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« Reply #1750 on: July 07, 2011, 07:22:13 AM »
Father spoke of having Obama adopted
US immigration files from ’61 reveal Kenyan student’s plan
By Sally Jacobs
Globe Staff / July 7, 2011

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/articles/2011/07/07/father_spoke_of_having_obama_adopted/?page=full





In the spring of 1961, President Obama’s father revealed a plan for his unborn son that might have changed the course of American political history.

The elder Barack H. Obama, a sophomore at the University of Hawaii, had come under scrutiny by federal immigration officials who were concerned that he had more than one wife. When he was questioned by the school’s foreign student adviser, the 24-year-old Obama insisted that he had divorced his wife in his native Kenya. Although his new wife, Ann Dunham, was five months pregnant with their child - who would be called Barack Obama II - Obama declared that they intended to put their child up for adoption.

“Subject got his USC wife ‘Hapai’ [Hawaiian for pregnant] and although they were married they do not live together and Miss Dunham is making arrangements with the Salvation Army to give the baby away,’’ according to a memo describing the conversation with Obama written by Lyle H. Dahling, an administrator in the Honolulu office of what was then called the US Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Obama, the Subject, and his USC, or United States citizen, wife, obviously, did not put their baby up for adoption. Whether the young couple actually considered such a step, or the elder Obama made the story up in order to appease immigration officials who at the time were considering his request for an extension of his stay in the United States, is unclear. Family members on both sides of the marriage now say they never heard any mention of adoption.

But his statement provides a unique glimpse into the relationship between the president’s parents and the fragility of his connection to the father whom he would little know.

Dahling’s memo, dated April 12, 1961, is one of dozens of documents in the elder Obama’s “alien’’ file released by the Department of Homeland Security in response to a Freedom of Information Act request made in the course of research on a biography of Obama’s father. Obama was visiting the United States on a foreign student visa which required him to apply for an annual extension of his stay during the five years he was attending US colleges.

The memo advised that officials should continue to monitor the senior Obama’s personal life, and raised concerns about his behavior, noting that the previous summer he had been warned about his “playboy ways.’’

Robert L. Gibbs, the former White House press secretary, said at the time the document was released that President Obama had never been told that his mother had considered putting him up for adoption. Nor, Gibbs said, was Obama previously aware of the INS memo. Gibbs said that the White House had made no effort to determine if Dunham had ever had a conversation with the Salvation Army. The president, he added, “is absolutely convinced that she did not.’’

From the early 20th century through the 1970s the Salvation Army operated nearly a dozen residential maternity homes throughout the United States, one of which was located in Honolulu. Residents who chose not to keep their babies were able to make arrangements to put them up for adoption through local agencies. The agency maintains records of its maternity homes but provides them only to birth mothers or children who request them, according to Kathy Lovin, public affairs manager for The Salvation Army’s western territory in Long Beach, Calif. Lovin declined to say whether Ann Dunham, who died in 1995, spoke with Salvation Army officials at all about the possibility of putting her child up for adoption.

Neither President Obama nor the White House has since asked the Salvation Army if there is any record that his parents talked with the organization regarding his possible adoption, according to a White House press person who declined to be identified.

The INS memo can be regarded from several perspectives. On the one hand, Ann Dunham had good reason to consider surrendering her child. At the time that she gave birth in 1961, Dunham was just 18 years old, and mixed-race marriage - while legal in Hawaii - was a felony in many of the 22 states in which it was banned. Even in Hawaii, the only state at the time with a nonwhite majority, blacks accounted for less than 1 percent of the population, and a black face drew curious stares on the streets of Honolulu.

In his memoir, “Dreams from My Father,’’ President Obama mused that his mother might have considered putting her child up for adoption given the cultural hostility to mixed race marriages that existed at the time. Even in sophisticated urban centers, he wrote, “. . . the hostile stares, the whispers, might have driven a woman in my mother’s predicament into a back-alley abortion - or at the very least to a distant convent that could arrange for adoption.’’

While it is possible that the elder Obama’s statement to the student adviser was true, family and friends say they do not believe she ever considered such a thing. Dunham, they maintain, was a bold iconoclast even as a young woman and regarded her unborn child as very much her responsibility, one that she would never have surrendered.

“I never heard any talk of adoption whatsoever,’’ said Charles Payne, Dunham’s maternal uncle, who is now in his 80s and living in Chicago. “Ann decided she had done this and this was her child and she was going to take care of him. From day one, as far as I could tell, she and Madelyn [Dunham] and Stanley [Dunham] were all completely committed to Barack.’’

Nor do several of Ann Dunham’s friends at the time recall her mentioning giving up her baby. On the contrary, Susan Botkin Blake, a high school friend of Dunham’s, describes how entranced her friend was with her small son during a visit to Seattle just weeks after he was born.

“She was wildly in love with Barack Obama, her husband, and very excited about her future with him,’’ recalled Blake. “From my perspective, she had no equivocation about her baby in the slightest. She was thrilled with him.’’

Barack Obama Sr., on the other hand, would have had reason to worry that having a child in the United States could have significant consequences. For starters, Obama, who had two children in Kenya, was having severe financial problems. Although he told Duham that he had gotten divorced from his Kenyan wife, he apparently did not tell her about his other children.

Obama was a member of the Luo ethnic group, the third largest of Kenya’s tribes, among whose members polygamy was common. His own father had at least four wives. In fact, Obama was still married to his Kenyan wife, Grace Kezia Obama, and apparently worried about the financial burden of another child.

Of greater concern was his immigration status. At the time that he made his statement about adoption in spring 1961, Obama was in the midst of applying to the INS for an extension of his stay in the United States. Although it was a routine process that was required of foreign students periodically, the application entailed an examination of the student’s academic record and general behavior.

Obama would have wanted to present a case that would impress immigration authorities. A bigamist with a mixed-race baby, if that is how authorities chose to see him, was not likely to be the strongest of candidates. As Gibbs assessed the elder Obama’s possible motive: “He was trying to convince immigration to let him stay. So, part of his effort was to convince immigration that some of the responsibilities that he had he would not continue to have.’’

University of Hawaii and federal immigration authorities were already alarmed about Obama’s relationships with women and perplexed as to his marital status. Since his arrival at the university in 1959, Obama had repeatedly failed to complete routine paperwork at UH’s foreign students office regarding his domestic status that would have clarified whether he had a wife in Kenya, according to an employee in the office who declined to be identified. Even the exact year of his own birth was unclear. Obama alternately reported to immigration and academic officials that he was born in both 1934 and 1936. Although the INS memo records the year of his birth as 1934, Obama’s family members and other records indicate that he was probably born in 1936.

When he married Dunham in February 1961, school administrators began to probe his status in earnest. Sumi McCabe, then UH’s foreign student adviser, first brought attention to the matter during a phone call to Dahling, the INS administrator, the following April. According to Dahling’s memo, “Mrs. McCabe further states that [Obama] has been running around with several girls since he first arrived here and last summer she cautioned him about his playboy ways. [Obama] replied that he would ‘try’ to stay away from the girls.’’ But he didn’t try very hard. Instead, he began dating the dark-eyed Ann Dunham.

Now that he was married to a US citizen and was soon to become the father of an American child, immigration officials would not have been reassured by his official records. On some of the forms in his alien file, Obama reported that he had a Kenyan wife. After he married Dunham, he sometimes reported her as his wife. More often than not, he left the section blank.

All the while, he wrote letters to his family and friends back home in Kenya, inquiring about his wife and children there.

Noting that Obama appeared to have a wife in Kenya and another in Hawaii, Dahling raised the possibility in his memo of charging Obama with polygamy or bigamy in order to get a deportation order against him. In the end, he suggested they keep an eye on him.

“Recommend that Subject be closely questioned before another extension is granted - and denial be considered,’’ Dahling concluded. “If his USC wife tries to petition for him, make sure an investigation is conducted as to the bona fide of the marriage.’’

As it turned out, the matter soon moved out of Honolulu administrators’ purview. The following year, Obama left his small family in Honolulu and headed to Harvard University to pursue a doctorate in economics. While in Cambridge, Obama would not only meet his third wife, but the question of how many wives he had would spiral into a confrontation with devastating consequences.

Sally Jacobs is a Boston Globe reporter. Her book, “The Other Barack, The Bold and Reckless Life of President Obama’s Father,’’ will be released next week.

© Copyright 2011 Globe Newspaper Company.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1751 on: July 11, 2011, 11:42:45 AM »
With all this evidence I look for Obama to be stripped of the presidency within days....

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1752 on: July 12, 2011, 05:54:54 AM »
Another [again] graphics expert questions birth certificate
WND ^ | July 11, 2011 | WND


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Another computer graphics expert is questioning the validity of the Obama birth document released by the White House.

Victoria Nicks, who holds both a Bachelor's and a Master's Degree in Information Technology, argues that the presence of "differently sized pixels" in the image released to the public April 27 by the White House indicates that it's not "an exact duplicate of an original document scan."

In a piece on the Decoded Science website, she also points out that there are "misaligned pixels" throughout the document.

"The fact that there are different-sized pixels throughout the document indicates, without a doubt, that the document has been altered from its original state," she writes.While Nicks is not willing to state that the Obama document is a forgery, others graphics experts have come to that conclusion.

Nicks says it's possible that the alteration is solely the result of a standard optimization process, but it's clear that the document is not an exact copy of an original birth certificate.

She says that while most of the Obama document is composed of larger pixels, the layer of pixels that can be removed from the document using the software program Adobe Illustrator is made up of much smaller pixels.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1753 on: July 13, 2011, 03:54:37 PM »
With all this evidence I look for Obama to be stripped of the presidency within days....

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1754 on: July 13, 2011, 03:59:51 PM »

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« Reply #1755 on: July 13, 2011, 04:12:02 PM »
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1756 on: July 19, 2011, 07:25:52 PM »
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White House operative heading 'birther' smear campaign?
WND ^ | 7/19/11 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on July 19, 2011 10:10:09 PM EDT by Nachum

White House operative heading 'birther' smear campaign? Former Fannie Mae chief allegedly manages 100-strong attack team from Pennsylvania Ave

NEW YORK – A top Democrat, apparently operating with the full approval and cooperation of the president, has been directing a team of up to 100 who are paid to publish disinformation on a wide variety of websites to discredit "birthers," according to anti-Obama researchers.

The radical supporters of the president, known as Obama robots, or "OBOTs" for short, have confirmed their White House-appointed ring leader is Democratic Party operative James A. Johnson, the former chairman of Fannie Mae.

Initially, the OBOTs attempted to mask their Internet identities by posting under usernames with avatars that suggest their personalities. But due largely to the efforts of anti-Obama researchers, including "birthers" vilified by the OBOTs, the true identities of key OBOT operatives have been revealed.

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« Reply #1757 on: July 19, 2011, 10:59:51 PM »
A dis-information campaign to battle disinformation?   I love it!

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« Reply #1758 on: July 20, 2011, 06:08:35 AM »
White House operative heading 'birther' smear campaign?
WND ^ | 7/19/11 | Jerome R. Corsi

Corsi = a birther selling a book

His book sales were cockblocked by obama's long-form release.

Now the guy is a reverse CTer with the disinfo angle?  Yikes!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1759 on: July 21, 2011, 11:42:39 AM »
http://www.greeleygazette.com/press/?p=10327
Hawaii refuses subpoena of Obama birth certificate, citing privacy concerns
July 20, 2011
by Jack Minor      -

The Hawaii Department of Health has refused to comply with a subpoena compelling the state to provide access to the original, filed copy of the President's birth certificate, citing privacy laws.

In April, President Obama released a copy of what he says is an original copy of his long form birth certificate. The release came after the state of Hawaii had been saying for months they could not release a copy, even to the President.

Former director of Hawaii's health department, Dr. Chiyome Fukimo, claimed she had actually seen the President's birth certificate and it was half typed and half hand-written. The document released by the President was all typed.

Since its release, several document experts have come forward stating the document was altered and could be a forgery. No experts have stated publicly that the document has not been altered in any way.

Fox News posted a story by Jana Winter, who claimed an expert, Jean-Claude Tremblay, said there was "no doubt" the certificate was authentic. Tremblay is an Adobe certified expert with years of experience working with and teaching Adobe illustrator.

However, Tremblay told WorldNetDaily that none of the comments he made to Fox News would lead to the conclusion the birth certificate was authentic. Tremblay said, "Despite my protests, Fox News will not allow me to correct their story."

Dr. Orly Taitz, who has filed multiple lawsuits regarding the President's birth certificate, has filed a case in Washington D.C., seeking Obama's original application for his social security number.

President Obama has a social security number issued in Connecticut, despite never living there. Supporters have offered various explanations for the Connecticut number. In an article on the website Obamaconspiracy.org which supports the President, author Dr. Conspiracy said he believed that, "Obama got his SSN as a child living in Indonesia and the application was just processed in Connecticut."

Another supporter said Obama was a teenager traveling to the state on a college prep trip. "I think it's more likely that Barack Obama may have traveled to the east coast as a teenager, perhaps in connection with some college prep activity for high school age students – that simply isn’t mentioned in his autobiography." The poster went on to say, "It is common for schools to arrange trips for students to visit east coast colleges (Harvard, Yale, etc.); and students need to have a social security number when they register for the SAT. So, it's possible that it was participation in some sort of college prep program that lead to the CT tie in of the social security number."

Colorado private investigator, John Sampson, disputes these explanations, saying in an affidavit, ""It is my knowledge and belief that Social Security numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence."

Taitz filed the case after submitting a Freedom of Information Act request to the Social Security Administration seeking access to the President's original birth certificate and other documents. The reason for the FOIA request was because of the many questions surrounding Obama's eligibility including his social security number and whether the birth certificate released by the White house is authentic. The FOIA was rejected by the SSA and affirmed by District  Chief Judge Royce Lamberth, who ruled administrative procedures had not yet run their course. Once that had happened, Lamberth ruled that discovery could go forward.

Taitz told the Gazette a subpoena was issued to the state's attorney general and Loretta Fuddy, the current director of the Hawaii department of health. The document ordered Fuddy to produce the "original 1961 typewritten birth certificate #10641 for Barack Obama … issued 08.08.1961, signed by Dr. David Sinclair, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and registrar Lee, stored in the Health Department of the State of HI from 08081961 until now."

The state of Hawaii responded, saying they would not release the information, citing "privacy" concerns. Taitz said the privacy issues should not apply since she is asking for access to a document the President has supposedly already released. She has since filed a motion with the court requesting they compel the government to supply the information.

Taitz's case is the first one to be granted discovery. Every other case has been dismissed on procedural grounds without issuing definitive decisions on Obama's eligibility.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1760 on: July 29, 2011, 11:39:23 AM »
Regardless of what one may think of Taitz, one must admire her tenacity.

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The birth certificate please! Subpoena to be delivered
Attorney, doc experts to show up at Hawaii Department of Health with court document
July 28, 2011
By Jerome R. Corsi

Computer scanning expert Doug Vogt and typesetting expert Paul Irey say they will accompany attorney Orly Taitz when she presents to the Hawaii Department of Health a subpoena that should allow her to examine Barack Obama's original 1961 typewritten birth certificate.

Vogt and Irey both told WND they are making travel plans to join Taitz in Honolulu when she goes to the state agency at 10 a.m. on Monday, Aug. 8, to present the subpoena in person.

"We will plan to hold a press conference late in the day of Aug. 8," Vogt said, "and if the document we see varies from the birth certificate documents the White House released, we plan to file criminal charges in Hawaii immediately."

Get the New York Times best-seller "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama Is Not Eligible to be President," by Jerome Corsi.

Vogt shared with WND a copy of a letter he has written to Hawaii Attorney General David Louie, putting Louie on notice regarding the reasons he believes the birth certificate released by the White House is fraudulent.

WND previously reported on Vogt's decision to file a 22-page criminal complaint with the FBI.

Irey says it won't take long to evaluate the original birth record, if it exists.

"Over the years of my career, I've seen everything that can be put on paper," he said. "Now that I'm thoroughly familiar with what the White House released, I will be able to tell you within a few minutes, if what the Hawaii DOH has matches what the White House has released, or not.

"I will expect to see the same differences in typeface that are on the White House version, otherwise I will know immediately that what the Hawaii DOH is showing us is a forgery."


What the White House released

Vogt and Irey plan to bring a laptop computer and a portable scanner to the Hawaii DOH for the inspection.

"We will scan the document to compare it to the White House electronic version and the Xerox copies they handed out in the press room," he said. "We will immediately make our scan available to the public over the Internet, so the American public can see for themselves."

Irey told WND he expects the Hawaii DOH at the last minute will do everything possible to prevent Taitz from getting access to the 1961 original Obama birth certificate, if it exists.

"Quite frankly, I doubt the Hawaii DOH has anything to show us," Irey said skeptically, "and if we do see a document, my guess is that it will have been forged for the purpose of showing us something."

Vogt and Irey repeatedly have told WND that if the Hawaii DOH had an original 1961 Obama birth certificate, the most credible thing to have done on April 27 would have been to release that document to the public for professional forensic examination by qualified independent professionals.

As displayed on her website, the July 5 subpoena granted Taitz by the U.S. District Court for the District of Hawaii allows her to examine the original 1961 Obama birth certificate on Aug. 8 at 10 a.m.:


Page 1 of Orly Taitz subpoena to Hawaii


Page 2 of Orly Taitz subpoena to Hawaii

Taitz's subpoena was served upon Loretta Fuddy, director of the Hawaii Department of Health. Hawaii Deputy Attorney General Jill Nagamine is representing Fuddy.

Because Fuddy neglected to file opposition to the court-issued subpoena within the 14 days specified, the Hawaii DOH appears to have little recourse but to comply with the subpoena by producing the Obama original birth certificate for Taitz's examination.

Taitz is planning to travel to the state agency, despite receiving no answer from Fuddy as to whether or not she intends to comply with the subpoena. Taitz put the question to Fuddy in a July 27 letter.

On July 15, Florence Stone, an interested citizen residing in Oregon, was told that Nagamine was on leave and that Fuddy had left the islands.

On April 27, the White House released hard copies and a PDF electronic file of the Obama birth certificate, a document numerous experts, including several in Adobe software, have charged to be a forgery.

Handed out at the White House press conference were paper copies of the Obama birth certificate that lacked the green security paper background seen in the PDF electronic version.

The White House claims to have a certified copy of the birth certificate that contains an embossed seal from the Hawaii Department of Health, a feature that is questionably present in the PDF file and not apparent in the paper copies the White House handed to reporters.

NBC reporter Savannah Guthrie was the only person at the April 27 White House press conference allowed to see the certified copy of the Obama document, feel the seal and take a picture of the document.

To date, the Hawaii Department of Health has kept whatever record of Obama's birth that exists in its files in the agency's vault. The department refuses to grant any requests to show the original document to the public or to allow independent forensic examiners to authenticate it.

Without access to the original document, dozens of traditionally trained court-authorized forensic document examiners approached by WND have refused to render an opinion.

Vogt, who describes himself as an expert in documents, typesetting, imaging, scanners and document imaging programs, has owned Archive Index Systems, a company specializing in the international marketing of scanner equipment and technology, since 1993.

WND previously reported, and later expanded on the report, that Irey has identified different sized and different shaped letters within the Obama birth certificate. Irey believes the letters used to compose the document came from more than one typewriter, which he considers "irrefutable proof" the Obama birth certificate released by the White House is a forgery.

Irey, a typesetting and typeface expert with 50 years of experience in the business, founded Bergan Graphics in Fort Lee, N.J., in 1967.

Taitz said the state's "privacy" regulations should be ignored, as Obama already has released what the White House purported to be a copy of the document to the public.

The subpoena comes in a case she has developed in Washington, D.C., seeking the original application for Obama's Social Security number, a document that could provide significant information about the president's early life that relates to his eligibility.

U.S. District Court Chief Judge Royce Lamberth rejected a defense concern over procedure in the dispute. Taitz said the judge's ruling moved the case into the discovery phase, in which she can issue subpoenas to those holding documentation she is seeking.

WND previously has reported on the issue that Obama holds a Connecticut-based Social Security number despite allegedly being born in Hawaii, starting his work career in the Aloha State and neverhaving lived in Connecticut.

The first three digits of a Social Security number indicate the state of the applicant's mailing address. Obama's number begins with 042, which falls within Connecticut's range of 040 through 049.



The national news media have been virtually silent on this potentially criminal fact.

Indeed, when Fox News finally attempted to explain it, the news networkbroadcast false information and then scrubbed the report from its website.

When WND asked the White House about the issue, then–Press SecretaryRobert Gibbs dodged the question.

Taitz' case, against Social Security Commissioner Michael Astrue, explains that because of the numerous questions surrounding Obama's eligibility, his birth certificate and his other records, a Freedom of Information Act request was submitted.

According to a report in The Post & Email, the U.S. District Court for the District of Hawaii had issued a subpoena that was served on the director of the Hawaii Department of Health.

The demand to Fuddy requires the "original 1961 typewritten birth certificate #10641 for Barack Obama … issued 08.08.1961, signed by Dr. David Sinclair, Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and registrar Lee, stored in the Health Department of the State of HI from 08081961 until now."

As WND has reported, there long have been concerns about the Social Security number.

"There is obviously a case of fraud going on here," says Ohio licensed private investigator Susan Daniels. "In 15 years of having a private investigator's license in Ohio, I've never seen the Social Security Administration make a mistake of issuing a Connecticut Social Security number to a person who lived in Hawaii. There is no family connection that would appear to explain the anomaly."

Does the Social Security Administration ever re-issue Social Security numbers?

"Never," Daniels told Corsi. "It's against the law for a person to have a re-issued or second Social Security Number issued."

Daniels said she is "staking my reputation on a conclusion that Obama's use of this Social Security Number is fraudulent."

"A person who wants to hide their true identity often picks up the Social Security Number of a deceased person, thinking that nobody would ever look into it," Daniels added. "I think it was sometime in the 1980s that Obama decided to hide who he really is."

There is no indication in the limited background documentation released by the Obama 2008 presidential campaign or by the White House to establish that Obama ever lived in Connecticut.

Nor is there any suggestion in Obama's autobiography, "Dreams from My Father," that he ever had a Connecticut address.

Also, nothing can be found in the public record that indicates Obama visited Connecticut during his high-school years.

An affidavit filed by Colorado private investigator John N. Sampson specifies that as a result of his formal training as an immigration officer and his 27-year career in professional law enforcement, "it is my knowledge and belief that Social Security Numbers can only be applied for in the state in which the applicant habitually resides and has their official residence."

Daniels told WND she believes Obama had a different Social Security Number when he worked as a teenager in Hawaii prior to 1977.

"I doubt this is President Obama's originally issued Social Security number," she told WND. "Obama has a work history in Hawaii before he left the islands to attend college at Occidental College in California, so he must have originally been issued a Social Security number in Hawaii."

The published record available about Obama indicates his first job as a teenager in Hawaii was at a Baskin-Robbins in the Makiki neighborhood on Oahu. USA Today reported the ice-cream shop still was in operation one year after Obama's inauguration.

In April, some 11 months after WND began publicizing Obama's Connecticut-based SSN, Bill O'Reilly of the Fox News Channel briefly addressed the issue while reading his viewer mail on the air.

But the news anchor falsely asserted the president's father lived in Connecticut.

In his viewer email segment April 13, O'Reilly was asked: "What about Obama having a Connecticut Social Security Number? He never lived there."

"His father lived in Connecticut for several years," O'Reilly claimed, adding that "babies sometimes get numbers based on addresses provided by their parents."

However, there is no evidence Barack Obama Sr. ever lived in Connecticut. He left Hawaii in 1962 to study at Harvard in Massachusetts and then returned to his home country of Kenya.

When WND publicized O'Reilly's error, the information vanished from the Fox News Channel's website and BillOReilly.com.

O'Reilly's full explanation of the "truth" of Obama "myths" is here:



The BirtherReport.com website, responding to complaints by Fox podcast customers that O'Reilly's Social Security claim, broadcast on Fox, had gone missing from the audio archive, trumpeted the headline: "Busted: Fox News scrubbed Bill O'Reilly's 4/13 mailbag segment on Obama's Social Security Number reserved for Connecticut applicants." The site added, "Not only did Fox News scrub the podcast, they also left out the viewer -email about Obama's Social Security number at O'Reilly's website. I report, you decide!"

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1761 on: August 08, 2011, 07:17:19 PM »
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=24513

FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERS DIRECTOR OF HEALTH TO APPEAR IN COURT AND SHOW CAUSE, WHY SHE REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA AND ALLOW INSPECTION OF OBAMA’S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE ON FILE, WHICH HE, HIMSELF ALREADY MADE PUBLIC

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Taitz v Astrue motion to show cause

Today, as expected, Loretta Fuddy, director of health, continued stonewalling
claiming privacy. See attached, scanned filed motion for order to show cause
Motion was accepted by the US District Court in HI and was assigned to the chief judge Susan Oke Moulvanney and magistrate Richard Puggliose.

Hearing is set for September 14th, 10 am courtroom 6. This will be motion to compel and show cause for the director of Health to show cause to the judge, why she is refusing to comply with the subpoena and allow inspection of the original birth certificate,  claiming privacy, while Obama has already waived privacy, posting the alleged birth certificate on line.

Fox news sent a crew. FOX HI reporter Andrew Pereira interviewed me and my experts at the Health Department and in the Federal Court.
they will be reporting shortly.

Nationally Syndicated talk  show host Rusty Humphries came to the Health department and recorded the interview. He will be reporting on  280 stations.

I got a call from HI Reporter, their main news paper, I will give them an interview shortly.

I gave an interview to Jerome  Corsi, it will be in Net World Daily

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1762 on: August 08, 2011, 07:18:25 PM »
I still wonder where the he'll he was spawned. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1763 on: August 18, 2011, 03:54:26 PM »
http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2011/110817/frontpage-birther.html
BY LINDA BENTLEY | AUGUST 17, 2011
Birther Summit offers $5K for 1961 Honolulu newspaper

WASHINGTON – After receiving no response from Colin Powell to its $15,000 offer (click herehttp://sonorannews.com/archives/2011/110810/frontpage-birthers.html) for him to listen to evidence surrounding what a number of experts have deemed are Obama’s forged birth certificate, false use of a Connecticut Social Security number and fraudulently created Selective Service registration, the Birther Summit has announced a new offer: A $5,000 reward for the original edition of either the Aug. 13, 1961 edition of The Honolulu Advertiser or the Aug. 14, 1961 edition of the Honolulu Star-Bulletin.

Those are the two newspapers in which the birth announcements of Barack Obama purportedly appeared.
 
Dean Haskins
Birther Summit Executive Director Dean Haskins said, “While we under-stand that the announcement’s inclusion in those newspapers would not be conclusive proof that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, as there were circumstances that would have allowed for them to appear without a Hawaii birth actually occurring, the only evidence anyone has actually seen of the birth’s announcements has been copies of microfiche versions of those newspapers, and they contain suspicious anomalies.”

Haskins went on to say, “As with the vault version of Obama’s birth certificate, which has still not been forensically verified as being a valid document, we would like an opportunity to inspect one of these actual newspapers rather than purported representations of them.”

Photographic evidence of one of those two newspapers may be submitted to dean@birthersummit.org, at which time instructions will be provided regarding the purchase process to be brokered through the Summit’s attorney.

Since Haskins’ announcement on Monday, Summit participants have engaged in a bit of dialogue over this endeavor.

Some expressed fear if the birth announcement did in fact run in those editions it would bolster the anti-birther’s side of the argument.

However, Haskins responded, “Let me clarify some things, First, this money is being fronted for this purpose only – by someone who wants to spend his money to obtain one of these papers.

“Second, we don’t really care if the announcement is there, as we have already acknowledged in the press release that it proves nothing. However, if it is not there, it does a lot for us.”

Because birthplace and parentage are equal parts of the natural born citizen requirement, and Haskins believes Obama misses the mark on both, he said he will ignore neither.

Haskins said, “We are simply pointing out that, like the birth certificate, nobody has seen an original – only digital representations,” adding, “If we are afraid of the truth in any of this, then our motives are wrong. Being afraid that an actual newspaper exists and it has the announcement in it is the same as fearing that an actual birth certificate exists – and allowing that to keep us from trying to see the original. We just want to verify that the announce-ment is in there. If it is, we are in the exact same position as we have been. If it’s not …”

Although Haskins reali-zes the existence of an original copy of one of these two papers is unlikely, he said Aug. 13, 1961 was also the day first reports about construction of the Berlin Wall appeared in news-papers around the globe. So, for that reason, he believes someone may have saved a copy.

Back then, newspaper was also something that was still commonly placed in attic spaces for insulation.

Meanwhile, Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq., obtained a subpoena for Loretta Fuddy, director, State of Hawaii Department of Health, signed by the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., to produce Obama’s original long form birth certificate for examination by Aug. 8, 2011.

Taitz flew to Hawaii, accompanied by Doug Vogt, who owns a company that specializes in scanners and scanner software, and Paul Irey, a retired graphic artist with a 50-year background in typography, photography and graphic art design, both of whom have deemed the birth certificate displayed online by the White House on April 27, 2011 a forgery, and served the subpoena on Fuddy on Aug. 8.

Instead of Fuddy producing the subpoenaed document, Taitz was provided a letter declining her request, citing privacy concerns.

Taitz responded to the Hawaii Department of Health’s claim of privacy by saying Obama waived all claims to privacy when he posted what is supposedly a certified copy of his long form birth certificate on the Internet.

She then filed an ex-parte emergency motion in the U.S. District Court for the District of Hawaii for an emergency order to show cause and to compel production of documents, and for attorneys’ fees and costs.

U.S. District Court Judge Richard L. Puglisi ordered a hearing in his courtroom at 10 a.m. on Sept. 14 on Taitz’s motion to compel.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1764 on: August 18, 2011, 03:59:46 PM »
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=24513

FEDERAL JUDGE ORDERS DIRECTOR OF HEALTH TO APPEAR IN COURT AND SHOW CAUSE, WHY SHE REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE SUBPOENA AND ALLOW INSPECTION OF OBAMA’S ORIGINAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE ON FILE, WHICH HE, HIMSELF ALREADY MADE PUBLIC

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Taitz v Astrue motion to show cause

Today, as expected, Loretta Fuddy, director of health, continued stonewalling
claiming privacy. See attached, scanned filed motion for order to show cause
Motion was accepted by the US District Court in HI and was assigned to the chief judge Susan Oke Moulvanney and magistrate Richard Puggliose.

Hearing is set for September 14th, 10 am courtroom 6. This will be motion to compel and show cause for the director of Health to show cause to the judge, why she is refusing to comply with the subpoena and allow inspection of the original birth certificate,  claiming privacy, while Obama has already waived privacy, posting the alleged birth certificate on line.

Fox news sent a crew. FOX HI reporter Andrew Pereira interviewed me and my experts at the Health Department and in the Federal Court.
they will be reporting shortly.

Nationally Syndicated talk  show host Rusty Humphries came to the Health department and recorded the interview. He will be reporting on  280 stations.

I got a call from HI Reporter, their main news paper, I will give them an interview shortly.

I gave an interview to Jerome  Corsi, it will be in Net World Daily

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1765 on: August 20, 2011, 07:00:46 PM »
Obama's Alias Harrison J. Bounel Tied To Connecticut Social Security Number Now Scrubbed
Birther Report ^ | aug 20 2011 | www.birtherreport.com
Posted on August 20, 2011 9:54:17 PM EDT by tutstar

From Albert "Al" Hendershot: There has been a development as it pertains to database records for and about Barack H Obama. As we well know I am the one who discovered the Harrison J Bounel alias. Well, these records have been scrubbed from theses databases as of yesterday. All other records are gone except the records belonging to the "chosen one". Albert Hendershot's SSN Pull for 042-68-4425 (Obama) With His Notes Added to the Database Pull

From Carl Swensson: Spent yesterday with a credit investigator (skip tracer) who has very highly specialized search software available to only those in the business and highly protected…

In March of this year he was doing a lookup of BHO’s SSN number and came up with this anomaly. Harrison J. Bounel kept showing up as living at the “O’s” and using the same SSN # ???? Also showed up as a relative of Michelle’s? As of yesterday, the same search yielded no reference to Bounel so here we go again, records scrubbed. This Gentleman (Albert) is working with Jerome Corsi to get this and some really damning evidence concerning tax evasion on the Chicago address of the Obama’s residence (Can we say Capone) out to as many as possible.

Orly had one such investigator working, early on, with the SS numbers but I’m not sure if she tied that together with the voter fraud documents which show multiple fictitious and famous characters living at the addresses of all these BHO residences associated with that CN SSN from across the country. I now have copies of that as well. Anybody here live in Arkansas? Have some interesting leads for you.

I know that name (Bounel) has appeared before but the significance now is that it is being scrubbed as people like Albert find pockets of this info still out there in the virtual world.

I do hope Jerome and Albert can put the pieces of the tax fraud puzzle together in a way that’s easily understandable for the masses to understand. Good luck with that as Cook County, IL is an absolute cesspool of political corruption and does an absolutely excellent job of hiding underhanded political dealings involving land and taxes. Key here is that sliver of land Rezko turned over to the Trust Co. that owned Michelle’s/Barry’s Chicago residence at 5046 S. Greenwood Ave that has every appearance of having avoided any taxes being paid on it. That and the fact that on the Obama’s 2009 tax return it shows taxes paid on real estate when, according to records, they owned NONE.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1766 on: August 20, 2011, 08:12:40 PM »
YES, now you're talking, 333396@

It's the COVER UP that is a big deal.

When all the preggo rumors surfaced, Palin took down the Alaska Governor website, and REMOVED ALL THE PICS FROM HER "skinny" PREGNANCY PERIOD!

Why the F would she do this?  Things like that make you wonder.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1767 on: September 12, 2011, 09:01:48 PM »
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=342937


Good freaking article.   Too many images to post. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1768 on: September 13, 2011, 06:12:27 AM »
Obama in Kenya:  "I am so proud to come back home" 




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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1769 on: September 14, 2011, 12:10:26 PM »
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=342465
The hole in Ann Dunham's biography
Exclusive: Jack Cashill reveals lack of details surrounding birth of baby Barack
Posted: September 07, 2011
1:36 pm Eastern

By Jack Cashill

In the last year or so respected publishers have released four biographies by mainstream authors that feature, as a central fact, the birth of President Barack Obama to his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Ann), in 1961.

Given that there has been a certain controversy about the birth, one might expect that each of the books would, if not settle the controversy, at least deal with it intelligently. None of them does.

These books include a 2010 biography of the president, "The Bridge," by New Yorker editor David Remnick; a 2011 biography of Dunham, "A Singular Woman," by New York Times reporter Janny Scott; a 2011 biography of Barack Obama Sr., "The Other Barack," by Sally Jacobs of the Boston Globe; and a 2010 multi-generational biography of the Obama family, "The Obamas," by BBC journalist Peter Firstbrook.

Clearly, if Dunham had not given birth to Obama, none of these four books would have been written. Yet the authors are shockingly mute on the subject of Dunham's pregnancy and Obama's birth.

University of Hawaii records show that Dunham left school at the end of January in 1961, and subsequent divorce records suggest a Maui wedding on Feb. 2. This is where the paper trial ends.

As to the Maui wedding, everyone writes with uncertainty. Jacobs says only, "The couple apparently had a quiet civil ceremony." Scott writes that the wedding took place "reportedly on the island of Maui." (Italics mine)

In Remnick's account, Dunham tells no one about the wedding, but in Firstbrook's imaginative account, the parents accompany the happy couple on the trip to Maui. As Obama has conceded, there are no wedding photos and no documents.

After the wedding, Dunham disappears from the record. Not one of these authors provides the slightest hint of what she may have done or where she may have gone between Feb. 2 and Aug. 4 of 1961. Nada. Not a word.

All of these books were published with the eligibility controversy in full flower. The informed reader would expect the authors, especially Dunham's biographer Scott, to at least comment on the absence of information. None does.

The reporting on Obama's birth is, if anything, even more evasive. All four rely on the certification of live birth (COLB) first posted online in 2008 by the Daily Kos.

Since the COLB does not specify a hospital, the authors seem to have accepted Obama's post-election claim to having been born at Kapiolani. Before the election, however, news reports routinely cited Honolulu's Queen's Medical Center as Obama's birthplace.

Of the four authors, only Firstbrook acknowledges the dispute surrounding the COLB, and he does so with a proud indifference to the facts.

According to Firstbrook, the claim that the COLB is not a "proper birth certificate" was "debunked by media investigations, government officials in Hawaii, and judicial reviews."

If nothing else, when Obama presented his "proper birth certificate," one much more detailed than the COLB, he exposed the debunking for the agitprop it was. How authentic that birth certificate is, of course, remains to be seen.

As to the "media investigations," no reporters have gone into more depth about this couple and their child than the four biographers in question. And yet all are silent on the details of Obama's birth.

As to those "officials in Hawaii," one of them was Tim Adams, who served as the senior elections clerk for the City and County of Honolulu in the run-up to the 2008 election.

In his recently posted masters thesis, Adams repeats what he told the media in 2010 before being gagged by his university and menaced by the Obots and their media allies.

"There is no hospital record of [Obama's] birth in Honolulu and the Hawaii Department of Health told us in the Elections Office that there was no birth certificate."

To a person, these biographers fail to provide the kind of supporting evidence that would refute Adams' claim, either with photos or personal testimony.

There is no talk of Dunham's morning sickness, her labor pains, the worried grandparents, the frantic drive to the hospital, the grueling birth, the crying baby, the contented mom, the dubious looks from the hospital staff – the kind of details one would expect in any biography.

Nor do these biographers show any pictures of a pregnant Dunham or a newborn Obama. One has to wonder whether they could find no evidence or simply chose not to share what they did find.

The reader has no reason to trust any of them. If Firstbrook deceives through carelessness, the other three consciously dissemble to protect the Obama narrative of a loving little multicultural family.

As I have documented in these pages earlier, Remnick, Jacobs and Scott all finesse the timeline to make it appear that Dunham and the baby lived with Obama Sr. for at least six months after the birth.

The verifiable paper trail, which picks up weeks after the Aug. 4 birth with Obama Sr.'s INS documents and Dunham's University of Washington records, proves otherwise.

Along with the testimony of Dunham's Seattle friends, these documents confirm that the future president, despite his claim to the contrary, never lived in a family with Ann Dunham and Obama Sr.

No matter. In the age of Obama, the media "debunkers" have turned their sights not on the powers that be but on those who would challenge those powers.

Anti-journalism at its finest!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1770 on: September 14, 2011, 10:03:06 PM »
Kapiolani Medical Center Confirms 'African' Never Used On Birth Certificates in 1961 or Now
Birther Report ^ | SEPTEMBER 14, 2011 | Birther Report
Posted on September 14, 2011 11:59:18 PM EDT by RobinMasters

We spent a very long (and hot) day talking with many people on the island and filming several scenes with the “big check” that will be compiled into a video once we get home. There was one conversation, however, that I want to share with you tonight. We spent at least a couple hours at the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children today. I got a call this morning from a reporter with the Honolulu Civil Beat who wanted to interview us, so he met us at the Medical Center. His story should run tomorrow.

After that interview, we went into the records office, and Miki asked to file a form to get her son's birth records. While she was filling out the form, I happened to overhear a woman who was sitting at a desk say something about the “race” field on a birth certificate she was preparing. I asked her if this was the office that responsible for filling out the birth certificate information for babies born there, and she said that it was.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1771 on: September 14, 2011, 10:13:45 PM »
Obama in Kenya:  "I am so proud to come back home"  




I now totally agree there are some legit questions around this birth thing.  but posts like this cloud it with bullshit.  Hell there are easily many Irish, German and Italians that would announce being proud to come back home while visiting the land of their heritage, or roots even though they are 2nd or 3rd gen in America lol.  That really doesn't mean jack shit.

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Sheriff Arpaio's posse to review Obama BC
« Reply #1772 on: September 17, 2011, 09:58:18 AM »
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=345685
Sheriff Arpaio's posse to review Obama BC
Famous Arizona lawman responds to citizen request to probe president
September 16, 2011
By Jerome R. Corsi

Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio in Arizona has constituted a special law enforcement posse to investigate allegations brought by members of the Surprise, Ariz., Tea Party that the birth certificate Barack Obama released to the public April 27 might be a forgery, WND has learned.

The posse, under the authority of Arpaio's office, will consist of two former law enforcement officers and two retired attorneys, headed by Michael Zullo, a retired police detective originally from Bergen County, N.J.

WND confirmed with Zullo and with Arpaio's office that the investigation into the Obama birth certificate has been sanctioned fully by Arpaio's office. The investigation, they said, will be conducted with "utmost diligence," and the investigators will be authorized to utilize subpoena power.

Arpaio spokesman Lt. Justin Griffin told WND that Arpaio's posse will consist entirely of volunteers and will avoid incurring any cost to the taxpayers of Maricopa County.

"I am very grateful that Sheriff Joe Arpaio is a sincere man of his word and a fearless, patriotic American," Brian Reilly, a spokesman for the Surprise Tea Party, told WND.

The document in question, which has been described as a fraud by numerous analysts and experts in imaging, documents and computers:

Reilly had less kind words for his representatives in Washington, D.C.

"Congress should be ashamed," he said. "They didn't even have the backbone to uphold their constitutional oaths of office to initiate this investigation."

Arpaio's move is unprecedented in that WND research can find no other instance in United States history in which a county sheriff's office has undertaken an investigation of a document pertaining to a sitting United States president.

Arpaio's decision follows a meeting held in his office Aug. 17 with a group of Surprise Tea Party representatives, including Reilly. Four days later, the group presented a formal letter to Arpaio expressing concern that should Obama use a forged birth certificate to prove his eligibility for the 2012 presidential ballot in Arizona, the voting rights of the residents of Maricopa County could be irreparably compromised.

WND reported Aug. 21 that the letter formally stated the following charge: "The Surprise Tea Party is concerned that no law enforcement agency or other duly constituted government agency has conducted an investigation into the Obama birth certificate to determine if it is in fact an authentic copy of 1961 birth records on file for Barack Obama at the Hawaii Department of Health in Honolulu, or whether it, or they are forgeries."

The letter noted that to date, despite continuing legal challenges, the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to make public or to release to independent forensic examination by qualified examiners the original Obama birth records held in secret in the Hawaii Department of Health files.

"Having exhausted all available governmental and law enforcement resources at our disposal, we are turning to you as the highest law enforcement officer in Maricopa County where we reside," the Surprise Tea Party explained in the letter.

"We are asking for your assistance because you have a demonstrated history of enforcing Arizona laws in Maricopa County, even when enforcing those laws is unpopular in Arizona or out-of-favor with the wishes of a federal government that may choose to ignore the law to the detriment of the residents of Maricopa County."

The letter expressed confidence that Arpaio will take his law enforcement responsibilities seriously and "will not ignore the request or delegate the request to some other government or law enforcement agency in the state or the federal government that will choose to not respond to our requests for political reasons."

"But, quite frankly, Sheriff Arpaio, you are our last resort to see Arizona statutes enforced to preserve the integrity of Arizona election law," the letter continued.

Read the letter in its entirely here.

Reilly told WND that he and the Surprise Tea Party believed the posse constituted by Arpaio was an appropriate response to their written request.

"We picked the right man, in the right county, in the right state, at the right time to determine the truth about who Barack Obama is and whether he has presented a fraudulent or authentic birth certificate to the American public," Reilly said. "With God's help, Sheriff Arpaio will find the truth."

In addition to the letter, the Surprise Tea Party delivered to Arpaio a petition with 242 signatures that were obtained at the Aug. 17 meeting.

The group also gave to Arpaio a binder containing the published reports of 20 experts with established credentials who conducted a forensic examination of the computer PDF file published on the White House website and the photocopies of the Obama birth certificate handed out by the White House to the press during the April 27 press conference.

The Arizona State Legislature on April 15 passed a bill that would have required candidates for the presidency to prove to the Arizona secretary of state their eligibility to be president under Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution. Arizona Republican Gov. Janet Brewer, however, vetoed the bill.

The presentation WND senior staff reporter Jerome R. Corsi made to the Surprise Tea Party in Surprise, Ariz., Aug. 17, can be seen in its entirety on YouTube:


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1773 on: September 17, 2011, 08:07:10 PM »
why do you keep this thread going???..you've been proven wrong months ago you fool

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1774 on: September 18, 2011, 05:50:09 PM »
Elite team of 5 assigned to seek truth on Obama (Arpaio "Cold Case" posse)
World Net Daily ^ | September 18, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on September 18, 2011 8:46:58 PM EDT by Seizethecarp

Arizona's Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio told WND he has assigned a five-member "Cold Case Posse" to investigate the authenticity of Barack Obama's birth certificate.

Arpaio explained to WND that there are over 3,000 people who participate in his office's volunteer posse program.

Arpaio explained to WND that in the final analysis, all decisions stop with him.

"I will have the ultimate authority to decide," he emphasized. "I gave the Cold Case Posse the authority to investigate, but the results of their investigation ultimately come to me and I will then decide how best to proceed from there."

Those wishing to contribute to the 501(c)3 supporting the Cold Case Posse investigation of the Obama birth certificate are asked to send contributions addressed to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office at: MCSO Cold Case Posse, P.O. Box 74374, Phoenix, Ariz., 85087.

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