Author Topic: Military not as dumb as Dems claim? (Read 10122 times)

militarymuscle69 · « **on:** March 16, 2007, 02:02:50 PM »

Today's servicemen and women may not be Ivy Leaguers, but in fact they are better educated than the population at large: reading scores are a full grade higher for enlisted personnel than for their civilian counterparts of the same age.

http://www.rcnv.org/rcnv/archives/2003/militarydemographics.htm

youandme · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2007, 02:14:32 PM »

"A survey of the American military's endlessly compiled and analyzed demographics paints a picture of a fighting force that is anything but a cross section of America"

Brilliant research. Basically the author came to that conclusion while skimming over what exactly?

militarymuscle69 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2007, 02:16:25 PM »

Quote from: youandme on March 16, 2007, 02:14:32 PM

"A survey of the American military's endlessly compiled and analyzed demographics paints a picture of a fighting force that is anything but a cross section of America"

Brilliant research. Basically the author came to that conclusion while skimming over what exactly?

Actually you copied that from the paragraph dealing with race, not education

OzmO · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2007, 02:23:53 PM »

The military isn't dumb.

They have standards that are higher now than 30 years ago.

Any run of the mill idiot cannot just join up.

Camel Jockey · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2007, 02:30:58 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on March 16, 2007, 02:02:50 PM

Today's servicemen and women may not be Ivy Leaguers, but in fact they are better educated than the population at large: reading scores are a full grade higher for enlisted personnel than for their civilian counterparts of the same age.

http://www.rcnv.org/rcnv/archives/2003/militarydemographics.htm

Why are you so defensive bro? No one here said you were dumb or that us servicemen are dumb. Does your false anger drive your opinions?

Straw Man · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2007, 02:43:52 PM »

The original link was from 2003 and I suspect that the composition of the military might have changed a bit since then.

Here's a link from October 2005: http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,78111,00.html

Army Lowers Bar for Recruits

Army Secretary Noel Harvey and Gen. Richard Cody, the vice chief of staff, said Monday that the Army is using looser Defense Department rules that permits it to sign up more high school dropouts and people who score lower on mental-qualification tests, but they denied that this meant it was lowering standards
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maybe the dicipline of the military environment is helps these people to develop the basic skills that they couldn't or wouldn't in the public school system

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2007, 07:57:23 PM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on March 16, 2007, 02:02:50 PM

Today's servicemen and women may not be Ivy Leaguers, but in fact they are better educated than the population at large: reading scores are a full grade higher for enlisted personnel than for their civilian counterparts of the same age.

http://www.rcnv.org/rcnv/archives/2003/militarydemographics.htm

You're really riding Kerry's dumb joke for everything it's worth

Now it's not just Kerry that joked about it, the righty grape vine now has it as the "Dems Claim" Milk it baby, milk it...

240 is Back · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:37:38 PM »

Quote from: Berserker on March 16, 2007, 07:57:23 PM

You're really riding Kerry's dumb joke for everything it's worth

Hey, Bush might be a crazy warmonger.

But Clinton got a blowjob.

OzmO · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:53:35 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 16, 2007, 09:37:38 PM

Hey, Bush might be a crazy warmonger.

But Clinton got a blowjob.

The leader of the most powerful nation on earth and all he got was Monica?

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2007, 09:58:32 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 16, 2007, 09:37:38 PM

Hey, Bush might be a crazy warmonger.

But Clinton got a blowjob.

Didn't Clinton authorize the bombing of a suspected terrorist bomb making facility or something like that and it turned out to be some kind of benign factory? If I remember correctly quite a few innocent people were killed and many suspected Clinton authorized the bombing to deflect attention away from the whole Lewinski mess.

While Clinton is no where near the level of Bush he was by no means an honorable man. I think Clinton is benefiting from the fact that Bush's Presidency has nearly imploded.

240 is Back · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:03:39 PM »

Quote from: ieffinhatecardio on March 16, 2007, 09:58:32 PM

Didn't Clinton authorize the bombing of a suspected terrorist bomb making facility or something like that and it turned out to be some kind of benign factory? If I remember correctly quite a few innocent people were killed and many suspected Clinton authorized the bombing to deflect attention away from the whole Lewinski mess.

While Clinton is no where near the level of Bush he was by no means an honorable man. I think Clinton is benefiting from the fact that Bush's Presidency has nearly imploded.

Clinton was crap. But he avoided big wars and never caved to the military industrial complex.

In 5 years, haliburton will be gone with 1 trillion borrowed US dollars. Bush will be living in paraguay. nation pillaged.

24KT · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:21:02 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on March 16, 2007, 10:03:39 PM

Clinton was crap. But he avoided big wars and never caved to the military industrial complex.

In 5 years, haliburton will be gone with 1 trillion borrowed US dollars. Bush will be living in paraguay. nation pillaged.

Borrowed US dollars? ...that implies they'll repay the money. What are the chances are of that ever happening?

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2007, 10:31:37 PM »

Quote from: jaguarenterprises on March 16, 2007, 10:21:02 PM

Borrowed US dollars? ...that implies they'll repay the money. What are the chances are of that ever happening?

I meant the US borrowed it from China to give it to Haliburton.

Tre · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2007, 01:59:48 AM »

Quote from: OzmO on March 16, 2007, 02:23:53 PM

The military isn't dumb.

They have standards that are higher now than 30 years ago.

Any run of the mill idiot cannot just join up.

There are waivers for everything.

Tre · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2007, 02:00:28 AM »

Quote from: Camel Jockey on March 16, 2007, 02:30:58 PM

Why are you so defensive bro? No one here said you were dumb or that us servicemen are dumb.

I did.

Tre · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2007, 02:02:47 AM »

Quote from: ieffinhatecardio on March 16, 2007, 09:58:32 PM

I think Clinton is benefiting from the fact that Bush's Presidency has nearly imploded.

AMEN.

I've expressed the same opinion. I was anti-Clinton from Day One. But these last few years under Bush have made even the biggest Clinton critics forget all about him. Way to go, W.

Jackass.

Hedgehog · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2007, 08:34:46 AM »

Quote from: militarymuscle69 on March 16, 2007, 02:02:50 PM

Today's servicemen and women may not be Ivy Leaguers, but in fact they are better educated than the population at large: reading scores are a full grade higher for enlisted personnel than for their civilian counterparts of the same age.

http://www.rcnv.org/rcnv/archives/2003/militarydemographics.htm

When did either party claim that the military was dumb?

-Hedge