly show Dorian's dominance.
the thing with 1997 is Dorian gets beat pretty easy in the front standing relaxed by Nasser , and you could give him the ab-thigh too as well as the front double biceps shot , but 1/4 turns and side shots Dorian edges him out and back shots forget it , I could understand them saying Nasser could have won , I could understand them saying he should have been closer , but to say Nasser clearly beats him is just not accurate
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The imaginary masses he thinks ALL agree with him and what's funny is Ronnie Coleman has a very strong respect for Dorian and vice versa to bad his fans don't
His statement is so laughable to me ;D I know almost every Russian top amateur or pro bodybuilder who writes on internet boards and 95% of them think Yates was the greatest Olympia ever. 8)
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His statement is so laughable to me ;D I know almost every Russian top amateur or pro bodybuilder who writes on internet boards and 95% of them think Yates was the greatest Olympia ever. 8)
It's fine he thinks Ronnie is better a LOT of people feel that but he goes above and beyond to trash the guy , he has to
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i have to admit that is an AWESOME shot of Yates.
:D
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meltdown
me? why?.. u r the one who keeps changing wht he says.. u said b4 tht frm ur point of view nasser deserved to beat dorian in 97 then now u r talking abt dorian as the clear winner!!.. u r contradicting urself in a funny way.. may b u r angry coz u argued wth me tht dorian's 5th olympia ws nt booed and asked me twice 2 mention flex magazine's page number that confirms this, thn when u found wht i said ws true u started 2 decrease the importance of booing!!..
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I love when they all preface their statements with " I'm a fan of Dorian but " lol pure bull shit
ys i am a fan of dorian and i dont care if u believe it or nt.. but i am not a blind fan like u.. whn he looked like shit although i felt bad 4 him didn't like the fact 2 give him an undeserved title..and of course i am a big fan of nasser but i would never say he presented any decent shape after AC 99.. anyway thx 4 the picsu posted frm mr. o. 97 coz i didnt see some of thm b4..
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Exactly ...they seek comfort in numbers as some sort of validation their ignorance is correct , they've been reduced to saying he never deserved ANY wins and he gets owned at every contest which contradicts reality , their at the end of their rope what else can they do?
at least i mentioned in details why nasser looked thicker frm the side poses.. but u said dorian was thicker just coz the magazines said so!!.. this reveals tht u dont knw shit abt the sport.. i am also sorry u r talking nw like the other bitches of getbig..
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And these idiots claim at the same weight Dorian didn't make him look small lol
u r the blind idiot here coz even if dorian looked bigger thn nasser on this day (which of cource ws nt true) this is something bad 4 him.. 2 have arms half nasser's arms and shoulders half kevin's or nasser's shoulders but still with a bigger torso than them this means his proportion ws shit..
dorian with his bloated waist and small shoulders and arms ws nearly the same weight as nasser with his much smaller waist and much bigger chest, cshoulders, arms, and quads.. doesn't this tell why bth of them weighted the same?.. one kept his weight in his big belly while the other put it into muscles.. again u r proving urself 2 knw nothing abt the sport.. just a dorian's blind lover..
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For years, based on a few "select" photos, I was of the opinion that Nasser won the Olympia in 1997, hands down. I then saw the video from the contest, which drew my attention to Dorian's much greater density and overall development. When watching Nasser's routine, his physique doesn't pop in the manner you would anticipate. And as the Flex contest article states, as soon as things turn to the side, it's all over but the crying. The series of pics posted clearly show Dorian's dominance.
yes u r right he had much gerater density while all his muscles except his back and calve were much smaller than nasser's!!.. u dont make any sense here..
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the thing with 1997 is Dorian gets beat pretty easy in the front standing relaxed by Nasser , and you could give him the ab-thigh too as well as the front double biceps shot , but 1/4 turns and side shots Dorian edges him out and back shots forget it , I could understand them saying Nasser could have won , I could understand them saying he should have been closer , but to say Nasser clearly beats him is just not accurate
ironically u urself said b4 tht u personally believed nasser deserved 2 beat dorian on tht day.. again u r contradicting urself in as silly way tht shows ur ignorance..
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multiple meltdowns by the new nasser guy - as usual nothing intelligent to say other than broken english insults and utter nonsense
Go cry somewhere else homo
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Are you guys really still doing this? I mean lets be realistic, kamali beats them both...
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but he goes above and beyond to trash the guy , he has to
I know what u mean, that's why he's an idiot.
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yes u r right he had much gerater density while all his muscles except his back and calve were much smaller than nasser's!!.. u dont make any sense here..
You are evaluating based upon your own personal criteria, without regard for the method by which contests are actually judged. If you gave some thought to the actual judging process, you might better comprehend how Yates could be concluded to be the victor.
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joe weider's giant golden head between the pillars is a little creepy.
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it was even creepier between dorian's thighs.. :-X
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its so funny that no matter what bodybuilding forum i visit people always mock yates and talk about how crappy he looked
thats because most bb fans are intelligent...unlike the three dorian nuthuggers on this board who are blind to the obvious...
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it was even creepier between dorian's thighs.. :-X
I think he meant that with "pillars" haha we know joe preferred white meat whenever possible, albeit pasty.
I know almost every Russian top amateur or pro bodybuilder who writes on internet boards and 95% of them think Yates was the greatest Olympia ever.
Pasty euros can relate to the pastiness and boxy build, without doubt. You really think they aren't racists without admitting so, like ND lol
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Pasty euros can relate to the pastiness and boxy build, without doubt. You really think they aren't racists without admitting so, like ND lol
U are saying that they prefer Yates over other Mr.Olympias because they are racists ??? C'mon, now you're talking really ignorant. In Russia S.Ray, K.Levrone, R.Coleman, F.Wheeler have as much fans as Yates! Pumpster, YOU ARE WRONG about that racist bullshit!
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Just another day at the office for Yates, with another straight firsts victory. ;)
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he swallowed a lot at the office that day.. :-X
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good to see 2009 has brought more ownings of nd and all the confused keg fans
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good to see 2009 has brought more ownings of nd and all the confused keg fans
its just so damn easy!
you know nuthuggers, I have never been one to get in to the nasser dorian debate, but I do think one think is quite clear:
dorian has NEVER looked this good from the front.
never:
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Just another day at the office for Yates, with another straight firsts victory. ;)
Epic blind faith in IFBB brainwashing. Excellent continuation as ND's dog for 09 lol
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Just another day at the office for Yates, with another straight firsts victory.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296460;image)
it's sad when a midget has bigger arms than Mr. Olympia. :-\
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it's sad when a midget has bigger arms than Mr. Olympia. :-\
Or when a 12 year old girl has bigger calves than a certain 8 time Mr. Olympia. ;) By the way, that midget has bigger forearms than your 8 time champ. Now go away troll.
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thats because most bb fans are intelligent...unlike the three dorian nuthuggers on this board who are blind to the obvious...
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Yep just like most fans agree that Ronnie deserved 3 Mr O titles at the most. He looked like total ass in 01,04,05 and 06 and wasn't very impressive at all in 2000 and 2002.
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Or when a 12 year old girl has bigger calves than a certain 8 time Mr. Olympia. By the way, that midget has bigger forearms than your 8 time champ. Now go away troll.
so you're saying a 12 yr old girl has bigger calves than Jay Cutler? ???
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/RonnieJayCalves.jpg)
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so you're saying a 12 yr old girl has bigger calves than Jay Cutler? ???
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/RonnieJayCalves.jpg)
Did he win the Olympia 8 times? Reading is fundamental.
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Did he win the Olympia 8 times? Reading is fundamental.
then apparently you can't comprehend your own post b/c you used a pic of 03 Ronnie. ;)
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omg the dorian nuthuggers are not only blind to reality, but they are also slow in the head
this mr 1derful is doing the dorian crusaders no favors w/ his logic
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omg the dorian nuthuggers are not only blind to reality, but they are also slow in the head
this mr 1derful is doing the dorian crusaders no favors w/ his logic
exactly Gene, the pumpkinheads and drama llama's avoid the fact that Ronnie is clearly a better bodybuilder than Dorian.
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exactly Gene, the pumpkinheads and drama llama's avoid the fact that Ronnie is clearly a better bodybuilder than Dorian.
x2
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Couple rare 1997 pictures there ND thanks for posting.
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you used a pic of 03 Ronnie. ;)
Which would make sense, being that was to whom I was referring, when I made reference to an 8 time champ. To make no mention of the reference to nonexistent calves, which would undoubtedly point to Ronnie, where pics from any year could be utilized to make the same point. Perhaps I should provide captions for the intellectually impaired, such as yourself. Try keeping up.
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Which would make sense, being that was to whom I was referring, when I made reference to an 8 time champ. To make no mention of the reference to nonexistent calves, which would undoubtedly point to Ronnie, where pics from any year could be utilized to make the same point. Perhaps I should provide captions for the intellectually impaired, such as yourself. Try keeping up.
translation: "I'm going to use confusing wording to make it appear like I'm right and you're wrong."
the fact is you referenced Ronnie's Olympia wins, which means you were talking about him during his reign, and you posted a pic from 03 that supports this assertion.
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translation: "I'm going to use confusing wording to make it appear like I'm right and you're wrong."
the fact is you referenced Ronnie's Olympia wins, which means you were talking about him during his reign, and you posted a pic from 03 that supports this assertion.
My words are only confusing to you, as you have stated by your own admission. No shit, Sherlock! Most people would have had the astuteness to know full well I was referring to Ronnie, without it being spelled out for them. Was the photo your first clue, or was it the comment about little girl calves that solved it for you? You're like a dog chasing his own tail, without the discernment of knowing why you are doing so.
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My words are only confusing to you, as you have stated by your own admission. No shit, Sherlock! Most people would have had the astuteness to know full well I was referring to Ronnie, without it being spelled out for them. Was the photo your first clue, or was it the comment about little girl calves that solved it for you? You're like a dog chasing his own tail, without the discernment of knowing why you are doing so.
save your dramatics for another time-u screwed up and got called on it
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best back in the history of the sport!
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296460;image)
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Dorian
dominance, density and determination
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haha nice loose skin on yates lower back
haha his arms look puny compared to the others :D
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save your dramatics for another time-u screwed up and got called on it
Please advise us all on the screw up of making a reference to Ronnie, accompanied by a photo of Ronnie himself. For those of us not dyslexic like you, nor inbred like Neo.
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Please advise us all on the screw up of making a reference to Ronnie, accompanied by a photo of Ronnie himself. For those of us not dyslexic like you, nor inbred like Neo.
haha thats quite the literary masterpiece u wrote there
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haha thats quite the literary masterpiece u wrote there
Can't answer the question, eh sport? You just stepped in shit and you haven't got the boots for it. ;)
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Can't answer the question, eh sport? You just stepped in shit and you haven't got the boots for it. ;)
haha i dont need to! u owned yourself w/ the post in question u troll :D
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and one for my homies
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haha i dont need to! u owned yourself w/ the post in question u troll :D
Still can't? Perhaps you should think prior to speaking. Although I'm sure that goes against every instinct you have. If I am so very owned by my own words, do tell. Sound out the big ones if you must. You were just following around Neo. Not unlike the blind leading the blind.
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Still can't? Perhaps you should think prior to speaking. Although I'm sure that goes against every instinct you have. If I am so very owned by my own words, do tell. Sound out the big ones if you must.
hahahahahahhahha
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hahahahahahhahha
That's what I thought. I think my point has been proven. Game, set and match.
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stop being such a drama llama, "Mr. 1derful". ::)
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stop being such a drama llama, "Mr. 1derful". ::)
You know the rules, speak only when spoken to, troll.
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That's what I thought. I think my point has been proven. Game, set and match.
hahahahhahahhhha
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Yep just like most fans agree that Ronnie deserved 3 Mr O titles at the most.
LOL where are you getting this from? your ass? ::)
in case you didn't notice, most fans, industry insiders and fellow pro's think Ronnie is the greatest Mr. O of all time.
if you need all the quotes, Neo can post them for you...
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in case you didn't notice, most fans, industry insiders and fellow pro's think Ronnie is the greatest Mr. O of all time.
No they don't. Dorian beat Ronnie in the most recent BB.com poll.
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LOL where are you getting this from? your ass? ::)
in case you didn't notice, most fans, industry insiders and fellow pro's think Ronnie is the greatest Mr. O of all time.
if you need all the quotes, Neo can post them for you...
Maybe in your world. Go back and read the boards when Ronnie won in 04, 05 and 06. The boards lit up with people bitching about how politics made him win. 2000 he should of lost, 2001 Jay beat him, Kevin in 2002 etc regardless if people think he is the "greatest" all those years people disputed like crazy about him not deserving to win and you know it. He may by the freakiest of all time but not the greatest. I don't consider Dorian the greatest either. Haney is imo. He won 8 Mr O's and he did beat Yates. I bet fewer of his titles are disputed then either Yates or Ronnies. You know damn well that when ND posts quotes from fellow Pros and industry insiders you yell politics BUT when those quotes discuss Coleman all of a sudden they become relevant. If you think those years weren't disputed by real fans then you need to pull your head out of your ass!
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You know damn well that when ND posts quotes from fellow Pros and industry insiders you yell politics BUT when those quotes discuss Coleman all of a sudden they become relevant.
wrong.
90% of the time ND quotes Peter McGough who is a good friend of dorian..
::)
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No they don't. Dorian beat Ronnie in the most recent BB.com poll.
how many times did you and ND vote on that one?
2000 votes overnight like the last time dorian 'caught up' when he was trailing ronnie?
::)
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hahahahhahahhhha
Great rebuttal, Shakespeare. ::)
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wrong.
90% of the time ND quotes Peter McGough who is a good friend of dorian..
::)
But I'm sure you would have no problem accepting praise for Ronnie from Peter or the Weiders right? Cuz that would be deserving.
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But I'm sure you would have no problem accepting praise for Ronnie from Peter or the Weiders right? Cuz that would be deserving.
if you paid attention, you see that I hardly ever use quotes.
because opinons can be biased: see, Mcgough, Peter on his friend dorian.
I prefer to let the real life visuals do all the talking.
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wow ronnie looks great in that pic
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wow ronnie looks great in that pic
its from the 2001 AC. one of his best ever performances, if not the best ever.
my issue with that particular presentation is that his gut was way more pronounced than in 1998 or 1999...
ND can post all the gut shots he wants from the 99 contest, it was certainly there.
but not nearly as bad as the 2001 AC...
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LOL found this comparison in the truce thread hahahaha
what year is this from? 95 or 96 for dorian?
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if you paid attention, you see that I hardly ever use quotes.
because opinons can be biased: see, Mcgough, Peter on his friend dorian.
I prefer to let the real life visuals do all the talking.
They aren't real life visuals. They are pics from different times. Pics can tell what ever story you want them to tell. Bottom line here is all anyone is doing is stating an opinion. Thats all bodybuilding and judging really is. There are no facts, there is no proof its an opinion. Oh and thats the best Ronnie ever but his midsection really screws up that whole shot.
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Oh and thats the best Ronnie ever but his midsection really screws up that whole shot.
...sort of like any shot showing dorian's detailess and smooth arms and quads screws up any shot too...
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...sort of like any shot showing dorian's detailess and smooth arms and quads screws up any shot too...
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Hey I'm not a Yates fan. His arms are just plain bad. His quads I think are fine. They just have a very different shape to them. Alot of the pics of him it looks like he isn't really flexing them. Again I still think Haney is better than both despite being a bit smaller.
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1993 Mr. Olympia: The most dominant victory in IFBB history.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4103-11/1993-mr-olympia-96-dorian-yates.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=e07be580c6c58acca9afd10a494f6cf7)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4084-11/1993-mr-olympia-90-dorian-yates.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=e07be580c6c58acca9afd10a494f6cf7)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4077-10/1993-mr-olympia-88-dorian-yates.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=e07be580c6c58acca9afd10a494f6cf7)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/25192-4/1993-mr-olympia-new-22.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=e07be580c6c58acca9afd10a494f6cf7)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/3721-10/1993-mr-olympia-149-dorian-yates.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=10a34dfbd70b5c7d6f22a36ffd652502)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/4120-11/1993-mr-olympia-101-dorian-yates.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=10a34dfbd70b5c7d6f22a36ffd652502)
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Hey I'm not a Yates fan.
I don't blame you.
he was overrated as fuck..
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I don't blame you.
he was overrated as fuck..
Well in all fairness I'm not a Ronnie fan either. I think he was overrated as well. He was bad ass like 3 times.
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1993 Mr. Olympia: The most dominant victory in IFBB history.
wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.
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Hey I'm not a Yates fan. His arms are just plain bad. His quads I think are fine. They just have a very different shape to them. Alot of the pics of him it looks like he isn't really flexing them. Again I still think Haney is better than both despite being a bit smaller.
His biceps were average, his triceps and forearms were great!
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wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.
Actually the most dominant victory was when Sergio won the MrO uncontested. I mean how much more dominating can you get than to have every other competitor afraid to show up.
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wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.
I can't agree here doll. Ronnie's shape in that show was simply incredible, maybe his all-time best. But his competition wasn't just 2nd-class men. Chris Cormier looked good at that show. So did Dennis James.
Besides, when I think "most dominant" win, it would be the winner versus all of the "1st tier" competition. In that sense, I can see why Dorian's win in 1993 is worthy of a most dominant victory (though not necessarily THE most ... there have been a lot of IFBB shows!).
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Ronnie's 2003 win was more dominant than dorian's 93 win..
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Anyone think Dorian's Quads were pretty poor?
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Anyone think Dorian's Quads were pretty poor?
yup. most intelligent people do. blind nuthuggers think they are great LOL
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brutal rolls of fat/loose neck skin hahaha
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296632;image)
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wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.
1993 Mr. Olympia Contest Report:
At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was no Mr. Olympia contest. The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.
Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '
At no point in Ronnie's career did he ever display the kind of dominance as noted above for Yates' 1993 victory. Yates wasn't even called out during the muscularity round because he was so overpoweringly dominant. This never happened with Ronnie. The suggestion that Ronnie's 2001 ASC victory is more dominant, is totally absurd. He defeated lesser competition (like King Kamali, lol), who you have stated as being 2nd and 3rd tier, and he wasn't as dominant in doing so, as Yates was against much greater competitors. Epic fail, Neo.
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The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.
of course they didn't. they were told who to give the win to before the contest started... ::)
it still amazes me how judging so blatantly biased and partial could be allowed..
in any other 'sport' that would never be allowed to happen.
how do you score a contest round without comparing the competitors? ::)
but since the Weiders are the IFBB and that is essentially the sport, what they say goes..
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Yates wasn't even called out during the muscularity round because he was so overpoweringly dominant.
no, he wasn't called out because the contest winner was pre determined..
don't confuse the worst case of biased judging in history with dominance.
::)
its a BAD THING that something like that was allowed to happen.
it taints dorian's win.
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of course they didn't. they were told who to give the win to before the contest started... ::)
it still amazes me how judging so blatantly biased and partial could be allowed..
in any other 'sport' that would never be allowed to happen.
how do you score a contest round without comparing the competitors? ::)
but since the Weiders are the IFBB and that is essentially the sport, what they say goes..
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Crying politics = Fail! (Again)
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:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( Crying politics = Fail! (Again)
no u fail
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we have been through this before and you can't win.
there is nothing you can say that justifies what was allowed to happen.
it is the very definition of bias and partial judging.
it doesn't get any more clear cut than that.
the judges were prepared to award a score WITHOUT comparing dorian to the others.
that is clear cut and dry biased judging.
period.
care to justify how that was impartial and fair? LOL
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it doesn't get any more clear cut than that.
the judges were prepared to award a score WITHOUT comparing dorian to the others.
that is a clear cut victory, and dry biased judging.
period.
Indeed. Yates' superiority was so overwhelmingly evident, the judges felt they need not waste any time. Like the contest report stated, "there was no Mr. Olympia contest". Yates was that damn good! Obviously, the judges saw all that they needed to in the symmetry round. Keep in mind Huckster, that all rounds are physique rounds. This would likewise apply to the evening rounds. So, your insinuation that the judges made NO comparisons whatsoever as part of some sort of political favoritism to award the title to Yates, is way off base, as usual. Yates was just so much better, that it was readily apparent for all those in attendance to see. Besides, your repetitive crying about politics are made ever more feeble by the fact, that without question, Yates was far and away the best. Political nepotism would seem rather unwarranted when awarding the title to the rightful and deserving winner, don't you think? Thanks for playing. Please try again.
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Yates' superiority was so overwhelmingly evident, the judges felt they need not waste any time
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its not up to the judges to 'decide if they need to waste time or not'
its their job to evaluate and score the competitors based on these evaluations.
this was not done.
they didn't do their job properly
if I were dorian, I would be ashamed of having won a round without being compared to my fellow competitors
it screams of bias and partialness.
and your argument that the symmetry round is good enough to decide how competitors look in the mandatories is down right laughable and shows how little you guys know.
you are caught here - your hero had the judges award him a win based on nothing more than pre concieved notions and fantasies about how he might have looked in the muscularity round..
::)
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of course they didn't. they were told who to give the win to before the contest started... ::)
it still amazes me how judging so blatantly biased and partial could be allowed..
in any other 'sport' that would never be allowed to happen.
how do you score a contest round without comparing the competitors? ::)
but since the Weiders are the IFBB and that is essentially the sport, what they say goes..
Yep it is sad just like Ronnie being the predetermined winner in 00,01,02, I'm sure 03 but at least everyone else was off and Ronnie really wasn't, 04 and 05. I mean you really don't think the judging was spot on for Ronnie and it wasn't for Yates right? Even Arnold got gifts.
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no u fail
You're a regular Victor Hugo.
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Yep it is sad just like Ronnie being the predetermined winner in 00,01,02, I'm sure 03 but at least everyone else was off and Ronnie really wasn't, 04 and 05. I mean you really don't think the judging was spot on for Ronnie and it wasn't for Yates right? Even Arnold got gifts.
you overlook a crucial difference between the judging during ronnie's reign and dorian's:
when ronnie showed up out of shape, the judges scored him down, and actually had him lose to Gunter.
when dorian showed up out of shape (with a missing arm too) the judges looked the other way and scored him perfectly.. ::)
you tell me how the 11th place competitor (Milos) can own dorian in the front relaxed pose, yet no doubt dorian still got a perfect score in the symmetry round:
::)
here is your "perfect scores" getting crushed by Mr. 11th or 13th place LOL
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the judging was a least a lot more accurate in terms of scoring during ronnie's reign...
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^ look at the smirk on dorian's face.
he knows he looks like garbage, and its not like he is standing next to shawn or kevin, and he is STILL getting owned... but he's winning anyway...
:P
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^ look at the smirk on dorian's face.
he knows he looks like garbage, and its not like he is standing next to shawn or kevin, and he is STILL getting owned... but he's winning anyway...
:P
You're like a broken record, playing the same old tired tune. The posting equivalent of Rick Astley. ::)
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you overlook a crucial difference between the judging during ronnie's reign and dorian's:
when ronnie showed up out of shape, the judges scored him down, and actually had him lose to Gunter.
when dorian showed up out of shape (with a missing arm too) the judges looked the other way and scored him perfectly.. ::)
you tell me how the 11th place competitor (Milos) can own dorian in the front relaxed pose, yet no doubt dorian still got a perfect score in the symmetry round:
::)
here is your "perfect scores" getting crushed by Mr. 11th or 13th place LOL
::)
the judging was a least a lot more accurate in terms of scoring during ronnie's reign...
Please Ronnie looked like ass in 01, lost in prejudging yet won. I'm sure that wasn't politics. Ronnie was only marked down when he lost to gunther but he was never marked down at the O where he was not always in shape. Ronnie won several times with perfect scores when he shouldn't have. Dorian won with politics but believe me so did Ronnie. Stop making Ronnie out to be perfect when he was FAR from it as well.
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You're like a broken record, playing the same old tired tune. The posting equivalent of Rick Astley. ::)
sorry, but the tune plays true:
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sorry, but the tune plays true:
Flex looks better standing there than Ronnie.
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sorry, but the tune plays true:
Typical troll, using Yates pics from 1994.
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Typical troll, using Yates pics from 1994.
why not?
you nuthuggers claim he was 'harder than ronnie' all the time, better than everyone all the time.
its nice to see that you admit how wrong you guys are.
it just goes to show you that even you morons can admit when yates looked like shit...
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why not?
you nuthuggers claim he was 'harder than ronnie' all the time, better than everyone all the time.
its nice to see that you admit how wrong you guys are.
it just goes to show you that even you morons can admit when yates looked like shit...
OWNAGE, ha ha ha ;D
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yeah, as you well know, its pretty easy to own people defending THIS:
LOL
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why not?
you nuthuggers claim he was 'harder than ronnie' all the time, better than everyone all the time.
its nice to see that you admit how wrong you guys are.
it just goes to show you that even you morons can admit when yates looked like shit...
Not at all. I just thought I would shed light on your rampant hypocrisy. You cry foul at every turn when someone posts a less than flattering year of Ronnie (of which there are many), yet you routinely demonstrate a fear of comparing him to the best Yates has to offer. If you want to play that game, fire up some vintage 2002, 2006 or 2007 Coleman for us all to marvel at. You are owned by your fear of Yates.
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1993 Mr. Olympia Contest Report:
At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was no Mr. Olympia contest. The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.
Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '
At no point in Ronnie's career did he ever display the kind of dominance as noted above for Yates' 1993 victory. Yates wasn't even called out during the muscularity round because he was so overpoweringly dominant. This never happened with Ronnie. The suggestion that Ronnie's 2001 ASC victory is more dominant, is totally absurd. He defeated lesser competition (like King Kamali, lol), who you have stated as being 2nd and 3rd tier, and he wasn't as dominant in doing so, as Yates was against much greater competitors. Epic fail, Neo.
hahahahah hulkster PWNED....there's no coming back from this
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greatest back double bi EVER! Ronnie is missing half a back in comparison. Dorian is complete head to toe. Ronnie not even close
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296720;image)
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greatest back double bi EVER! Ronnie is missing half a back in comparison. Dorian is complete head to toe. Ronnie not even close
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=296720;image)
hahahaa, not even close to Ronnie, seriously man what are you smoking, great separation but nowhere near the size and thickness of Ronnie's back not to mention the little toothpick legs. ::)
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;) ;)
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;) ;)
exactly, no fuccking contest, shit Ronnie's back is twice as thick and you could put two of Dorian legs in one of Ronnies.
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;) ;)
Ronnies back is quite soft in that pic. Yates back looks better and is more complete. Ronnie just has better thickness.
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Ronnies back is quite soft in that pic. Yates back looks better and is more complete. Ronnie just has better thickness.
Very soft!
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haha this 1derful is still here screwing up things for the few battered yates fans left ;D
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haha this 1derful is still here screwing up things for the few battered yates fans left ;D
Well, if it isn't Victor Hugo with another masterpiece contribution. lol
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ronnie had back thickness dorian could only dream of..
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It is true that Dorian cannot touch Ronnie but he may touch this guy below .. ;D
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1. 6 time Mr. Olympia
2. 88% career winning percentage
3. Admired and respected by fellow competitors
4. Feared by message board trolls.
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1. 6 time Mr. Olympia
2. 88% career winning percentage
3. Admired and respected by fellow competitors
4. Feared by message board trolls.
Why do you people cling on to this statistic.
It really doesnt matter if you won the O or your first attempt or your 10th attempt.
Bodybuilding is about how far you go not how fast.
By the way, Ronnie went further than Dorian
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Why do you people cling on to this statistic.
they cling to this statistic because he looked like crap through most of his career (post tear was a longgggg time) and they need something to go on.
By the way, this is great! ;D
we need more shots of Kovacs to show how 'great' dorian was LOL :-\
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1. 6 time Mr. Olympia
2. 88% career winning percentage
3. Admired and respected by fellow competitors
4. Feared by message board trolls.
With particular emphasis on the last one. ;)
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With particular emphasis on the last one. ;)
wrong. saying this looked like crap is not trolling.
it is reality: :P
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With particular emphasis on the last one. ;)
epic quoting your own post, brutal desperation.
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ronnie had back thickness dorian could only dream of..
Yeah and Dorian had the density and dryness that Ronnie could only dream of. They both had their strengths and their weakness. To say Dorian looked like crap is just stupid. He won 6 Mr O's and thats the bottom line. Say whatever you want about how he won but very few of his opponents complained about him winning. Ronnie didn't deserve all his either.
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epic chicken legs compared to the Great Ronnie. :D
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With particular emphasis on the last one. ;)
I find this hard to believe considering you are yourself, a troll
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Damn people! Get a girlfriend already! :) Dorian..Ronnie..they were both great!!
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I find this hard to believe considering you are yourself, a troll
Whatever you say, Copernicus.
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Whatever you say, Copernicus.
Bad comeback.
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Yeah and Dorian had the density and dryness that Ronnie could only dream of
::)
keeping telling yourself that.
it still doesn't make it true:
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wow ronnie looks amazing in those shots...its like his skin is shrink wrapped to his muscles
and yates looks...well...crappy to say the least :-\
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keeping telling yourself that.
it still doesn't make it true:
Funny how I was talking about their backs and you show Ronnie from the front.
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Funny how I was talking about their backs and you show Ronnie from the front.
dorian's back was more detailed than Ronnie's.
but it was also much thinner and lacking ronnie's thickness.
it looked like Flex Wheeler's back in the back double bi pose:
all detail, little thickness.
on the other hand, Ronnie had it all: detail, thickness, good arms, everything:
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look at that. dorian's back double bi pose is like shawn's - very detailed, but thin looking.
ronnie's back - wow. it has it all.
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look at that. dorian's back double bi pose is like shawn's - very detailed, but thin looking.
ronnie's back - wow. it has it all.
I agreed that Ronnie had better thickness but Dorian beats him in detail and the fact that his back is far drier.
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I agreed that Ronnie had better thickness but Dorian beats him in detail and the fact that his back is far drier.
true, but ronnie's superior thickness, superior taper, two good arms etc. make his back double bi much more impressive overall.
fact is, dorian's back and abs were tight and dry, the rest of him, well, that didn't fair to well.. 8)
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Ronnie never had greater thickness. Dorian's back in the OFFSEASON of 1995 was thicker and drier than anything Coleman ever presented on stage. Dorian was probably the only guy to ever have striations in his freakin back!
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Ronnie never had greater thickness
LOL
why do you nuthuggers type such bullshit that is totally wrong and everyone but you idiots knows it?
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as always, dorian's back is paper thin in comparison.
always was. always will be.
sorry nuthuggers.
your man's back was glorified version of shawn ray's LOL
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LOL
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I think we had better compare Ronnie to Kevin and stop mention the name of the most overrated bodybuilder ever :'(
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as always, dorian's back is paper thin in comparison.
always was. always will be.
sorry nuthuggers.
your man's back was glorified version of shawn ray's LOL
What I don't understand is how the dorian fans can't give ronnie credit for anything.
I admit dorian came in conditioned as hell, and had an amazingly detailed back.
but ronnie is clearly thicker...to argue that just points out pure delusion and makes any other argument you might make seem asinine.
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I think we had better compare Ronnie to Kevin and stop mention the name of the most overrated bodybuilder ever :'(
why do u show a pic 4 them from 2 diff. contests.. here r bth of them beside each other in reality @ 3 diff. shows :)
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Any version of Kevin beats all the versions of Dorian, the pic I posted is Dorian at his heaviest VS Kevin at his average weight ;)
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these threads blow....they truly suck
you only have a few people who make objectional viewpoints.....good solid opinions
then you have fuck turds like hulkster making comparisons with ronnie at his photogenic best and dorian at his photogenic worst.....whats the point of that....a retard child he is
same old dribble
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Any version of Kevin beats all the versions of Dorian, the pic I posted is Dorian at his heaviest VS Kevin at his average weight ;)
Listen to yourself for a second.....Dorian beat Kevin every time they competed. Dorian crushed Kevin; even Kevin admitted that on here. Wake up. The 95 prejudging video is on Google for you to view and there's no comparison. Dorian was amazing.
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Listen to yourself for a second.....Dorian beat Kevin every time they competed. Dorian crushed Kevin; even Kevin admitted that on here. Wake up. The 95 prejudging video is on Google for you to view and there's no comparison. Dorian was amazing.
Yeah you are right there is no compression between them since Dorian has only one bicep in the video you mentioned :-\
Dorian “the one bicep man” Yates should have never win an Olympia title even pre injury when Kevin dominated him in 92 and Flex in 93 :-\
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Yeah you are right there is no compression between them since Dorian has only one bicep in the video you mentioned :-\
Dorian “the one bicep man” Yates should have never win an Olympia title even pre injury when Kevin dominated him in 92 and Flex in 93 :-\
The video is conclusive; with Dorian standing there it's like Kevin or Shawn weren't even there. Dorian was THAT good.
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The video is conclusive; with Dorian standing there it's like Kevin or Shawn weren't even there. Dorian was THAT good.
but whn nasser took shawn's place it ws a diff. story.. the audience went crazy coz nasser made dorian look tiny..
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The video is conclusive; with Dorian standing there it's like Kevin or Shawn weren't even there. Dorian was THAT good.
Com’on man :-\
Don’t try to convince me that a bodybuilder with only one bicep look better than any other complete bodybuilder :-\
I am sick of the overrating that Dorian has by his fans :-\
Dorian = All Politics :-X
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LOL
Why is it that you post a far better quality pic of Ronnie then a poor quality pic of Dorian? That's why you can't compare photos. Like I said both had their strengths and weaknesses. If you ask Ronnie he'll say Dorian is better. Ask Dorian he just may say Ronnie was. No one knows for sure and there are no such things as facts in bodybuilding especially in dealing with pics.
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Com’on man :-\
Don’t try to convince me that a bodybuilder with only one bicep look better than any other complete bodybuilder :-\
I am sick of the overrating that Dorian has by his fans :-\
Dorian = All Politics :-X
While you're pulling out the telestrator, how about highlighting Kev's pec tear in a pic. Yes, Yates' bicep tear is a flaw, clearly visible in one mandatory, being the front double biceps shot. However, it is an irony that fans of other competitors tend to gloss over similar flaws when touting the wares of their favorites. The reason for Yates' tear not playing a more prominent role in determining his fate as champion, was due to his many advantages in other areas compared to his competition. For antagonists of Yates, the bicep tear seems to act as a magnet to which they are constantly drawn, much to the ignorance of his overall superiority.
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/23180-4/1995-mr-olympia-20.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=620ae2d4c9a11ec58b5eae8669821656)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/23553-4/1995-mr-olympia-21.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=620ae2d4c9a11ec58b5eae8669821656)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/23822-4/1995-mr-olympia-102.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=620ae2d4c9a11ec58b5eae8669821656)
(http://www.muscletime.com/gallery/d/24204-3/1995-mr-olympia-111.jpg?g2_GALLERYSID=620ae2d4c9a11ec58b5eae8669821656)
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Any version of Kevin beats all the versions of Dorian, the pic I posted is Dorian at his heaviest VS Kevin at his average weight ;)
If Kevin was as dry as Dorian on stage then he would have to compete in under 202 division.
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For antagonists of Yates, the bicep tear seems to act as a magnet to which they are constantly drawn, much to the ignorance of his overall superiority.
yeah, look at his "superiority" LOL
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While you're pulling out the telestrator, how about highlighting Kev's pec tear in a pic. Yes, Yates' bicep tear is a flaw, clearly visible in one mandatory, being the front double biceps shot. However, it is an irony that fans of other competitors tend to gloss over similar flaws when touting the wares of their favorites. The reason for Yates' tear not playing a more prominent role in determining his fate as champion, was due to his many advantages in other areas compared to his competition. For antagonists of Yates, the bicep tear seems to act as a magnet to which they are constantly drawn, much to the ignorance of his overall superiority.
He doesn’t have a pec tear, he was just flexing one of them.
Look at that picture it tells you every thing
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If Kevin was as dry as Dorian on stage then he would have to compete in under 202 division.
Kevin’s condition in 92 beats all the conditions that Yates has displayed .
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Why is it that you post a far better quality pic of Ronnie then a poor quality pic of Dorian?
why is it that the nuthuggers have an endless string of excuses to chose from? LOL
hey MuffD, here is a video for you to enjoy:
http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027
everyone take note:
dorian NEVER looked this good. EVER.
:P
all it takes is the first most muscular that ronnie hits to see that he was on a totally different level than dorian ever was.
the detail, the size, the shape, - ronnie in top form was incredible.
and history's greatest back too. unreal. that rear lat spread looks like a cobra - with striations in the lower back to boot.
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oh, and Ronnie 99 smokes both of them: ;D
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oh, and Ronnie 99 smokes both of them: ;D
Hulkster you are my friend and I am supporting you to defend and raise Ronnie’s name above Dorian … ;D
But please don’t say the anybody can beat that .. ;D
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this is my favorite pic of Kevin Levrone :P :D
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this is my favorite pic of Kevin Levrone :P :D
and the is my favorite one of Roonie :P
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thats a 2006 ronnie.
who's owning who now? 8)
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Com’on man :-\
Don’t try to convince me that a bodybuilder with only one bicep look better than any other complete bodybuilder :-\
I am sick of the overrating that Dorian has by his fans :-\
Dorian = All Politics :-X
all you are pointing out is a shorter bicep, nothing wrong with that.
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all you are pointing out is a shorter bicep, nothing wrong with that.
you mean missing:
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thats a 2006 ronnie.
who's owning who now? 8)
Still Levrone
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LOL nice tight stuffing kevin.
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battle of the keg waistlines! :-X 8)
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I love how the Arnold Classic trophy is like 10x the size of the Mr. O trophy
hahahaha
something wrong with this picture..
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LOL nice tight stuffing kevin.
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Guess Kev has Ronnie beat there too lol
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LOL nice tight stuffing kevin.
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I guess we know where your eyes go first.
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battle of the keg waistlines! :-X 8)
cutler looked awful that year
wan, depleted, assymetry very noticeble
Atrocious judging to award him 1st over cormier
Kevin looks far better than ronnie in any side tricep shot. He owns everyone in it
Ronnie takes it ultimately though
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I love how the Arnold Classic trophy is like 10x the size of the Mr. O trophy
hahahaha
something wrong with this picture..
its called arnolds huge ego.
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thats a 2006 ronnie.
who's owning who now? 8)
actually it is 2005 :P
by the way kevin still beat him there :P
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Damn Ronnie looks like feces here. Cutler was robbed in 05.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=254278.0;attach=297446;image)
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If Mr. Olympia titles were given fairly it will be as follows:
2008 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Phil Heath
2007 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Victor Martinez
2006 Mr. Olympia title was fairly for Jay cutler
2005 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Jay cutler
2004 Mr. Olympia title was fairly for Ronnie Coleman (since they were all off)
2003 Mr. Olympia title fairly for Ronnie Coleman
2002 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
2001 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Jay cutler
2000 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1999 Mr. Olympia title fairly for Ronnie Coleman
1998 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1997 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1996 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Shawn Ray
1995 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1994 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1993 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Flex Wheeler
1992 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
** Kevin Levrone 7 times Mr. Olympia
** Ronnie Colman and Jay Cutler 3 times Mr. Olympia
** Phil Heath , Victor Martinez, Flex Wheeler & Shawn Ray 1 Time Mr. Olympia
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If Mr. Olympia titles were given fairly it will be as follows:
2008 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Phil Heath
2007 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Victor Martinez
2006 Mr. Olympia title was fairly for Jay cutler
2005 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Jay cutler
2004 Mr. Olympia title was fairly for Ronnie Coleman (since they were all off)
2003 Mr. Olympia title fairly for Ronnie Coleman
2002 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
2001 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Jay cutler
2000 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1999 Mr. Olympia title fairly for Ronnie Coleman
1998 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1997 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1996 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Shawn Ray
1995 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1994 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
1993 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Flex Wheeler
1992 Mr. Olympia title should have gone to Kevin Levrone
** Kevin Levrone 7 times Mr. Olympia
** Ronnie Colman and Jay Cutler 3 times Mr. Olympia
** Phil Heath , Victor Martinez, Flex Wheeler & Shawn Ray 1 Time Mr. Olympia [/color]
kevin fan are we?
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Yes I am 8)