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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Positive Bodybuilding Discussion & Talk => Natural Bodybuilding => Topic started by: Stebeds on May 25, 2008, 01:52:22 PM
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A while ago I was reading about gaining/losing weight and I read that you should ideally be putting on about 2 pounds per week, without steroids. Same with diets and losing weight etc.
So with that in mind, I worked out, I weigh only 149 pounds now (at the very beginning of starting weights!) and I have seen guys who are 6' 2" and 220 pounds - they are huge guys, I am about 5" 11' so, to play it safe I set a target of 220 pounds.
I want to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds. All this is theoretical OK, I know a 5" 11' guy would look probably too big if he were 220 pounds...
So then I want to gain 70 pounds. All this weight has to be muscle!
Heres the question - if its possible to put on 2 pounds a week, it would only take 35 weeks to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds and yet... thats impossible!
How long, without steroids, does it take someone to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds?
Or 150 pounds to 180 pounds? If I was 180 pounds I would be like Brad Pitt... if I were 220 pounds I would be like Ron Coleman... I wanna just get bigger really like everyone here.
Thing is - 2 pounds a week x 35 weeks = 70 pounds... what am I missing?
So even if I said 52 weeks, this time next year I could be 220 pounds? Hahaha! Imagine it!
Whats the normal amount to put on in one year? If you eat properly, sleep properly and do a decent range of exercises? Not 2 pounds a week surely, thats over 100 pounds a year = no way.
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A while ago I was reading about gaining/losing weight and I read that you should ideally be putting on about 2 pounds per week, without steroids. Same with diets and losing weight etc.
So with that in mind, I worked out, I weigh only 149 pounds now (at the very beginning of starting weights!) and I have seen guys who are 6' 2" and 220 pounds - they are huge guys, I am about 5" 11' so, to play it safe I set a target of 220 pounds.
I want to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds. All this is theoretical OK, I know a 5" 11' guy would look probably too big if he were 220 pounds...
So then I want to gain 70 pounds. All this weight has to be muscle!
Heres the question - if its possible to put on 2 pounds a week, it would only take 35 weeks to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds and yet... thats impossible!
How long, without steroids, does it take someone to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds?
Or 150 pounds to 180 pounds? If I was 180 pounds I would be like Brad Pitt... if I were 220 pounds I would be like Ron Coleman... I wanna just get bigger really like everyone here.
Thing is - 2 pounds a week x 35 weeks = 70 pounds... what am I missing?
So even if I said 52 weeks, this time next year I could be 220 pounds? Hahaha! Imagine it!
Whats the normal amount to put on in one year? If you eat properly, sleep properly and do a decent range of exercises? Not 2 pounds a week surely, thats over 100 pounds a year = no way.
Going from 150-220 is going to take years. Sure at first you might be able to put on 2 pounds of muscle in a week, but this will quickly slow down. At a certain point the gains will slow down, and even stop. At this point you need to start playing around with training and diet. Eating and training properly will not be the issue, but you will have to eat and train OUTSTANDINGLY to make gains once you've been training for a while.
One more thing to remember is that most likely you will not be putting on LEAN muscle. Unless you are genetically gifted and have a super diet, you will gain fat while gaining weight. As a matter of fact many people think the only way to put on muscle is to put on fat at the same time.
Not to put you off in any way, but it will take a lot of hard hard work and dedication to get to a lean 220 pounds.
Good luck
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A while ago I was reading about gaining/losing weight and I read that you should ideally be putting on about 2 pounds per week, without steroids. Same with diets and losing weight etc.
So with that in mind, I worked out, I weigh only 149 pounds now (at the very beginning of starting weights!) and I have seen guys who are 6' 2" and 220 pounds - they are huge guys, I am about 5" 11' so, to play it safe I set a target of 220 pounds.
I want to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds. All this is theoretical OK, I know a 5" 11' guy would look probably too big if he were 220 pounds...
So then I want to gain 70 pounds. All this weight has to be muscle!
Heres the question - if its possible to put on 2 pounds a week, it would only take 35 weeks to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds and yet... thats impossible!
How long, without steroids, does it take someone to go from 150 pounds to 220 pounds?
Or 150 pounds to 180 pounds? If I was 180 pounds I would be like Brad Pitt... if I were 220 pounds I would be like Ron Coleman... I wanna just get bigger really like everyone here.
Thing is - 2 pounds a week x 35 weeks = 70 pounds... what am I missing?
So even if I said 52 weeks, this time next year I could be 220 pounds? Hahaha! Imagine it!
Whats the normal amount to put on in one year? If you eat properly, sleep properly and do a decent range of exercises? Not 2 pounds a week surely, thats over 100 pounds a year = no way.
Yes, it's possible to gain 2 pounds a week.... but the thing to bear in mind is that is based on a good growth regime. Then after say 8 weeks of that growth cycle, you would then look to maintain as much as possible the gains you have made. You simply can't keep growing all the time, the body will adapt and plateau.
As a natural your game plan should always be: 2 steps forward, one step back. Simply explained, when you are training at your hardest and eating accordingly you gain 2 steps forward. Once you come off that training regime you will not be able to sustain all of the gains you have made, but you will still look to hold onto a good portion, hence 1 step back.
Hope that made sense.
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Yes, its a flight of fantasy to suggest "150 to 220 pounds in 52 weeks" but thats well below the 2 pounds a week thing everyone says.
In the beginning... I like that because after 1 month, a skinny guy (150LB) can look at least not so skinny, I only did about 10 workouts last time round and it shows... I am on the unflavoured whey protein - and lots of it! Think I had about 60 grams in the last 2.5 hours, yummy!
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You are unlikely to add 70 lbs of muscle if you train for the rest of your life and remain natural.Don't worry too much about setting weight targets-it's how you look not what the scales say that is important.
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I weigh 10 st 7 lbs (147 lbs) at the moment so I worked out a set of
figures ranging from 0.1 lb a week to 2.0 lb a week in gains over a 52
week period.
This covers all bases. If I am a freak I would only put on 0.1 lb a week.
Likewise putting on 2 lbs a week again is freaky (too much for 52 weeks,
see the figures)
So maybe around 0.5 lbs a week is what I should aim for? That would be
10 st 7 lbs to 12 st 4 lbs in 12 months. This doesn't seem unreasonable
to me.
0.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 5.20 LBS = 0.37 ST = Weight @ 10.87 ST
0.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 10.4 LBS = 0.74 ST = Weight @ 11.24 ST
0.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 15.6 LBS = 1.11 ST = Weight @ 11.61 ST
0.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 20.8 LBS = 1.49 ST = Weight @ 12.00 ST
0.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 26.0 LBS = 1.86 ST = Weight @ 12.36 ST
0.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 31.2 LBS = 2.23 ST = Weight @ 12.73 ST
0.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 36.4 LBS = 2.60 ST = Weight @ 13.10 ST
0.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 41.6 LBS = 2.97 ST = Weight @ 13.47 ST
0.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 46.8 LBS = 3.34 ST = Weight @ 13.84 ST
1.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 52.0 LBS = 3.71 ST = Weight @ 14.20 ST
1.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 57.2 LBS = 4.09 ST = Weight @ 14.59 ST
1.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 62.4 LBS = 4.46 ST = Weight @ 14.96 ST
1.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 67.6 LBS = 4.83 ST = Weight @ 15.33 ST
1.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 72.8 LBS = 5.20 ST = Weight @ 15.70 ST
1.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 78.0 LBS = 5.57 ST = Weight @ 16.07 ST
1.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 83.2 LBS = 5.94 ST = Weight @ 16.44 ST
1.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 88.4 LBS = 6.31 ST = Weight @ 16.81 ST
1.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 93.6 LBS = 6.69 ST = Weight @ 17.19 ST
1.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 98.8 LBS = 7.06 ST = Weight @ 17.56 ST
2.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 104 LBS = 7.43 ST = Weight @ 17.93 ST
These charts work the same for anyone...
0.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +5.20 LBS (+0.37 ST)
0.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +10.4 LBS (+0.74 ST)
0.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +15.6 LBS (+1.11 ST)
0.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +20.8 LBS (+1.49 ST)
0.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +26.0 LBS (+1.86 ST)
0.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +31.2 LBS (+2.23 ST)
0.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +36.4 LBS (+2.60 ST)
0.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +41.6 LBS (+2.97 ST)
0.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +46.8 LBS (+3.34 ST)
1.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +52.0 LBS (+3.71 ST)
1.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +57.2 LBS (+4.09 ST)
1.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +62.4 LBS (+4.46 ST)
1.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +67.6 LBS (+4.83 ST)
1.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +72.8 LBS (+5.20 ST)
1.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +78.0 LBS (+5.57 ST)
1.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +83.2 LBS (+5.94 ST)
1.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +88.4 LBS (+6.31 ST)
1.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +93.6 LBS (+6.69 ST)
1.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +98.8 LBS (+7.06 ST)
2.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = + 104 LBS (+7.43 ST)
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I weigh 10 st 7 lbs (147 lbs) at the moment so I worked out a set of
figures ranging from 0.1 lb a week to 2.0 lb a week in gains over a 52
week period.
This covers all bases. If I am a freak I would only put on 0.1 lb a week.
Likewise putting on 2 lbs a week again is freaky (too much for 52 weeks,
see the figures)
So maybe around 0.5 lbs a week is what I should aim for? That would be
10 st 7 lbs to 12 st 4 lbs in 12 months. This doesn't seem unreasonable
to me.
0.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 5.20 LBS = 0.37 ST = Weight @ 10.87 ST
0.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 10.4 LBS = 0.74 ST = Weight @ 11.24 ST
0.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 15.6 LBS = 1.11 ST = Weight @ 11.61 ST
0.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 20.8 LBS = 1.49 ST = Weight @ 12.00 ST
0.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 26.0 LBS = 1.86 ST = Weight @ 12.36 ST
0.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 31.2 LBS = 2.23 ST = Weight @ 12.73 ST
0.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 36.4 LBS = 2.60 ST = Weight @ 13.10 ST
0.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 41.6 LBS = 2.97 ST = Weight @ 13.47 ST
0.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 46.8 LBS = 3.34 ST = Weight @ 13.84 ST
1.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 52.0 LBS = 3.71 ST = Weight @ 14.20 ST
1.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 57.2 LBS = 4.09 ST = Weight @ 14.59 ST
1.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 62.4 LBS = 4.46 ST = Weight @ 14.96 ST
1.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 67.6 LBS = 4.83 ST = Weight @ 15.33 ST
1.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 72.8 LBS = 5.20 ST = Weight @ 15.70 ST
1.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 78.0 LBS = 5.57 ST = Weight @ 16.07 ST
1.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 83.2 LBS = 5.94 ST = Weight @ 16.44 ST
1.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 88.4 LBS = 6.31 ST = Weight @ 16.81 ST
1.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 93.6 LBS = 6.69 ST = Weight @ 17.19 ST
1.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 98.8 LBS = 7.06 ST = Weight @ 17.56 ST
2.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = 104 LBS = 7.43 ST = Weight @ 17.93 ST
These charts work the same for anyone...
0.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +5.20 LBS (+0.37 ST)
0.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +10.4 LBS (+0.74 ST)
0.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +15.6 LBS (+1.11 ST)
0.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +20.8 LBS (+1.49 ST)
0.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +26.0 LBS (+1.86 ST)
0.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +31.2 LBS (+2.23 ST)
0.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +36.4 LBS (+2.60 ST)
0.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +41.6 LBS (+2.97 ST)
0.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +46.8 LBS (+3.34 ST)
1.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +52.0 LBS (+3.71 ST)
1.1 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +57.2 LBS (+4.09 ST)
1.2 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +62.4 LBS (+4.46 ST)
1.3 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +67.6 LBS (+4.83 ST)
1.4 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +72.8 LBS (+5.20 ST)
1.5 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +78.0 LBS (+5.57 ST)
1.6 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +83.2 LBS (+5.94 ST)
1.7 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +88.4 LBS (+6.31 ST)
1.8 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +93.6 LBS (+6.69 ST)
1.9 LBS a week x 52 weeks = +98.8 LBS (+7.06 ST)
2.0 LBS a week x 52 weeks = + 104 LBS (+7.43 ST)
bodybuilding is not mathmatics.
Hope this helps.
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Train,eat,sleep,repeat :-\
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BodyBuilding is not mathematics I know but those charts are just to see, if you put on X amount on average then you can easily see what one year of training will give you - doesn't matter about what the training even is, in fact the charts do not even need to apply to bodybuilding, they apply if you just want to put on fat but - who in their right mind would do that, lol. Me a few years back when I was 9 St 7 Lbs but not now. I have a little bit of flab round my belly and I am only 10St 12Lbs now but... I sure don't need any more fat! Can always be run off with 4 weeks of cardio, although its damn efficient fat (hard to get rid of which is actually a good thing body-wise, assuming you are not too fat to start with)
OK enough of the bullshit...
I am well on target, heres the full story...
April/May/June 2006 I weighed 133 Pounds! (9 St 7 Lbs). This is the very first time I so much as touched a bar or bell. This is the first time i did a sit up and guess what - I could not even sit up once, now I am no doctor but that is f**king atrocious, just extremely unhealthy... but I kept at it and saw my muscles appearing by the week... I only did 3 months or whatever, maybe less, then I had my appendix out and just never took up the weights again, until now...
August 2006 I had my appendix out and stopped doing weights. I had gone from 133 pounds to 147 pounds in 3 months. IMO if you can go from being a skinny beggar (133 pounds) to 147 pounds in 3 months and see your muscles, feel the strength, need another 5-10-15-20 Kg on the bar etc... you have no worries, all these skinny people - have they ever TRIED to do weights ever in their entire lifetime? I never did! I thought big guys were big because they spent 8 hours a day in the gym... oh what?! My workouts of 6 reps x 3 sets don't even add up to 8 minutes a week nevermind 8 hours a day... it shows how mis-educated I was. I had no clue why or how muscly people got that way! Then you find Whey Protein and it all comes together - EAT LOADS OF WHEY PROTEIN!
So I gained 14 pounds in 3 months, about. I dunno how long I was doing weights for... can't be more than 3 months... this is about 4.5 pounds a month gained - which is not good enough, the "benchmark" so to speak, what I aim for, is 2 lbs a week.
I always considered myself to be a struggler when it comes to gaining weight until I realized I never excersized, or ate enough.
Fast forward to now (June 2008), about 10 days ago I started doing weights again. I could do 2 or 3 reps with the weight I used to do 6 reps with, but didn't take any weight off and overdid it a bit. My arms ached for 4 days - I felt like shit and got a little worried, had a migraine at one point too, I intended to overdo it yeah but only to rip my muscles, not to half nuke them!!
Now, they eventually healed and you know what - even after one workout, I feel stronger.
Now I weigh 10 St 12 Lbs and have put on 2 pounds in the last 7 days, with all things being equal (weighed myself at the same time of day each time)
Every pound counts when you're as thin as me. Currently 5' 10" and 152 lbs.
Lets see where I am in 6 months - without steroids (I don't want a fat neck, or anger!)
If I aim for 152 to 192 lbs in 6 months, thats +40 pounds which is roughly 1.5 pounds a week.
If you read this whole post and want 15 minutes of your life back, tough shit m8. :P
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BodyBuilding is not mathematics I know but those charts are just to see, if you put on X amount on average then you can easily see what one year of training will give you - doesn't matter about what the training even is, in fact the charts do not even need to apply to bodybuilding, they apply if you just want to put on fat but - who in their right mind would do that, lol. Me a few years back when I was 9 St 7 Lbs but not now. I have a little bit of flab round my belly and I am only 10St 12Lbs now but... I sure don't need any more fat! Can always be run off with 4 weeks of cardio, although its damn efficient fat (hard to get rid of which is actually a good thing body-wise, assuming you are not too fat to start with)
OK enough of the bullshit...
I am well on target, heres the full story...
April/May/June 2006 I weighed 133 Pounds! (9 St 7 Lbs). This is the very first time I so much as touched a bar or bell. This is the first time i did a sit up and guess what - I could not even sit up once, now I am no doctor but that is f**king atrocious, just extremely unhealthy... but I kept at it and saw my muscles appearing by the week... I only did 3 months or whatever, maybe less, then I had my appendix out and just never took up the weights again, until now...
August 2006 I had my appendix out and stopped doing weights. I had gone from 133 pounds to 147 pounds in 3 months. IMO if you can go from being a skinny beggar (133 pounds) to 147 pounds in 3 months and see your muscles, feel the strength, need another 5-10-15-20 Kg on the bar etc... you have no worries, all these skinny people - have they ever TRIED to do weights ever in their entire lifetime? I never did! I thought big guys were big because they spent 8 hours a day in the gym... oh what?! My workouts of 6 reps x 3 sets don't even add up to 8 minutes a week nevermind 8 hours a day... it shows how mis-educated I was. I had no clue why or how muscly people got that way! Then you find Whey Protein and it all comes together - EAT LOADS OF WHEY PROTEIN!
So I gained 14 pounds in 3 months, about. I dunno how long I was doing weights for... can't be more than 3 months... this is about 4.5 pounds a month gained - which is not good enough, the "benchmark" so to speak, what I aim for, is 2 lbs a week.
I always considered myself to be a struggler when it comes to gaining weight until I realized I never excersized, or ate enough.
Fast forward to now (June 2008), about 10 days ago I started doing weights again. I could do 2 or 3 reps with the weight I used to do 6 reps with, but didn't take any weight off and overdid it a bit. My arms ached for 4 days - I felt like shit and got a little worried, had a migraine at one point too, I intended to overdo it yeah but only to rip my muscles, not to half nuke them!!
Now, they eventually healed and you know what - even after one workout, I feel stronger.
Now I weigh 10 St 12 Lbs and have put on 2 pounds in the last 7 days, with all things being equal (weighed myself at the same time of day each time)
Every pound counts when you're as thin as me. Currently 5' 10" and 152 lbs.
Lets see where I am in 6 months - without steroids (I don't want a fat neck, or anger!)
If I aim for 152 to 192 lbs in 6 months, thats +40 pounds which is roughly 1.5 pounds a week.
If you read this whole post and want 15 minutes of your life back, tough shit m8. :P
You think too much and you write too much. You could have already added 2 pounds if you stopped posting here.
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DonkeyKong
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Hehe...
DonkeyKong
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At least i don't claim gaining 2 pounds per week on some stupid mathematical experiment. :-*
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Classic example of people over-complicating things ::)
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Maybe you're over-complicating things when all the chart shows is what you'll gain if you gain "X" amount per week on average. Don't tell me you never weigh yourself? If you do then you do know what you're gaining per week on average - you know because you weigh yourself - therefore you can refer to that chart to see where you'll be IF you carry on gaining at the rate you have for say, the last 4 weeks.
It wasn't me "claiming to gain 2 lbs from some mathmatical formula" really.
I gained 2 lbs without that formula dude!
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Maybe you're over-complicating things when all the chart shows is what you'll gain if you gain "X" amount per week on average. Don't tell me you never weigh yourself? If you do then you do know what you're gaining per week on average - you know because you weigh yourself - therefore you can refer to that chart to see where you'll be IF you carry on gaining at the rate you have for say, the last 4 weeks.
It wasn't me "claiming to gain 2 lbs from some mathmatical formula" really.
I gained 2 lbs without that formula dude!
I never weigh myself.
It absolutely interesting how much i weigh. i lift, have fun, have a good diet and build up muscle going along.
You're only gonna end up in frustration if you are weighing yourself three times a day and end up not gaining 70 pounds of muscle in less than one year.
It's impossible, even on steroids, hgh, insulin and whatever.
You will either turn out superfat or nothing. If you gain 20 pounds of lean muscle mass in one year, you are a very lucky guy.
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What is your age roundabout?
Trying to see how you can pull of
70 pounds.
For example
In 8th grade I was around 140
In my 30's I'm 230
It took ALOT but I gained 60 pounds in a year and a half
but I was in a bad accident and was down from 210 and went to 170
and could not walk.
I'm now at 230 but prob at 15 percent body fat
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What is your age roundabout?
Trying to see how you can pull of
70 pounds.
For example
In 8th grade I was around 140
In my 30's I'm 230
It took ALOT but I gained 60 pounds in a year and a half
but I was in a bad accident and was down from 210 and went to 170
and could not walk.
I'm now at 230 but prob at 15 percent body fat
natural?
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i gained maybe 0.5~0.7kilos of muscle last year, most of it to my back and legs
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What is your age roundabout?
Trying to see how you can pull of
70 pounds.
For example
In 8th grade I was around 140
In my 30's I'm 230
It took ALOT but I gained 60 pounds in a year and a half
but I was in a bad accident and was down from 210 and went to 170
and could not walk.
I'm now at 230 but prob at 15 percent body fat
What donkey said... naturally?
I only aim for gaining 70 lbs because why aim for any less?
I won't be disappointed if I only gain a bit.
Its right what donkey said though about even weighing yourself... I am only about 11st now but I look in the mirror and can see, like if I cross my arms, I have got bigger theres no doubt about that.
Its also true when you're a skinny bastard like me @ what... 155 lbs, when you gain 5 lbs you REALLY notice it because you added a considerable percentage of your own bodyweight there - 14lbs added to 155lbs man means a skinny wretch turns into a kinda well-defined person! Still a skinny mofo yeah but he is catching up!
Weighing yourself can be inaccurate if say, you'r losing fat as well as gaining muscle - you're then gaining more than you think, which is of course the best scenario, hehe.
So you reckon stop bothering about weight... do some killer workouts for the next 6 months and see what I weigh in 6 months... thats actually a cracking idea... I have always got my mirror! Its not vanity though its only to keep myself in check, thats my defence anyway.
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Set up some small range achievable goals,and keep the 70 pounds as your long range goal.
No natural or even a guy using gear is gonna` add 70 pounds of muscle in 35 weeks.
In the beginning,gains come fast then you plateau and they level off and it`s a battle at times to gain an ounce of muscle.
Be patient and read all you can about bodybuilding for beginners.
Good luck.
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Set up some small range achievable goals,and keep the 70 pounds as your long range goal.
No natural or even a guy using gear is gonna` add 70 pounds of muscle in 35 weeks.
In the beginning,gains come fast then you plateau and they level off and it`s a battle at times to gain an ounce of muscle.
Be patient and read all you can about bodybuilding for beginners.
Good luck.
The plateau thing though - what if you have a long rest like 1 month, then take up weights again? Isn't the sole cause of a "plateau" the fact that your muscles become "too" accustomed to the stress? Its naturally what muscles will do, but the point is always to add weight? I don't think its just a case of adding weight and you need a long rest, even... oh god... shrink a little... but then 1 month later do a killer workout, aching muscles for 1 week = HUGE gains.
Its only a theory, unless what I am talking about is well known to stop the plateau?
I gained 4 lbs in 2 weeks first 2 weeks then gained really nothing the next week, my muscles seemed to adapt so fast, but they became a lot stronger and a lot bigger in comparison with their own size, on that first workout - my muscles ached for 1 week!
Surely thats the key - aching muscles... no pain no gain and all that... how to avoid the plateau though, I say QUIT workin out so freaking much! Then boom, shock yourself once more and take it to the next level.
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GEEZUS.................t ake up jogging or checkers for christs sake!! :)
You are clueless.
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You are clueless.
Thanks, that really helps.
I guess its always easier to just quickly insult someone, rather than actually help.
Not too sure how me being clueless fits in when I am only saying whats happened for me personally re: the plateau.
OK so my theory is, you can gain more muscle mass by resting 1 month as opposed to doing the same muscle every 48 hours, so the 1 month rest wipes out the plateau completely, tell me why thats wrong?
I can't be wrong though dude if I am talking from personal experience, its like you telling me I didn't go shopping yesterday when I did.
Maybe this forum just ain't here to be a resource.
There is plenty of info here:
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/bbinfo.php?page=PlateauBusting
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People here have offered you good advice and you still dispute it.
Sorry,but you have way too much to l;earn and it would take volumes to write it all out and then you would still cling to your inept beleifs anyway so why bother trying?
Good luck dude!!
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People here have offered you good advice and you still dispute it.
Sorry,but you have way too much to l;earn and it would take volumes to write it all out and then you would still cling to your inept beleifs anyway so why bother trying?
Good luck dude!!
Don't think about it to much.
Not long, and Stebeds will be fat and then he'll realize how dumb he was.
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You think you'll get fat from a 1 month rest? Well then I would just do cardio FFS. I have never been fat. I have lost fat over the last 4 weeks, since starting training again. If I got fat easy... why am I always banging on about gaining weight?! I barely do gain weight, but I have gained half a stone in the last month whilst losing some fat, so its all going good. I read the third post by nzmusclemonster which is the first mention of a plateau and I am not even disputing it "carrying on with my own ideas" etc... amazes me how things turn nasty so easy around here, but then half the people are pumped full of testotserone so I dunno man, have a f**king spliff or something.
If you think I came here to dispute people who, provably from their own pictures, have been there and done it and now look huge - WTF! Yes, thats why I registered here - I registered here because I don't want to know anything about bodybuilding. ::)
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You think you'll get fat from a 1 month rest? Well then I would just do cardio FFS. I have never been fat. I have lost fat over the last 4 weeks, since starting training again. If I got fat easy... why am I always banging on about gaining weight?! I barely do gain weight, but I have gained half a stone in the last month whilst losing some fat, so its all going good. I read the third post by nzmusclemonster which is the first mention of a plateau and I am not even disputing it "carrying on with my own ideas" etc... amazes me how things turn nasty so easy around here, but then half the people are pumped full of testotserone so I dunno man, have a f**king spliff or something.
If you think I came here to dispute people who, provably from their own pictures, have been there and done it and now look huge - WTF! Yes, thats why I registered here - I registered here because I don't want to know anything about bodybuilding. ::)
meltdown.
Hint: You cannot build 70lb of muscle in 30 weeks.
If you could, we would all be Mr Olympia. Hope this helps.
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You think you'll get fat from a 1 month rest? Well then I would just do cardio FFS. I have never been fat. I have lost fat over the last 4 weeks, since starting training again. If I got fat easy... why am I always banging on about gaining weight?! I barely do gain weight, but I have gained half a stone in the last month whilst losing some fat, so its all going good. I read the third post by nzmusclemonster which is the first mention of a plateau and I am not even disputing it "carrying on with my own ideas" etc... amazes me how things turn nasty so easy around here, but then half the people are pumped full of testotserone so I dunno man, have a f**king spliff or something.
If you think I came here to dispute people who, provably from their own pictures, have been there and done it and now look huge - WTF! Yes, thats why I registered here - I registered here because I don't want to know anything about bodybuilding. ::)
Relax, too much stressing out will raise your cortisol levels and you will become catabolic. Can't gain 70lbs in 35weeks if your catabolic...
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Relax, too much stressing out will raise your cortisol levels and you will become catabolic. Can't gain 70lbs in 35weeks if your catabolic...
lol!
Gaining 70lbs in 30 weeks is VERY easy!
gaining 70lbs muscle in 30 weeks is impossible, even with all the roids, hgh, insulin and food you could have in the world.
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lol!
Gaining 70lbs in 30 weeks is VERY easy!
gaining 70lbs muscle in 30 weeks is impossible, even with all the roids, hgh, insulin and food you could have in the world.
LMAO
I suppose you could try wheat grass everyday! I heard it worked wonders for Lee Priest!
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Hehe, yes the only people who gain 2 lbs a week are liars selling their own "magic" guide.
Well I am not selling any guide, but on average I am gaining 1 pound every 4 days, which is far beyond what I ever expected, it wasn't like this last time round, I think because I have doubled up on my protein intake this time its really making all the difference, it is THE difference between being stuck and being able to gain weight.
I can even feel my muscles bulging out, rubbing against my side etc and its only been a month of workouts. What is even more remarkable is, I have only done 3 excersizes: crunches (once or twice only), curls (maybe 4 or 5 times) and push ups (maybe 4 or 5 times).
In the last 30 days I have gone from 147 lbs to 155 lbs = 8 pounds.
So I am gaining 8 pounds a month or 2 lb a week, honestly, yeah that might not all be muscle, I accept that, but I look bigger in the mirror and feel stronger, have added weight to my bar, have gone through almost 2 tubs (2000g) of Whey Protein in the last 4 weeks... I am catching you guys up and you won't be able to take the piss out of my skinny frame anymore! ;D
Well its funny but no one here ever does critisize anyone for being a lightweight, which is I guess a sign that people here are genuine on the whole, despite the banter and piss taking... well maybe I am clueless but isn't that why I am here annoying/asking you lot stuff?
You know I wouldn't dare say this to you in real life, lol. But I do respect anyone who can get into the shape most of you guys are in... I started off wanting to be as built as Brad Pitt but I am not sure now, I want to be bigger than that... this stuff is an addiction, I want to look like a hero! Like those Roman statues of their "gods"
How many people actually look like this... perfect... not many...
http://www.francoermarmista.com/statue/roman_man_statue.jpg
Look how defined he is, every muscle is in exact proportion, etc.
I believe these Roman gods were probably fat lazy knackers who just chopped off the heads of about 20 sculpters before some guy chipped out one that did look like a god/hero. These Roman guys didn't look like this FFS.
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Hehe, yes the only people who gain 2 lbs a week are liars selling their own "magic" guide.
Well I am not selling any guide, but on average I am gaining 1 pound every 4 days, which is far beyond what I ever expected, it wasn't like this last time round, I think because I have doubled up on my protein intake this time its really making all the difference, it is THE difference between being stuck and being able to gain weight.
I can even feel my muscles bulging out, rubbing against my side etc and its only been a month of workouts. What is even more remarkable is, I have only done 3 excersizes: crunches (once or twice only), curls (maybe 4 or 5 times) and push ups (maybe 4 or 5 times).
In the last 30 days I have gone from 147 lbs to 155 lbs = 8 pounds.
So I am gaining 8 pounds a month or 2 lb a week, honestly, yeah that might not all be muscle, I accept that, but I look bigger in the mirror and feel stronger, have added weight to my bar, have gone through almost 2 tubs (2000g) of Whey Protein in the last 4 weeks... I am catching you guys up and you won't be able to take the piss out of my skinny frame anymore! ;D
Well its funny but no one here ever does critisize anyone for being a lightweight, which is I guess a sign that people here are genuine on the whole, despite the banter and piss taking... well maybe I am clueless but isn't that why I am here annoying/asking you lot stuff?
You know I wouldn't dare say this to you in real life, lol. But I do respect anyone who can get into the shape most of you guys are in... I started off wanting to be as built as Brad Pitt but I am not sure now, I want to be bigger than that... this stuff is an addiction, I want to look like a hero! Like those Roman statues of their "gods"
How many people actually look like this... perfect... not many...
http://www.francoermarmista.com/statue/roman_man_statue.jpg
Look how defined he is, every muscle is in exact proportion, etc.
I believe these Roman gods were probably fat lazy knackers who just chopped off the heads of about 20 sculpters before some guy chipped out one that did look like a god/hero. These Roman guys didn't look like this FFS.
Meltdown......
but seriously...get on the juice if you want to get big quick...or drink 14 litres of olive oil a day like dw
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Why is Adonix trolling the board?
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under the best circumstances the human body can only make 1 pound of muscle a week, considering that no one gains 52 pounds of muscle in a year goes to show you, under the BEST circumstances, without steroids, and you can lose as much fat as you want, not only 2 pounds just move so much, its all about calories, then you can be a genetic freak and get jacked in only 7 months ;D
Epic digging up old threads to up post count
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digging up old threads? why are you on here then, I don't need to "up my post count" I actually have a LIFE
Then why are you digging up old threads
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because I wanted to answer the person
Epic newbie to GetBig...noone is allowed help each other here..everything must be sarcasm
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oh so thats how things go? no wonder everyone is such an asshole lol, ok I'll be sarcastic.............
Thank you! You will feel much better after this!
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under the best circumstances the human body can only make 1 pound of muscle a week, considering that no one gains 52 pounds of muscle in a year goes to show you, under the BEST circumstances, without steroids, and you can lose as much fat as you want, not only 2 pounds just move so much, its all about calories, then you can be a genetic freak and get jacked in only 7 months ;D
He has been told this many times before in this thread.
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I am just trying to get closer to 5000 posts.... ;D