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Title: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2014, 04:54:35 AM
I am looking at opening up my own private gym facility (personal training exclusively, for now).

So it's a small gym so to speak. I have not looked at or seen any decent equipment since I left US. I know we have a lot of gym owners as well as Coach, Hazbin and Basile who's expertise I value.

Any suggestions? What are the smart choices?

I HATE everything I have seen so far in Romania: local brands, Panatta, techno gym etc .. all insult any bodybuilding/engineering mind/body intelligence

If it weren't for the distance, I would say that some of Vince's customized stuff looks great and probably feels great too. I am also a student of how to build equipment according to the human body mechanics ..

I was a fan of Hammer Strength and Flex, Icarian equipment, but this was in the late nineties, early 2000's

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Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Rascal full on July 21, 2014, 05:02:20 AM
Good luck with opening your own gym that will be a proud moment in your life.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Frank Clairmonte on July 21, 2014, 05:04:40 AM
your future clients are already waiting

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Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Bosch on July 21, 2014, 05:11:04 AM
How big is the place and how much money you are planning to spend?
If you're short on money what kind of advice you wanna hear?
Importing big and heavy equipment obviously do cost some extra funds.
Stick to the local manufacturers, all in all it's just metal.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 21, 2014, 05:12:49 AM
I can't figure out what's wrong with Panatta, HS, Icarian or Flex ???
Every brand/line has good/average/poor machines, so I would never buy a whole line myself.
Focus on free weights, benches, racks and a good floor. That should be the foundation of a good gym.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2014, 05:14:20 AM
How big is the place and how much money you are planning to spend?
If you're short on money what kind of advice you wanna hear?
Importing big and heavy equipment obviously do cost some extra funds.
Stick to the local manufacturers, all in all it's just metal.
20K tops

locals are just horrid as far as biomechanics are concerned ..

200 sq meters tops so I need the bare minnimum stuff
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2014, 05:14:59 AM
I can't figure out what's wrong with Panatta, HS, Icarian or Flex ???
Every brand/line has good/average/poor machines, so I would never buy a whole line myself.
Focus on free weights, benches, racks and a good floor. That should be the foundation of a good gym.
Panatta were just terrible .. the rest were great

I AM A FAN OF MACHINES
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Simple Simon on July 21, 2014, 05:27:34 AM
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Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 21, 2014, 05:29:39 AM
Panatta were just terrible .. the rest were great

I AM A FAN OF MACHINES

I'm kind of lucky that I train on old lines of Panatta & Technogym. When it comes to machines, I strongly believe in simplicity. Hammer is a great example of this, but pretty expensive in Europe (import rates of steel). Buying only (?) machines becomes challenging with 20k, since an average commercial grade machine is 3000-5000 EUR, so that's 5-7 machines.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2014, 06:10:27 AM
I'm kind of lucky that I train on old lines of Panatta & Technogym. When it comes to machines, I strongly believe in simplicity. Hammer is a great example of this, but pretty expensive in Europe (import rates of steel). Buying only (?) machines only becomes challenging with 20k, since an average commercial grade machine is 3000-5000 EUR, so that's 5-7 machines.
forgot to mention, I want to get everything secon hand or used
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: bigmc on July 21, 2014, 06:18:48 AM
find a gym that is closing down you will get there equipment dirt cheap
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2014, 06:25:10 AM
find a gym that is closing down you will get there equipment dirt cheap
good point but in Romania the gyms have dismal stuff.. I need to handpick pieces of equipment. I am very perticular about the machines or the equipment I want to have in the gym. I will do that with dumbells/dumbell rack and simple stuff tou cannot go wrong with for sure
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 21, 2014, 06:26:08 AM
forgot to mention, I want to get everything secon hand or used

Then I would suggest that you buy a nineties line of Technogym. I haven't heard any complains from other members in my gym (pictured below), their shitty leg press machine excluded. The owner told me that getting spare parts isn't a problem.

(http://multisportcard.nl/uploads/vestigingen/40_ajehyp.jpg)
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Donny on July 21, 2014, 06:27:10 AM
I'm kind of lucky that I train on old lines of Panatta & Technogym. When it comes to machines, I strongly believe in simplicity. Hammer is a great example of this, but pretty expensive in Europe (import rates of steel). Buying only (?) machines only becomes challenging with 20k, since an average commercial grade machine is 3000-5000 EUR, so that's 5-7 machines.
yeah Hammer are great and simplicity as you wrote is important. you have to think of future maintenance too.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Cleanest Natural on July 21, 2014, 06:28:24 AM
Great looking gym. Kind of what I am shooting for. Except with rubber as floor. Cathy Le Francoise had a kick ass personal gym
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 21, 2014, 06:30:40 AM
Great looking gym. Kind of what I am shooting for. Except with rubber as floor. Cathy Le Francoise had a kick ass personal gym

Here's the first floor, which is made of rubber.

(http://multisportcard.nl/uploads/vestigingen/40_Tejada.jpg)
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: HonestBob on July 21, 2014, 07:39:37 AM
A good personal trainer with a limited budget and a knowledge of what works both commercially and for results would not ask this question.

He would buy racks, dip attachments, benches, free weights and some adjustable pulleys, and then add from there as his business developed.

Nor would he go on the internet and brag about megadosing a beginner.

Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: orion on July 21, 2014, 07:42:59 AM
I have a bench and bar I'd like to sell you.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2014, 07:46:04 AM
Unfortunately the cost of shipping will kill you but start here. I'll give the names of a couple of others when I get back to my computer..

www.usedgymequipment.com
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: BigCyp on July 21, 2014, 07:46:39 AM
You should open a calisthenics gym, with only one scaffolding pole that extends across the whole gym, mirrors on every wall/ceiling/floor and free iphone provided for members to take videos of eachother doing 'pull ups'
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2014, 07:47:38 AM
We are probably moving the gym in April and yes, I may start having some machines (there, I said it)
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 21, 2014, 07:55:01 AM
Unfortunately the cost of shipping will kill you but start here. I'll give the names of a couple of others when I get back to my computer..

www.usedgymequipment.com

The sell only recent stuff from Technogym, meh :-\
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: the trainer on July 21, 2014, 07:57:41 AM
Why is it that sev can only make people skinny and he cannot make them big.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Vince B on July 21, 2014, 07:59:50 AM
We are probably moving the gym in April and yes, I may start having some machines (there, I said it)

 :o ::)
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 21, 2014, 08:04:41 AM
:o ::)

At least his blue stars are legit ones..
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: crownshep on July 21, 2014, 08:07:33 AM
Buy some steel,design it yourself to what you think is best,then have it made.If you can weld,do it yourself.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2014, 08:10:07 AM
:o ::)

Why the rolling eye's Vince? lol
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 21, 2014, 08:16:37 AM
I am looking at opening up my own private gym facility (personal training exclusively, for now).

So it's a small gym so to speak. I have not looked at or seen any decent equipment since I left US. I know we have a lot of gym owners as well as Coach, Hazbin and Basile who's expertise I value.

Any suggestions? What are the smart choices?

I HATE everything I have seen so far in Romania: local brands, Panatta, techno gym etc .. all insult any bodybuilding/engineering mind/body intelligence

If it weren't for the distance, I would say that some of Vince's customized stuff looks great and probably feels great too. I am also a student of how to build equipment according to the human body mechanics ..

I was a fan of Hammer Strength and Flex, Icarian equipment, but this was in the late nineties, early 2000's

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=395976.0;attach=430990;image)



I would look for a gym that's being liquidated or gone bankrupt.  Schools and colleges are also great places to get equipment...never hurts to give a call and ask to purchase their equipment.  However, I honestly would get free weight and "plate loaded" equipment as its more widely available in your country than getting machine weights.  If you do intend on buying from another country, try to rent a truck and driver and bring it back on your own rather than pay a shipping company.  Also buy or obtain all of your equipment from the same place
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2014, 08:19:56 AM
Great looking gym. Kind of what I am shooting for. Except with rubber as floor. Cathy Le Francoise had a kick ass personal gym

It's in her home in El Monte, Ca. Of all places to live why she chose El Monte I'll never figure out.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Natural Man on July 21, 2014, 08:26:30 AM
You will fail.

I thought you were already working in a gym, owning it. Why start a new one.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Coach is Back! on July 21, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
You will fail.

I thought you were already working in a gym, owning it. Why start a new one.

Are you referring to me?
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Bosch on July 21, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
20K tops

locals are just horrid as far as biomechanics are concerned ..

200 sq meters tops so I need the bare minnimum stuff

Since you are so scrupolous about machines, internet advice is not the best thing to ask for, just take a car and visit large fitness centers, they have a lot of machines and maybe even willing to sell something. Spend a day or two in real life, man.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: funk51 on July 21, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
lifefitness and york. ;D
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: wolfrittner on July 21, 2014, 05:38:38 PM
Why is it that sev can only make people skinny and he cannot make them big.
Question of the month!!
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Vince B on July 21, 2014, 09:59:58 PM
Buy some steel,design it yourself to what you think is best,then have it made.If you can weld,do it yourself.

Definitely a foolish thing to do even if you have a workshop. Much, much cheaper to buy used equipment.

I can buy Chinese made gym equipment cheaper than I can buy the steel and parts.

I found that designing equipment took a few goes to get it right.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 22, 2014, 04:12:14 AM
Definitely a foolish thing to do even if you have a workshop. Much, much cheaper to buy used equipment.

I can buy Chinese made gym equipment cheaper than I can buy the steel and parts.

I found that designing equipment took a few goes to get it right.

(http://oi48.tinypic.com/30wv481.jpg)
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: wolfrittner on July 22, 2014, 04:15:26 AM
You should open a calisthenics gym, with only one scaffolding pole that extends across the whole gym, mirrors on every wall/ceiling/floor and free iphone provided for members to take videos of eachother doing 'pull ups'
:D :D :D :D Not to forget an Area to take Pict. of his prepared food for the day.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 22, 2014, 04:31:48 AM
(http://oi48.tinypic.com/30wv481.jpg)

 :)
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Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: funk51 on July 22, 2014, 12:34:32 PM
 ;D gold baby gold.... ::)
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: tom joad on July 22, 2014, 12:37:40 PM
Sev, does your lovely wife work or are you the sole breadwinner in your family?
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: Slik on July 22, 2014, 05:32:24 PM
;D gold baby gold.... ::)
tell me bout the gold plates. They r all diff. I have the exact plates w the ruff edges. Those r billiard I think?  I remember weider made gold plates back in the 80s. Thx
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: funk51 on July 23, 2014, 06:08:27 AM
tell me bout the gold plates. They r all diff. I have the exact plates w the ruff edges. Those r billiard I think?  I remember weider made gold plates back in the 80s. Thx
the front straight barbell is an old billard set my father gave me when i was 8 years old . the golden billard triumph set . i'm 62 years old now i refurbed the plates but not the barbell itself. here is a pic of the training manual that came wuth it, not mine[mine is actually in better shape].
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: funk51 on July 23, 2014, 06:10:32 AM
 ;D first plate is from that early set rest are the updates through the years. watch ebay i'm going to put some ferrigno and saxon plates on soon.
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 16, 2014, 03:46:48 AM
Title: Re: Inquiry about gym equipment
Post by: gracie bjj on August 16, 2014, 03:58:08 AM
honestly the gym equipment u listed from the 90,s is the best ever imo, HAMMER STRENGTH is a must,no doubt,ICARIAN is a must also as well as FLEX, any respectable gym has them, u gotta go with your gut instinct on it.  just think about the peices u enjoyed most n the peices u felt the movement from start to finish,ive always noticed the more hardcore folks go with the icarian n flex and hammer,when they r not at the power rack or on the flat bench,squat racks ect  ;)as long as u have a fair amount of dumbells, flat benches,incline,decline,squat racks,leg press,seated delt ect,u know the basic shit,u will b fine,throw in acouple treadmills n recumbnent bikes n your on your way.then little by little add afew peices here n ther, u been in the game awhile n i think u will b highly successful doing it n more importantly u r doing something u love