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what's public opinion on trumpton starting a trade war with your closest allies? surely this type of fking with free trade and market forces is about as socialist as it gets....i thought it would be the democrats(if anyone) doing this type of thing.
the US under trump is becoming more and more isolationist , withdrawing from the climate control pact, withdrawing from the iran deal...and now starting a trade war with it's allies.
what the deal? does the US now believe it's reached such a level of military and economic power that it no longer needs any allies?
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the US under trump is becoming more and more isolationist ,
Thank God!
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good point :)
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You bitch when we invade, you bitch when we withdraw.
Just face it... you're obsessed with our greatness.
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i think trump's isolationist economic policies are closer to marxist theory than anything i'd ever support.
i'm enjoying what's happening. just wondered what the public view in the US is
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the US under trump is becoming more and more isolationist , withdrawing from the climate control pact, withdrawing from the iran deal...and now starting a trade war with it's allies.
2 out of 3 was warranted. The last not so much, imo. We will see. Last time this came up not much really happened. If it continues for awhile it is not a good idea/plan.
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what's public opinion on trumpton starting a trade war with your closest allies? surely this type of fking with free trade and market forces is about as socialist as it gets....i thought it would be the democrats(if anyone) doing this type of thing.
the US under trump is becoming more and more isolationist , withdrawing from the climate control pact, withdrawing from the iran deal...and now starting a trade war with it's allies.
what the deal? does the US now believe it's reached such a level of military and economic power that it no longer needs any allies?
Obviously you're forgetting that Trump has a "very good brain and has said a lot of things"
We won the trade war a few days after we started it. It was very easy. Just like Trump said it would be.
Anything else you read about it is fake news
The Wall was built too and so far it's stopped over 650 million illegal aliens from pouring into our country and taking jobs away from hard working American rapists, drug dealers criminals
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I tend to agree and think the current hefty tariffs are not good for the US economy.
Of course we just got some impressive economic numbers, so maybe Trump knows something the rest don't.
I don't often agree with Trump's policies, but, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
He doesn't
He actually knows less than the average person.
Gary Cohn tried to explain to him how the Post Office works but Trump didn't understand
John Kelly reportedly called him an idiot when it because obvious to him that Trump had no clue what DACA was
Of course Rex Tillerson called him a fucking moron due to his total lack of knowledge (or ability to learn) about foreign relations
Just last week we learned that Trump asked Bill Gates on two separate occasion if there was any difference between HIV and HPV
When speaking he often seems to forget what he's talking about midway through a sentence. Even better who often contradicts himself within a single sentence
He's truly a certified moron which is why so many of his voters and supporters feel like he's one of them
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He doesn't
He actually knows less than the average person.
Gary Cohn tried to explain to him how the Post Office works but Trump didn't understand
John Kelly reportedly called him an idiot when it because obvious to him that Trump had no clue what DACA was
Of course Rex Tillerson called him a fucking moron due to his total lack of knowledge (or ability to learn) about foreign relations
Just last week we learned that Trump asked Bill Gates on two separate occasion if there was any difference between HIV and HPV
When speaking he often seems to forget what he's talking about midway through a sentence. Even better who often contradicts himself within a single sentence
He's truly a certified moron which is why so many of his voters and supporters feel like he's one of them
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He doesn't
He actually knows less than the average person.
Gary Cohn tried to explain to him how the Post Office works but Trump didn't understand
John Kelly reportedly called him an idiot when it because obvious to him that Trump had no clue what DACA was
Of course Rex Tillerson called him a fucking moron due to his total lack of knowledge (or ability to learn) about foreign relations
Just last week we learned that Trump asked Bill Gates on two separate occasion if there was any difference between HIV and HPV
When speaking he often seems to forget what he's talking about midway through a sentence. Even better who often contradicts himself within a single sentence
He's truly a certified moron which is why so many of his voters and supporters feel like he's one of them
Crazy what a moron can do! Imagine if he had even a pea brain all he'd be accomplishing!
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Crazy what a moron can do! Imagine if he had even a pea brain all he'd be accomplishing!
Doesn't take any brains to just walk away from NAFTA, TPP, Paris Climate agreement, Iran Deal etc..
He ran on getting rid of Obamacare and REPLACING it with something, better and cheaper that would cover more people
That would have been impressive.
All he had to do was provide his better/cheaper/more coverage plan to Congress for some reason he couldn't do that
Turns out that no one knew how complicated healthcare was (in the case the sole "no one" was Trump")
Of course his smartest move so far was firing Comey and then going on TV and admitting he fired him over the Russia Investigation (and told his Russian handlers the same thing)
That brilliant move got him a Special Counsel investigation and we learned this week that his many public and private attempts to get Sessions to interfere is of great interest to Mueller.
Sessions is going to wind up being a witness against Trump
All brilliant moves from the Moron in Chief
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Doesn't take any brains to just walk away from NAFTA, TPP, Paris Climate agreement, Iran Deal etc..
He ran on getting rid of Obamacare and REPLACING it with something, better and cheaper that would cover more people
That would have been impressive.
All he had to do was provide his better/cheaper/more coverage plan to Congress for some reason he couldn't do that
Turns out that no one knew how complicated healthcare was (in the case the sole "no one" was Trump")
Of course his smartest move so far was firing Comey and then going on TV and admitting he fired him over the Russia Investigation (and told his Russian handlers the same thing)
That brilliant move got him a Special Counsel investigation and we learned this week that his many public and private attempts to get Sessions to interfere is of great interest to Mueller.
Sessions is going to wind up being a witness against Trump
All brilliant moves from the Moron in Chief
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Straw, I'm not a Trump nut hugger, as you know.
BUT, if we want to be credible, we need to be fair and objective.
These latest economic numbers show a roaring economy and rapid rise in the avg wage.
Trump's been in office now for 18 mos, so he gets credit for this.
Let me add that this trend has been going this way for the past 8 years.
So, it started under Obama and Trump kept it going and even added to it.
I don't see anything that Trump did other than inherit an economy in recovery and not fuck it up ...yet
When I look at the chart below I see a long term trend that continued after Trump took office.
If you want to give him credit for starting from February of 2017 that's fine with me.
Try to keep in mind Trump said the UE numbers were totally fake and he thought the true UE rate was as high as 42% (such an idiotic statement it's obvious he doesn't even understand simple math)
Trust me, if/when the economy starts to slow down Trump won't take credit for that.
BTW - Trump and Republicans are on track to have a 1 trillion dollar budget deficit (which will only get worse in years to come with their idiotic tax plan)
Do you think Trump or Republicans will take ownership of that?
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i think trump's isolationist economic policies are closer to marxist theory than anything i'd ever support.
i'm enjoying what's happening. just wondered what the public view in the US is
Thanks for admitting you support Marxism. Seeing what you just said, I'm trying to figure out how you came to that conclusion especially since it's a proven failed theory which is the COMPLETE opposite of what's going on now.
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Conker actually appearing to be a civilized human being capable of eating with a fork in this thread and Straw Man being destroyed by Yamcha's superior counterstrike memetic abilities as usual.
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I don't see anything that Trump did other than inherit an economy in recovery and not fuck it up ...yet
When I look at the chart below I see a long term trend that continued after Trump took office.
If you want to give him credit for starting from February of 2017 that's fine with me.
Try to keep in mind Trump said the UE numbers were totally fake and he thought the true UE rate was as high as 42% (such an idiotic statement it's obvious he doesn't even understand simple math)
Trust me, if/when the economy starts to slow down Trump won't take credit for that.
BTW - Trump and Republicans are on track to have a 1 trillion dollar budget deficit (which will only get worse in years to come with their idiotic tax plan)
Do you think Trump or Republicans will take ownership of that?
Hahahahaa...holy shit, lmao ;D ;D ;D
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Doesn't take any brains to just walk away from NAFTA, TPP, Paris Climate agreement, Iran Deal etc..
He ran on getting rid of Obamacare and REPLACING it with something, better and cheaper that would cover more people
That would have been impressive.
All he had to do was provide his better/cheaper/more coverage plan to Congress for some reason he couldn't do that
Turns out that no one knew how complicated healthcare was (in the case the sole "no one" was Trump")
Of course his smartest move so far was firing Comey and then going on TV and admitting he fired him over the Russia Investigation (and told his Russian handlers the same thing)
That brilliant move got him a Special Counsel investigation and we learned this week that his many public and private attempts to get Sessions to interfere is of great interest to Mueller.
Sessions is going to wind up being a witness against Trump
All brilliant moves from the Moron in Chief
Paris Climate Accord and the Iran deal were both bad deals. Glad we are out of them, without a doubt.
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Conker actually appearing to be a civilized human being capable of eating with a fork in this thread and Straw Man being destroyed by Yamcha's superior counterstrike memetic abilities as usual.
Yeah, facts are such a drag.
Best thing to do is ignore them and post pictures
Here's one just for you.
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Hahahahaa...holy shit, lmao ;D ;D ;D
You forgot to mention that chart is totally fake except for the section after Trump took office
Here's a picture for you
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Paris Climate Accord and the Iran deal were both bad deals. Glad we are out of them, without a doubt.
great point
what was so bad about them and what has Trump replaced them with
tell me how letting Iran get a nuclear bomb sooner is good for us
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Thank God!
Can you name other nations who are isolated and who are still viable? You could say Russia is, but Russia has China. A U.S. trade war with China is risky business.
I just bought some new shorts for summer from J. Crew. They were made in Bangladesh. Here is a list of the top 25 Made in USA clothing brands. Note that pretty much everyone of them includes exceptions. https://www.finder.com/made-in-usa-clothing (https://www.finder.com/made-in-usa-clothing)
Historically, we humans were pretty much all members of tribes that either had alliances with other tribes or who sought to annihilate them. This philosophy is at the core of our survival today. Only the players and tribe size have changed. We believe we've evolved, but that is only conditionally true.
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Yeah, facts are such a drag.
Best thing to do is ignore them and post pictures
Here's one just for you.
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Hahahahaa...holy shit, lmao ;D ;D ;D
This November mid-term gonna be FUN Joe Marino!
(http://media.giphy.com/media/ygqMjv2x8KSxW/giphy.gif)
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Can you name other nations who are isolated and who are still viable? You could say Russia is, but Russia has China. A U.S. trade war with China is risky business.
I just bought some new shorts for summer from J. Crew. They were made in Bangladesh. Here is a list of the top 25 Made in USA clothing brands. Note that pretty much everyone of them includes exceptions. https://www.finder.com/made-in-usa-clothing (https://www.finder.com/made-in-usa-clothing)
Historically, we humans were pretty much all members of tribes that either had alliances with other tribes or who sought to annihilate them. This philosophy is at the core of our survival today. Only the players and tribe size have changed. We believe we've evolved, but that is only conditionally true.
Define viable. Do you seriously think the rest of the world will suddenly stop doing trade business with the US?
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Define viable. Do you seriously think the rest of the world will suddenly stop doing trade business with the US?
they won't stop trading but they will retaliate by putting tariffs on your exports. so while your steel industry may benefit other export industries will suffer. tariffs and trade barriers are the practice of communist states. economic protectionism has been proven not to work.
plus it's an attack on freedom(that thing you apparently hold so dear and have so much of!) freedom of choice. private enterprises are basically being forced to buy domestically.
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they won't stop trading but they will retaliate by putting tariffs on your exports. so while your steel industry may benefit other export industries will suffer. tariffs and trade barriers are the practice of communist states. economic protectionism has been proven not to work.
plus it's an attack on freedom(that thing you apparently hold so dear and have so much of!) freedom of choice. private enterprises are basically being forced to buy domestically.
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plus it's an attack on freedom(that thing you apparently hold so dear and have so much of!) freedom of choice. private enterprises are basically being forced to buy domestically.
Like the freedom to own firearms and pointy knives?
Good!
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Like the freedom to own firearms and pointy knives?
Good!
Yeah, I was about to say, aren't butter knives even banned in Great Britain?
It wasn't even lawful to report on the Tommy Robinson case until the judge lifted it after worldwide protest.
A real 1984 state sanctioned censorship existence those people are forced to live under.
Fuck that, I'm thankful for the protection I have under The First Amendment here in the US.
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plus it's an attack on freedom(that thing you apparently hold so dear and have so much of!) freedom of choice. private enterprises are basically being forced to buy domestically.
didn't we bail your stupid continent out twice? I guess third time will be the charm.
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are we still contributing the record high breaking unemployment record to OBAMA? just like OBAMA blamed BUSH for his shitty numbers
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are we still contributing the record high breaking unemployment record to OBAMA? just like OBAMA blamed BUSH for his shitty numbers
nope, you can give Trump credit for all the numbers starting on January 20th, 2017 and of course you'll give Obama the credit for the prior eight years of continuous improvement in the UE level.
I'm sure the preceding 7 year trend had absolutely nothing to do with what happened after January 20th, 2017.
Looking forward to you giving Trump credit for his Trillion Dollar Budget deficit during a time of such great prosperity
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nope, you can give Trump credit for all the numbers starting on January 20th, 2017 and of course you'll give Obama the credit for the prior eight years of continuous improvement in the UE level.
I'm sure the preceding 7 year trend had absolutely nothing to do with what happened after January 20th, 2017.
Looking forward to you giving Trump credit for his Trillion Dollar Budget deficit during a time of such great prosperity
Wow. It's almost like Boomers are reaching retirement.
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Wow. It's almost like Boomers are reaching retirement.
I'm not technically a Baby Boomer...two years too old. But most Boomers who planned well are already retired.
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nope, you can give Trump credit for all the numbers starting on January 20th, 2017 and of course you'll give Obama the credit for the prior eight years of continuous improvement in the UE level.
I'm sure the preceding 7 year trend had absolutely nothing to do with what happened after January 20th, 2017.
Looking forward to you giving Trump credit for his Trillion Dollar Budget deficit during a time of such great prosperity
nice source.. i can make a graph like that and make up numbers myself with basic bitmat.
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great point
what was so bad about them and what has Trump replaced them with
tell me how letting Iran get a nuclear bomb sooner is good for us
Chuck Schumer had a great analysis of the deal from 2015 I believe, and I tend to agree with him, that it was a bad deal. I'm glad we backed out.
The Paris Climate Accord was terrible for us as well, having us subsidize undeveloped countries which was just essentially a bribe to have them skip fossil fuels. Both deals needed renegotiation. I'm not saying the idea and spirit behind them was flawed, but those deals themselves were bad for USA. If you're a globalist I could see how you could agree with them, but I am not and thus think since they were bad for us, they needed to be redone.
As to what the Trump Administration is doing to replace the Iran deal, as I'm not privy to that info, but pulling out of Paris and replacing with something more friendly financially for us is a good thing.
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As to what the Trump Administration is doing to replace the Iran deal, as I'm not privy to that info, but pulling out of Paris and replacing with something more friendly financially for us is a good thing.
Not if you are aiming for one, almighty World Government
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Sorry Yamcha,
Thinking Nazis are funny isn't something I relate to or agree with.