thing is we can limit gouging and eliminate denial of coverage WITHOUT A SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM.....so why do we need a single payer system other then to give health care everyone on other ppls dimes?
...I can't answer your question because I don't understand your grammar. Sorry.
But I'll answer what I can decypher.
If you are arguing that price gouging should be limited, I've got to ask "Why?"
Why limit the gouging, why not eliminate it? Why do you WANT to put money in the HMOs pocket? It's the doctors; hospitals and pharmacies that treat you, the HMO is just a non-contributing toll collector: a gouger by definition.
If you are arguing that denial of coverage can be eliminated within the for-profit HMO industry you are sorely deluded. Denial of coverage is one of only two methods (the other being gouging) by which HMOs make their profits.
The argument about other "peoples dimes" is also deluded.
The public eventually picks up the dime for all healthcare in the US.
As it stands now, the American public pays approximately twice what France pays per capita:
-France has an all-inclusive system funded by taxes which is rated the best in the world.
-America covers 80% of its population with the 37th best system in the world.
Americans are being ripped off: fact!
It's simple mathematics:
Cost to the public = (Cost of care) + (HMO overheads) + (HMO profits)
Why pay the HMOs? They don't provide any care. If the public just bunched together and went to the care providers (doctors; hospitals; pharmacies) directly they could change this eqation to:
Cost to the public = Cost of care
That's all single payer is.
Now imagine how low the premiums wold be if you added in monopoly pricing structures. sin the taxpayer monopoly to guarantee the lowest possible costs: stopping even the doctors and Big Pharma from gouging... then simply roll those premiums into taxes so everyone is forced to pay their fair share.
The 36 countries above America in the ranking of healthcare systems ALL have full inclusion and ALL have single payer.
This entire argument is moronic. Just steal the French system.
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