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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/obama-minimum-wage_n_4677355.html
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In before Coach;
'The left, the left, the left, the left, the left, the left'
*and when he's cornered*
'You just don't get it do you?' (usually he's not getting it at all)
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I wonder if im going to get a 2.00/hr raise to compensate for the increase in prices thanks to raising the federal minimum raise?
Of course not, because that wouldn't bring down those that make more towards the level of rhe poor.....
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Watch and learn. F Obama
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This is only for federal contractors. Not the national min. wage.
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Of course not, because that wouldn't bring down those that make more towards the level of rhe poor.....
That's the goal, and they want your guns so you can't defend yourself when all middle-class neighborhoods have been overrun by Obama's constituents.
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In before Coach;
'The left, the left, the left, the left, the left, the left'
*and when he's cornered*
'You just don't get it do you?' (usually he's not getting it at all)
Next to you, Obama and the political left (and anyone who supports this) have to be the dumbest people on the planet.
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This is only for federal contractors. Not the national min. wage.
even worse.
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That's it. I'm kicking more homeless people from now on.
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wow, so govt workers minimum wage is 9usd per hour now?
haha, america land of the dream
oh brother
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wow, so govt workers minimum wage is 9usd per hour now?
haha, america land of the dream
oh brother
COMMIE
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Min wage is $10.45/hr here.
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That's it. I'm kicking more homeless people from now on.
pffft... everytime a homeless asks me for change, I douse him in gas and toss a lit zippo on him whilst muttering 'yippie kye yay, motherf*cker'
time to up your game.
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oh wait, dont worry, the minimum wage makes it almost impossible to make ends meet?
just get another job on top of the first, be mobile haha
or better, invest in stock market, buy when low, sell when high, yeah right this shananigan works for everyone.
1% population is prison
healthcare a luxury
30million+ enjoying foodstamp barbecues
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oh wait, dont worry, the minimum wage makes it almost impossible to make ends meet?
just get another job on top of the first, be mobile haha
or better, invest in stock market, buy when low, sell when high, yeah right this shananigan works for everyone.
1% population is prison
healthcare a luxury
30million+ enjoying foodstamp barbecues
damn right. Most fair country on earth. You get out of life what you put on, we dont have no lazy ass motherfuckers shit. Thats true fairness and equality. Get whayever youre willing to fight and die for (or kill, or fucm over, or work hard, etc etc) ;D
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damn right. Most fair country on earth. You get out of life what you put on, we dont have no lazy ass motherfuckers shit. Thats true fairness and equality. Get whayever youre willing to fight and die for (or kill, or fucm over, or work hard, etc etc) ;D
you realize that theres plenty of nations in europe blowing the median quality of life right away compared to the usa?
while being just as ca[italist frendly if not more than the us.and while having a very strong social system.
what does this tell us? :D
just bc theres a social system in place doesnt mean the population is du,mb enough to take advantage of that.its not the way usa ppl think it is.
but i admire the americans positivity, serious
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oh wait, dont worry, the minimum wage makes it almost impossible to make ends meet?
just get another job on top of the first, be mobile haha
or better, invest in stock market, buy when low, sell when high, yeah right this shananigan works for everyone.
1% population is prison
healthcare a luxury
30million+ enjoying foodstamp barbecues
Get another job or a better paying job? Are you nuts? When you can stay in the same shitty job and just complain?
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Next to you, Obama and the political left (and anyone who supports this) have to be the dumbest people on the planet.
Obama is about 5x smarter than you are and would make you look like an utter fool in any debate. No offense Joe.
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you realize that theres plenty of nations in europe blowing the median quality of life right away compared to the usa?
Plenty? Pretty much the whole western world has it better. Switzerland, Canada Scandinavia, Germany etc etc has MUCH higher quality of life. But they are fucking commies!
but i admire the americans positivity, serious
Even Tbombz is positive about the situation.
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Plenty? Pretty much the whole western world has it better. Switzerland, Canada Scandinavia, Germany etc etc has MUCH higher quality of life. But they are fucking commies!
Even Tbombz is positive about the situation.
So we should deport all brown people?
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Get another job or a better paying job? Are you nuts? When you can stay in the same shitty job and just complain?
er better, get aditional education ,some school that will rip you out of money and then they gonna say you got no experience :D
look,man, spare me the "just get a better paying job"as if they fall out of the blue sky,lol, but i agree with you complaining wont go anywhere, depending on govt is bad bad thing, here one can start as stock broker any time, no wage only "dividends", but the opurtunity is here.
the system as it is is ok, maybe the best times throughout history.all factors considered
Plenty? Pretty much the whole western world has it better. Switzerland, Canada Scandinavia, Germany etc etc has MUCH higher quality of life. But they are fucking commies!
Even Tbombz is positive about the situation.
nah germany is about on par with usa, its overrated overall, but yeah theres many who do better(currently at least)
wouldnt call them communist, you disqualify yourself from serious debate by using such terms, nothing could be further from the truth
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1% population is prison
healthcare a luxury Only 15% of Americans don't buy health insurance, lots of them by choice
30million+ enjoying foodstamp barbecues 10% of the US population, equivalent to Canada and Europe.
You have a very Michael Mooreish view of the US. Healthcare isn't a luxury, the real issue is people here don't want/need the government meddling in their private arrangements (Obama won't stand for that though).
(http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hdi-top10-600x435.png)
(http://www.motherjones.com/files/this.png)
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wouldnt call them communist, you disqualify yourself from serious debate by using such terms, nothing could be further from the truth
I suppose they dont have irony in Switzerland?
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Astonishing Numbers: America's Poor Still Live Better Than Most Of The Rest Of Humanity
(http://b-i.forbesimg.com/timworstall/files/2013/06/inequality.png)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonishing-numbers-americas-poor-still-live-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/
However, look at it a little more closely in relation to other countries. We’re often told that to be poor in the US is much worse than being poor in the social democracies of Europe. And the bottom 10% in the US are indeed worse off than the bottom 10% in Sweden. But they’re better off than the bottom 10% in Germany or France: places where we are told that there is indeed that social democracy.
Maybe there’s something for this capitalism red in tooth and claw then: given that it does seem to improve the lives of the poor.
Take another look as well: we know that Russia is where bloated plutocrats loot everything from the country: and yet the bottom 10% in the US have, by this measure at least, better lives than the top 10% in Russia. And the top 10% in Portugal (where I live) and Mexico.
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The United States won't ever have a government mandated, mediocre distribution of wealth (like Europe), that's not our thing.
(http://www.motherjones.com/files/millionaires%20by%20country%20of%20residence.png)
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hell no not talking about economy, germany has strong economy too, but ask the german ppl how they are lol
and dont trust an amercian research on america lol.
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I wonder if im going to get a 2.00/hr raise to compensate for the increase in prices thanks to raising the federal minimum raise?
Of course not, because that wouldn't bring down those that make more towards the level of rhe poor.....
Shouldn't it be a "percentage"?
That's what I'm going to press for at my next performance eval or interview.
if Fed minimum is from let's say 8 - 10 bucks.
That's 25% increase...
I like at 25% pay increase... Fuck yeah!
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You have a very Michael Mooreish view of the US. Healthcare isn't a luxury, the real issue is people here don't want/need the government meddling in their private arrangements (Obama won't stand for that though).
(http://www.economicshelp.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/hdi-top10-600x435.png)
(http://www.motherjones.com/files/this.png)
Haha Africa and Eastern Europe ;D
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The United States won't ever have a government mandated, mediocre distribution of wealth (like Europe), that's not our thing.
(http://www.motherjones.com/files/millionaires%20by%20country%20of%20residence.png)
We have distribution of wealth to the rich and corporations.
http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
You got to be consistent.
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Haha Africa and Eastern Europe ;D
lol
Compared to the rest of the world, the US is overall inline with Europe in almost every category. That's a huge accomplishment on our part considering our huge population, our small government and low taxes (in comparison), demographics, and history.
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democrats spend, but others pay
very bad arrangement
how about we reduce got debt to 0 by lowering taxes 80% and lowering spending 90%
end all pensions
end fed
end public school
end all gov expenditures not related to courts and defense
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We have distribution of wealth to the rich and corporations.
http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
You got to be consistent.
Astonishing Numbers: America's Poor Still Live Better Than Most Of The Rest Of Humanity
(http://b-i.forbesimg.com/timworstall/files/2013/06/inequality.png)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/06/01/astonishing-numbers-americas-poor-still-live-better-than-most-of-the-rest-of-humanity/
However, look at it a little more closely in relation to other countries. We’re often told that to be poor in the US is much worse than being poor in the social democracies of Europe. And the bottom 10% in the US are indeed worse off than the bottom 10% in Sweden. But they’re better off than the bottom 10% in Germany or France: places where we are told that there is indeed that social democracy.
Maybe there’s something for this capitalism red in tooth and claw then: given that it does seem to improve the lives of the poor.
Take another look as well: we know that Russia is where bloated plutocrats loot everything from the country: and yet the bottom 10% in the US have, by this measure at least, better lives than the top 10% in Russia. And the top 10% in Portugal (where I live) and Mexico.
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What if W had lowered the minimum wage saying that minimum wage laws hurt employment by EO? ;)
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In before Coach;
'The left, the left, the left, the left, the left, the left'
*and when he's cornered*
'You just don't get it do you?' (usually he's not getting it at all)
right because there are absolutely ZERO negative consequences to raising the minimum wage. right?
are you even the least bit concerned for the safety of people's jobs due to the increase?
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and dont trust an amercian research on america lol.
The Economist is an English-language weekly news and international affairs publication owned by The Economist Newspaper Ltd. and edited in offices in London.[2][3]
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Watch and learn. F Obama
This guy is a moron dude.
Places with high minimum wages have a pretty low unemployed rate because of a thing called economics. What this shmuck doesn't understand is that increasing the wage increases spending and investing potential. Henry ford was famous for arguing for high minimum wages, in order to be consumers of his product.
Also, his analogy is ripe with fallacies, increasing the wage may mean lay-offs but he is presuming that less man power is an option, that firing people is an option, the money will generally come off the profit or out of the consumers pocket, usually the latter.
More money in more peoples hands with abilities to invest, spend and create should be the goal of all countries.
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This guy is a moron dude.
Places with high minimum wages have a pretty low unemployed rate because of a thing called economics. What this shmuck doesn't understand is that increasing the wage increases spending and investing potential. Henry ford was famous for arguing for high minimum wages, in order to be consumers of his product.
Also, his analogy is ripe with fallacies, increasing the wage may mean lay-offs but he is presuming that less man power is an option, that firing people is an option, the money will generally come off the profit or out of the consumers pocket, usually the latter.
More money in more peoples hands with abilities to invest, spend and create should be the goal of all countries.
that may well be the silliest post on this entire board. you know nothing about the most basic fundamental concepts of macroeconomics. in short.....JUST ..........FUCKING......S TOP.
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This guy is a moron dude.
Places with high minimum wages have a pretty low unemployed rate because of a thing called economics. What this shmuck doesn't understand is that increasing the wage increases spending and investing potential. Henry ford was famous for arguing for high minimum wages, in order to be consumers of his product.
Also, his analogy is ripe with fallacies, increasing the wage may mean lay-offs but he is presuming that less man power is an option, that firing people is an option, the money will generally come off the profit or out of the consumers pocket, usually the latter.
More money in more peoples hands with abilities to invest, spend and create should be the goal of all countries.
you said it yourself... wtf is increasing peoplea wages if its just going to go back out because the products now costs more?
Except now the guys that DIDNT see a wage increase have decreased buying power.
by your own logic, the poor gained effectively nothing and everyone else loses money.
Brutal logic.
Derrrpppp
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This guy is a moron dude.
Places with high minimum wages have a pretty low unemployed rate because of a thing called economics. What this shmuck doesn't understand is that increasing the wage increases spending and investing potential. Henry ford was famous for arguing for high minimum wages, in order to be consumers of his product.
Also, his analogy is ripe with fallacies, increasing the wage may mean lay-offs but he is presuming that less man power is an option, that firing people is an option, the money will generally come off the profit or out of the consumers pocket, usually the latter.
More money in more peoples hands with abilities to invest, spend and create should be the goal of all countries.
We have a high minimum wage, very low unemployment and a very low cost of living.
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The greatest scam ever has been the ultra rich and politically influential convincing the middle class of American that the poor are the burden on the economy whilst they set up blind trusts and avoid taxes like crazy.
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We have a high minimum wage, very low unemployment and a very low cost of living.
Canada, right? Little bit different population demographics
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The greatest scam ever has been the ultra rich and politically influential convincing the middle class of American that the poor are the burden on the economy whilst they set up blind trusts and avoid taxes like crazy.
Yep, I'm so sick of those evil rich bastards employing all of us and paying the vast majority of taxes. They owe us way more.
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Raising the minimum wage will either make a business charge more or they will make due with less employees. The excitement over this on this thread shows a lot of kids living at home working minimum wage jobs thinking this is a great idea. Why don't we just make McDonald's pay everyone $20 and hour? They can afford it. Just don"t be mad when you order a number #4 combo meal and it costs $15 bucks. Liberal thinking is ruining Europe and the US.
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The excitement over this on this thread shows a lot of kids living at home working minimum wage jobs thinking this is a great idea. Why don't we just make McDonald's pay everyone $20 and hour? They can
Exactly, lol
If people are not earning enough, there are a few underlying problems that need to be dealt with. A "quick fix" like government mandated minimum wage won't do a thing (except fool minimum wage employees).
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Yep, I'm so sick of those evil rich bastards employing all of us and paying the vast majority of taxes. They owe us way more.
I just dont understand entitlement. .... the idea that someone 'owes' me something for nothing makes literally zero sense to me.
I cant understand people who feel that those that are better off for whateber reason, owe them shit just because they were born and 'they can afford it dammit'.
Would anyone here give someone their car just because they can afford it? Of course not. Or would you let a hobo sleep on your couch and ear your foof? After all, youre better off and you can afford it, so ypu owe them shit just because they have less.
how the fuck do people think that makes any fucking sense?
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I just dont understand entitlement. .... the idea that someone 'owes' me something for nothing makes literally zero sense to me.
I cant understand people who feel that those that are better off for whateber reason, owe them shit just because they were born and 'they can afford it dammit'.
Would anyone here give someone their car just because they can afford it? Of course not. Or would you let a hobo sleep on your couch and ear your foof? After all, youre better off and you can afford it, so ypu owe them shit just because they have less.
how the fuck do people think that makes any fucking sense?
Hell no!
I never let hobos ear my foof!
I might buy a broke guy a taco though.
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ROFL
I seriously have no clue what ear my foof means? ;D
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That's the goal, and they want your guns so you can't defend yourself when all middle-class neighborhoods have been overrun by Obama's constituents.
Many who are from the middle class...
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Why not make it $20 an hour?
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Many who are from the middle class...
good point, but it ruins the mental image I'm trying to create... ;D
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Hell no!
I never let hobos ear my foof!
I might buy a broke guy a taco though.
Damn you cell phones! Ruination of grammar commencinf
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ROFL
I seriously have no clue what ear my foof means? ;D
eat your food.
damn cellnphones.
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eat your food.
damn cellnphones.
rofl... oh
I thought ear my foof was some dirty expression I never heard.. lol
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Minimum hourly wages in Australia for level 1 employees (the lowest)
Car park attendant $17.25
Fast food employee $17.98
Food and beverage $16.37
Gardener $16.85
Waste management $17.43
Current unemployment rate 5.8%
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Minimum hourly wages in Australia for level 1 employees (the lowest)
Car park attendant $17.25
Fast food employee $17.98
Food and beverage $16.37
Gardener $16.85
Waste management $17.43
Current unemployment rate 5.8%
http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States
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All humans temporarily sterilised at birth, apply for means tested reproduction licenses, if you don't work or cant afford to have children the procedure isn't reversed.
At retirement age of 65, unless self funded you are terminated.
Tax rates are very low to assist you to save for longer life and your own health care.
Welfare dependants breeding and ageing populations biggest issues confronting our way of life. Not a very popular theory but over population is a huge issue, especially when theres an ever increasing number who don't contribute positively at all.
I would only donate money to Africa if a charity was willing to feed people and sterilise them at the same time.
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we got no foodstamps here, no such thing.
also, mini loans as popular in the usa as in pakistan,lol.
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democrats spend, but others pay
very bad arrangement
how about we reduce got debt to 0 by lowering taxes 80% and lowering spending 90%
end all pensions
end fed
end public school
end all gov expenditures not related to courts and defense
are you saying the democrats outspend the gop?
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It's so awesome that Obama can just do things on his own without having to worry about that pesky legislative branch of government.
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This is only for federal contractors. Not the national min. wage.
I didn't realize there were Federal employees making minimum wage.
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I wonder if im going to get a 2.00/hr raise to compensate for the increase in prices thanks to raising the federal minimum raise?
Of course not, because that wouldn't bring down those that make more towards the level of rhe poor.....
99% of the cheap stuff that would hve been made with labor here in USA is made in China...
So where will the price increases come from?
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http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States
this is easy, a higher wage still allows you to put money aside if you dont have those unnecesary luxuries.
It's so awesome that Obama can just do things on his own without having to worry about that pesky legislative branch of government.
what exactly you mean?
the jsoc troops?
ah i see that doesnt concern anyone.
you mean the health care thing,right?
didnt the courts, and senate and congress have their say on this?
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this is easy, a higher wage still allows you to put money aside if you dont have those unnecesary luxuries.
what exactly you mean?
the jsoc troops?
ah i see that doesnt concern anyone.
you mean the health care thing,right?
didnt the courts, and senate and congress have their say on this?
What exactly I mean is that this dude is in love with taking executive action.
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What exactly I mean is that this dude is in love with taking executive action.
name some examples.
hes the elected potus lol, ofc he cares about an agenda.
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name some examples.
hes the elected potus lol, ofc he cares about an agenda.
If you follow politics the last 5 years there are numerous examples. To be frank I just don't feel like posting them all. Look up gun control for one example. There is a laundry list of those alone.
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The reason for higher wages is all that money on the top is not going anywhere at the moment, it just sits there. Make wages higher and that money is able to flow through the economy and it just goes back to the rich anyways.
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This guy is a moron dude.
Places with high minimum wages have a pretty low unemployed rate because of a thing called economics. What this shmuck doesn't understand is that increasing the wage increases spending and investing potential. Henry ford was famous for arguing for high minimum wages, in order to be consumers of his product.
Also, his analogy is ripe with fallacies, increasing the wage may mean lay-offs but he is presuming that less man power is an option, that firing people is an option, the money will generally come off the profit or out of the consumers pocket, usually the latter.
More money in more peoples hands with abilities to invest, spend and create should be the goal of all countries.
yes exactly, this guy in the video is dumb.
The minimum wage in Ontario was 7 + dollars and it jumped to 10 bucks in one shot and it worked out for everyone and nothing bad happened at all. This argument was present here to but nothing came about it.
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http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Australia&country2=United+States
ok so price of living is 30% higher, so what? The wages in Australia are 130% higher, damn well worth the trade, wouldn't you say?
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There is no way to out smart economic reality. Business owners are smart and when they are forced to pay more, they pass it on to the consumer. They aren't just going to eat it.
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ok so price of living is 30% higher, so what? The wages in Australia are 130% higher, damn well worth the trade, wouldn't you say?
Exactly , Bacon is a retard .
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ok so price of living is 30% higher, so what? The wages in Australia are 130% higher, damn well worth the trade, wouldn't you say?
yah,its as simple as this:
how much can you put aside end of month?
thats it.
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I didn't realize there were Federal employees making minimum wage.
Who are they? lol
My uncle is a Federal employee and he makes about twice what he deserves.
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ok so price of living is 30% higher, so what? The wages in Australia are 130% higher, damn well worth the trade, wouldn't you say?
What's the Australian median income versus the United States?
I doubt wages are 130% higher.
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ok so price of living is 30% higher, so what? The wages in Australia are 130% higher, damn well worth the trade, wouldn't you say?
Median income is higher in the US. US standards of living for the median and average are significantly higher than australia.
If you raise minimum wages and product costs all increase, all you've done is devalue your currency. The entire idea of a minimum wage is moronic and illogical. Even the US Treasury recognized and stated this fact when the US min wage was first introduced, yet somehow a vocal group of populists has succeeded in eradicating common sense among the populace.
yah,its as simple as this:
how much can you put aside end of month?
thats it.
yah exactly ::) which would mean the average Australian has a MUCH harder time doing this.
Who are they? lol
My uncle is a Federal employee and he makes about twice what he deserves.
It will only affect the Federal janitors and food services folks.
It's a distraction. The entire income inequality discussion is a distraction. Distract from the fact that the 1st world all have shit economies and poor growth. The american lefts' policies have all failed to create growth and grow the pie. So they must distract and talk about redistributing the stagnant pie.
It's the same populist bullshit thats been spewed verbatim since Ancient Rome. Quite literally. Diocletian did all of this once before and failed miserably.
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Median income is higher in the US. US standards of living for the median and average are significantly higher than australia.
If you raise minimum wages and product costs all increase, all you've done is devalue your currency. The entire idea of a minimum wage is moronic and illogical. Even the US Treasury recognized and stated this fact when the US min wage was first introduced, yet somehow a vocal group of populists has succeeded in eradicating common sense among the populace.
this is BS, the jump we took on minimum wage was from 7 to 10 dollars in a single shot and guess what? bigmac combos are still 8 bucks before and now 4 years later and guess what? rent is the same and guess what? a loaf of bread is still 2 bucks and milk is the same, smokes are the same, beer is the same, gym memberships are the same, nothing has changed in 4 years since this oocured
Oh BTW vehicles have taken a huge drop in prices, so due to all this a minimum wage worker where I am from can now drive a nice SUV
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What's the Australian median income versus the United States?
I doubt wages are 130% higher.
well in the post you responded to there were jobs that were being paid at 16 dollars versus the US's minimum wage, which is indeed 130%
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well in the post you responded to there were jobs that were being paid at 16 dollars versus the US's minimum wage, which is indeed 130%
Yes and everyone else is poorer because of it. Hence the reason why MEDIAN wage is the relevant statistic.
this is BS, the jump we took on minimum wage was from 7 to 10 dollars in a single shot and guess what? bigmac combos are still 8 bucks before and now 4 years later and guess what? rent is the same and guess what? a loaf of bread is still 2 bucks and milk is the same, smokes are the same, beer is the same, gym memberships are the same, nothing has changed in 4 years since this oocured
Oh BTW vehicles have taken a huge drop in prices, so due to all this a minimum wage worker where I am from can now drive a nice SUV
You should probably pay more attention to your local news. Ontario is trying again to raise the min wage because the cost of living has outgrown the minimum wage, even after the increase.
So no, all those things are not the same.
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well in the post you responded to there were jobs that were being paid at 16 dollars versus the US's minimum wage, which is indeed 130%
Then you're comparing apples to oranges.
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yah exactly ::) which would mean the average Australian has a MUCH harder time doing this.
uhm.
i china, say an average wage is 200usd month.
cost of life is little, alright, for the basic things.
now lets say one is tight and puts away 50usd a month.
compare this
to switzerland, average wage will be 4000 or so usd(including 5 weeks paid holyday,hope this helps)
can put 1500usd a month aside.
thank you, no more questions.
well in the post you responded to there were jobs that were being paid at 16 dollars versus the US's minimum wage, which is indeed 130%
yah,or even more.
increasing ones branch minimum wage cant hurt much, if some employers can afford that, they have no place in the free market ;D :D
gotta stay competitive :D
if you increase everyones minimum wage, theres a risk of higher prices on some goods as result.
or less profits for the coes, and shareholders.
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Yes and everyone else is poorer because of it. Hence the reason why MEDIAN wage is the relevant statistic.
You should probably pay more attention to your local news. Ontario is trying again to raise the min wage because the cost of living has outgrown the minimum wage, even after the increase.
So no, all those things are not the same.
the cost of living in ontario has not changed at all, i live here, I know it has not changed,
So if everyone else's is poorer as in the middle class and high class then so be it, they are not the ones struggling, they can afford to give a little.
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the cost of living in ontario has not changed at all, i live here, I know it has not changed,
So if everyone else's is poorer as in the middle class and high class then so be it, they are not the ones struggling, they can afford to give a little.
A quick google search tells me it has changed and exactly by how much. Your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant.
And yes, thank you for just calling it what it is. Wealth redistribution. Not economic stimulus lol
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ok "maynard keynes" ::)
haha , everyone is oorer bc of increased wages, have i got that lesson right? ;D
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name some examples.
hes the elected potus lol, ofc he cares about an agenda.
How's this galeniko?
Quoted from the AOL/Huffpost article tonight after his State of the Union speech.
President Barack Obama vowed Tuesday night in his State of the Union address to sidestep Congress "whenever and wherever" necessary to narrow economic disparities between rich and poor.
Again the evidence proves me right about President fuckface. His own words. Doesn't seem very in line with our constitution and our founding principles.
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You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer.
- Abraham Lincoln
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My American friends, Australians live much better than you.
Every time when I visit yours shores there is more & more beggar's (black & white),more homeless, sad picture of once mighty nation.
Australian social security & medical system (just like in EC) is far ahead of yours.
Every one has right for free medical assistance & unemployment benefits (no cut offs here).
Food,climate & much more relax life is easy win for Aussie, you guys work much harder for much less.
Without massive WW3, there is simply no way for yours industrial recovery.
O, yes you have never ending Red Carpet TV circus & yes BB freaks.
Looks like God bless America is no more.
This week I am buying another Jeep (JK8 Wrangler ) the best car in the World.
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My American friends, Australians live much better than you.
Every time when I visit yours shores there is more & more beggar's (black & white),more homeless, sad picture of once mighty nation.
Australian social security & medical system (just like in EC) is far ahead of yours.
Every one has right for free medical assistance & unemployment benefits (no cut offs here).
Food,climate & much more relax life is easy win for Aussie, you guys work much harder for much less.
Without massive WW3, there is simply no way for yours industrial recovery.
O, yes you have never ending Red Carpet TV circus & yes BB freaks.
Looks like God bless America is no more.
This week I am buying another Jeep (JK8 Wrangler ) the best car in the World.
::)
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How's this galeniko?
Quoted from the AOL/Huffpost article tonight after his State of the Union speech.
President Barack Obama vowed Tuesday night in his State of the Union address to sidestep Congress "whenever and wherever" necessary to narrow economic disparities between rich and poor.
Again the evidence proves me right about President fuckface. His own words. Doesn't seem very in line with our constitution and our founding principles.
At that point he should have been dragged outside and hung by an oak tree on principle alone.
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At that point he should have been dragged outside and hung by an oak tree on principle alone.
Yep. No admin has tried so hard to circumvent the system to get their agenda furthered. Disgrace in every possible way.
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How's this galeniko?
Quoted from the AOL/Huffpost article tonight after his State of the Union speech.
President Barack Obama vowed Tuesday night in his State of the Union address to sidestep Congress "whenever and wherever" necessary to narrow economic disparities between rich and poor.
Again the evidence proves me right about President fuckface. His own words. Doesn't seem very in line with our constitution and our founding principles.
this is bad indeed.
he knew gop would block that, but such is life.theres no excuse for this,we agree.
btw usa has 2% ppl on minimum wage, increasing that will have no eonomical effect.
nothing worth mention atleast.
keep in mind i never said obama is sound in all decisions.
Yep. No admin has tried so hard to circumvent the system to get their agenda furthered. Disgrace in every possible way.
dont be so sure about that, read the book "dirty wars"
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this is bad indeed.
he knew gop would block that, but such is life.theres no excuse for this,we agree.
btw usa has 2% ppl on minimum wage, increasing that will have no eonomical effect.
nothing worth mention atleast.
keep in mind i never said obama is sound in all decisions.
dont be so sure about that, read the book "dirty wars"
Have studied US politics for years and know that many admins have played dirty but nowhere near this level. Just look at the number of executive orders this clown has signed. And if you arent sure what that means, essentially instead of having input from congress ie: the people, an exec order overrides the process. He seeks ways to get his personal agenda across with no regard to what the majority want.
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this is bad dont be so sure about that, read the book "dirty wars"
its not just the military industrial complex that works like that. The whole system is based on "crony Capitalism".
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its not just the military industrial complex that works like that. The whole system is based on "crony Capitalism".
this.
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O, yes you have never ending Red Carpet TV circus & yes BB freaks.
Looks like God bless America is no more.
This week I am buying another Jeep (JK8 Wrangler ) the best car in the World.
LOL
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Good for Obama.....if the flat earther's don't want to work, then fuck them\
In the history of the Republic, there have been 168 filibusters of executive and judicial nominations. Half of them have occurred during the Obama Administration – during the last four and a half years
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Good for Obama.....if the flat earther's don't want to work, then fuck them\
In the history of the Republic, there have been 168 filibusters of executive and judicial nominations. Half of them have occurred during the Obama Administration – during the last four and a half years
Hey Vince, are you still charging $3000.00 for business seminars?
Wondering how many of the posters on here that agree with this minimum wage increase bafoonery actually have small businesses and employees?
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Hey Vince, are you still charging $3000.00 for business seminars?
Wondering how many of the posters on here that agree with this minimum wage increase bafoonery actually have small businesses and employees?
yes I do own my own my own business and yes I employ workers, why ask? what is your point exactly? please explain
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Good for Obama.....if the flat earther's don't want to work, then fuck them\
In the history of the Republic, there have been 168 filibusters of executive and judicial nominations. Half of them have occurred during the Obama Administration – during the last four and a half years
lolwut
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Wondering how many of the posters on here that agree with this minimum wage increase bafoonery actually have small businesses and employees?
i had one, i was very generous, i paid them in food,on a good day, 1 extra bread piece no problemo(leftover from last day)
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i had one, i was very generous, i paid them in food,on a good day, 1 extra bread piece no problemo(leftover from last day)
being greedy is wrong, Coach thought just cause we own our own business we would be against minimum wage increase. Not me man, everyone has to eat, I think the only people who deserve minimum wage is personal trainers, following people around the gym and switching the pins on a machine then going out to dinner with their friends and acting like it is rocket science to train people. lmao
:D
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- There are over 4 millions jobs that cannot be filled due to lack of qualified workers in the US.
- A person working full time making minimum wage is above the poverty line
- Less than 2% of people working in the US make minimum wage
- The majority of people making minimum wage are young individuals
This isnt about fairness, this isnt about the economy...THIS IS ABOUT ECONOMIC POPULISM TO HELP RALLY VOTES.
It get idiots all riled up as seen in this thread who think these people deserve to get paid more.
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I believe the lowest paid federal job is something around 13 an hour. So whats the point?
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I believe the lowest paid federal job is something around 13 an hour. So whats the point?
this extends to employees of federal contractors not just federal employees.
So basically that hammer that used to cost the US tax payer $90 will now cost $94...
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Hey Vince, are you still charging $3000.00 for business seminars?
Wondering how many of the posters on here that agree with this minimum wage increase bafoonery actually have small businesses and employees?
Europeans have historically looked down on Entrepreneurs and those who create jobs and wealth.
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- There are over 4 millions jobs that cannot be filled due to lack of qualified workers in the US.
- A person working full time making minimum wage is above the poverty line
- Less than 2% of people working in the US make minimum wage
- The majority of people making minimum wage are young individuals
This isnt about fairness, this isnt about the economy...THIS IS ABOUT ECONOMIC POPULISM TO HELP RALLY VOTES.
It get idiots all riled up as seen in this thread who think these people deserve to get paid more.
who you calling idiot you piece of trash. :P
Of course we get it, Obama is doing it as political strategy duh.... does not change the facts here though, 2% is still over 6 million people and many of them have to pay rent and feed children, they can used a little more at the expense of the middle and high class, why not. I make OK money, i do not have a problem paying taxes or giving back.
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who you calling idiot you piece of trash. :P
Of course we get it, Obama is doing it as political strategy duh.... does not change the facts here though, 2% is still over 6 million people and many of them have to pay rent and feed children, they can used a little more at the expense of the middle and high class, why not. I make OK money, i do not have a problem paying taxes or giving back.
You should help people voluntarily because it's the right thing to do, the government shouldn't force you to support others at the point of a gun.
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You should help people voluntarily because it's the right thing to do, the government shouldn't force you to support others at the point of a gun.
I actually agree with you here but there is some jobs that just slave people and pay them peanuts, not cool.
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I actually agree with you here but there is some jobs that just slave people and pay them peanuts, not cool.
I agree, it's not cool and I don't like companies that take advantage of people.
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who you calling idiot you piece of trash. :P
Of course we get it, Obama is doing it as political strategy duh.... does not change the facts here though, 2% is still over 6 million people and many of them have to pay rent and feed children, they can used a little more at the expense of the middle and high class, why not. I make OK money, i do not have a problem paying taxes or giving back.
Actually the number of minimum wage workers is about half that 3.6mm and of those many are younger individuals who will end up making more money in the future.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2012.htm
thats great that you make OK money and dont have a problem paying taxes or giving back, you should donate then instead of trying to impose your views on others.
I imagine you are one of those people who dislikes it when religious people try to legislate their views on others. Yet you have no issue trying to push your moral views on others.
The minimum wage was not intended to allow a single mother to take care of herself and her 2 kids born out of wedlock. The govt should not make it our responsibility to take care of people who make shitty life decisions. Perhaps if we stopped constantly bailing people out of their shitty decisions people would start thinking twice.
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good stuff oth, giving your employers bit more wage didnt hurt neither you nor the canadian economy was brought down ;D
btw,i dont care what wage i work for as long i can afford this:
-roof over head,you know, a flat wiht heating
-food.my bodybuilding food, not the shit average joe cheap diet.
-car,hm dont give fuck about car actually,cept winter is good to have
-bit holiday every year
-oh and lets say twice a month a high class whore for 30-60minutes.
-health insurance and such things.
thats it
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Actually the number of minimum wage workers is about half that 3.6mm and of those many are younger individuals who will end up making more money in the future.
http://www.bls.gov/cps/minwage2012.htm
thats great that you make OK money and dont have a problem paying taxes or giving back, you should donate then instead of trying to impose your views on others.
I imagine you are one of those people who dislikes it when religious people try to legislate their views on others. Yet you have no issue trying to push your moral views on others.
The minimum wage was not intended to allow a single mother to take care of herself and her 2 kids born out of wedlock. The govt should not make it our responsibility to take care of people who make shitty life decisions. Perhaps if we stopped constantly bailing people out of their shitty decisions people would start thinking twice.
well good to see you responded logically and decided to explain while not calling us idiots again lol ;)
As for the 6 million, I am going based on you saying 2 %, 2% of 300 million is 6 million, so now you are saying it is 1% ???
either way, people are not all made as superstars and many make mistakes in life and have no talent or social skills and are delusional and suffer having no choice but work minimum wage, I am sorry you do not give a shit about them but I will encourage everyone to give a shit about them here.
As for donations? I do, I give to the Church, yes I go to church as well.
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good stuff oth, giving your employers bit more wage didnt hurt neither you nor the canadian economy was brought down ;D
btw,i dont care what wage i work for as long i can afford this:
-roof over head,you know, a flat wiht heating
-food.my bodybuilding food, not the shit average joe cheap diet.
-car,hm dont give fuck about car actually,cept winter is good to have
-bit holiday every year
-oh and lets say twice a month a high class whore for 30-60minutes.
-health insurance and such things.
thats it
some guy was begging me for work and I put him off and off and off and he told me please and he wants 12 bucks an hour, I finally said ok show up monday at my shop and we will start, didn't talk about pay and when I paid, it was 15 dollars per hour and he was shocked and said what is this. I told him roofing is hard, i do not put anyone on the roof for under 15 buck per hour, couldn't live with myself doing that.
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well good to see you responded logically and decided to explain while not calling us idiots again lol ;)
As for the 6 million, I am going based on you saying 2 %, 2% of 300 million is 6 million, so now you are saying it is 1% ???
either way, people are not all made as superstars and many make mistakes in life and have no talent or social skills and are delusional and suffer having no choice but work minimum wage, I am sorry you do not give a shit about them but I will encourage everyone to give a shit about them here.
As for donations? I do, I give to the Church, yes I go to church as well.
2% of the people working in the U.S.
Not 2% of the people living in the U.S.
If you can't keep that simple point straight, why continue?
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2% of the people working in the U.S.
Not 2% of the people living in the U.S.
If you can't keep that simple point straight, why continue?
I stand corrected, my bad, hey I am only human.
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World's most big-hearted nation: the United States
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101240935
The United States is the world's most generous nation, according to a global index of giving, as a higher proportion of Americans helped a stranger than any other country in the world.
The 2013 World Giving Index – published annually by international nonprofit organization Charities Aid Foundation – looks at three measures: monetary giving, volunteering and helping of strangers in a typical month. The survey, published on Tuesday, was carried out in 2012 across 135 countries.
Rounding out the bottom of the World Giving Index was Greece, reflecting the sluggish economic recovery in the indebted euro zone nation.
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well good to see you responded logically and decided to explain while not calling us idiots again lol ;)
As for the 6 million, I am going based on you saying 2 %, 2% of 300 million is 6 million, so now you are saying it is 1% ???
either way, people are not all made as superstars and many make mistakes in life and have no talent or social skills and are delusional and suffer having no choice but work minimum wage, I am sorry you do not give a shit about them but I will encourage everyone to give a shit about them here.
As for donations? I do, I give to the Church, yes I go to church as well.
I believe its just under 2% of those working not the entire population but you can check me link from the government if you want. I assume that if you wont take my word you will at least take theirs seeing as you trust them to push your views on others ::)
If you legitmately need assistance to survive there are PLENTY of govt programs to help out. I am sorry but I have very high expectations of people, myself included.
I dont think its too much to ask that you make good life decisions and you stand responsible for the bad ones you make (which we all do to some extent).
Hahaha your "I dont give a shit about them" idiocy is typical libtard ideology. Anytime someone is against raising the minimum wage they dont give a shit poor people, if youre against gay marriage then you hate gays, if youre against abortion then you hate women....
Fact is I care greatly about those who geniuenly need help and I too volunteer both time and money to help those less fortunate.
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World's most big-hearted nation: the United States
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101240935
The United States is the world's most generous nation, according to a global index of giving, as a higher proportion of Americans helped a stranger than any other country in the world.
The 2013 World Giving Index – published annually by international nonprofit organization Charities Aid Foundation – looks at three measures: monetary giving, volunteering and helping of strangers in a typical month. The survey, published on Tuesday, was carried out in 2012 across 135 countries.
Rounding out the bottom of the World Giving Index was Greece, reflecting the sluggish economic recovery in the indebted euro zone nation.
im sorry this is bs, this says nothing about helpfulness of population.
donation through charity numbers are no sound parameter to establish generousity of the ppl.
that said,usa military spending to police the world is so expensive, im actualy glad they do this.this realy is generous, no joking.and valueable.
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im sorry this is bs, this says nothing about helpfulness of population.
donation through charity numbers are no sound parameter to establish generousity of the ppl.
that said,usa military spending to police the world is so expensive, im actualy glad they do this.this realy is generous, no joking.and valueable.
how would you measure the "helpfulness" theen?
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how would you measure the "helpfulness" theen?
Where do charities get the money from?
They just print it out themselves?
???
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how would you measure the "helpfulness" theen?
are you taking the piss?
you want discussion or be a patronizing cunnt?
you think, donating to charity better the world?its the lazy way of making one feel better about themselves.
Where do charities get the money from?
They just print it out themselves?
???
how much arrives at the ppl in need?
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Where do charities get the money from?
They just print it out themselves?
???
I dont know maybe we could factor in holding doors open and helping elderly ppl carry their groceries?
He must have something in mind to have made such a comment though...
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are you taking the piss?
you want discussion or be a patronizing cunnt?
you think, donating to charity better the world?its the lazy way of making one feel better about themselves.
how much arrives at the ppl in need?
well the study didnt just take into account monetary donations...
"looks at three measures: monetary giving, volunteering and helping of strangers in a typical month."
So do you actually have ideas outside of these 3 or were you just being a little girl?
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also, lol, give me a break, usa govt foreign "Help" comes with a catch22.
something like "we will establish a military base in exchange" or whatever other shenanigans.
but yes there are very charitable individuals in the usa, john d rockefeller always always donated 10% of his income to charitable things, this is good to know.
I dont know maybe we could factor in holding doors open and helping elderly ppl carry their groceries?
He must have something in mind to have made such a comment though...
uhm, yes personal basis stuff.
screw all those govt releases and "Ngo"s statistics.
hell i even said, as wolrd poilce usa is most charitable, by will or not, but it is.and is a good thing.
well the study didnt just take into account monetary donations...
"looks at three measures: monetary giving, volunteering and helping of strangers in a typical month."
So do you actually have ideas outside of these 3 or were you just being a little girl?
see above, those are all too vague.
its all just worldplay.
helpfulness,theres much more of that in 3rd world shitholes where ppl have real problems.
its a vague term used to twist stats.helpfulness cant be measured properly, theres too many interpretations.
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also, lol, give me a break, usa govt foreign "Help" comes with a catch22.
something like "we will establish a military base in exchange" or whatever other shenanigans.
but yes there are very charitable individuals in the usa, john d rockefeller always always donated 10% of his income to charitable things, this is good to know.
uhm, yes personal basis stuff.
screw all those govt releases and "Ngo"s statistics.
hell i even said, as wolrd poilce usa is most charitable, by will or not, but it is.and is a good thing.
see above, those are all too vague.
its all just worldplay.
helpfulness,theres much more of that in 3rd world shitholes where ppl have real problems.
its a vague term used to twist stats.helpfulness cant be measured properly, theres too many interpretations.
I dont know if youre drunk or just fucking retarded but the study seems to be based on individual actions not the actions of govts.
Look bro I know that for some reason you dont want to admit the US is a great nation and give it much credit. Dont know why people like you seem to have a chip on your shoulder when it comes to the US and dont care.
LOL so your new argument is that true helpfulness cannot be measured? ok...so basically you have made up criteria that cannot be measured so that youre premise cannot be proven wrong...awesome
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yes I do own my own my own business and yes I employ workers, why ask? what is your point exactly? please explain
How much do you pay your employees? Do you employ workers that would warrant making a minimum wage? Why exactly are you in business? If you're In a business that warrants paying a minimum wage are you raising the cost of your goods? See how that works??
What warrants a minimum wage worker? IMO, it's someone with at a low education that can only get an entry level job. You said you were in roofing, so was I as a contractor, consultant, inspector and system designer. A first year apprentice would warrant this pay. If I had to pay more, i would have to work that labor into my bid then in turn would raise my cost. When the price of oil rises, do you raise the cost of materials? Of course you do.
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How much do you pay your employees? Do you employ workers that would warrant making a minimum wage? Why exactly are you in business? If you're In a business that warrants paying a minimum wage are you raising the cost of your goods? See how that works??
What warrants a minimum wage worker? IMO, it's someone with at a low education that can only get an entry level job. You said you were in roofing, so was I as a contractor, consultant, inspector and system designer. A first year apprentice would warrant this pay. If I had to pay more, i would have to work that labor into my bid then in turn would raise my cost. When the price of oil rises, do you raise the cost of materials? Of course you do.
I understand your point and in fairness I do not run a biz that pays out minimum wage, however I did explain in a post that a guy begged me for work and was willing to accept 12 dollars an hour but I gave him 15 because i have a conscious and roofing is a tough gig, 15 is where I start from..
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I understand your point and in fairness I do not run a biz that pays out minimum wage, however I did explain in a post that a guy begged me for work and was willing to accept 12 dollars an hour but I gave him 15 because i have a conscious and roofing is a tough gig, 15 is where I start from..
how much would you pay a person to push buttons on a computer and clean tables?
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how much would you pay a person to push buttons on a computer and clean tables?
talent deserves more, so I would pay them based on there ability for the computer job. there is minimum wage jobs that slave the workers though, like a dishwasher.
I mean I can still get workers at 12 dollars an hour to roof all day long but I just will not pay that little
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I understand your point and in fairness I do not run a biz that pays out minimum wage, however I did explain in a post that a guy begged me for work and was willing to accept 12 dollars an hour but I gave him 15 because i have a conscious and roofing is a tough gig, 15 is where I start from..
Truth is, almost no one pays out minimum wage anyway with the exception of fast food joints, small businesses, etc so this is almost a moot point. But there are small businesses that have no choice, then tack on higher taxes, insurances, obamacare there is no choice but to pass on the added expenses to the consumer. We got into business to make more money, that's the goal and not to give away or have our livelihood stolen from is. Again, I got into business to make money and of course help others. But it comes at a premium as it should.
Even I now, I could easily get back into the roofing industry without missing a beat making very good living but why take a pay cut when I could have my own business making more?
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talent deserves more, so I would pay them based on there ability for the computer job. there is minimum wage jobs that slave the workers though, like a dishwasher.
I mean I can still get workers at 12 dollars an hour to roof all day long but I just will not pay that little
You responded without answering, how much would you pay them?
If you say you would pay them based on their ability how can you shit on people who pay the minimum wage or even less? I mean if that's the extent of the ability those workers have for that position then are they not following your ideals?
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You responded without answering, how much would you pay them?
If you say you would pay them based on their ability how can you shit on people who pay the minimum wage or even less? I mean if that's the extent of the ability those workers have for that position then are they not following your ideals?
your post is dumb, there has to be a minimum, i can not get bums off the street to shovel my lane way for 3 dollars an hour, ya that is all I would be willing to pay cause I do not have that in my budget to spend on that sort of thing so will I though?, of course not, that is wrong, so jobs have to be worth a minimum in order for them to operate, if not then discontinue the job but do not slave someone for minimum wage because that is all they are worth to you,
Minimum wage should be slightly higher, jobs who can not afford to accommodate higher pay then the present minimum wage should not be operatable
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your post is dumb, there has to be a minimum, i can not get bums off the street to shovel my lane way for 3 dollars an hour, ya that is all I would be willing to pay cause I do not have that in my budget to spend on that sort of thing so will I though?, of course not, that is wrong, so jobs have to be worth a minimum in order for them to operate, if not then discontinue the job but do not slave someone for minimum wage because that is all they are worth to you,
Minimum wage should be slightly higher, jobs who can not afford to accommodate higher pay then the present minimum wage should not be operatable
Let me ask you about that last paragraph. What is slightly higher in your opinion? If you keep raising minimum wage, it cuts into profits, when you cut into profits it slows growth because you're taking less of a portion of the profits for reinvestment. If you can't grow, you cannot hire.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/obama-minimum-wage_n_4677355.html
It's about time. Here in Canada, minimum wage is over $10/hour.
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It's about time. Here in Canada, minimum wage is over $10/hour.
How much is a big mac in Canada?
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Let me ask you about that last paragraph. What is slightly higher in your opinion? If you keep raising minimum wage, it cuts into profits, when you cut into profits it slows growth because you're taking less of a portion of the profits for reinvestment. If you can't grow, you cannot hire.
14 years ago I was paid $ 6.85 per hour as a dish washer at 18 years old, I had a bachelor apartment for 500 bucks a month, where a 2 bedroom apartment at the time was 750 bucks a month.
Fast forward to present day, a whopping 11 dollars for minimum wage, it went up that much in 14 years, and guess what 2 bedroom rent is now, 850 bucks a months, only up 100 dollars.
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How much is a big mac in Canada?
A big mac is the price of 50% of minimum wage and a bic mac 14 years ago was 75% of minimum wage. ;)
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14 years ago I was paid $ 6.85 per hour as a dish washer at 18 years old, I had a bachelor apartment for 500 bucks a month, where a 2 bedroom apartment at the time was 750 bucks a month.
Fast forward to present day, a whopping 11 dollars for minimum wage, it went up that much in 14 years, and guess what 2 bedroom rent is now, 850 bucks a months, only up 100 dollars.
I like it when people make enough to be independent. I don't see why you guys think McDonald's is obligated to pay "a living wage" though.
McDonald's being considered legitimate adult employment, brings us all down as a society.
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If the government would instead cut Walmart employee's welfare and gov. benefits, those employees would no longer find it possible to work at Walmart unless Walmart raised their wages.
Gov intrusion causes all these problems, more intrusion won't fix anything.
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I like it when people make enough to be independent. I don't see why you guys think McDonald's is obligated to pay "a living wage" though.
McDonald's being considered legitimate adult employment, brings us all down as a society.
and this is really my only argument here, is being able to get by and the wages now do not allow for this in the US like they do where I live. In fact with our minimum wage you can live in a 2 bedroom apartment and drive an SUV comfortably, all because minimum was increased dramatically.
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I like it when people make enough to be independent. I don't see why you guys think McDonald's is obligated to pay "a living wage" though.
McDonald's being considered legitimate adult employment, brings us all down as a society.
I totally agree.
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Costco is known for paying their employees very well and the business is doing just fine
Costco's CEO and president, Craig Jelinek, has publicly endorsed raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, and he takes that to heart. The company's starting pay is $11.50 per hour, and the average employee wage is $21 per hour, not including overtime.
I know someone who works at Costco and he makes like $19.00 per hour.
However, research shows that it pays to pay employees well, because satisfied workers are more productive and motivated, according to MIT Sloan School of Management professor Zeynep Ton, who focuses on operations management.
"How many times have you gone to a store, and the shelves are empty or the checkout line is too long, or employees are rude?," she said. "At Costco, you see a huge line that disappears in minutes."
The productivity translates into sales, she said.
According to Ton's research, sales per employee at Costco were almost double those at Sam's Club, its direct warehouse competitor owned by Wal-Mart.
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130805123117-worker-pay-620xa.jpg)
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and this is really my only argument here, is being able to get by and the wages now do not allow for this in the US like they do where I live. In fact with our minimum wage you can live in a 2 bedroom apartment and drive an SUV comfortably, all because minimum was increased dramatically.
I just can't see how it's fair or even economically sound to force an employer to pay so much more than someone's market value. This would have to be the final blow to thousands of struggling small businesses.
If you can't live on your McDonald's salary, it's because you're so easily replaceable by a teenager that doesn't demand a living wage, or it's because the government is subsidizing the rest of your income.
I think we should try to get to the root of the problem.
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I just can't see how it's fair or even economically sound to force an employer to pay so much more than someone's market value. This would have to be the final blow to thousands of struggling small businesses.
If you can't live on your McDonald's salary, it's because you're so easily replaceable by a teenager that doesn't demand a living wage, or it's because the government is subsidizing the rest of your income.
I think we should try to get to the root of the problem.
I wonder how much Queen Vissy makes.
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I wonder how much Queen Vissy makes.
I though Vissy was some kind of male model?
Hopefully Goodrum lets him borrow his Costco card. ;D
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I though Vissy was some kind of male model?
Hopefully Goodrum lets him borrow his Costco card. ;D
Goodrum takes Queen Vissy for romantic dinners at Costco.
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Goodrum takes Queen Vissy for romantic dinners at Costco.
ROFL
I bet Goodrum can totally clean them out of free samples.
It would be funny if Vissy collected all kinds of samples and they went to have a picnic in one of the outdoor displays... And Vissy wore a beautiful sun dress, and some Marilyn Monroe sunglasses. ;D
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ROFL
I bet Goodrum can totally clean them out of free samples.
It would be funny if Vissy collected all kinds of samples and they went to have a picnic in one of the outdoor displays... And Vissy wore a beautiful sun dress, and some Marilyn Monroe sunglasses. ;D
Well, on Queen Vissy's Facebook page, he has a few pictures of him where he is wearing a cute penguin hat. So maybe he can wear that when Goodrum takes him out.
And yes, Vissy would be going crazy for all those free samples at Costco. He would feed them to Vince while on their picnic blanket.
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Well, on Queen Vissy's Facebook page, he has a few pictures of him where he is wearing a cute penguin hat. So maybe he can wear that when Goodrum takes him out.
And yes, Vissy would be going crazy for all those free samples at Costco. He would feed them to Vince while on their picnic blanket.
That cracks me up!!! Vince should try and get his Bees wax or pollen or whatever it is sold at costco.
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Goodrum takes Queen Vissy for romantic dinners at Costco.
;D
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your post is dumb, there has to be a minimum, i can not get bums off the street to shovel my lane way for 3 dollars an hour, ya that is all I would be willing to pay cause I do not have that in my budget to spend on that sort of thing so will I though?, of course not, that is wrong, so jobs have to be worth a minimum in order for them to operate, if not then discontinue the job but do not slave someone for minimum wage because that is all they are worth to you,
Minimum wage should be slightly higher, jobs who can not afford to accommodate higher pay then the present minimum wage should not be operatable
Nobody is a slave to the minimum wage...where did you get that stupidity from?
nobody is stopping anyone from doing whats needed to get a better paying job ::)
why are your expectations of others so fucking low?