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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2012, 09:26:30 AM »
only need one

same as last time

the alternative is worse



How is Romney worse than Obama? 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2012, 09:32:54 AM »


So again - not a single sentence as to defend the actions of this president who you voted for and plan on doing so again.  


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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2012, 09:35:14 AM »
How is Romney worse than Obama?  

Romney is on all sides of all issues

As Huntsman put it:  He's a perfectly lubricated weathervane

I believe he would be worse on both economic and social issues

He's also an unabashed liar

Bottom line - I don't trust him

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2012, 09:41:11 AM »
So again - not one single defense of obama's policies. 

Got it. 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2012, 10:04:40 AM »
Oh look, the 333 Stalking Brigade shitting all over another thread. Apparently Ozmo's post saying to keep the ad homs out of this thread really rang home with his followers.  ::)

That is all the obama drones have - petty childish fits and a refusal to openly discuss any of the policies pursued by this disaster in the WH 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2012, 10:19:49 AM »
Romney is on all sides of all issues

As Huntsman put it:  He's a perfectly lubricated weathervane

I believe he would be worse on both economic and social issues

He's also an unabashed liar

Bottom line - I don't trust him


He is on 1 side of 1 issue: spending -- do less!!  that should be enuf for 99% of america!!

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2012, 10:52:13 AM »
So you have not one policy or "achievement" you are defending of obama, merely that you distrust mittens? 

I could list a bunch of things but then you'll just rant and rave for 5 pages saying the same things we've heard from you for the last 4 years

What's the point ?

As I've said, on voting day it will still come down the to lesser of two evils

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2012, 10:56:00 AM »
I could list a bunch of things but then you'll just rant and rave for 5 pages saying the same things we've heard from you for the last 4 years

What's the point ?

As I've said, on voting day it will still come down the to lesser of two evils

Considering Obama has really been Bush's 3rd term on steroids, wouldnt it make sense to vote for mittens for the chance of change you never got in 2008 that you were promised? 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2012, 11:05:06 AM »
Considering Obama has really been Bush's 3rd term on steroids, wouldnt it make sense to vote for mittens for the chance of change you never got in 2008 that you were promised? 

I guess that must mean you think Bush was also trying to collapse the nation

why would Bush want to do that ?

to avenge what we did to his father like Obama?

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2012, 11:16:58 AM »
I guess that must mean you think Bush was also trying to collapse the nation

why would Bush want to do that ?

to avenge what we did to his father like Obama?

George Bush was a fiscal socialist, a NWO open borders RINO piece of garbage, and had little or no concern for most taxpayers. 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2012, 06:15:15 PM »
Ok guys stay on topic.

We are not debating the language of the thread here.

1.  If you don't think OB should be re-elected state why
2.  If you think OB should  be elected state why
3.  If you agree or disagree with  statements from 1 or 2 state why.


Stop the ad hom in your arguments.

Try to have a straight forward debate please. 

Thanks.

Why is this so hard to understand?  If you have that much of a problem doing this, stay off the thread. 


If you cant help yourself, I will just ban you altogether.

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2012, 03:43:36 AM »
George Bush was a fiscal socialist, a NWO open borders RINO piece of garbage, and had little or no concern for most taxpayers. 

You think Romney is better?

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2012, 06:52:03 AM »
The lack of legit participation in this thread tells me there arent too many OB supporters here.

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2012, 06:54:05 AM »
The lack of legit participation in this thread tells me there arent too many OB supporters here.

There are plenty - but they support him for emotional reasons, not logical or factual reasons they can articulate in any fashion. 

That is why they resort to petty attacks and insults. 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2012, 07:05:15 AM »
There are plenty - but they support him for emotional reasons, not logical or factual reasons they can articulate in any fashion. 

That is why they resort to petty attacks and insults. 

Yeah I see that to a certain extent outside this forum too.  Unfortunately, I still think he is going to get reelected.  This GOP circus is mainly to blame combined with the perception and reporting among many that the Econ is getting better. Did you see on drudge where Santorum said it would be better to reelected OB than elect Romney ?

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2012, 07:10:09 AM »
Yeah I see that to a certain extent outside this forum too.  Unfortunately, I still think he is going to get reelected.  This GOP circus is mainly to blame combined with the perception and reporting among many that the Econ is getting better. Did you see on drudge where Santorum said it would be better to reelected OB than elect Romney ?

Yes, and i see little or no difference w romney or Obama.  The only good thing is that if Obama gets a second term and squeeks by and the gop gets a few more seats - his second term will totally end the democrats altogether and maybe we will get to the bottom of fast and furious and the birth certificate issue . 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2012, 07:15:15 AM »
You know, if he does get a second term, I doubt that, if he really wasn't born here, we will ever know.   I don't see our government embarrassing itself and tarnishing the office like that and wouldn't put it pass them to hide it.  But again, based on what I have seen and researched he was born here. 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2012, 07:18:19 AM »
You know, if he does get a second term, I doubt that, if he really wasn't born here, we will ever know.   I don't see our government embarrassing itself and tarnishing the office like that and wouldn't put it pass them to hide it.  But again, based on what I have seen and researched he was born here. 

Has obama even articulated what he wants to do in the next 4 years?  So far, all I have seen is that he wants another push for amnesty for illegals. 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2012, 08:19:32 AM »

1. Osamacare-- It is going to bankrupt the already bankrupt republic, destroy personal liberty, force people onto a government system, tax us into oblivion and fundamentally change this country for the worse. The fact that this piece of shit was passed using lies, deception and back room deals despite the American public's strong opposition to it demonstrates exactly why Osama cannot get 4 more years.

2. Cabinet Appointments-- Van Jones, Janet Napolitano, Time Geithner, Steven Chu, Kathleen Sebilius, Leon Panetta and last but not least Eric Holder. This horror show of braindead/ fanatical leftist incompetents should be reason enough to deny the commander in chump a second term. Not to gloss over the numerous gaffes, scandals and proclamations of idiocy-- but I could literally use up all of the bandwith on this website recounting each and every one.

3. Osama isn't running for re-election again- There will be nothing to stop Osama from furthering his already out of control socialist agenda. He will likely get another Supreme Court appointment. He will 100% keep pushing the green energy hoax and continue to ramp up the EPA's power. He will undoubtedly continue his assault on the private sector, increase spending, increase the size of government and continue to use the constitution as toilet paper. With nothing to lose, Osama goes from an empty suit who hates America to a  treasonous dictator intent on destroying America.  

4. Division within the country: Under what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history, America is more divided than ever. Racial divisions are more pronounced and the mood of the country is somewhere between despair and indifference. Osama never met a teleprompter he didn't like-- Every chance he gets he tells the GOP to be civil and courteous-- that polite discourse is important. Meanwhile he says that Republicans want dirty air and water, they want to throw grandma off healthcare and they are intentionally trying to make the economy worse.  He also conveniently ignores the fact that his party is jam packed with the most disgusting, dishonest and toxic voices in the political arena today. When pandering to Latin voters he says they should "punish their enemies"... etc. etc.--> I could also recount his class warfare nonsense and his personal vendetta against the Catholic church-- but I digress

5. The Stimulus- Nuff said

6. Personal Associations- If it quacks like a duck, its a duck. Ayers, Doorn, Wright, Derick Bell, Rezko and on and on and on. When you take his personal history into account with his friends, mentors and the legislation he has supported and enacted, you would have to be a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a radical socialist piece of garbage who is intent on destroying the United States.

7. Foreign Policy- Destroying our nukes while doing nothing to address Iran's or NK's-- going into Libya for no good reason and not doing anything about Syria or Iran, kissing the asses of the Chinese and Russians while abandoning our allies, apologizing to the world for America's greatness, his pathetic and moronic attempts at "outeach" to Islamic countries, his continued support of the Palestinian terrorist state ( our tax dollars are actually funding a green building project in Gaza-- to make their government offices more friendly to the environment), his visceral hatred for Israel except at fundraisers-- I could continue for weeks.

8. His only success as President came riding the coatails of GW Bush, you know-- the same policies that the left attacked Bush for implementing during his entire tenure as President.

9. If you still need another reason, you're a moron.

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2012, 08:29:46 AM »
1. Osamacare-- It is going to bankrupt the already bankrupt republic, destroy personal liberty, force people onto a government system, tax us into oblivion and fundamentally change this country for the worse. The fact that this piece of shit was passed using lies, deception and back room deals despite the American public's strong opposition to it demonstrates exactly why Osama cannot get 4 more years.

2. Cabinet Appointments-- Van Jones, Janet Napolitano, Time Geithner, Steven Chu, Kathleen Sebilius, Leon Panetta and last but not least Eric Holder. This horror show of braindead/ fanatical leftist incompetents should be reason enough to deny the commander in chump a second term. Not to gloss over the numerous gaffes, scandals and proclamations of idiocy-- but I could literally use up all of the bandwith on this website recounting each and every one.

3. Osama isn't running for re-election again- There will be nothing to stop Osama from furthering his already out of control socialist agenda. He will likely get another Supreme Court appointment. He will 100% keep pushing the green energy hoax and continue to ramp up the EPA's power. He will undoubtedly continue his assault on the private sector, increase spending, increase the size of government and continue to use the constitution as toilet paper. With nothing to lose, Osama goes from an empty suit who hates America to a  treasonous dictator intent on destroying America.  

4. Division within the country: Under what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history, America is more divided than ever. Racial divisions are more pronounced and the mood of the country is somewhere between despair and indifference. Osama never met a teleprompter he didn't like-- Every chance he gets he tells the GOP to be civil and courteous-- that polite discourse is important. Meanwhile he says that Republicans want dirty air and water, they want to throw grandma off healthcare and they are intentionally trying to make the economy worse.  He also conveniently ignores the fact that his party is jam packed with the most disgusting, dishonest and toxic voices in the political arena today. When pandering to Latin voters he says they should "punish their enemies"... etc. etc.--> I could also recount his class warfare nonsense and his personal vendetta against the Catholic church-- but I digress

5. The Stimulus- Nuff said

6. Personal Associations- If it quacks like a duck, its a duck. Ayers, Doorn, Wright, Derick Bell, Rezko and on and on and on. When you take his personal history into account with his friends, mentors and the legislation he has supported and enacted, you would have to be a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a radical socialist piece of garbage who is intent on destroying the United States.

7. Foreign Policy- Destroying our nukes while doing nothing to address Iran's or NK's-- going into Libya for no good reason and not doing anything about Syria or Iran, kissing the asses of the Chinese and Russians while abandoning our allies, apologizing to the world for America's greatness, his pathetic and moronic attempts at "outeach" to Islamic countries, his continued support of the Palestinian terrorist state ( our tax dollars are actually funding a green building project in Gaza-- to make their government offices more friendly to the environment), his visceral hatred for Israel except at fundraisers-- I could continue for weeks.

8. His only success as President came riding the coatails of GW Bush, you know-- the same policies that the left attacked Bush for implementing during his entire tenure as President.

9. If you still need another reason, you're a moron.

and most of those are exactly why he "desereves" another term

by "deserve" I mean why more people will vote for him over his opponent

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2012, 09:26:28 AM »
1. Osamacare-- It is going to bankrupt the already bankrupt republic, destroy personal liberty, force people onto a government system, tax us into oblivion and fundamentally change this country for the worse. The fact that this piece of shit was passed using lies, deception and back room deals despite the American public's strong opposition to it demonstrates exactly why Osama cannot get 4 more years.

2. Cabinet Appointments-- Van Jones, Janet Napolitano, Time Geithner, Steven Chu, Kathleen Sebilius, Leon Panetta and last but not least Eric Holder. This horror show of braindead/ fanatical leftist incompetents should be reason enough to deny the commander in chump a second term. Not to gloss over the numerous gaffes, scandals and proclamations of idiocy-- but I could literally use up all of the bandwith on this website recounting each and every one.

3. Osama isn't running for re-election again- There will be nothing to stop Osama from furthering his already out of control socialist agenda. He will likely get another Supreme Court appointment. He will 100% keep pushing the green energy hoax and continue to ramp up the EPA's power. He will undoubtedly continue his assault on the private sector, increase spending, increase the size of government and continue to use the constitution as toilet paper. With nothing to lose, Osama goes from an empty suit who hates America to a  treasonous dictator intent on destroying America.  

4. Division within the country: Under what was supposed to be the most transparent administration in history, America is more divided than ever. Racial divisions are more pronounced and the mood of the country is somewhere between despair and indifference. Osama never met a teleprompter he didn't like-- Every chance he gets he tells the GOP to be civil and courteous-- that polite discourse is important. Meanwhile he says that Republicans want dirty air and water, they want to throw grandma off healthcare and they are intentionally trying to make the economy worse.  He also conveniently ignores the fact that his party is jam packed with the most disgusting, dishonest and toxic voices in the political arena today. When pandering to Latin voters he says they should "punish their enemies"... etc. etc.--> I could also recount his class warfare nonsense and his personal vendetta against the Catholic church-- but I digress

5. The Stimulus- Nuff said

6. Personal Associations- If it quacks like a duck, its a duck. Ayers, Doorn, Wright, Derick Bell, Rezko and on and on and on. When you take his personal history into account with his friends, mentors and the legislation he has supported and enacted, you would have to be a fucking idiot to think he is anything but a radical socialist piece of garbage who is intent on destroying the United States.

7. Foreign Policy- Destroying our nukes while doing nothing to address Iran's or NK's-- going into Libya for no good reason and not doing anything about Syria or Iran, kissing the asses of the Chinese and Russians while abandoning our allies, apologizing to the world for America's greatness, his pathetic and moronic attempts at "outeach" to Islamic countries, his continued support of the Palestinian terrorist state ( our tax dollars are actually funding a green building project in Gaza-- to make their government offices more friendly to the environment), his visceral hatred for Israel except at fundraisers-- I could continue for weeks.

8. His only success as President came riding the coatails of GW Bush, you know-- the same policies that the left attacked Bush for implementing during his entire tenure as President.

9. If you still need another reason, you're a moron.

Great post. Don't expect the drones to actually refute it.

This guy will go down as the worst president this country has ever seen.

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2012, 09:39:58 AM »
Great post. Don't expect the drones to actually refute it.

This guy will go down as the worst president this country has ever seen.

I already did

I said many of those things will be the reason why people vote for him again


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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2012, 09:19:04 PM »
So, in sum-- many so called Americans hate America or are too stupid to pay attention to the details.

I guess we finally agree on something.

However, this doesn't make up for your support of the ball washing initiative in Africa.

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2012, 08:24:15 AM »
Complaining about the futility of debating with certain people is not debating about why Obama should or shouldn't be elected. 

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Re: It has been 6+ months since I last asked why Obama deserves reelection
« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2012, 08:37:53 AM »
Ok.  Here is the list.  and i will add to it.  But this is off the top of my head at this moment.

1.  ObamaCare
2.  Attempted Cap n Trade
3.  KSM Trial in NYC
4.  Fast N Furious
5.  Solyndra, Beacon Watt, Lightsquared, Spectra, etc
6.  War on Coal
7.  War on Boeing
8.  War on Gibson Guitars
9.  EPA run amok
10.  Stim Bill
11.  Dodd Frank
12.  Radical appointments like Chu, Dunn, Holder, Sunstein, Jones, Lisa Jackson, etc
13.  Sotomayor and Kagan
14.  War on veterans and soldiers by hiking TriCare premiums
15.  Bowing to foreign leaders
16.  World apology tour
17.  Lybia & Egypt disasters
18.  Giving Russia nuke secrets and dismantling out nukes
19.  DOJ out of control
20.  Suing states over voter ID laws and immigration laws
21.  Keystone pipeline.
22.  Drilling moratoriums
23.  Geithner, Summers, Gentsler, Corzine, Liew, Rattner, etc.
24.  27 czars
25.  Incompetent handling of Afghanistan
26.  Rejected Simpson Bowles debt/deficit downgrade
27.  No budget in three years
28.  NLRB out of control
29.  Enhanced and expanded the Patriot Act
30.  NDAA
31.  Can't work with others. 
32.  Issues divisive speeches daily that erodes any chance of progress on key issues.
33.  Wants amnesty for illegals in a second term.