US marks 4 straight years of slowing health costs

[blacken700]

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — Even as his health care law divided the nation, President Barack Obama’s first term produced historically low growth in health costs, government experts said in a new report Monday.

While the White House sees hard-won vindication, it’s too early to say if the four-year trend that continued through 2012 is a lasting turnaround that Obama can claim as part of his legacy.

For the second year in a row, the U.S. economy grew faster in 2012 than did national health care spending, according to nonpartisan economic experts at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

That’s an important statistic. In most years, health care spending grows more rapidly than the economy, like bills that rise faster than your paycheck. That cost pressure steadily undermines employer insurance as well as government programs like Medicare and Medicaid. But the pattern slowed starting in 2009, and then appears to have reversed ever so slightly and tenuously in 2012.

Read more: http://www.salon.com/2014/01/06/us_marks_4_straight_years_of_slowing_health_costs/

[OzmO]

Historically my ASS


Mine went up 16% last july, So i don't know what you are talking about...

[Soul Crusher]

Guess why fool?  Less people have health insurance and people have less$ to spend on anything.  



ObamaCare, once all the welfare thugs are all jacked on Medicade it will go right back up

[Soul Crusher]

Historically my ASS


Mine went up 16% last july, So i don't know what you are talking about...

Im paying $1300 more a year for myself under ThugCare

[LurkerNoMore]

Im paying $1300 more a year for myself under ThugCare

You should take advantage of it then.  Get yourself some psych help and meds.

Personally, mine hasn't changed either costing me more or costing me less a single penny.  Of course mine costs me absolutely nothing anyway since the hospital provides it as a benefit.   

[chadstallion]

You should take advantage of it then.  Get yourself some psych help and meds.

Personally, mine hasn't changed either costing me more or costing me less a single penny.  Of course mine costs me absolutely nothing anyway since the hospital provides it as a benefit.   

for 333386 / soul train, er. crusher:
1. use your benefits for better meds.
2. my plan didn't go up but then it was a great one to begin with. don't be so cheap.

[Shockwave]

Historically my ASS


Mine went up 16% last july, So i don't know what you are talking about...

haha no shit, ho2 the fuck are they massaging these numbers? Its laughable.... maybe they're averaging the costs across all the illegal s now elligable for our health insurance or some shit.


Historically my ass. Epic fail

[Emmortal]

How can they possibly attribute a downturn in cost during the first term when there are zero policies that were implemented in that time period to reduce health care costs.  Typically, any kind of legislation takes 3-5 years to fully impact the economy, there are very few policies that will have an immediate impact.

So we can clearly see that health care was on a down turn, with nothing attributed to Obama or his policies in 2009.   We now see a slight up tick again in costs 2012 (3 years after the ACA passed) and the trend for 2013 will also be the same once data is compiled, another uptick in cost, not a reduction.

Epic fucking failure.

[temple_of_dis]

spending equals costs?

lol

medical prices are higher than ever

and obama care will make them hop!

[dario73]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-02/another-problem-obamacare-won-t-solve-health-costs.html

In the fall, the study’s researchers came out with another interesting result: Adding people to Medicaid made no difference in their incomes; they did not drop out of the labor force because they had someone to pay for their health care; nor did better access to medical treatment enable them to boost their incomes. And today they’re releasing another paper, this time on the effect that becoming eligible for Medicaid had on ER usage. “It’s especially important to have that kind of gold standard,” in cases like this, says Amy Finkelstein, an MIT professor on the research team. “Where it’s not just a question of what the magnitude of the effect is, but a priori we don’t know what the sign of the effect could be.” Which is to say: Does giving people Medicaid drive ER usage up, or down?

The answer, it turns out, is “up.” People who got access to Medicaid used doctors more than people who didn’t. But they also used the ER more. And contrary to the theory that Medicaid might divert people from ERs to primary care physicians, the big increases actually came from the somewhat-less urgent problems that we were hoping to divert from ERs:

Medicaid increases use for visits classified as “non-emergent,” “primary care treatable,” and “emergent, preventable.” We find no statistically significant change in use of visits classified as “emergent, not preventable.”

Medicaid increases outpatient emergency department visits (visits that did not result in a hospital admission). We find no statistically significant increase in emergency department visits that did result in a hospital admission.

[dario73]

Crickets

[Archer77]

My insurance rates went up as well.

[Dos Equis]

lol

[temple_of_dis]

u know thats a baldface lie right?

med costs are up bigtime

as is most everything

20% inflation a year will do that

[whork]

My insurance rates went up as well.

How much?

[OzmO]

Mine, now, as I received my premium bill late, went up 68%.  So last year it went up 16% and as of January 1st its gone up 68%    

Now i realize it's cause of new requirements, and I should be able to switch to a comparable plan.....but we will see.   Mandatory I have to have pediatric dental, I haven't had a cavity in over 20 years,  my friend has to pay for birth control benefits and she's 45.  

Fuck you democrats, fuck you congress.  Fuck you GOP.  Fuck you OB.  


PS:  whork, this is no BS. 

[whork]

Mine, now, as I received my premium bill late, went up 68%.  So last year it went up 16% and as of January 1st its gone up 68%    

Now i realize it's cause of new requirements, and I should be able to switch to a comparable plan.....but we will see.   Mandatory I have to have pediatric dental, I haven't had a cavity in over 20 years,  my friend has to pay for birth control benefits and she's 45.  

Fuck you democrats, fuck you congress.  Fuck you GOP.  Fuck you OB.  


PS:  whork, this is no BS.  

Thanks Ozmo.

[LurkerNoMore]

Mine, now, as I received my premium bill late, went up 68%.  So last year it went up 16% and as of January 1st its gone up 68%    

Now i realize it's cause of new requirements, and I should be able to switch to a comparable plan.....but we will see.   Mandatory I have to have pediatric dental, I haven't had a cavity in over 20 years,  my friend has to pay for birth control benefits and she's 45.  

Fuck you democrats, fuck you congress.  Fuck you GOP.  Fuck you OB.  


PS:  whork, this is no BS. 

Go under the ACA and see if you get something comparable for the same price or cheaper as advertised.  It would be interesting to see how it compares.  Seeing how I can never get cheaper than zero cost, I would not have anything to judge by.

[Archer77]

How much?

Nearly identical to ozmo.

[loco]

Dang, blacken700 got destroyed in this thread.   

[OzmO]

Go under the ACA and see if you get something comparable for the same price or cheaper as advertised.  It would be interesting to see how it compares.  Seeing how I can never get cheaper than zero cost, I would not have anything to judge by.

lol  yeah.  I will keep y'all posted. 

[Soul Crusher]

lol  yeah.  I will keep y'all posted. 

The issue is not the premiums alone - its the staggering deductibles. 

[OzmO]

The issue is not the premiums alone - its the staggering deductibles. 

yeah and the required coverages, such as pediatric dental.

[LurkerNoMore]

Remember don't opt for maternity care unless the $500 deductible specifically guarantees that you can pick your unborn child's gender, sexuality, eye/hair color and adult height/weight ratio.

[Dos Equis]

yeah and the required coverages, such as pediatric dental.

Big Brother knows best.