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Title: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: SF1900 on October 18, 2017, 03:12:31 PM
Although the NFL was contemplating the idea of making it a rule to stand for the National Anthem, recent reports suggest that nothing of the sort will happen.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/18/nfl-owners-want-players-to-stand-for-the-national-anthem/

NFL players can continue taking a knee during pre-game renditions of the national anthem, the league’s commissioner announced Wednesday.

Team owners met in Manhattan this week, in part to discuss the controversial protests that have captured the president’s ire and ignited a national debate over free speech, but league honchos ultimately opted not to rule on the touchy subject.

“We’re trying to stay out of politics,” said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell. “What we’re looking to do is get people focused on football.”

Players kneel during the song to bring attention to institutional racism.

The league is working to bring their numbers “down to zero,” Goodell said.

The commissioner said last week that “everyone should stand for the national anthem” but stopped short of issuing a mandate, instead saying owners would huddle with players this week to hash out “an in-season platform” for players to make social-justice statements.


The NFL Players Association union met with management in Manhattan yesterday for chats that Goodell described as “very productive.”

The groups did not discuss whether individual team owners should punish protesting players, according to Goodell.

President Trump, who waged war with the NFL on the issue last month, has said managers should fire “son of a bitch” players who kneel.

Trump has pressured Goodell to institute a rule change.

“They have a rule, you can’t dance in the end zone, you can’t wear pink socks, one guy’s mother had breast cancer and they wouldn’t let him, you can’t do anything! But you’re allowed to sit down for the national anthem,” he said at a fundraiser dinner, where he raised an estimated $5 million for the Republican Party.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Nails on October 18, 2017, 03:18:43 PM
I wish the entire Cowboys team knees, so Jerry Jones is forced to fire every player on the team, then he can hire an entire line up of bums of the street. And they also take a knee.  Nothing but losses or disqualifications by the cowgirls
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: SF1900 on October 18, 2017, 03:19:53 PM
I wish the entire Cowboys team knees, so Jerry Jones is forced to fire every player on the team, then he can hire an entire line up of bums of the street. And they also take a knee.  Nothing but losses or disqualifications by the cowgirls

haha lol!

Roger Gooddell stated that NFL players are not trying to be disrespectful to the flag.

Seems like he is trying to get rating backs up.

Yet, viewership is still down:

Through the first six weeks of the NFL season, total viewership of games is down 7.5 percent, compared with the first six weeks of 2016.

An average of 15 million people watched games for the first six weeks this year, compared with 16.2 million people through Week 6 last season, according to metrics from Nielsen.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Nails on October 18, 2017, 03:29:59 PM
I still watch football , not always and the always are monday night and thursday night games. It's just to much of pussy sport now.   Everything other play is a hold by the Offensive lineman, or a illegal hit , or 15yeard for 2 hand touching the Quarterback to hard. 

Last week a great Jets TD turned to a touch back.   

The NFL is just as shitty now as the NBA, and the NBA has been really shitty for many years , just keep calling bullshit fouls put them on the Freethrow line to catch up and slow momentum down and making exciting
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Gregor on October 18, 2017, 03:32:22 PM
To a non-American, what is puzzling is why it is necessary to play the national anthem at all before a professional football game and why reactions to the anthem need to be analysed as evidence of patriotism or loyalty.  It makes sense to include the national anthem in ceremonies or events of national or military significance, or before a sporting event involving teams from different countries, but it has no obvious relevance to a gladiatorial contest between two teams of highly-paid players who are all from the same country.  And why are the political views of sportsmen being treated as being of any special importance? 
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Nails on October 18, 2017, 03:33:18 PM
Will be great to see what the NBA players do, since 99% of the league is black and they have a rule they all have to stand.   I recall they used to be allowed to wear anything they wanted when they showed up to work , then all the white rich crackers got upset and they forced them young negros to wear suits.


I bet they all stand come season opener
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Hulkotron on October 18, 2017, 03:44:19 PM
To a non-American, what is puzzling is why it is necessary to play the national anthem at all before a professional football game and why reactions to the anthem need to be analysed as evidence of patriotism or loyalty.  It makes sense to include the national anthem in ceremonies or events of national or military significance, or before a sporting event involving teams from different countries, but it has no obvious relevance to a gladiatorial contest between two teams of highly-paid players who are all from the same country.  And why are the political views of sportsmen being treated as being of any special importance? 

Great questions
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2017, 03:45:50 PM
To a non-American, what is puzzling is why it is necessary to play the national anthem at all before a professional football game and why reactions to the anthem need to be analysed as evidence of patriotism or loyalty.  It makes sense to include the national anthem in ceremonies or events of national or military significance, or before a sporting event involving teams from different countries, but it has no obvious relevance to a gladiatorial contest between two teams of highly-paid players who are all from the same country.  And why are the political views of sportsmen being treated as being of any special importance?  
If you are European, what do they play before football (soccer) games? Do they ever play the national Anthem at all?
The playing of the anthem gives some semblance of national unity, when it really is a front.

And Colin being as high profiled as he is, his protest of police brutality became a political and social talking point, due to recent high profiled incidents.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Nails on October 18, 2017, 03:47:36 PM
Go to any stadium most of them keep pouring beer , putting weeiners in buns, pouring hot cheese on nachos and scanning tickets to get into the stadium,  The anthem matters only in the case of the players, not in the case of money in their pockets
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Megalodon on October 18, 2017, 04:00:14 PM
To a non-American, what is puzzling is why it is necessary to play the national anthem at all before a professional football game and why reactions to the anthem need to be analysed as evidence of patriotism or loyalty.  It makes sense to include the national anthem in ceremonies or events of national or military significance, or before a sporting event involving teams from different countries, but it has no obvious relevance to a gladiatorial contest between two teams of highly-paid players who are all from the same country.  And why are the political views of sportsmen being treated as being of any special importance?  

There may be a relationship to being called the National Football League and having symbolism of the American Flag in their logo.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 18, 2017, 04:05:06 PM
If you are European, what do they play before football (soccer) games? Do they ever play the national Anthem at all?
The playing of the anthem gives some semblance of national unity, when it really is a front.

And Colin being as high profiled as he is, his protest of police brutality became a political and social talking point, due to recent high profiled incidents.

And as a result of all the bitching, police enforcement dropped dramatically causing a massive spike in crime which continues to this day. Now the fools are in a position of having to call for more law enforcement, which they can’t do as this would be admitting that their cause is bullshit, and that the only way to keep these shit holes from descending into chaos is aggressive policing.




Chicago Police Street Stops Decrease Dramatically Amid Sinking Morale - The Loop - Chicago - DNAinfo

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160113/loop/chicago-police-street-stops-decrease-dramatically-amid-sinking-morale


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/editorials/ct-edit-chicago-violence-500-homicides-20170926-story.html

Gun violence continues to savage Chicago. Police say that as of early Friday, the city has suffered 507 homicides. More than 2,800 people have been shot, according to a Tribune tally. The pace of killing is down nearly 8 percent from 2016, the most violent year in two decades. The number of shooting victims also has declined.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Parker on October 18, 2017, 05:09:10 PM
 http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/uncle-luke-kaepernick-exposes-nfls-patriotic-hypocrisy-9752954 (http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/uncle-luke-kaepernick-exposes-nfls-patriotic-hypocrisy-9752954)
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: Bevo on October 18, 2017, 08:06:00 PM
I wish the entire Cowboys team knees, so Jerry Jones is forced to fire every player on the team, then he can hire an entire line up of bums of the street. And they also take a knee.  Nothing but losses or disqualifications by the cowgirls


Never happen cause money talks in the end

Players don’t give a shit in the long run if millions of dollars are on the line

And you are a raiders fan, complete garbage of cholo fans and and a shitty team that’s about to move to Vegas
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 18, 2017, 08:40:13 PM
Well...Goodell gets his $40mil per regardless, what does he care that the league and teams take revenue losses. What a joke all based on fake “equality” BS.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: SF1900 on October 18, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/uncle-luke-kaepernick-exposes-nfls-patriotic-hypocrisy-9752954 (http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/uncle-luke-kaepernick-exposes-nfls-patriotic-hypocrisy-9752954)

If Kapernick does sue, 10-to-1, he will win.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: mphgrove on October 18, 2017, 08:54:03 PM
It is a business decision and here is what it boils down to with the various stakeholders:
Employees - easier not to force the issue especialky with a union involved
Advertisers - these generally go with the more "liberal" and "progressive" stand; younger demographics, image of tolerance
Fans - split down the middle more than those on this Board realize, although probably more in favor of forcing the issue than not.  For example, Oakland and San Francisco fans tend to feel very differently about this than do Nashville and Jacksonville fans.

Thus the current business decision, which could change.

Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: jude2 on October 18, 2017, 08:58:09 PM
If Kapernick does sue, 10-to-1, he will win.
In a liberal court, but it might go to the supreme court and he will for sure lose there.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: SF1900 on October 18, 2017, 08:58:55 PM
In a liberal court, but it might go to the supreme court and he will for sure lose there.

Good point.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: rush223 on October 18, 2017, 09:17:24 PM
Look, these players are employees while they are carrying out their duties wearing that companies logo etc.. The owner can at any time tell a player he is to stand or u can beat feet. Period. No 1st amendment when it comes to private employment gentlemen. Arguing 1st amendment and it's wrong and if it went to this court blah blah fuckin blah.                                                                                                   

My favorites now are the racists throwing up Black Power fists. I forgot Trump is the hater. I hope there are some military mates in here to spread a little reality about what our flag is about and their brothers dying for that. For some of you thats what it may take for you to stop watching these idiots that are there making millions black powering your ass and you watch it. Not much difference in telling a fellow military mate to fuck off, that your heroes play football damnit! Boycott the NFL. Period.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: mphgrove on October 18, 2017, 09:45:56 PM
It is a business so it is totally up to the owners to set the guidelines on what they require in their business. Having unionized employees may complicate it a little bit but it really shouldn't because First Amendment does not apply within a business as it does in a public setting (for example, forcing school kids to recite Pledge of Allegiance). Totally up to the owners on what they want to do and any court is likely to back them up whichever way they go.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: irishdave on October 18, 2017, 11:55:26 PM
If you are European, what do they play before football (soccer) games? Do they ever play the national Anthem at all?
The playing of the anthem gives some semblance of national unity, when it really is a front.

And Colin being as high profiled as he is, his protest of police brutality became a political and social talking point, due to recent high profiled incidents.

Lol!!! It shows zero semblance of unity! Are you stupid!?? It's dividing your nation even more. You know white Americans snigger at you behind your back and don't consider you really American. Heck, you're not even African. I would never consider a black Nigerian with an irish accent born here Irish...ever. I see it on tv sometimes where libtards interview some of these Irish "citizens" and have a good old chuckle to myself  ;D
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: irishdave on October 18, 2017, 11:59:00 PM
By the way NFL was an exciting game and I'm sorry to see it go down the tubes because of a few spoiled negros from the ghetto. Poor boys. Making 20m a year or whatever. So oppressed!!! ::)
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: irishdave on October 19, 2017, 12:25:24 AM
Look, these players are employees while they are carrying out their duties wearing that companies logo etc.. The owner can at any time tell a player he is to stand or u can beat feet. Period. No 1st amendment when it comes to private employment gentlemen. Arguing 1st amendment and it's wrong and if it went to this court blah blah fuckin blah.                                                                                                  

My favorites now are the racists throwing up Black Power fists. I forgot Trump is the hater. I hope there are some military mates in here to spread a little reality about what our flag is about and their brothers dying for that. For some of you thats what it may take for you to stop watching these idiots that are there making millions black powering your ass and you watch it. Not much difference in telling a fellow military mate to fuck off, that your heroes play football damnit! Boycott the NFL. Period.

Spot on. You are a disgrace to America if you kneel before your nations flag to protest (especially during work hours). They are traitors to their nation. I wonder what military widows think of all of this? Does it bring back the painful images from the funeral where they're handed the folded flag by their husband's military colleague? Can these wives sue the players responsible? You can sue for anything in America sure.

And nobody can DARE call me a racist. I have a gay black friend. He's not only black but a homo as well. So STFU hippies.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: residue on October 19, 2017, 08:02:34 AM
Spot on. You are a disgrace to America if you kneel before your nations flag to protest (especially during work hours). They are traitors to their nation. I wonder what military widows think of all of this? Does it bring back the painful images from the funeral where they're handed the folded flag by their husband's military colleague? Can these wives sue the players responsible? You can sue for anything in America sure.

And nobody can DARE call me a racist. I have a gay black friend. He's not only black but a homo as well. So STFU hippies.

When someone signs up for the armed forces(correct me if i'm wrong) the pledge the support and defend the constitution, not the flag? The same constitution that supports and defend flag desecration
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 19, 2017, 08:11:13 AM
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Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Joe Pietaro on October 19, 2017, 08:38:13 AM
The NFL Boycott is going to loom even larger after that shill meeting.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: mazrim on October 19, 2017, 08:57:16 AM
Michael Bennett= Dred Scott......according to him.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Joe Pietaro on October 19, 2017, 06:44:07 PM
Michael Bennett= Dred Scott......according to him.

I read articles on that statement from Bennett, who is a race-baiting piece of shit who should rely on his talent on the field to speak for itself. That total fabrication of the non-incident in Las Vegas just goes to show what this scumbag's agenda is.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: AbrahamG on October 19, 2017, 11:30:40 PM
I read articles on that statement from Bennett, who is a race-baiting piece of shit who should rely on his talent on the field to speak for itself. That total fabrication of the non-incident in Las Vegas just goes to show what this scumbag's agenda is.

Typical racist response. 

Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 20, 2017, 06:44:00 PM
Remember when the NFL said last year that viewership was only down because of the election? lol
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 21, 2017, 06:18:25 AM
Remember when the NFL said last year that viewership was only down because of the election? lol

The old school sports were in a state of decline before this whole kneeling crap. Golf and NASCAR are way down too. These “protests” are simply greasing the skids.

The players expected to be indulged and have their asses kissed, but the fans just said “fuck you,” as they were already somewhat unhappy with the product with its high ticket prices and ridiculously long drawn out games.

In a way it mirrors what’s going on in black inner cities. Black lives matter bitched and moaned about the cops. This caused law-enforcement to decrease dramatically. The result has been skyrocketing crime rates. Now what? Same in the NFL. The players protested, the fans didn’t give a shit and found something else to do on Sundays. Now what?
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Pray_4_War on October 21, 2017, 08:08:30 AM
Typical racist response. 



Accusations of racism, very original.

I wonder if any of these chocolate faced twats have read the story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf".  Silly question I know.  African Americans reading, laughable. 

If they had, they would know that if you call everyone a racist eventually people will start ignoring the claim and when the real racists show up people will be so desensitized that they will not give a fuck.

Congratulations.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2017, 08:07:40 AM
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LOL!!!   What a FNG tool. 
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2017, 10:50:07 AM
Ratings will be down even more after today when these fools from the Texans take a knee to not just disrespect the flag even more, but protest the owner (blatant insubordination)
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2017, 11:08:28 AM
Ratings will be down even more after today when these fools from the Texans take a knee to not just disrespect the flag even more, but protest the owner (blatant insubordination)

The NFL is committing suicide by placating all these losers
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: mazrim on October 29, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Ratings will be down even more after today when these fools from the Texans take a knee to not just disrespect the flag even more, but protest the owner (blatant insubordination)
Would lover for him to have stood by what he said and if they "protested" by not playing then void all of their contracts immediately.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 29, 2017, 11:46:09 AM
Would lover for him to have stood by what he said and if they "protested" by not playing then void all of their contracts immediately.

The players know that wouldn't happen right now during the season, they would lose half of their players. After season could be another story but the players have the NFLPA to fight for most of them.

IMO, the only reason why McNair is under fire is because he said to bunch of kids that have who have more than like never heard that saying before. It's a pretty common saying.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Tennisballz on October 29, 2017, 03:22:08 PM
Who is still even watching main stream sports?  Have you all not had enough?  Do something else with your time to better yourselves.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 29, 2017, 04:28:54 PM
Who is still even watching main stream sports?  Have you all not had enough?  Do something else with your time to better yourselves.

Mainly older people who don’t pick up on trends. The only people I ever hear talking about baseball are old broken down pieces of shit. Most sharp people have moved on from this garbage. Why would anybody with half a brain tolerate that shit?

I haven’t watched a single down of football this year and haven’t missed it.

 These idiots are like children throwing a tantrum and nobody caring. So they’re yelling louder.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem
Post by: ESFitness on October 29, 2017, 04:38:08 PM
Will be great to see what the NBA players do, since 99% of the league is black and they have a rule they all have to stand.   I recall they used to be allowed to wear anything they wanted when they showed up to work , then all the white rich crackers got upset and they forced them young negros to wear suits.


I bet they all stand come season opener

Player for the Knicks in the 90s didn't stand. I forget his name. Sad, since I was a Knicks fan
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Joe Pietaro on October 30, 2017, 10:27:45 AM
Just wait until the 2018 season ticket renewal notices go out in the mail. People paid big money for the seats they are sitting in this year and not many want to throw them away. But the ratings are down and it is obvious that there will be a contingent of folks who say, "Fuck you" when their respective favorite teams stand in front of them with their hands out. That's when the league will feel the pinch.
Title: Re: NFL and Anthem - no change in policy - viewership down 7.5% this year
Post by: Yanin on October 30, 2017, 12:24:24 PM
ONLY reason players are kneeling is because if they don't they'll be chastised.. it's no harm to kneel but you defiantly stand out not kneeling if you're black anyway