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Title: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 25, 2020, 06:29:34 PM
 ???

do you guys think the "vaccine" will become the new normal?

schools will require it, being able to fly/travel, many employers/office leases etc will require it?  you can semi avoid it but you will be out of luck with most of life. i have a feeling we will get boxed in and it could be a requirement?  ???

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: robcguns on November 25, 2020, 06:31:11 PM
If it’s required in schools my kids will be home schooled. I work for myself so I’m not taking it and my wife don’t work so she won’t take it.we don’t fly at all so fuck them if they make it mandatory.we ain’t taking shit.

But yes I agree they will.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 25, 2020, 06:35:42 PM
If it’s required in schools my kids will be home schooled. I work for myself so I’m not taking it and my wife don’t work so she won’t take it.we don’t fly at all so fuck them if they make it mandatory.we ain’t taking shit.

But yes I agree they will.

yes... I have a feeling it will be required if you want to live and be part of society...

personal note: not political but why isnt the world pissed off at China way more? we are fighting with each other (Red vs blue) and china basically date raped the entire world and got away with it.

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 25, 2020, 06:43:49 PM
there will be 100% compliance
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tatoo on November 25, 2020, 06:44:47 PM
yes... I have a feeling it will be required if you want to live and be part of society...

personal note: not political but why isnt the world pissed off at China way more? we are fighting with each other (Red vs blue) and china basically date raped the entire world and got away with it.

exactly what i said in another thread... it should be "us against them"... this is china fuckin fault and its our governments for making us choose sides.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 25, 2020, 06:45:33 PM
And up until now, not a college degree in this thread.

LMFAO

Sun Devil here so yeah yeah haha 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 25, 2020, 06:49:15 PM
exactly what i said in another thread... it should be "us against them"... this is china fuckin fault and its our governments for making us choose sides.

they financial damage, they political and social damage is out of this world and the average person is not pissed at China but shaming others for not wearing their masks and other small ball BS.

I have no idea how you hand China the bill for this mess..... but they did us dirty and got away with it.

I am a capitalist and glad to see DOW 30,000 and the US economy is hanging in and will bounce back soon. the mortgage biz was solid in 2020.  i saved so many clients money with refinances to reduce rates/pay off debts.

I am optimistic in 2021

but:

masks are here for a long time
and the vaccine.... sigh could be required.

I wonder if we get it in Mexico wink wink  ;)


night before thanksgiving used to be a bangin night but due to masks.... its pointless

cocktails, no masks, big parties, drunk chics, cigars and big meals.

now I am in sweats  on getbig lol.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 25, 2020, 06:57:04 PM
like the mask "mandate" the sheep will fall for it.

the schools will threaten, to make you take it. if you unenroll they will give up on it

same with goverment jobs they will threaten to losers on welfare to take it or no free bennies

but those of us who wont take it

will rule those who do


 do you wear a mask like a bitch? if not then good

if you don't want a RFID contact tracing chip inside you

Id advise you to wake up and not take the fake vaccine for the fake germ scam

or be like lurker and sell your soul to china

biiiiaaaaatchh
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 25, 2020, 06:59:29 PM



 do you wear a mask like a bitch? if not then good


I was refused service at a gas station for not having a mask on - ;/
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 25, 2020, 07:04:03 PM
then buy someplace else,

pretty simple
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on November 25, 2020, 07:09:16 PM
HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you guys are like months behind!!!!!!!!!! but last time I posted something I was told that I was melting down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The vaccines will be 100% MANDATORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so glad my Kids are grown and out of the house, and I live by myself, no STUPID CUNTY FEMALE to try and WRECK ME!!!!!! the time is here where good men will have to do bad things! These vaccines will not be physically forced, they will take things from you, so you cannot be a member of society unless you take their mRNA VAX! to the point those of you with little Kids will have them removed , unless you comply!!!!!

Good Luck
Chubz
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on November 25, 2020, 07:10:14 PM
then buy someplace else,

pretty simple

This is just the tip of the iceberg buddy, eventually their will be no place else to go!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 25, 2020, 07:14:19 PM
Best 'spiracy theiry I've heard is they'll urge compliance, some will some wont, thereby dividing the world into compliers and non-compliers. Then they release Rona 2.0 which is 100% lethal unless you've been vaxed. Boom. The only people left are sheeps.

No college, huh.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 25, 2020, 07:22:11 PM
This is just the tip of the iceberg buddy, eventually their will be no place else to go!

i get it pal

money is the only way out

electric cars dont need gas

can charge at my own house

i work for myself

i dont need a vaccine

cannot be forced either

i have a private 141 pilots license

no travel restrictions for me

smart people wont be controlled
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: honest on November 25, 2020, 07:28:28 PM
China will be off the hook now Trump is gone. No way Biden or any other leader in the west is going to stand up and ensure that the world gets the answers to what really happened. IM not even sure Trump would have got to the bottom of it, China is a different animal being communists basically the usual tactic of unsettling the population won't work.

The vaccine has to be mandatory look at the government response, I have a feeling it will be an annual thing as well.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Dave D on November 25, 2020, 07:35:50 PM
Didn't the government mandate certain vaccines in the 50's?

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: robcguns on November 25, 2020, 08:07:16 PM
yes... I have a feeling it will be required if you want to live and be part of society...

personal note: not political but why isnt the world pissed off at China way more? we are fighting with each other (Red vs blue) and china basically date raped the entire world and got away with it.

Exactly.China should be footing the bill for everything, the stimulus packages,testing,hospital bills and funerals etc...It’s all their fault.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on November 25, 2020, 08:35:25 PM
I'll find every single person that gets the vaccine and chop off their arm in which they received the injection.  All they will find is a big pile of little chopped off arms.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on November 25, 2020, 08:56:39 PM
I dont see what the big deal is? Remove the conspiracy theories and youre left with zero reasons not to take it and lots of reasons you should.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 25, 2020, 09:21:54 PM
zero reasons not to take it

the permanent altering of your DNA is a very good reason not to take it.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Agnostic007 on November 25, 2020, 09:40:17 PM
China will be off the hook now Trump is gone. No way Biden or any other leader in the west is going to stand up and ensure that the world gets the answers to what really happened. IM not even sure Trump would have got to the bottom of it, China is a different animal being communists basically the usual tactic of unsettling the population won't work.

The vaccine has to be mandatory look at the government response, I have a feeling it will be an annual thing as well.

Im sorry, the Rona has been with us since Feb. What answers did Trump get in 9 months?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Dave D on November 25, 2020, 10:20:36 PM
Im sorry, the Rona has been with us since Feb. What answers did Trump get in 9 months?

Well he said he wasn't sure if Trump did get any answers  but in Trumps defense he did call it the Chinese Virus and China Virus and was labeled a racist.......
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: longtimereader on November 25, 2020, 10:39:20 PM
I dont see what the big deal is? Remove the conspiracy theories and youre left with zero reasons not to take it and lots of reasons you should.

If you really want to understand, read/listen to the following book:

https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248

How to End the Autism Epidemic J.B. Handley

There is way to much info to get into but vaccines in general are a huge scam, give it a serious read.

If you want to find a "debunk" of this book, you won't. Medics pretend it does not exist because it can't be refuted.

But not enough people are reading.



I did not vaccinate my son, who is now 2.

Now wrap your mind around this.... No pediatrician will do a checkup on my son because "he poses a risk to others by not being vaccinated". He is 100% healthy and has not been sick once.

Going out anywhere is stressful for me since I do not wear a mask, always have to be ready to debate. Only thing that works is to calmly claim you have a medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask. Do not comply
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: mac33 on November 25, 2020, 10:52:36 PM
they financial damage, they political and social damage is out of this world and the average person is not pissed at China but shaming others for not wearing their masks and other small ball BS.

I have no idea how you hand China the bill for this mess..... but they did us dirty and got away with it.

I am a capitalist and glad to see DOW 30,000 and the US economy is hanging in and will bounce back soon. the mortgage biz was solid in 2020.  i saved so many clients money with refinances to reduce rates/pay off debts.

I am optimistic in 2021

but:

masks are here for a long time
and the vaccine.... sigh could be required.

I wonder if we get it in Mexico wink wink  ;)


night before thanksgiving used to be a bangin night but due to masks.... its pointless

cocktails, no masks, big parties, drunk chics, cigars and big meals.

now I am in sweats  on getbig lol.

As far as how you hand the bill to China, their way, commie style. They always nationalize all private property, so, seize all their assets, firms, money, real estate, etc in west countries - but that is of course impossible to do because of the investments we have with them, their power in world and over US will only skyrocket through china Joe.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on November 25, 2020, 10:54:31 PM
If you really want to understand, read/listen to the following book:

https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248

How to End the Autism Epidemic J.B. Handley

There is way to much info to get into but vaccines in general are a huge scam, give it a serious read.

If you want to find a "debunk" of this book, you won't. Medics pretend it does not exist because it can't be refuted.

But not enough people are reading.



I did not vaccinate my son, who is now 2.

Now wrap your mind around this.... No pediatrician will do a checkup on my son because "he poses a risk to others by not being vaccinated". He is 100% healthy and has not been sick once.

Going out anywhere is stressful for me since I do not wear a mask, always have to be ready to debate. Only thing that works is to calmly claim you have a medical condition that prevents you from wearing a mask. Do not comply

Wait so not wearing a mask means what to you? Does it make you a badass outlaw of some kind? I was like you, once. Then i realized wearing a mask isnt shit and i encounter fewer problems in my daily life by wearing them but i sm still a badass outlaw in spirit.

Oh and you have still provided zero rational reasons why I (or anyone) ought to be hesitant to get vaccinated against spooky scary cookvid.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: mac33 on November 25, 2020, 11:00:10 PM
I`m all for vaccines, but rushed vaccines should be treated with a grain of salt at least.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 26, 2020, 12:59:45 AM
I dont see what the big deal is? Remove the conspiracy theories and youre left with zero reasons not to take it and lots of reasons you should.

1, it has been rushed to market and hasn't been vetted as carefully as other vaccines.

2, I might choose to take it after letting others be guinea pigs, but if they mandate it then that's the government claiming control over what's on this side of my skin. As a point of principle, I'll never agree to that.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 26, 2020, 01:26:07 AM
the permanent altering of your DNA is a very good reason not to take it.

this is the rona (a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA):

(https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Multiple-sequence-alignment-between-spike-proteins-of-2019-nCoV-and-SARS-1024x811.jpg)

those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.

hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.

covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.

thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.

its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.

that is roughly how the vaccine will change your DNA.

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: nycwit on November 26, 2020, 01:42:46 AM
You dumb fucks blaming this on CHINA, JUST SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE!
CHINA ISNT DOING THIS TO YOU! ITS YOU OWN FUCKIN COUNTRY! YOU CLUELESS FUCKS!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Darren Avey on November 26, 2020, 02:40:39 AM
Anyone trying to force it on me will have the needle shoved through their eye and then they can watch with the other eye as I remove and eat it.
Then I will do the same with the other eye
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: pellius on November 26, 2020, 02:49:51 AM
the permanent altering of your DNA is a very good reason not to take it.

Is that how it works?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 26, 2020, 02:54:13 AM
Is that how it works?

yes
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 26, 2020, 03:57:10 AM
(a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA)

those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.

hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.

covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.

thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.

its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.

also... this 'new DNA'... is in effect artificially procured 'complementary DNA' (cDNA)... which is - patentable.

that gets real dark, real quick.

tho that fun fact will b the least of your problems... should u take this.. mark.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Griffith on November 26, 2020, 04:31:00 AM
???

do you guys think the "vaccine" will become the new normal?

schools will require it, being able to fly/travel, many employers/office leases etc will require it?  you can semi avoid it but you will be out of luck with most of life. i have a feeling we will get boxed in and it could be a requirement?  ???

Several airlines have said having a vaccine would be compulsory to board their plane as well as possibly a 'COVID-19 Passport' as proof of this.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 26, 2020, 04:39:32 AM

Most sheeple will gladly take it without hesitation. 

Not me. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Griffith on November 26, 2020, 04:45:45 AM
Most sheeple will gladly take it without hesitation. 

Not me.

I don't want a vaccine either but it might not be possible to travel overseas without one.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 26, 2020, 04:57:51 AM
I don't want a vaccine either but it might not be possible to travel overseas without one.

I feel sorry for those who have to travel.  Travel now, die of cancer later. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tatoo on November 26, 2020, 05:41:39 AM
You dumb fucks blaming this on CHINA, JUST SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE!
CHINA ISNT DOING THIS TO YOU! ITS YOU OWN FUCKIN COUNTRY! YOU CLUELESS FUCKS!

zipperhead
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2020, 06:11:51 AM
I'm taking it as soon as it gets out. What concerns me is this vaccine wasn't made the conventional way vaccines are made. My daughter was explaining this to me and she knows a lot on this topic. It's really cutting edge how they did this. I do understand people's concern about this new technology they used.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: prowlermaniac on November 26, 2020, 07:22:43 AM
100% can see this.  It won’t be mandatory in the sense that you have military deployed to vaccinate everyone, No fucking chance.  What i can see happening is everything from airlines to grocery stores mandating vaccine certificates to enter essentially deeming anyone who doesn’t take the vaccine utterly helpless.  Who knows the long term effects of this vaccine.  Many doctors, who coincidentally are being silenced, have come out against this type of vaccine.  This is also Modernas first vaccine.  Idk about you guys but I don’t want to the test dummy for a rushed vaccine by a rookie.  I’ll take my chances by living my normal, healthy life.  Many in my area are simply not complying anymore.  No masks, pushing back against curfew and mandated shutdowns.  This needs to happens across the country soon or were all fucked
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 26, 2020, 07:45:24 AM
Liberals will want to give the vaccine to the masses ready to violently rise up against them.

It will be revised to keep people docile so they are easier to control.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 26, 2020, 09:00:32 AM
100% can see this.  It won’t be mandatory in the sense that you have military deployed to vaccinate everyone, No fucking chance.  What i can see happening is everything from airlines to grocery stores mandating vaccine certificates to enter essentially deeming anyone who doesn’t take the vaccine utterly helpless.  Who knows the long term effects of this vaccine.  Many doctors, who coincidentally are being silenced, have come out against this type of vaccine.  This is also Modernas first vaccine.  Idk about you guys but I don’t want to the test dummy for a rushed vaccine by a rookie.  I’ll take my chances by living my normal, healthy life.  Many in my area are simply not complying anymore.  No masks, pushing back against curfew and mandated shutdowns.  This needs to happens across the country soon or were all fucked

I could see that kind of soft enforcement shit happening. Fine, I'll forge a fucking certificate. What they look like won't be a big secret and it'll be a short lived trend domestically. And if it's just a private company's rules then it's not a crime.

Not playing along. Plays poorly with others.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: longtimereader on November 26, 2020, 09:26:20 AM
Wait so not wearing a mask means what to you? Does it make you a badass outlaw of some kind? I was like you, once. Then i realized wearing a mask isnt shit and i encounter fewer problems in my daily life by wearing them but i sm still a badass outlaw in spirit.

Oh and you have still provided zero rational reasons why I (or anyone) ought to be hesitant to get vaccinated against spooky scary cookvid.

If you want comprehensive rational reason, please read:

https://www.amazon.com/How-Autism-Epidemic-J-B-Handley/dp/1603588248

How to End the Autism Epidemic


Ill give you 3 quick examples:

$2 out of every current vaccine goes to payout vaccine injury victims, it is estimated that only 1% of vaccine injuries are reported, doctors are a major roadblock to reporting as they always say it is not the vaccine:

https://www.hrsa.gov/sites/default/files/hrsa/vaccine-compensation/data/data-statistics-report.pdf

When the head of vaccine court wanted to advertise the program to raise awareness, congress shut his idea down. very few people know that vaccine manufacturers are 100% liability free




Vaccines are not fully safety tested, here is a link to an insert from the current MMR vaccine:

https://www.fda.gov/media/75191/download

"M-M-R II vaccine has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential or impairment of fertility."

Same is true for every other vaccine and will be true for the covid vaccine. Cancer and fertility problems are far more prevalent than covid, taking an untested vaccine that alters your immune system (immune system is the #1 defense against cancer) carries risk.




There is an ongoing lawsuit involving Merck and the federal government that alleges the Merck lied about their mumps vaccine effectives to gain market share and make competitors option obsolete. Same could be happening with rushed covid vaccine:

https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/merck-mumps-motions-whistleblowers-the-actual-story/









Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: longtimereader on November 26, 2020, 09:31:04 AM
Wait so not wearing a mask means what to you? Does it make you a badass outlaw of some kind? I was like you, once. Then i realized wearing a mask isnt shit and i encounter fewer problems in my daily life by wearing them but i sm still a badass outlaw in spirit.

Oh and you have still provided zero rational reasons why I (or anyone) ought to be hesitant to get vaccinated against spooky scary cookvid.

Not wearing a mask is an easy way to resist for now, when I don't wear a mask, Ill always see others pull theirs down or take it off. Fight now before you are required to show proof of vaccination to grocery shop.


The premise of wearing a "face-covering" is flawed, It would be extremely foolish to rely on others properly wearing a mask to protect you from such a deadly virus. Only you are responsible for you safety. If I felt the virus was a danger, I would wear a respirator that protects me, I would not be an idiot trusting others to wear "facecoverings" that do not have any standards to protect me.

I do not go along with stupidity, I actually have a sheep head Halloween mask that I wear to places when I don't feel like arguing about masks. The reaction is good, helping people to wake up
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: residue on November 26, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
forum of men who routinely inject Chinese/Indian/Balkan bathtub runoff now concerned about what gets injected into their bodies
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Bevo on November 26, 2020, 10:16:36 AM
zipperhead

Wop bastard :D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Bevo on November 26, 2020, 10:17:24 AM
forum of men who routinely inject Chinese/Indian/Balkan bathtub runoff now concerned about what gets injected into their bodies

The irony, right  ;D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 26, 2020, 11:19:32 AM
forum of men who routinely inject Chinese/Indian/Balkan bathtub runoff now concerned about what gets injected into their bodies

Point taken

our call to make those decisions

vs being painted into a corner to take the vaccine
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on November 26, 2020, 12:04:10 PM
this is the rona (a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA):

(https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Multiple-sequence-alignment-between-spike-proteins-of-2019-nCoV-and-SARS-1024x811.jpg)

those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.

hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.

covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.

thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.

its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.

that is roughly how the vaccine will change your DNA.

How do you know all of this is true and factual?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: avxo on November 26, 2020, 12:04:44 PM
Is that how it works?

No. mRNA vaccines do not "alter your DNA" and they don't "include the virus".
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: pellius on November 26, 2020, 12:25:01 PM
You dumb fucks blaming this on CHINA, JUST SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE!
CHINA ISNT DOING THIS TO YOU! ITS YOU OWN FUCKIN COUNTRY! YOU CLUELESS FUCKS!

LOL! There's always one kook in the bunch. The one who thinks he knows all the deep dark secrets in the world. A nobody that someone has access to back room dark ops. The one who is the enlightened one and sees the rest as "clueless".

What a sad joke you are. OK, so you know the "real" truth. So what are you going to do? Jack shit. You will horde toilet paper, ammo, can goods, and bottled water and sit in your little hovel patting yourself on the back that you're ahead of the game and the rest will be victims. This time next year life will go on and you will still be preaching how the government wants to make us all sick and put us in concentration camps because they will be so great for the tax base and cause a windfall of profits for the government.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: nycwit on November 26, 2020, 01:23:57 PM
LOL! There's always one kook in the bunch. The one who thinks he knows all the deep dark secrets in the world. A nobody that someone has access to back room dark ops. The one who is the enlightened one and sees the rest as "clueless".

What a sad joke you are. OK, so you know the "real" truth. So what are you going to do? Jack shit. You will horde toilet paper, ammo, can goods, and bottled water and sit in your little hovel patting yourself on the back that you're ahead of the game and the rest will be victims. This time next year life will go on and you will still be preaching how the government wants to make us all sick and put us in concentration camps because they will be so great for the tax base and cause a windfall of profits for the government.

You're the joke. This time next year, u won't even be here. What r u 75? I've seen ur pics, if ur not 75 yet, u should lay off the cigs, drugs, and whatever else ur doing. Cause u look like shit dawg! (FYI, I'm not a negro) I'm just talking in ur level so u can understand me.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 26, 2020, 01:29:21 PM
forum of men who routinely inject Chinese/Indian/Balkan bathtub runoff now concerned about what gets injected into their bodies
:D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2020, 01:36:32 PM
You dumb fucks blaming this on CHINA, JUST SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE!
CHINA ISNT DOING THIS TO YOU! ITS YOU OWN FUCKIN COUNTRY! YOU CLUELESS FUCKS!

It came from their virus lab. They kept it a secret and denied it. It spread around the entire world in record time. I'd say China is responsible. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: pellius on November 26, 2020, 06:04:07 PM
You're the joke. This time next year, u won't even be here. What r u 75? I've seen ur pics, if ur not 75 yet, u should lay off the cigs, drugs, and whatever else ur doing. Cause u look like shit dawg! (FYI, I'm not a negro) I'm just talking in ur level so u can understand me.

Nope. You're the joke. I'm sixty years old but I'm in better shape and look younger than you do. And I've proved it many times. Full set of abs, full head of hair, nary a wrinkle on my face. Have you posted a pic? No. And you won't because it is you that looks like shit.

I won't be here next year, 11/26/2021? You want to bet on it? Put your money where your mouth is? Say, a hundred dollars. Just for bragging rights and proving people like you, the same ones throughout history, are complete idiots and are always wrong. Always.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: pellius on November 26, 2020, 06:19:52 PM
It came from their virus lab. They kept it a secret and denied it. It spread around the entire world in record time. I'd say China is responsible.

You are talking to a person who has lost the capacity for rational thought. Although there is overwhelming evidence that no serious person or country doubts, and yet you have this whack job making absurd claims without offering a shred of evidence.

I often wonder what has happened in a person's life that caused them to turn out this way. They are absolutely clueless as to how they are perceived as just another crazy person by everybody else. No different from the mental cases you see standing on street corners talking to themselves or preaching the armageddon that never comes. They are quite self-satisfied that they alone know the true secrets and the rest of the world are "stupid dumb fucks".
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 26, 2020, 07:57:50 PM
How do you know all of this is true and factual?

cuz all of this is outside of my purview... allowing my unfettered mind to narrow in on reality, hopefully formulating a complete picture over time.

that post is a cursory view into this bullshit, and in line with the way your biology operates (reverse transcription).

a better question would b - how did hiv find its way into the rona?

not by accident:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag)

We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019- nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 26, 2020, 08:06:15 PM
 Mr 3 taco hair lotion obsession guy

You go right ahead and take your vaccine

Just keep your mouth shut to those who won’t

You have the right to poison yourself

And I have the right to not

It’s all about choices

As long as we do have a choice I’ll choose

And those of you who pretend we don’t have the right to choose

Take your medicine

Take it
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 26, 2020, 08:36:38 PM
Liberal women already protesting vaccine mandates.

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRDGvU3o0HmUap9IsWUDBIeaHggLypllv17wQ&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 26, 2020, 08:46:29 PM
Like all good, smart, modern day American men, I’m going to wait for Alyssa Milano to tell me what to do.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 26, 2020, 08:51:38 PM
Mr 3 taco hair lotion obsession guy

You go right ahead and take your vaccine

Just keep your mouth shut to those who won’t

You have the right to poison yourself

And I have the right to not

It’s all about choices

As long as we do have a choice I’ll choose

And those of you who pretend we don’t have the right to choose

Take your medicine

Take it


i will do my best to avoid as much as possible
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 26, 2020, 08:55:52 PM
Save your hair

And also maybe your life
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: SOMEPARTS on November 26, 2020, 09:01:34 PM
Happened to catch a MD on Fox today that said(paraphrase) "once we have the vaccine in March we can achieve herd immunity" ... talk about a moving target.

They change what the intended outcome is weekly, but the spending of money, shutdowns, curfews and control of dissent stay constant.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 26, 2020, 09:12:55 PM
If you can’t see

I’ll see it for you

If your weak

I’ll be strong for you

This entire thing

Is a wealth transfer

That is it

Nothing more

It’s wrong

It’s immoral

The fed and world banks want one thing

To be the lender and buyer of all physical assets

But people are like ants

We alll serve the queen

And if we don’t have one

We will just make it up

It sucks

But only way up

Is money

Then it will be you can’t  spend your money cause it’s digital and you’ll need permission 

They gave you crypto under the pretense it was freedom

Just like your cell phone

It will all be traced, taxed

Or just finally turned off
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2020, 04:14:46 AM
Like all good, smart, modern day American men, I’m going to wait for Alyssa Milano to tell me what to do.
#metoo
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: joswift on November 27, 2020, 02:18:21 PM
Like all good, smart, modern day American men, I’m going to wait for Alyssa Milano to tell me what to do.

Thats dumb... you should be waiting for Rose McGowan..
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 27, 2020, 02:49:37 PM
You dumb fucks blaming this on CHINA, JUST SHOWS HOW STUPID YOU DUMB FUCKS ARE!
CHINA ISNT DOING THIS TO YOU! ITS YOU OWN FUCKIN COUNTRY! YOU CLUELESS FUCKS!


Fuck off, it's from China !.

News for you "genious": all chinese international hotels bookings stoped in November 2019 , "guess WHY" .

Why there was no sick Chings in Italy or the U.S. , (Chinese New Year was on the 25th Janury) ,returning & infected Chings

spread shit in February/March . There was NO sick Italians or others in January 2020 !.

So, don't BS !.





Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 27, 2020, 02:54:19 PM
You're the joke. This time next year, u won't even be here. What r u 75? I've seen ur pics, if ur not 75 yet, u should lay off the cigs, drugs, and whatever else ur doing. Cause u look like shit dawg! (FYI, I'm not a negro) I'm just talking in ur level so u can understand me.


escrima is back, hey I pay for your ticket if you pop to Hawaii & spank Pellius  ;D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 27, 2020, 02:58:33 PM
You are talking to a person who has lost the capacity for rational thought. Although there is overwhelming evidence that no serious person or country doubts, and yet you have this whack job making absurd claims without offering a shred of evidence.

I often wonder what has happened in a person's life that caused them to turn out this way. They are absolutely clueless as to how they are perceived as just another crazy person by everybody else. No different from the mental cases you see standing on street corners talking to themselves or preaching the armageddon that never comes. They are quite self-satisfied that they alone know the true secrets and the rest of the world are "stupid dumb fucks".

After pocketing $ 500 000 000 from China , Tedros & WHO renamed WUHAN VIRUS to Covid - 19.

Why China CCP get so pissed if someone call's Wuhan virus : China Flu or Kang Flu  ;)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 27, 2020, 03:30:48 PM
NTD news is pretty good

they call it the CCP virus

and also

the vaccine will be mandatory for the sheep, because well they are sheep

buying gas Tres taco says

he needs a mask to insert his cc into a machine outside at the pump? or he went inside to pay? either way you dont need a mask in arizona

your not in north scottsdale or fountain hills?

you let poor people push you around at gas stations Mr  3 taco hair restoration guy?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 27, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
People will be torn between their natural skepticism about the vaccines because they will have been rolled out so rapidly and the hope that they will keep them from getting Covid. It is going to be a difficult decision. The flu shot has been around for a longtime and yet I only decided to get one this year. Although the shingles shots are only a few years old, I didn't get the series of two until recently, even though I've had shingles and know first hand how painful they can be and how long it takes to recover from them.

It seems likely that these vaccinations will be mandatory because of the widespread devastation Covid has caused. There will be folks like yourself who will do whatever they can to avoid getting vaccinated. It could get ugly. Or, it could be welcomed and accepted much like the polio vaccine was. I wish my parents had pursued the mumps vaccine when it first became available. I could have avoided having the mumps as a teenager, which caused the loss of one testicle. Hindsight is always easier than foresight.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Hypertrophy on November 27, 2020, 04:13:44 PM
People will be torn between their natural skepticism about the vaccines because they will have been rolled out so rapidly and the hope that they will keep them from getting Covid. It is going to be a difficult decision. The flu shot has been around for a longtime and yet I only decided to get one this year. Although the shingles shots are only a few years old, I didn't get the series of two until recently, even though I've had shingles and know first hand how painful they can be and how long it takes to recover from them.

It seems likely that these vaccinations will be mandatory because of the widespread devastation Covid has caused. There will be folks like yourself who will do whatever they can to avoid getting vaccinated. It could get ugly. Or, it could be welcomed and accepted much like the polio vaccine was. I wish my parents had pursued the mumps vaccine when it first became available. I could have avoided having the mumps as a teenager, which caused the loss of one testicle. Hindsight is always easier than foresight.

LOl - the only devastation was caused by left wing governors and their minions. I honestly can't believe you are a guy in his 70's. Where the fuck have you been to describe this flu as devastating? It has a 99.7% survival rate.  On the other hand, my grandfather had tuberculosis - and that had a nearly 15% death rate. Talk about devastation...
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 27, 2020, 05:14:13 PM
The response is not proportional to the threat. Mandating vaccination would be completely unjustified. A whole lot of people won't stand for it.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: daron_e on November 27, 2020, 05:32:39 PM
China will be off the hook now Trump is gone. No way Biden or any other leader in the west is going to stand up and ensure that the world gets the answers to what really happened. IM not even sure Trump would have got to the bottom of it, China is a different animal being communists basically the usual tactic of unsettling the population won't work.

The vaccine has to be mandatory look at the government response, I have a feeling it will be an annual thing as well.
With Trump gone?? Like he was doing ANYTHING about it LMFAO!!!!!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on November 27, 2020, 05:41:50 PM
Nothing to see here folks.. please move along

WTF??????

Total Deaths In the USA In 2018 (all causes)

(https://i.ibb.co/8jb3Krj/2018.png) (https://ibb.co/mH0sD9H)

Total Deaths In the USA in 2020 (all causes)

(https://i.ibb.co/pZpKJmD/2020.png) (https://ibb.co/gwCWzn1)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 27, 2020, 07:18:22 PM
Data scientist

Arguing over flawed Data

The only problem this country has concerning diseases is the media

Australia has tons of ships waiting outside China

Because of their support of America And our president

China is boycotting the delivery of their coal

Guess you cnn yahoo news guys won’t learn of little tid bits of info like that

You never trumpers want to get crushed economically?

Be my guest

We wont help you or hire you or protect you
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 27, 2020, 08:36:33 PM
The Chinese are shitty with Aus basically because Australia has finally said no to various Chinese demands and has repeatedly called for an investigation into covid origin.

They're really shitty. Using the language of war shitty. "If u make us enemy then we will be enemy!" Then go fuck yourself.

If Biden is spineless China will take advantage of it. They push and push and push. You have to draw a line with these fuckers.

Unfortunately, the only thing stopping them from military conquest of Aus is the US military. If Biden signals weakness the CCP might just roll in heavy.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: BILL ANVIL on November 28, 2020, 08:50:05 AM
The vaccine will be absolutely mandatory if Biden gets in office. And that's just the beginning.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on November 28, 2020, 09:35:47 AM
The response is not proportional to the threat. Mandating vaccination would be completely unjustified. A whole lot of people won't stand for it.

you mean like wearing masks everywhere, closing businesses for good, not seeing friends/family, etc...


you mean like that?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 28, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
I can see why you'd believe that if they caved before then they'll cave again but I don't see it playing out that way. There's way more data on mortality than when the mask laws were put in place. The government can more easily enforce closure of a public shop than know everyone has had a shot. But mostly, people are sick of the government's heavy hand. If they make vaccination a law people a lot of people are going to say fuck you and the new rules you just make up as you go along. Also, it wouldn't be national since plenty of red states wouldn't do it imo.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on November 28, 2020, 03:01:06 PM
there wil be 100% compliance

in time it will come down to a choice – consent or die (or worse).

that may sound silly to some... but that will in fact b the reality of it.

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on November 28, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
in time it will come down to a choice – consent or die (or worse).

that may sound silly to some... but that will in fact b the reality of it.

100% agreed


There's a reason they installed "smart" meters for electricity in everyone's homes and chips in every fckin' thing we own
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Megalodon on November 28, 2020, 03:16:11 PM
The powers that be are a minority. They don't expect you to stand up. They wouldn't know what to do if everyone did. For the time being, they love those that regurgitate corporate media's taking points on covid, the election, and whatever else pseudomales envision themselves to be brilliant by parroting.



This clever illustration is about turning things around:


(https://i.postimg.cc/9QxSLX2s/Eny-TBk-YWMAQc4xr.jpg)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 28, 2020, 03:22:34 PM
I can see why you'd believe that if they caved before then they'll cave again but I don't see it playing out that way. There's way more data on mortality than when the mask laws were put in place. The government can more easily enforce closure of a public shop than know everyone has had a shot. But mostly, people are sick of the government's heavy hand. If they make vaccination a law people a lot of people are going to say fuck you and the new rules you just make up as you go along. Also, it wouldn't be national since plenty of red states wouldn't do it imo.

Are you kidding?

Californians would line up for slaughter if CNN told them to.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 28, 2020, 03:25:26 PM
Are you kidding?

Californians would line up for slaughter if CNN told them to.

How about the Texans?

"Dammit Hoss, you ain't got no say in the matter!"

How's that gonna go?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 28, 2020, 03:29:56 PM
The Chinese are shitty with Aus basically because Australia has finally said no to various Chinese demands and has repeatedly called for an investigation into covid origin.

They're really shitty. Using the language of war shitty. "If u make us enemy then we will be enemy!" Then go fuck yourself.

If Biden is spineless China will take advantage of it. They push and push and push. You have to draw a line with these fuckers.

Unfortunately, the only thing stopping them from military conquest of Aus is the US military. If Biden signals weakness the CCP might just roll in heavy.

Can you name the last chinese military victory over anyone  ;D

Time of big troop numbers is gone, 41 days long war between Armenia & Azerbaijan is the best example  ;)

No more conventional wars !.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 28, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
How about the Texans?

"Dammit Hoss, you ain't got no say in the matter!"

How's that gonna go?

“Your path to free American citizenship requires you to take this vaccine.”
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 28, 2020, 03:33:45 PM
Are you kidding?

Californians would line up for slaughter if CNN told them to.


Can you guys offload California to Mexico ;D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 28, 2020, 03:38:15 PM
“Your path to free American citizenship requires you to take this vaccine.”

I'm talking about the Texans. Who you talkin bout?

Plus mostly all the Trump voters. They're not rolling up their sleeves for a government doctor. No way.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 28, 2020, 03:40:53 PM

Can you guys offload California to Mexic ;D

In 10 years the Mexican cartels will take it away from the liberals without firing a shot.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
LOl - the only devastation was caused by left wing governors and their minions. I honestly can't believe you are a guy in his 70's. Where the fuck have you been to describe this flu as devastating? It has a 99.7% survival rate.  On the other hand, my grandfather had tuberculosis - and that had a nearly 15% death rate. Talk about devastation...

Keep thinking Covid is no big deal. Ignorance is bliss.

Sorry to read about your grandfather.

Why Tuberculosis Has Been so Difficult to Eradicate

There is a vaccination that prevents it.

There are drugs that can kill it.

Tuberculosis is a global pandemic, killing someone approximately every 22 seconds — about 1.4 million in 2019 alone.

The health agency reports that in 2015 there were more than 10 million new cases of TB worldwide.

In the United States, 9,563 cases of TB were reported in 2015. More than 500 people in the United States die each year of the disease.


Covid-

First known cases in January 2020, 10 months ago

Currently, no vaccine is yet authorized and recommended to prevent COVID-19.

There are more than 62.1 million cases worldwide, 39.6 million recovered and 1.45 million deaths

In the United States 13.2 million cases and 265 K deaths.

Note: As you pointed out the comparative rate of death is a lot higher for TB. In 2019 an almost equal number died from it worldwide. So, it is definitely more lethal than Covid. However, it is also more of a 3rd world disease at this point. In 2015 in the U.S. there were only a fraction of the number of cases as compared to Covid and it killed only 500 people.

The bottom line is that, at this point, you are much more likely to die from Covid and TB simply because there are comparatively so few cases of it in the U.S.

It is worth noting that someone with TB can contract Covid and if they did, their chances of survival are diminished. I guess if you think 265 K deaths in the U.S. 10 months in is not noteworthy and something to be concerned about, then Covid is no big deal. But, keep in mind that you are much more likely to catch Covid than TB. Furthermore on average people with untreated TB live about 2 years. If you are cured of TB it having had it may reduce your overall lifespan by about 5 years. (nobody knows at this point if having had Covid reduces one's lifespan.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2020, 04:02:33 PM
There's a whole lot of folks on Getbig who are in denial when it comes to Covid. I find that very sad.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 28, 2020, 04:06:06 PM
Probably be cause we are the majority

Why are you here ?

Fear is not a virtue

As much as the ugly green haired f a t girls try to turn it into one

It won’t

People need leaders and protectors

Men who wear masks outdoors are not leaders or protectors

They spread fear and confusion

The ugly f a t blue haired girls won’t mind if the man saving them from the car wreck  they caused ,cause they were texting and being narcissistic

They won’t complain when the man dragging them out to safety isn’t wearing a diaper on his face
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 28, 2020, 05:19:49 PM
Probably be cause we are the majority

Why are you here ?




 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 28, 2020, 05:34:17 PM
Facts:

Australia + New Zealand + Thailand = 99 000 000 population , lets say 100 millions all 3 countries

Covid -19 (China Flu) deads : 907/25/60 , yes 972 dead in those 3 countries


U.S.A. population 331 000 000

Covid -19 deads : 265 000          !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! how is this possible ???

Logic : if 1000 people died per 100 000 000 , U.S. dead should be under 5000 !.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 28, 2020, 05:58:59 PM
Cases

It’s cases

It’s a war of words

Terminology

Dis info

There is no money in a negative result

A case is neither positive or negative

Cases

Now go back to cnn and yahoo  ::)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2020, 12:32:54 AM
Probably be cause we are the majority

Why are you here ?

Fear is not a virtue

As much as the ugly green haired f a t girls try to turn it into one

It won’t

People need leaders and protectors

Men who wear masks outdoors are not leaders or protectors

They spread fear and confusion

The ugly f a t blue haired girls won’t mind if the man saving them from the car wreck  they caused ,cause they were texting and being narcissistic

They won’t complain when the man dragging them out to safety isn’t wearing a diaper on his face

Keep thinking like this please. It could mean there is one less jerk in the world. Too bad you'll probably infect others on your way out. They don't deserve to get sick because of your obstinance and blatant stupidity.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2020, 12:36:34 AM
Cases

It’s cases

It’s a war of words

Terminology

Dis info

There is no money in a negative result

A case is neither positive or negative

Cases

Now go back to cnn and yahoo  ::)

Keep talking stupidity until you can no longer do it because you are strapped to a ventilator in the lobby of an over packed hospital.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2020, 09:42:09 AM
Keep talking stupidity until you can no longer do it because you are strapped to a ventilator in the lobby of an over packed hospital.
Prime, look at the death numbers as opposed to the numbers of infected.  Most people who get Covid are asymptomatic.  Most  never even know until they test positive.  Those who are elderly and/or have other underlying conditions like respiratory diseases are at great risk and should quarantine.  Do you really think wearing masks outside does anything to stop Covid?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 29, 2020, 09:55:51 AM
Keep talking stupidity until you can no longer do it because you are strapped to a ventilator in the lobby of an over packed hospital.

Already was sick last December

When you and everyone else wasn’t wearing your diaper

How evil of you to get me sick

You wish harm on me ?

Did you just wish harm on me ?

Oh fuck

Now your more fucked than you were



I’m 100 times stronger than you

I’ll never be strapped to anything

Sad sad weak old f ag

Your a negative eye sore here

Your the type of person who likes attention even if it’s all bad
Your just disgusting

And now since you wished harm on me I cannot even begin to tell you how bad it will be for you

Not a threat I don’t threaten

But man I’d not want to live where you do
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on November 29, 2020, 06:15:52 PM
There's a whole lot of folks on Getbig who are in denial when it comes to Covid. I find that very sad.

You are an absolute epic dumb shit.  I'd like to think I don't wish death upon anyone, but maybe that's not true.

In Canada, 26 people under the age of 40 have died of COVID [current as of 09-23-2020].  TWENTY SIX!  You dumb fuck!  The average person who dies of COVID is 84.8 years old, with 2-3 separate health issues.  Do you know how many people even live over the age of 85?  Only 15%!  And with 2-3 health problems, the percentage drops to 6%!

That means that, on average, the people dying of COVID were within 6-18 months away from dying anyway.

You dumb stupid asshole.

I'd like to think I wouldn't hope anyone would commit suicide, but maybe that's not true.

You prove to me that liberals are even more stupid than I thought.  Not to mention, you spent most of your life as a closet homosexual, you fucking coward!  That's because you are a coward who only does things that you perceive as being popular.

I was threatened with arrest on Friday at Indigo [Canadian chain bookstore] for not wearing a mask.  Do you think I gave two fucking shits about wearing it?  I was seconds away from tearing that bitch security guard's head off, until she backed down.

You are a gutless coward.  Going decades lying about being heterosexual.  You are some piece of work, you know that?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Fortress on November 29, 2020, 06:27:42 PM
The scam becomes in ever-more focus with each passing day.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 29, 2020, 06:30:34 PM
Get this garbage out of here


Moderators ?

He wished death on me ?

Your going to allow this filth to crate total havoc here and wish death on others

I got the bulshhit covid last December

On a return flight from New York

Was sick a few weeks

Had pink eye ,shortness of breath coughing if I drew a deep breath

Was the most sick I’ve ever been

Docs called it the 100 day cough

They did not know what it was

Over this summer I realized “oh that’s why I was so sick “

I got over it taking Advil sinus

All while no one was wearing a diaper on their face

this guy wants to spread fear and hate? fine

but to wish others death for not abiding to the social disease of the media he buys into?

i dont think so

get this guy out of here



Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on November 29, 2020, 10:06:37 PM
You are an absolute epic dumb shit.  I'd like to think I don't wish death upon anyone, but maybe that's not true.

In Canada, 26 people under the age of 40 have died of COVID [current as of 09-23-2020].  TWENTY SIX!  You dumb fuck!  The average person who dies of COVID is 84.8 years old, with 2-3 separate health issues.  Do you know how many people even live over the age of 85?  Only 15%!  And with 2-3 health problems, the percentage drops to 6%!

That means that, on average, the people dying of COVID were within 6-18 months away from dying anyway.

You dumb stupid asshole.

I'd like to think I wouldn't hope anyone would commit suicide, but maybe that's not true.

You prove to me that liberals are even more stupid than I thought.  Not to mention, you spent most of your life as a closet homosexual, you fucking coward!  That's because you are a coward who only does things that you perceive as being popular.

I was threatened with arrest on Friday at Indigo [Canadian chain bookstore] for not wearing a mask.  Do you think I gave two fucking shits about wearing it?  I was seconds away from tearing that bitch security guard's head off, until she backed down.

You are a gutless coward.  Going decades lying about being heterosexual.  You are some piece of work, you know that?


yet here's what Canada's doing..


coming soon to the USA


Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 05:11:28 AM
God, that guy looks manly. ::)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on November 30, 2020, 05:17:00 AM
God, that guy looks manly. ::)

Well, at first glance I thought i saw a dude with some hot skanks red panties on his face...but a split second longer and i was rushed back to lame reality and its some tard in a face mask again.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on November 30, 2020, 05:17:50 AM
By all means guys dont get vaccinated lets allow covid to drag in fir decades! I love face masks doesnt every1 else ???
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on November 30, 2020, 06:35:00 AM
Good for you, space monkey!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 08:23:59 AM
By all means guys dont get vaccinated lets allow covid to drag in fir decades! I love face masks doesnt every1 else ???

Be the first in line then

Your choice

You know they are going to wear the mask even after vaccine right ?

Your going to learn the hard way again ?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 09:29:29 AM
By all means guys dont get vaccinated lets allow covid to drag in fir decades! I love face masks doesnt every1 else ???
Why would you care if you are vaccinated?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on November 30, 2020, 09:32:00 AM
Why would you care if you are vaccinated?


yeah.. thats the part I don't get..... if someone is vaccinated, why the fark should they care whether or not someone else is?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 09:32:08 AM
he isn't very smart

guys a meth head remember?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 09:40:08 AM

yeah.. thats the part I don't get..... if someone is vaccinated, why the fark should they care whether or not someone else is?
It's all about obedience.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 30, 2020, 09:44:59 AM
There's a whole lot of folks on Getbig who are in denial when it comes to Covid. I find that very sad.

Americans are aggressively stupid, generally
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 09:52:29 AM
Americans are aggressively stupid, generally

i agree

the mask wearers are dumb as a rock
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ThisisOverload on November 30, 2020, 10:22:15 AM
I won't be getting it unless I absolutely have to.

I wear a mask in crowded places because in my state they will make you leave without a mask. There aren't enough options where I live to shop around. Some places don't care about a mask, but very few.

The local Albertsons has a Cop who stands at the entrance to enforce the rules.

The vaccine WILL be mandatory at some level. Most likely for schools and travel at first, eventually other businesses might force it too.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 10:36:34 AM
I wouldn't worry about a vaccine

id be more worried  your digital funds getting  frozen because of power outages

if your broke.

make under 50 k-75 k

and have all your money in your account, no cash in your hand

and live paycheck to paycheck=millennials and democrats

you use a debit card or cc or ,  your phone lol

how will you pay for anything when there is a outage?

business outages,  ( your bank  the grocery store) not your cell service

or if you have a spending or transaction limit on your account

(most of you don't even know what this limit is or  that it even exists)

the broke ass democrat libs and millennials are done= lurker , agnostic, gib,  anyone in Oregon or California= mass exodus

remember you wanted this
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Darren Avey on November 30, 2020, 10:41:54 AM
Get this garbage out of here


Moderators ?

He wished death on me ?

Your going to allow this filth to crate total havoc here and wish death on others

I got the bulshhit covid last December

On a return flight from New York

Was sick a few weeks

Had pink eye ,shortness of breath coughing if I drew a deep breath

Was the most sick I’ve ever been

Docs called it the 100 day cough

They did not know what it was

Over this summer I realized “oh that’s why I was so sick “

I got over it taking Advil sinus

All while no one was wearing a diaper on their face

this guy wants to spread fear and hate? fine

but to wish others death for not abiding to the social disease of the media he buys into?

i dont think so

get this guy out of here

Why?? Because he OFFENDED you!!?? Oh dear little lefty snowflake
Go have a cry
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: joswift on November 30, 2020, 10:43:42 AM
Get this garbage out of here


Moderators ?

He wished death on me ?

Your going to allow this filth to crate total havoc here and wish death on others

I got the bulshhit covid last December

On a return flight from New York

Was sick a few weeks

Had pink eye ,shortness of breath coughing if I drew a deep breath

Was the most sick I’ve ever been

Docs called it the 100 day cough

They did not know what it was

Over this summer I realized “oh that’s why I was so sick “

I got over it taking Advil sinus

All while no one was wearing a diaper on their face

this guy wants to spread fear and hate? fine

but to wish others death for not abiding to the social disease of the media he buys into?

i dont think so

get this guy out of here

epic phone text of fury
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 10:49:06 AM
lol

try harder guys

these are weak insults
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 11:19:55 AM
Americans are aggressively stupid, generally
What are we in denial about?  You think it's smart for people to wear masks outside?  How about football players wearing a mask on the sidelines after having just left the field?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on November 30, 2020, 12:02:29 PM
Covid is shit. Utter shit. Folly.

Science? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!

All the cowards want so badly for Covid to truly be a lethal humanity-ending virus so they can justify to themselves the unmatched fear they are experiencing. 

You are all cowards.  The virus is shit.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 12:04:54 PM
correct

the maskies

dont want to learn or accept they have been had

this was a wealth transfer

but that's hard to understand as no one has wealth

they have a phone in their hand, they don't even own

it tells them what to think

broke dumb and g ay
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 30, 2020, 01:29:22 PM
I wouldn't worry about a vaccine

id be more worried  your digital funds getting  frozen because of power outages

if your broke.

make under 50 k-75 k

and have all your money in your account, no cash in your hand

and live paycheck to paycheck=millennials and democrats

you use a debit card or cc or ,  your phone lol

how will you pay for anything when there is a outage?

business outages,  ( your bank  the grocery store) not your cell service

or if you have a spending or transaction limit on your account

(most of you don't even know what this limit is or  that it even exists)

the broke ass democrat libs and millennials are done= lurker , agnostic, gib,  anyone in Oregon or California= mass exodus

remember you wanted this

If there's a " business outage" cash isn't gonna do you any good either
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 30, 2020, 01:40:55 PM
What are we in denial about?  You think it's smart for people to wear masks outside?  How about football players wearing a mask on the sidelines after having just left the field?

Sure, wearing masks is a good way to reduce disease transmission.  It's not  as important as wearing one in an indoor enclosed area, you are correct.  The football players wearing masks on the sidelines is pointless security theatre.  I think Americans are in denial over the fact that this pandemic cant be controlled without serious restrictions.

I don't know your stance but I suspect that we agree that the half measures in place are ineffectual at best, and actively harmful at worst. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 01:43:37 PM
Sure, wearing masks is a good way to reduce disease transmission.  It's not  as important as wearing one in an indoor enclosed area, you are correct.  The football players wearing masks on the sidelines is pointless security theatre.  I think Americans are in denial over the fact that this pandemic cant be controlled without serious restrictions.

I don't know your stance but I suspect that we agree that the half measures in place are ineffectual at best, and actively harmful at worst.
There have been serious restrictions since April and they haven't done a damn thing to stop the spread of Covid19.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 30, 2020, 01:51:25 PM
Prime, look at the death numbers as opposed to the numbers of infected.  Most people who get Covid are asymptomatic.  Most  never even know until they test positive.  Those who are elderly and/or have other underlying conditions like respiratory diseases are at great risk and should quarantine.  Do you really think wearing masks outside does anything to stop Covid?

It only makes sense that wearing a mask indoors or out reduces transmission whether from spittle or just airborne particles. If you can maintain enough distance from someone outdoors wearing a mask doesn't seem as crucial to me. Social distancing becomes more of a problem indoors. My being claustrophobic makes wearing a mask very uncomfortable. But, I do it anyway.

Comparatively speaking the percentage who die from Covid is low. However, the disease is much more widespread (literally almost 70 million cases worldwide) than other more deadly viruses. That's why the total number of deaths is so high even though the percentage is low. 

In another post TB was sighted as a more deadly disease. With TB there are different considerations then there are with Covid. TB is most prevalent in Pakistan, India, Indonesia, India, Bangladesh, Ethiopia and South Africa while Covid is bad everywhere in the world. The rate of death worldwide from TB is comparable to Covid with 1.4 million people dying from it in 2019. 1.5 million have died from Covid and we still have a couple of months to go to reach whatever the annual death toll ends up being.

Looking at these two diseases closer to home tells a very different story. In the U.S. 515 people died from TB in 2019, while so far this year 267 K have died from Covid. The bottom line is we in the U.S. and other 1st world countries are much less likely to die from TB than from Covid.

Comparing the death rate from Covid to health issues other than those that are contagious, is like looking at apples and oranges. So if more people die from cancer or heart failure than do from Covid it simply isn't relevant.

With a bevy of vaccines coming available over the next several months, hopefully we can beat this pandemic and get back to normal. I've been slow to buy into the idea of getting vaccinated for the flu. When I got a flu vaccine last September, it was my first one in my life. I figured since I never had the flu or if I did, I never had symptoms severe enough to know it, why get vaccinated. Honestly, I am somewhat unsure about getting vaccinated against Covid. We'll see. If it is mandated, I'll do it for sure.     




Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on November 30, 2020, 01:54:54 PM
There have been serious restrictions since April and they haven't done a damn thing to stop the spread of Covid19.

  ::)

" Serious restrictions"?  Like what, the two weeks of a half assed lockdown in March?  I would consider the measures taken by China and Australia to be serious.  Coincidentally, they are both back to normal and essentially virus free
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 30, 2020, 02:18:39 PM
My son lives in Germany, their restrictions for Covid are almost the same as they are in Oregon. Just like in the U.S., people there are very unhappy about this second shutdown. Not sure how long this can go on without completely devastating the world economy.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Fortress on November 30, 2020, 02:51:46 PM
My son lives in Germany, their restrictions for Covid are almost the same as they are in Oregon. Just like in the U.S., people there are very unhappy about this second shutdown. Not sure how long this can go on without completely devastating the world economy.

What does your son think about his pop enjoying slurping on a cock?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on November 30, 2020, 02:54:17 PM
What does your son think about his pop enjoying slurping on a cock?

He thinks you are one stupid fuck.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 30, 2020, 02:59:03 PM
What does your son think about his pop enjoying slurping on a cock?


You'll get a box of mangos for this 1  ;D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 30, 2020, 03:03:18 PM
If it’s required in schools my kids will be home schooled. I work for myself so I’m not taking it and my wife don’t work so she won’t take it.we don’t fly at all so fuck them if they make it mandatory.we ain’t taking shit.

But yes I agree they will.

I'll get real (but fake) certificate of China Flu doping in 1 of SE Asian countries for $ 200  :D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 03:24:18 PM
He thinks you are one stupid fuck.

keep insulting people

try harder

increase your hatered

cmon

let your negative energy flowwwwwww
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on November 30, 2020, 03:27:09 PM
Straight from Johs Hopkins U (before they realized that everyone would know the truth)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iO0K75EZAF8dkNDkDmM3L4zNNY0X-Xw5/view
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 03:34:48 PM
Straight from Johs Hopkins U (before they realized that everyone would know the truth)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iO0K75EZAF8dkNDkDmM3L4zNNY0X-Xw5/view

complete with google ads!!

so neat
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 01, 2020, 01:57:50 AM
this is the rona (a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA):

(https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Multiple-sequence-alignment-between-spike-proteins-of-2019-nCoV-and-SARS-1024x811.jpg)

those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.

hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.

covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.

thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.

its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.

making designer rona... in effect a retrovirus – which increases transmissibility (increasing morbidity (not mortality))
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 01, 2020, 03:35:31 AM
those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code

more hiv fragments have been identified within the designer rona... 18 of them now (6 + 6 + 6 = 18 - how perfect, lol)

'18 RNA fragments of homology equal or more than 80% with human or simian retroviruses have been found in the COVID_19 genome.'

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 01, 2020, 04:49:29 AM
more hiv fragments have been identified within the designer rona... 18 of them now (6 + 6 + 6 = 18 - how perfect, lol)

'18 RNA fragments of homology equal or more than 80% with human or simian retroviruses have been found in the COVID_19 genome.'

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier)

All of this means what exactly? And what is designer rona?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Marvin Martian on December 01, 2020, 04:59:53 AM
He thinks you are one stupid fuck.

Prime - are you so single minded that you aren’t willing to even consider the fact that the CV death numbers are inflated? The total number of deaths is no higher than any other years and much less than years as recent as 2018. As I stated weeks ago I personally know multiple people who have passed from completely unrelated illnesses (and even multiple traumatic accidents) that were all coded as CV 19 deaths. I spoke to a neurologist at an event a few months ago and he found that multiple patients of his who had died of various illnesses / injuries - but somehow tested as having CV antibodies - we ALL coded as CV19 deaths.

Why does this not concern you? Why would you allow your thoughts to be totally controlled by various media?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Never1AShow on December 01, 2020, 05:13:37 AM
Straight from Johs Hopkins U (before they realized that everyone would know the truth)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iO0K75EZAF8dkNDkDmM3L4zNNY0X-Xw5/view

Why was this paper retracted?  Was it wrong?  Are there excess deaths?  Did it use incorrect data or was it true but just supposedly lacking in context?  I'm too lazy to research this myself past all the noisy propaganda being pushed.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 01, 2020, 05:31:21 AM
All of this means what exactly? And what is designer rona?

rona... is short for corona, as in Coronavirus.

it means that the genome of 'designer' covid 19 was created in a lab, is a retrovirus, and will change your dna (proves it).

really tho... its all about the vaccine – the tech inside of the 'solution'
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 01, 2020, 05:40:05 AM
rona... is short for corona, as in Coronavirus.

it means that the genome of 'designer' covid 19 was created in a lab, is a retrovirus, and will change your dna (proves it).

really tho... its all about the vaccine – the tech inside of the 'solution'

So you're saying covid19 permanently alters your dna? This is somehow because its mixed with HIV? This article says you are wrong.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1727299
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 01, 2020, 05:55:35 AM
So you're saying covid19 permanently alters your dna? This is somehow because its mixed with HIV?

yes

The tech inside of the solution means what?

it means that covid will be the reason... the excuse – to get inside of your body.

it means that the solution... the vaccine - will introduce a host of extraordinarily bad technologies into your system that will fundamentally change what u r.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 01, 2020, 06:25:37 AM
This article says you are wrong.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1727299

yes, well... there is the truth, and then there is the mainstream narrative.

go with your gut, homie. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 01, 2020, 08:05:37 AM
5G
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 08:11:49 AM
Problem = rona

Solution = vaccine

Problem =Bitcoin crashes

Solution = digital currency (your already used to using it)

Problem = voting and staying safe>Rona related

Solution = mail it in ( what could go wrong ?)

Problem = president that inspires patriotism

Solution = socialism and media

Result = bankruptcy for anyone not making over 400 k

Those who rooted for bankruptcy = sad tv watchers
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 01, 2020, 08:18:58 AM
Problem = rona

Solution = vaccine

Problem =Bitcoin crashes

Solution = digital currency (your already used to using it)

Problem = voting and staying safe>Rona related

Solution = mail it in ( what could go wrong ?)

Problem = president that inspires patriotism

Solution = socialism and media

Result = bankruptcy for anyone not making over 400 k

Those who rooted for bankruptcy = sad tv watchers

Pretty accurate...

Now add on a vaccine to stop citizen unrest, the white working class paying for all the freeloaders of color, and a 58% minimum Federal tax bracket and you’ve summed up the Hairplugs Biden administration.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Griffith on December 01, 2020, 08:38:55 AM
Problem = rona

Solution = vaccine

Problem =Bitcoin crashes

Solution = digital currency (your already used to using it)

Problem = voting and staying safe>Rona related

Solution = mail it in ( what could go wrong ?)

Problem = president that inspires patriotism

Solution = socialism and media

Result = bankruptcy for anyone not making over 400 k

Those who rooted for bankruptcy = sad tv watchers

That will lead to total government control of people's lives.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on December 01, 2020, 08:51:26 AM
Cowards. 

Cowards giving birth to little cowards, who will in turn breed more cowards.

I grow weary of cowards. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 01, 2020, 08:58:25 AM
That will lead to total government control of people's lives.

LIBRA
https://www.diem.com/en-us/
Thanks Zuckerburg
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 09:33:19 AM
That will lead to total government control of people's lives.

its coming

the market is on a big pump and then dump operation

massive sell offs by corporations right now.

so when the market dumps they will buy it all

same thing with housing

don't worry about which currency will be in

just make sure you have a lot of it

buy real property

that's why its called "real"

only stock id buy i Microsoft

for all the vaccine retards who will line up to take the free vaccine

cause things that are free are good right
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 01, 2020, 10:33:21 AM
its coming

the market is on a big pump and then dump operation

massive sell offs by corporations right now.

so when the market dumps they will buy it all

same thing with housing

don't worry about which currency will be in

just make sure you have a lot of it

buy real property

that's why its called "real"

only stock id buy i Microsoft

for all the vaccine retards who will line up to take the free vaccine

cause things that are free are good right



won't housing dump as well when people lose all their money?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 10:36:22 AM
yes it will

and if you have cash to buy up real property you'll be on the winning side

not the loser side
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2020, 11:03:42 AM
keep insulting people

try harder

increase your hatered

cmon

let your negative energy flowwwwwww

Okay....I think you are a stupid fuck too. How's that?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 01, 2020, 11:12:10 AM
yes it will

and if you have cash to buy up real property you'll be on the winning side

not the loser side

so best to sell all property, rent and then buy everything up when super cheap?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 01:01:55 PM
so best to sell all property, rent and then buy everything up when super cheap?

this would be good

stay liquid  and rent,

but if you can own your house and do this  as well it would be preferred

use liquid to accumulate real property
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 02:30:46 PM
Cowards. 

Cowards giving birth to little cowards, who will in turn breed more cowards.

I grow weary of cowards.

Tommy, he do get weary,
Sharing the world with cowardess.
Yessss.
Tommy. When you're weary,
Just try,
A little barbell press.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2020, 02:36:55 PM
Tommy, he do get weary,
Sharing the world with cowardess.
Yessss.
Tommy. When you're weary,
Just try,
A little barbell press.

This is very clever and pretty funny.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 06:25:08 PM
Thanks. When the going gets hard, I get goofy. Srsly, goofball nonsense is essential for morale. I try not to neglect to be a silly goose occasionally. Chicks dig it. Or stare at you blankly. Hey, either way.

On top of which I've been living at work for days now. I anticipate 3 or 4 sleeps at home between now and the new year. Gotta balance out all this unwashed austerity somehow.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 06:27:38 PM
I hear you bro

You just keep it up and staying positive

Just watch old wkrp episodes on YouTube

I’m living on the air in Cincinnati

Cincinnati wkrp....

Epic song on that shit bro
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 08:16:33 PM
Proud to declare that's a little before my time but I recalled the first lyric and that they had a very tits forward cast member.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
It’s before my time as well

But there’s a thing called YouTube

Kind of neat
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 08:42:35 PM
Like just barely before my time, hence the brag.

If I tune into anything with impressive tits there won't be any work getting done, and then it will be time for a nap.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 08:54:48 PM
So you are a taper

You use those stilts or something else ?

Do you mix the mud or a laborer fo that for you ?

Does the laborer set up the scaffolding too ?

Just curious as I used to put stucco on houses as a kid

Brutal job that was
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: cobra333 on December 01, 2020, 09:17:36 PM
Fox news had a brief discussion stating that there were rumors flying around the media world that you would be us citizens each would be offered 1500 dollars to take the vaccine . I looked at the tv. Fox news was up and in big a.. Bold letters offered 1500 dollars to take vaccine. Btw I had this s... Twice as mr cuomo on cnn did twice yes and I got over it with 1500 mg s of amoxicillin a day for 1 week  and ibuprofen at 500 mg a day and 1500mg a day of mucinex  There are different strains of this s... And it has mutated in the air. Lastly the currency coins etc yes the money is highly infected in turn infecting everyone at this point and the mucus membranes in the eye ball is where the airborne virus attacks the most being the weakest.   My son had it last dec 2019 doc said it was a virus take ibuprofen mucinex he cleared it in 3 weeks being autistic took him longer. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 09:46:48 PM
I had it in December as well

Pink eye , weeping eyes , could not get a deep breath

Took Advil sinus

And none of you punk ass mothafucking  cum buckets were wearing a mask to protect me !!!!

How dare you dink loving Chinese activists worms !!’
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 10:08:10 PM
So you are a taper

You use those stilts or something else ?

Do you mix the mud or a laborer fo that for you ?

Does the laborer set up the scaffolding too ?

Just curious as I used to put stucco on houses as a kid

Brutal job that was

I'd stilt up for a big sqf job but haven't for a couple years since I'm in housing rather than commercial.

Mixing is easy enough in drywall. For sand and cement I'd use a laborer. Been threatening to put together a spray system for stucco for about 10 years now, lol. Most houses here are brick built and eat about 8 or 9 cubic yards of stucco, and still they all lay on by hand, with rates that reflect it. I'm sure there's money in spray application. A lot.

I just work alone unless we're throwing sheets. Use a buddy who's a handyman contractor for that. Employees are a pain in the butt and so are the labor laws in Aus. If I go into stucco and lime hardwall plastering I'll have to crew up tho.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 10:16:58 PM
Sounds good man

Spray those houses

Get more houses done than the other guys can in same time period ,And and get yourself paid

I don’t understand the union mentality of doing things in a old inefficient way that is just to milk the clock

That’s a weak mentality in my opinion

Unless it’s fine craftsmanship

Which slinging mud is not


Spray that shit
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on December 01, 2020, 10:25:53 PM
Tommy, he do get weary,
Sharing the world with cowardess.
Yessss.
Tommy. When you're weary,
Just try,
A little barbell press.

 :D   Thank you. I needed a little good cheer.  Appreciated sir.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 10:48:05 PM
We all need some good cheer !!

I wish you all lived in Florida

We could go to Rachel’s strip club and I’d treat for beers

Your on your own in vip
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2020, 10:52:50 PM
What a great thread this has become today! The support, good humor and camaraderie is almost teary eyed worthy. Who knew there were such good people on Getbig? I am being serious, BTW. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 10:53:35 PM
Sounds good man

Spray those houses

Get more houses done than the other guys can in same time period ,And and get yourself paid

I don’t understand the union mentality of doing things in a old inefficient way that is just to milk the clock

That’s a weak mentality in my opinion

Unless it’s fine craftsmanship

Which slinging mud is not


Spray that shit

A lot of it comes down to the fact that there are some stupid, stupid people in plastering. I'm no genius but there are some zero idea people spreading sand and cement for a living. No get up & go either, by nature and by virtue of all the substance abuse. Also, it's a low capital startup so it attracts people who are unlikely to invest in a 3000 lb screw compressor, a $5k pump, pump lines, kickass mixers, etc. I actually own it all, acquired from auctions. Got to find time to use it.

The main thing tho is that stucco is a bitch to pump. There are no bagged mixes here. It's just a big ol pile of sand outside the house. Concrete is way easier to pump since it's a strong mix with plenty of fines to carry the aggregate. Short mixes like 5-1 stucco are prone to segregate as the sand falls out of suspension at pinch points in the pump or line, but there's ways around that. Someday someday.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 01, 2020, 11:01:05 PM
:D   Thank you. I needed a little good cheer.  Appreciated sir.

There's no stopping us, my friend. Glory is ours to pluck from the Tree of... well Glory, I guess it would be. You'd pluck Glory fruit from a Tree of Glory.

Apple. Apple tree. Yep. That checks out.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 01, 2020, 11:02:24 PM
Just hire one laborer to keep those lines flowing

Get a screen to put the sand through so it runs cleaner

You might just have to experiment with the mix ratio and see what works

And you never know maybe there is new equipment out there that makes it all easy

I love how this thread is nice and great again maga!!

Wonder who did that ?

And love how we all ignore you know who

He is like the kid who pics his nose and puts it on your furniture and wonders why you don’t invite him over to play
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 02, 2020, 01:15:41 AM
LIBRA
https://www.diem.com/en-us/
Thanks Zuckerburg

peeps r still zeroed in on bitcoin... but there will emerge a more comprehensive construct – like libra
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 02, 2020, 01:36:21 AM
there will emerge a more comprehensive construct – like libra

that comprehensive construct will b one of the technologies introduced into your system

the solution... the vaccine - will introduce a host of extraordinarily bad technologies into your system that will fundamentally change what u r.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 02, 2020, 01:46:40 AM
Hey guys! Im zillotch and I like to talk about stuff you want to talk about except the way i like doing it is i talk to myself and say lots of really vague things that get your attention but i will always leave you hanging!

Sup?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 02, 2020, 01:52:02 AM
Hey guys! Im zillotch and I like to talk about stuff you want to talk about except the way i like doing it is i talk to myself and say lots of really vague things that get your attention but i will always leave you hanging!

Sup?

I smoke a lot of weed.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 02, 2020, 02:06:17 AM
If you wanted to wipe out the human race will not destroying the planet in the process, this would be precisely how to do it.

We are screwed  :-[
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 02, 2020, 02:31:17 AM
If you wanted to wipe out the human race will not destroying the planet in the process, this would be precisely how to do it.

We are screwed  :-[

in the worst way

a tool - among others... manifested – pulled from the abyss - for the subjugation and fundamental transformation of a divinely created man into an irredeemable, short lived abomination... before extermination - resulting in damnation.

any light thats left in the world, will be extinguished... reality will become misery across the board.... misery that intensifies with time.

morality and wisdom will be replaced with truly evil black hearts... sinister desires... which will play out in the most horrific, terrifying ways.

there will be no freedom, safety or choice for most... only survival; no peace, no rest... life will consist of constant fear, anguish, and death.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 02, 2020, 05:17:32 AM
peeps r still zeroed in on bitcoin... but there will emerge a more comprehensive construct – like libra

All current crypto currencies are planned to be obsolete mid 2020 from what I read making Libra the one world currency, it's backed by all the elite, this is all tied into ID2020.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 02, 2020, 05:30:43 AM
this is all tied into ID2020.

that comprehensive construct will b one of the technologies introduced into your system

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: US MUSL on December 02, 2020, 05:39:29 AM
I work for General Motors and have heard they are ordering coolers to store the vaccine at their plants. I wonder if we will have to be vaccinated to work in their facilities. If so, I am out/done.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Griffith on December 02, 2020, 05:40:46 AM
All current crypto currencies are planned to be obsolete mid 2020 from what I read making Libra the one world currency, it's backed by all the elite, this is all tied into ID2020.

Bitcoin will probably eventually be shut down due to 'security reasons' or something similar tying it to criminal activity.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 02, 2020, 05:49:51 AM
I work for General Motors and have heard they are ordering coolers to store the vaccine at their plants. I wonder if we will have to be vaccinated to work in their facilities. If so, I am out/done.

You will have to be vaccinated TO DO ANYTHING, let that sink in! No vaxx, no money, no food, no personal belongings, no place to live. This has been in the works for a very long time!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 02, 2020, 06:27:38 AM
You will have to be vaccinated TO DO ANYTHING, let that sink in! No vaxx, no money, no food, no personal belongings, no place to live. This has been in the works for a very long time!

Jumping the gun amigo. Lets stay focused here- a new viral threat factually appeared earlier this year. The powers that be are insistent that we not take chances and thus we needed a vaccine ASAP. The best snd brightest around the world pulled off what had been impossible. You should be overjoyed and impressed. Instead you are more afraid of the cure than the disease the lockdowns the hysteria etc.

If you wont take the vaccine because you are scared then at least you know how the millions in this country covid would likely pick off if given a chance.

Think about this thousands THOUSANDS of the best and brightest worked together day and night to deliver a miracle. You think the vaccine is spiked with what and why and by who?

Just take the fucking vaccine. Theres like 6 pick which one you like the most i mean you have to grow up some day.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 02, 2020, 06:37:07 AM
The powers that be are insistent that we not take chances and thus we needed a vaccine ASAP. The best snd brightest around the world pulled off what had been impossible. You should be overjoyed and impressed.

Just take the fucking vaccine.

in time... humans will beg to have this biotechnological nightmare applied to their own bodies.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 02, 2020, 06:46:31 AM
Jumping the gun amigo. Lets stay focused here- a new viral threat factually appeared earlier this year. The powers that be are insistent that we not take chances and thus we needed a vaccine ASAP. The best snd brightest around the world pulled off what had been impossible. You should be overjoyed and impressed. Instead you are more afraid of the cure than the disease the lockdowns the hysteria etc.

If you wont take the vaccine because you are scared then at least you know how the millions in this country covid would likely pick off if given a chance.

Think about this thousands THOUSANDS of the best and brightest worked together day and night to deliver a miracle. You think the vaccine is spiked with what and why and by who?

Just take the fucking vaccine. Theres like 6 pick which one you like the most i mean you have to grow up some day.

Ugh not even sure why I am engaging. I am not afraid. This whole thing is not only way overplayed, but was so planned. It's a miracle alright ::)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 02, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
I am not convinced about the safety of this vaccine.

Some facts here to remember:

This is the first mRNA vaccine ever developed.

Lets look at Moderna for one second. This is the first time they have EVER developed a vaccine. Oh, and they did this in less than a month (the actual design for it took no more than 2 days). The clinical trials (Phase 1 + 2) took just about 2 months to get completed.

We do NOT have long term studies documenting serious side & adverse effects.

mRNA in some studies has been shown to have the potential to deactivate tumor suppressor genes (Google that if you'd like, as major institutions like Memorial Sloane Kettering put that out years ago). What other things can occur if mRNA is not properly handled? How can it be mishandled? Look at the actual people that administer vaccines, it's not the most gentle virologist and immunologists that our nation has to offer, it's a bunch of handmaids at your doctor's offices.

The vaccine does not make you immune to Covid. We still don't know for sure whether it will provide any long-term immunity or whether this will become another yearly vaccine, like the Flu vaccine.

This vaccine literally will program your cells to produce the most critical protein components of COVID in order to allow for your body to develop antibodies to then attack COVID if you get infected with it. It's literally supposed to make you better able to stage an immune-mediated attack against the virus itself. It will not make you immune to the virus or better said, incapable of getting infected.

Like most things, I don't run off to buy the newest of anything on the market, until it has been properly tested and trialed by a good chunk of our population. In a novel vaccine, I'd like to allow for a little more data to be gathered and for most of the adverse effects that can occur to declare themselves before I jump into the pool and become a guinea pig.

I am not saying it might not be effective and maybe over time, my view will change. For now, I will hold off on getting it and give it a good 6-12 months before I revisit the idea to get the vaccine. I would appreciate if maybe a sizeable pool of Americans get it before me, say about 50% of the US population. Inversely, instead of getting the vaccine, I could even take my chances by getting COVID (if it happens) and giving my body a chance to beat it naturally and develop immunity to it. If more than 95% (I know it's higher) of people that get infected actually recover, why not take my chances and allow for my own body to do its job? To get a vaccine based on the fearmongering that people like Gates and family are pushing is just not convincing enough for me. I've seen what his actions have led to in places like India and I believe firmly he isn't doing what's best for humanity.

To answer the original question posed by the thread started, yes, I believe they might make it mandatory, but not in the way most people think. I don't believe it will immediately become a mandate throughout the states to get vaccinated. Instead, I think institutions will make it practically impossible to do business with them unless you are vaccinated. How? Want a passport? You need a vaccine. Want to have your children go to school? They need to be vaccinated. Want access to work in major tech, finance, healthcare institutions? You need to get a vaccine to not cause infection amongst your coworkers. Want to get in to see a movie? You need proof of vaccination. Want to get access to a mall? You guessed it, show me the proof of vaccination. Want to log into Getbig? Next to your password, enter the LOT number for your individual vaccination.

That last one is a joke, but you get my point.

"1"
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 02, 2020, 07:07:17 AM

This vaccine literally will program your cells to produce the most critical protein components of COVID in order to allow for your body to develop antibodies to then attack COVID if you get infected with it. It's literally supposed to make you better able to stage an immune-mediated attack against the virus itself. It will not make you immune to the virus or better said, incapable of getting infected.



"1"

My immune system has had at least 1 million years to develop. I'll stay with that one :)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 02, 2020, 07:23:23 AM
Jumping the gun amigo. Lets stay focused here- a new viral threat factually appeared earlier this year. The powers that be are insistent that we not take chances and thus we needed a vaccine ASAP. The best snd brightest around the world pulled off what had been impossible. You should be overjoyed and impressed. Instead you are more afraid of the cure than the disease the lockdowns the hysteria etc.

If you wont take the vaccine because you are scared then at least you know how the millions in this country covid would likely pick off if given a chance.

Think about this thousands THOUSANDS of the best and brightest worked together day and night to deliver a miracle. You think the vaccine is spiked with what and why and by who?

Just take the fucking vaccine. Theres like 6 pick which one you like the most i mean you have to grow up some day.

You take it meth head

Don’t push it in others

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 02, 2020, 07:35:25 AM
You take it meth head

Don’t push it in others

The ones that won't take it will be an extremely small number, and the ones that do take it will rat us out when the time comes, its going to get very ugly!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 02, 2020, 07:38:28 AM
The ones who don’t take it will rule over the ones who do

It’s that way now but this will just make it official

The nail in their coffin
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 02, 2020, 07:45:23 AM
Anybody here gonna start a fake vaccine certificate racket to save us getbiggers from Bill Gates wet dream?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 02, 2020, 08:27:39 AM
Anybody here gonna start a fake vaccine certificate racket to save us getbiggers from Bill Gates wet dream?

I already started asking around the local mafia community..lol
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on December 02, 2020, 09:12:37 AM
If you wanted to wipe out the human race will not destroying the planet in the process, this would be precisely how to do it.

We are screwed  :-[

 ;D   Remember that was the premise behind the neutron bomb. "Kill all the annoying people but leave behind the good stuff like buildings and roads and food."
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2020, 10:12:42 AM
If you wanted to wipe out the human race will not destroying the planet in the process, this would be precisely how to do it.

We are screwed  :-[

Are you speaking to an alien? Otherwise you're asking a human this question and they would technically get wiped out with the rest of us humans. The only humans who would want to wipe out the human race would be those on a suicide mission and who want to take everyone with them when they die.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 02, 2020, 12:28:52 PM
so still no bet by Lurker the retired commander? 200 bucks?

and xoxo

what about the 10k?

10-1 odds right?


  My 1 k bet still stands

i agree with your timeline of the 20th of jan

so we are good to go right?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on December 02, 2020, 12:30:37 PM
;D   Remember that was the premise behind the neutron bomb. "Kill all the annoying people but leave behind the good stuff like buildings and roads and food."


That doco series 'Life after people' was interesting  :D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on December 02, 2020, 12:34:01 PM
All current crypto currencies are planned to be obsolete mid 2020 from what I read making Libra the one world currency, it's backed by all the elite, this is all tied into ID2020.


Rubbish, Australian gold mining is increasing .............you are obviously not on the ground !.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on December 02, 2020, 12:41:41 PM


News from Mr.Putin: Russian made vaccine (Sputnik 5) is for Russians, others ................. :D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 02, 2020, 04:34:03 PM
Are you speaking to an alien? Otherwise you're asking a human this question and they would technically get wiped out with the rest of us humans. The only humans who would want to wipe out the human race would be those on a suicide mission and who want to take everyone with them when they die.

The ones the aliens made contact and struck a silent deal will survive. As will their immediate families and so on.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 02, 2020, 04:48:57 PM
how many days were they awake you think mike?

what's your record?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: loco on December 03, 2020, 06:06:54 AM
And it begins:

Obama, Clinton and Bush Say They Will All Get Safe COVID-19 Vaccine, Maybe On TV

(https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/3JQgnup4uzYwEK8O2P.8Kg--~B/Zmk9c3RyaW07aD0yOTY7cT05NTt3PTYxMDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://s.yimg.com/os/creatr-uploaded-images/2020-12/ed67eaa0-3548-11eb-bdfd-62bb35525878.cf.webp)

Obama joins former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton in supporting an eventual COVID-19 vaccine deemed to be safe by public health officials. Bush’s chief of staff told CNN: “When the time is right, [Bush] wants to do what he can to help encourage his fellow citizens to get vaccinated.”

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/obama-covid-vaccine-tv-031700238.html
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 03, 2020, 06:23:07 AM

Rubbish, Australian gold mining is increasing .............you are obviously not on the ground !.

Ok hope your right and it is not Libra anymore, they changed their name to Diem https://www.diem.com/en-us/

They plan to get it rolling in January, your gold and silver will be worthless soon as they purposely crash the economy and wipe away all debt to begin this new one world currency. I am not arguing with you Bro, it's all out there easy to see.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 08:44:18 AM
and what are you doing about it chubz?

you going to capitalize off it? or just say doom and gloom like a soothsayer??
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 03, 2020, 08:55:17 AM
how many days were they awake you think mike?

what's your record?

You are a lonely lonely man.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 09:07:58 AM
4 days? 6?

undulge us

id like to know

dont be a crybaby

your user name celebrates your drug use

your saying your not proud of it?

tell us your record
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 03, 2020, 09:12:09 AM
Ok hope your right and it is not Libra anymore, they changed their name to Diem https://www.diem.com/en-us/

They plan to get it rolling in January, your gold and silver will be worthless soon as they purposely crash the economy and wipe away all debt to begin this new one world currency. I am not arguing with you Bro, it's all out there easy to see.

Gold and silver will never be worthless. There are no substitutes for gold in so many technical applications. The modern electronics industry would crash immediately without gold.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 03, 2020, 12:11:26 PM
and what are you doing about it chubz?

you going to capitalize off it? or just say doom and gloom like a soothsayer??

Well that’s a good question, I’m def not a know it all, or here trying to aggravate. Me personally I’ve been liquidating all my stuff for a min. Plan to move out on some of my property and self sustain as best I can. I hope I am all wrong, but the writing on the wall seems to me that the elite/WEF are having their way and crashing all economies worldwide through covid/great reset. Look up Diem, it was Libra, Zuckerburg being one of the founders, all the major players are tied into it and it’s their one world currency plan, I almost think you have to be crazy not to see the writing on the wall. I get gold and silvers physical value and it may still hold strong if you fall in line for the vaccine, no vaccine and it will be worthless to those owning it as they are not going to be allowed to participate in society if that makes sense and don’t for one minute think non Vaxxers are going to be able to trade with vaxxers in a black market type situation, instead they will RAT us out. Sound far fetched?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 01:14:55 PM
Gold and silver will never be worthless. There are no substitutes for gold in so many technical applications. The modern electronics industry would crash immediately without gold.

they hedge currency they are not currency
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 01:18:26 PM
i think your thinking clearly chubz


the vaccine doesn't solve shit

they will still wear the mask

its intention is to make people fight over it

so instead of skin color or nationality or religious beliefs its who wears mask , or who doesnt ,  free person vs not free

who is going to admit they aren't free?

2 classes are easier than many to control

ill remain free thank you
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 01:27:46 PM


so democrats?

whats this?

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 03, 2020, 01:31:49 PM
they hedge currency they are not currency

A classic example of a non sequitur.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 01:38:02 PM
are you disagreeing?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 03, 2020, 02:12:14 PM
'Immunity Cards' To Be Issued To All Americans; Enable CDC To Track COVID-19 Vaxx Status In Database

Do you have your papers?... do you have any strange tatoos, or gold fillings?

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On Wednesday the Department of Defense released the first images of a COVID-19 vaccination record card as well as vaccination kits, according to CNN.

"Everyone will be issued a written card that they can put in their wallet that will tell them what they had and when their next dose is due," says Dr. Kelly Moore, associate director of the Immunization Action Coalition. "Let's do the simple, easy thing first. Everyone's going to get that."

What's more, vaccination clinics will also report to their state immunization registries which vaccine was given so that third parties can verify one's vaccination status regardless of what their card says (or if they've lost it).

Moore said many places are planning to ask patients to voluntarily provide a cell phone number, so they can get a text message telling them when and where their next dose is scheduled to be administered.

Every dose administered will be reported to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Claire Hannan, executive director of the Association of Immunization Managers. -CNN

The DoD also released information on vaccine kits, which include a card, needle, syringe, alcohol wipes and a mask. There are approximately 100 million such kits ready to go as soon as 'the' vaccine(s) is(are) chosen, according to Operation Warp Speed CEO, Gen. Gustave Perna.

The announcement comes less than two weeks after the UK government proposed "freedom passes" in order to reboot their economy - which would seemingly allow those willing to vaccinate a return to normal life. It also comes after signs of industries adapting to a future of immunity cards and vaccinations - with Ticketmaster and Quantas airlines both announcing they will require proof of vaccination before people can attend concerts or fly.

Meanwhile, the vaccination roadshow has begun. On Wednesday, former presidents Obama, Clinton and Bush publicly announced that they would take the vaccine, on camera.

"I may end up taking it on TV or having it filmed, just so that people know that I trust this science," Obama said in a Wednesday interview with Sirius XM radio - while Bush and Clinton made similar vows.

The next day, NIH Director Dr. Anthony Fauci ominously warned that it would create a "very serious situation" if people don't take the vaccine.

The frontrunning vaccine candidates come from two companies - Pfizer and Moderna - which are both awaiting emergency use authorizations in the United States. And FDA panel is expected to discuss the issue on December 10 and 17.

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/covid-19-vax-status-be-tracked-cdc-database-everyone-issued-vaccination-cards-according-dod (https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/covid-19-vax-status-be-tracked-cdc-database-everyone-issued-vaccination-cards-according-dod)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 03, 2020, 02:18:39 PM
4 days? 6?

undulge us

id like to know

dont be a crybaby

your user name celebrates your drug use

your saying your not proud of it?

tell us your record

My username has nothing to do with methamphetamine.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 02:19:26 PM
according to CNN.

thanks bro
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 02:23:05 PM

On Wednesday the Department of Defense released the first images of a COVID-19 vaccination record card as well as vaccination kits, according to CNN.

got it thanks

feel safe now  :)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 03, 2020, 02:24:07 PM
^^^^^ Yep times are going to get interesting to say the least and VERY SOON! this latest lockdown is only going to get worse, so enjoy each day as much as you can for now. I live in Michigan and I'm extremely tired of seeing the WEAK CUNTY mask wearing sheep, so if this is the future I'm at peace and over this techno Facebook, digital society. I'm placing out to Jackson Hole first thing in the am to go snowboarding, hope Michigan border patrol doesn't stop men :D I am seriously glad I do not have little kids going through this, I would absolutely loose my shit and would never put a mask on my 2 year old!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 03, 2020, 02:26:01 PM
On Wednesday the Department of Defense released the first images of a COVID-19 vaccination record card as well as vaccination kits, according to CNN.

got it thanks

feel safe now  :)

They have been working on these cards for a bit, trust me they have every angle covered. Just wait till the Luciferase Quantum dot patch gets shipped via Amazon to your house so you can apply it yourself, again sound far fetched?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 03, 2020, 02:42:36 PM
On Wednesday the Department of Defense released the first images of a COVID-19 vaccination record card as well as vaccination kits, according to CNN.

got it thanks

feel safe now  :)

I most cases I would agree with you, but this vaccine card/permit is definitely in the works.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 03, 2020, 02:49:24 PM
the card is for suckers

people who are broke weak and dumb

its a cnn article for fucks sakes

when are you guys going to learn the enemy is the media?

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 04, 2020, 10:18:13 AM
What do they do with those of us who don't take it?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Griffith on December 04, 2020, 10:21:53 AM
What do they do with those of us who don't take it?

No international travel. Possibly no air travel?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 10:26:16 AM
religion

muslim

rag on head

wear a dress

you wont be bothered
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 04, 2020, 10:36:37 AM
No international travel. Possibly no air travel?


No driver's license

No school admittance

No large venue (concerts, sports games, etC) admittance

No bus, no train travel

No ability to work

No ability to receive government benefits

Must wear mask 24/7 or be fined/jailed



They won't "force" you to do anything
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Fortress on December 04, 2020, 10:53:44 AM
Fortress ain’t on board.

As sung by Geddy, and penned by Peart/Dubois, “(My) mind is not for rent, to any god or government ... Always hopeful yet discontent ... “
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 12:08:23 PM

No driver's license

No school admittance

No large venue (concerts, sports games, etC) admittance

No bus, no train travel

No ability to work

No ability to receive government benefits

Must wear mask 24/7 or be fined/jailed



They won't "force" you to do anything

you live in boise grinch?

or just post articles from corrupt KTVB to make everyone believe your doomsday prophecies?

no one will be jailed or fined

you forgetting who the police support?

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 12:18:48 PM
What do they do with those of us who don't take it?

They are reopening the United States WWII Japanese internment camps. Mostly located on the Pacific Coast where most all of the crazy people live.  ;D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 04, 2020, 12:55:18 PM
They are reopening the United States WWII Japanese internment camps. Mostly located on the Pacific Coast where most all of the crazy people live.  ;D
Well, I'm not Japanese so I guess I'm safe.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 04, 2020, 01:15:49 PM
Everybody bleeds. There won’t be forced anything. For a bodybuilder board I’m amazed by the number of pussies here. But then “Bend over and take it” seems to be the rule in this activity.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 04, 2020, 01:50:26 PM
if it bleeds

we can put a mask on it
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 04, 2020, 02:23:14 PM
Well, I'm not Japanese so I guess I'm safe.

It is the Japanese are who is safe with one of the lower death rates at 0.8 per 100K as opposed to the U.S. with 38.6 per 100K (this was in July 2020).
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 04, 2020, 04:09:34 PM
Afaik, PM Abe mandated minimal lockdowns, relied on the purely voluntary san-mitsu policy, and Suga has continued the no lockdown policy.

But these are the same people who sat quietly for days on end and waited patiently for the power to come back on, while the Americans, during the same period, robbed, raped, and murdered one another after Hurricane Katrina hit.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 05, 2020, 04:58:55 AM
It is the Japanese are who is safe with one of the lower death rates at 0.8 per 100K as opposed to the U.S. with 38.6 per 100K (this was in July 2020).
Does Japan count everyone who dies with Covid as a Covid death like the US does? 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: SOMEPARTS on December 05, 2020, 06:02:13 AM
Does Japan count everyone who dies with Covid as a Covid death like the US does?


Nobody has the flu or a cold this year, all covid.

All hail covid 20!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 05, 2020, 07:29:40 AM
I swear, mainstream news organizations including state media enterprises are looking more and more like The Onion every day:

Quote
"Russia says its COVID vaccine is 95% effective. So why is there still Western resistance to it?"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-vaccine-covid-19-coronavirus-chris-brown-1.5819331

OH MY GOD...we're using RUSSIAN standards for medicine practices now?  ::)  That article may as well say "China harvests organs from political prisoners.  So why doesn't the West do it?"
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 05, 2020, 11:28:52 AM
I swear, mainstream news organizations including state media enterprises are looking more and more like The Onion every day:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-vaccine-covid-19-coronavirus-chris-brown-1.5819331

OH MY GOD...we're using RUSSIAN standards for medicine practices now?  ::)  That article may as well say "China harvests organs from political prisoners.  So why doesn't the West do it?"
:D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2020, 02:00:00 PM

Nobody has the flu or a cold this year, all covid.

All hail covid 20!

Final 2019/20 Flu Numbers
The final data on flu season 2019/2020 was released by the CDC in April as COVID-19 continued to spread throughout the United States.

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in:

39 to 56 million illnesses
410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations
24,000 to 62,000 deaths
195 pediatric deaths

https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2020/01/Flu-season-2020

Covid is a form of pneumonia.

Adults average about 2 to 4 colds a year, although the range varies widely.  On average, people older than age 60 have fewer than one cold a year. However, it is the people older than 60 who have been hit the hardest by Covid.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 05, 2020, 02:56:08 PM
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 05, 2020, 05:08:37 PM
Final 2019/20 Flu Numbers
The final data on flu season 2019/2020 was released by the CDC in April as COVID-19 continued to spread throughout the United States.

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in:

39 to 56 million illnesses
410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations
24,000 to 62,000 deaths
195 pediatric deaths

https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2020/01/Flu-season-2020

Covid is a form of pneumonia.

Adults average about 2 to 4 colds a year, although the range varies widely.  On average, people older than age 60 have fewer than one cold a year. However, it is the people older than 60 who have been hit the hardest by Covid.

Try over 80.  Even those under up to age 69 are barely dying of it.  Also, compare your 2019-2020 normal flu figures to the 2018-2019 flu figures in approximately the same time range [this one starting at the same date, but ending 26 days later]:

October 1, 2018–April 30, 2019, the flu resulted in:

37.4 million to 42.9 million illnesses
531,000 to 647,000 hospitalizations
36,400 to 61,200 deaths in the United States.
116 pediatric deaths

Also, 17.3 million–20.1 million medical visits.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6824a3.htm

These figures are virtually identical - so how come masks allegedly work to reduce COVID, yet flu deaths haven't reduced, meanwhile, the virus particle size for both Covid-19 and the normal seasonable influenza are approximately the same at around 12 microns?:

Normal Seasonal Influenza Virus Size:

Quote
"At times the virus activity appeared to sediment at a rate comparable with that of particles about 80 to 120 mµ in diameter, at other times at a rate comparable with that of particles about 10 mµ in diameter [...]"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2135376

Covid-19 Virus Size:

Quote
“COVID 19 virus particle size is 125 nanometers (0.125 microns); the range is 0.06 microns to .14 microns,” the post said. “The N95 mask filters down to 0.3 microns. So, N95 masks block few, if any, virions (virus particles).”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/11/fact-check-n-95-filters-not-too-large-stop-covid-19-particles/5343537002

So after all this mask-wearing and social distancing garbage, normal flu deaths haven't even dropped whatsoever?

LMAO!!!

HAHAHAHA.  Oh man, you can't make this up.  :D
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on December 05, 2020, 05:20:13 PM
Biggest bullshit lie since Y2K.

Never wear a mask
Never social distance
Never shelter in place
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 05, 2020, 05:26:18 PM
Biggest bullshit lie since Y2K.

Never wear a mask
Never social distance
Never shelter in place

HAHAHAHA, exactly.  Bill Gates can't even stop computer viruses on his own software, but expects to stop a real virus?  It's clear all that the jagoff wants is [another] recurring revenue model.  I wonder how long he thought this one through?

Check out how masks and "social distancing" [and at my gym - "Social Fitnessing", LMAO] did asbolutely nothing to help prevent the spread of the flu this past flu season compared to the 2018-2019 season prior to it:

Final 2019/20 Flu Numbers

Between October 1, 2019 and April 4, 2020, the flu resulted in:

39 to 56 million illnesses
410,000 to 740,000 hospitalizations
24,000 to 62,000 deaths
195 pediatric deaths

https://hive.rochesterregional.org/2020/01/Flu-season-2020

October 1, 2018–April 30, 2019, the flu resulted in:

37.4 million to 42.9 million illnesses
531,000 to 647,000 hospitalizations
36,400 to 61,200 deaths in the United States.
116 pediatric deaths

Also, 17.3 million–20.1 million medical visits.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6824a3.htm
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 06, 2020, 10:21:07 AM
I have a relative who works in a local hospital.  She has been totally on board with social distancing, mask wearing and thinks anyone who isn't is a conspiracy theorist.  Last week they had a really old guy who was slowly dying and when he did die they listed it as a Covid death and she knows that he never tested positive for Covid.  Even she is questioning it now.  She was told all staff will be required to take the vaccine as soon as it is available and that they must be sure to document any negative side effects of the vaccination.  She admits they are guinea pigs to the vaccine.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 06, 2020, 10:30:49 AM
I have a relative who works in a local hospital.  She has been totally on board with social distancing, mask wearing and thinks anyone who isn't is a conspiracy theorist.  Last week they had a really old guy who was slowly dying and when he did die they listed it as a Covid death and she knows that he never tested positive for Covid.  Even she is questioning it now.  She was told all staff will be required to take the vaccine as soon as it is available and that they must be sure to document any negative side effects of the vaccination.  She admits they are guinea pigs to the vaccine.

Do people just listen to what they hear, and women at a rate much greater than men?  From the beginning I was skeptical about this, but for the first three months, I will admit - I didn't know.  But once adequate mortality rate data came out, I stopped worrying about it.

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 06, 2020, 10:34:44 AM
Do people just listen to what they hear, and women at a rate much greater than men?  From the beginning I was skeptical about this, but for the first three months, I will admit - I didn't know.  But once adequate mortality rate data came out, I stopped worrying about it.
Yes they do, especially women.  Think back to grade school, who were most of the teacher's pets?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 06, 2020, 10:38:44 AM
Yes they do, especially women.  Think back to grade school, who were most of the teacher's pets?

Todays men are just as bad as woman, masculinity is dead, weak cunty men rolled over and help empower these fat Karen fucks! It will be the vaxxers ratting out the anti-vaxxers very soon, it's going to get ugly!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 06, 2020, 10:40:08 AM
I have a relative who works in a local hospital.  She has been totally on board with social distancing, mask wearing and thinks anyone who isn't is a conspiracy theorist.  Last week they had a really old guy who was slowly dying and when he did die they listed it as a Covid death and she knows that he never tested positive for Covid.  Even she is questioning it now.  She was told all staff will be required to take the vaccine as soon as it is available and that they must be sure to document any negative side effects of the vaccination.  She admits they are guinea pigs to the vaccine.

Once I read that per each COVID patient hospitals would receive upwards of 11-13k, I knew this shit would become a fucking joke. Aside from hospitals billing patients AND their insurance companies, they would also get a kickback from the government so as long as the diagnoses included COVID, that's when I knew this would get out of hand. Hospitals are simply businesses. They are not owned by doctors. Doctors are merely employees that will do as their employers/masters say.

While I believe the covid virus is real, I do not believe it is as devastating as these fearmongers claim it to be.

"1"
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 06, 2020, 10:40:19 AM
Todays men are just as bad as woman, masculinity is dead, weak cunty men rolled over and help empower these fat Karen fucks! It will be the vaxxers ratting out the anti-vaxxers very soon, it's going to get ugly!
Just ask them, "why do I have to get vaccinated if you are?"
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 06, 2020, 10:40:50 AM
Do people just listen to what they hear, and women at a rate much greater than men?  From the beginning I was skeptical about this, but for the first three months, I will admit - I didn't know.  But once adequate mortality rate data came out, I stopped worrying about it.

Matty Aspy, look up the CDC numbers for IFR (Infection Fatality Rates) for COVID.

You will see that essentially anyone under the age of 60, without underlying medical conditions, is safe from dying of COVID.

Even the age groups over 60 and with underlying medical conditions the IFR is about 6 people per 100,000 infected.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 06, 2020, 10:42:50 AM
Once I read that per each COVID patient hospitals would receive upwards of 11-13k, I knew this shit would become a fucking joke. Aside from hospitals billing patients AND their insurance companies, they would also get a kickback from the government so as long as the diagnoses included COVID, that's when I knew this would get out of hand. Hospitals are simply businesses. They are not owned by doctors. Doctors are merely employees that will do as their employers/masters say.

While I believe the covid virus is real, I do not believe it is as devastating as these fearmongers claim it to be.

"1"
Yep, it's a cash cow.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: JustPlaneJane on December 06, 2020, 10:56:56 AM
Once I read that per each COVID patient hospitals would receive upwards of 11-13k, I knew this shit would become a fucking joke. Aside from hospitals billing patients AND their insurance companies, they would also get a kickback from the government so as long as the diagnoses included COVID, that's when I knew this would get out of hand. Hospitals are simply businesses. They are not owned by doctors. Doctors are merely employees that will do as their employers/masters say.

While I believe the covid virus is real, I do not believe it is as devastating as these fearmongers claim it to be.

"1"

Your numbers are way low. We bill between $14,000-$20,000 per patient reimbursement depending on whether they are insured or uninsured. The uninsured reimbursement is covered under the $100 billion in the CARES Act. If the patient is put on a ventilator for up to 96 hours, the reimbursement is between $40,000-$50,000.

Keep in mind, you do not have to test positive to have been “treated” for COVID or COVID-like symptoms. If you are listed as a positive result, and have underlying medical issues, the reimbursement claims can be double what I’ve listed.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: OneMoreRep on December 06, 2020, 12:20:43 PM
Your numbers are way low. We bill between $14,000-$20,000 per patient reimbursement depending on whether they are insured or uninsured. The uninsured reimbursement is covered under the $100 billion in the CARES Act. If the patient is put on a ventilator for up to 96 hours, the reimbursement is between $40,000-$50,000.

Keep in mind, you do not have to test positive to have been “treated” for COVID or COVID-like symptoms. If you are listed as a positive result, and have underlying medical issues, the reimbursement claims can be double what I’ve listed.

Adding even more fuel to the fire.

It's become a cash-grab for the hospital systems. They would love for you to send them all your COVID patients. Granted, I know that they also did that purposely to counterbalance the lack of ALL nonemergent surgeries that had to be placed on hold and outpatient visits that were not able to be had. Still, they ended up pushing most cold-symptoms as COVID-like symptoms.

"1"
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 06, 2020, 12:49:31 PM
Just ask them, "why do I have to get vaccinated if you are?"

exactly... isn't that the entire point of getting vaccinated?

my dog gets a parvo vaccine so it doesnt get parvo

my kid gets a polio vaccine so it doesnt get polio


YOU get a covid vaccine so you don't get covid..



Fuck do you care if I or anyone else gets vax'd or not...LOL


Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 06, 2020, 01:34:53 PM
I don’t care if you swallow Clorox bro

Just don’t expect me too

Do not use your fear politically

Fear is not a virtue

As much as you might like it to be

It won’t ever be
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 07, 2020, 08:57:39 AM
I don’t care if you swallow Clorox bro

Just don’t expect me too

Do not use your fear politically

Fear is not a virtue

As much as you might like it to be

It won’t ever be

In Thunder Bay, fear is a virtue.

Yesterday, Big Loz [Laurence Shahlaei] posted this:



^ Czech Powerlifter Petr Petras [I had never heard of him before Big Loz posted that video] broke the raw [w/ knee wraps] powerlifting record, hitting hitting 1,160-kg [2,557-lb], and Big Loz posted the link for Petr's Instagram page:

https://www.instagram.com/petras.petr

Annnndd...what do we have here:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CINl0k1A1Fi/

^ If literally the strongest man in the world by powerlifting standards is wearing a mask in an empty warehouse, what chance is there that the general sheep members of the public are going to not wear masks.  If the shepherd is going along with this, it's a pretty strong indication to me that the sheep will go along with this too.  :-\
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: King Shizzo on December 07, 2020, 09:00:31 AM
LOL! There's always one kook in the bunch. The one who thinks he knows all the deep dark secrets in the world. A nobody that someone has access to back room dark ops. The one who is the enlightened one and sees the rest as "clueless".

What a sad joke you are. OK, so you know the "real" truth. So what are you going to do? Jack shit. You will horde toilet paper, ammo, can goods, and bottled water and sit in your little hovel patting yourself on the back that you're ahead of the game and the rest will be victims. This time next year life will go on and you will still be preaching how the government wants to make us all sick and put us in concentration camps because they will be so great for the tax base and cause a windfall of profits for the government.
Meltdown.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: G_Thang on December 07, 2020, 09:10:02 AM
21 FuckBoi Vaccines

3 Half-A$$ Approved

AD5 (possibly increase risk of HIV infections) Vaccines potentially distributed to countries with high HIV infections.  Can't make this FuckBoi sh!t up!

2 FuckBoi injections with limited immunity

Mandatory FuckBoy requirement for Hlthcare workers even though they have been virus free since February

Fuckboi Gen Z and Millennial Vectors. 
 
Fuckboi Pharmas putting out Fuckboi vaccines for  govt contract. Hlth concerns out the Fuckboi window.

2020 The Year of the FuckBois!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: epic is back on December 07, 2020, 09:12:34 AM
dont forget the avocado toast
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: G_Thang on December 14, 2020, 12:38:31 AM
Fucboi Pharma Vaccine but no anti-body test to eliminate a need for the Fucboi Vaccine but the Fucbois always have a trick up their sleeves to have you still take the Fucboi Vaccine.  Oh, we think the antibodies are from viruses which cause the common cold.

You can't even get in the vaccine FREE group.   
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 14, 2020, 07:28:56 PM
cuz all of this is outside of my purview... allowing my unfettered mind to narrow in on reality, hopefully formulating a complete picture over time.

that post is a cursory view into this bullshit, and in line with the way your biology operates (reverse transcription).

a better question would b - how did hiv find its way into the rona?

not by accident:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag)

We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019- nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.

^ That bit about HIV is a bombshell right there.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: tommywishbone on December 14, 2020, 10:28:28 PM
I don’t care if you swallow Clorox bro

Just don’t expect me too

Do not use your fear politically

Fear is not a virtue

As much as you might like it to be

It won’t ever be

Right on!

Fear is the very worst thing. The very worst. Cowards live in fear.  And cowards are dangerous because they are reactionary. The strong and the brave are not reactionary.

I grow weary of all these cowards.

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Kwon on December 15, 2020, 02:09:17 AM
Regarding the Vaccine - They will chip us and turn us into Robots

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Griffith on December 15, 2020, 08:47:33 AM
^ That bit about HIV is a bombshell right there.

How are the two related?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 15, 2020, 09:11:29 AM
Your numbers are way low. We bill between $14,000-$20,000 per patient reimbursement depending on whether they are insured or uninsured. The uninsured reimbursement is covered under the $100 billion in the CARES Act. If the patient is put on a ventilator for up to 96 hours, the reimbursement is between $40,000-$50,000.

Keep in mind, you do not have to test positive to have been “treated” for COVID or COVID-like symptoms. If you are listed as a positive result, and have underlying medical issues, the reimbursement claims can be double what I’ve listed.

My RN manager friend who works in a large downtown Philly hospital confirmed all this to me back in July.  100% true.

The entire healthcare system is a scam.  All about the money, not your health.  We are just cash cows for them. 

Best way to beat these fuckers is to NOT get sick.  NEVER allow yourself to be admitted into a hospital unless some type of trauma happens to you.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 15, 2020, 11:25:31 AM
My RN manager friend who works in a large downtown Philly hospital confirmed all this to me back in July.  100% true.

The entire healthcare system is a scam.  All about the money, not your health.  We are just cash cows for them. 

Best way to beat these fuckers is to NOT get sick.  NEVER allow yourself to be admitted into a hospital unless some type of trauma happens to you.
True, stay in great shape so you never have to get on cholesterol meds or blood pressure pills.  The medicos have been pushing cholesterol meds on anyone over 35 for a while now.  Those pills cause more problems than they cure.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 01:20:23 PM
My RN manager friend who works in a large downtown Philly hospital confirmed all this to me back in July.  100% true.

The entire healthcare system is a scam.  All about the money, not your health.  We are just cash cows for them. 

Best way to beat these fuckers is to NOT get sick.  NEVER allow yourself to be admitted into a hospital unless some type of trauma happens to you.

The same is true for Canada's "free" healthcare system too.  Ultimately, the same corporations profit from it.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 01:34:15 PM
My RN manager friend who works in a large downtown Philly hospital confirmed all this to me back in July.  100% true.

The entire healthcare system is a scam.  All about the money, not your health.  We are just cash cows for them. 

Best way to beat these fuckers is to NOT get sick.  NEVER allow yourself to be admitted into a hospital unless some type of trauma happens to you.


Just so you know, you have to request hospital admission, unless some trauma happens that is so bad you end up in the ER. Even then, you have to consent. Your doctor may suggest it, but ultimately it is up to you.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Howard on December 15, 2020, 02:39:38 PM
Fucboi Pharma Vaccine but no anti-body test to eliminate a need for the Fucboi Vaccine but the Fucbois always have a trick up their sleeves to have you still take the Fucboi Vaccine.  Oh, we think the antibodies are from viruses which cause the common cold.

You can't even get in the vaccine FREE group.

This Pfizer vaccine uses a   mRNA that blocks the peak protein of covid from infiltrating cell membranes.

We ended dreaded diseases like Polio with a vaccine.

Everyone needs to get the covid vaccine in 2021.



Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 15, 2020, 02:44:58 PM
This Pfizer vaccine uses a   mRNA that blocks the peak protein of covid from infiltrating cell membranes.

We ended dreaded diseases like Polio with a vaccine.

Everyone needs to get the covid vaccine in 2021.

2021: The year of telling people what they need to do.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Howard on December 15, 2020, 02:53:48 PM
2021: The year of telling people what they need to do.

Taking this vaccine is a no brainer  , like  not to hook up with a 6ft tall "girl "with size 13 heels and an adams apple.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 03:01:19 PM
How are the two related?

I'm willing to admit when I don't know an answer to something, but from what I can tell, the Covid-19 genome indicates that it is a modified virus - an extremely infectious bat coronavirus that had four HIV inserts added to it, to make it spread easily among humans.

In other words, if it is true that the HIV inserts were added to the virus genome, it would lend strong evidence to the possibility that the virus was a manmade bio-weapon.  From there, the only question would be whether or not it was released intentionally, or escaped from the lab by accident.

I love how everyone somehow knew from the beginning that it was a natural virus.  ::)  Everyone was such an expert about a once-in-a-century pandemic.  In my case, from the beginning, I said that I wouldn't be able to fully understand the virus [to the best of my personal ability, that is] until I have at least two years of data.

It's remarkable how so many people know so much about a virus that's currently barely over a year old.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 03:05:40 PM
Taking this vaccine is a no brainer  , like  not to hook up with a 6ft tall "girl "with size 13 heels and an adams apple.

I have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than dying of COVID, so I'll definitely be rushing to be the first in line to get a vaccine that went from development to administration in under nine months.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 15, 2020, 03:11:35 PM
I'd be more willing to believe what I'm told if it wasn't so often a lie.

Am I free to be mistaken or is individual decision making the real problem?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Howard on December 15, 2020, 04:30:44 PM
I have a greater chance of being struck by lightning than dying of COVID, so I'll definitely be rushing to be the first in line to get a vaccine that went from development to administration in under nine months.

With that kind of enlightened thinking ,we'd still treat illness with blood letting , leaches and witch trials.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 05:25:03 PM
How are the two related?

understand the virus.

this is the rona (a single strand of 'designer' covid19 RNA):

(https://greatgameindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Multiple-sequence-alignment-between-spike-proteins-of-2019-nCoV-and-SARS-1024x811.jpg)

those four short (incomplete) sequences of hiv 1 genetic code (black boxes) (verified) inserted within the total RNA genomic sequence of covid19... are a problem.

hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.

covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.

thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.

its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.

making designer rona... in effect a retrovirus – which increases transmissibility (increasing morbidity (not mortality))

also... this 'new DNA'... is in effect artificially procured 'complementary DNA' (cDNA)... which is - patentable.

how did hiv find its way into the rona?

not by accident:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338957445_Uncanny_similarity_of_unique_inserts_in_the_2019-nCoV_spike_protein_to_HIV-1_gp120_and_Gag

We are currently witnessing a major epidemic caused by the 2019 novel coronavirus (2019- nCoV). The evolution of 2019-nCoV remains elusive. We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature.

more hiv fragments have been identified within the designer rona... 18 of them now (6 + 6 + 6 = 18 - how perfect, lol)

'18 RNA fragments of homology equal or more than 80% with human or simian retroviruses have been found in the COVID_19 genome.'

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/342926066_COVID-19_SARS_and_Bats_Coronaviruses_Genomes_Peculiar_Homologous_RNA_Sequences_Jean_Claude_perez_Luc_Montagnier

^ not citing shlubs, here ^

this vaccine will introduce modified, synthetic mRNA (based on 'modified' rona retrovirus)

which will do what?

reverse transcribe into single strand cDNA, generating into double strand cDNA, incorporating into (via integrase enzyme) host cell genome - rendering your innate DNA desolate.

Australian Covid-19 vaccine trials ended after test subjects return 'false positive' HIV results
"Follow up tests confirmed that there is no HIV virus present, just a false positive on certain HIV tests. There is no possibility the vaccine causes infection," the statement added.

Fucboi vaccines!

^ thats what we call confirmation ^
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 05:26:08 PM
I'd be more willing to believe what I'm told if it wasn't so often a lie.

Am I free to be mistaken or is individual decision making the real problem?

Exactly, exactly, exactly.

Even if all your decisions were responsible both individually and in terms of regard for public health, you are at fault.  As for lies:

Do you remember "Just two weeks to flatten the curve!"?

Do you remember how hospitals were going to be overwhelmed last winter, then once again in October?

Do you remember when NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo said he needed an additional 30,000 ventilators because the total number of ventilators in the state was 3,000 to 4,000, and he said that Trump should either give the 30,000 ventilators [at a total cost of $1.5 to $3 billion dollars], or if not, pick the 30,000 people to die.  Meanwhile, as of today, 35,288 in the state of New York have died, and only 39,209 have required ventilation over the past nine months.  That means that New York BARELY exceeded its ventilator capacity in the worst month - and didn't come REMOTELY CLOSE to needed 30,000 additional ventilators.

LIES, LIES, LIES.

And now what - "Just two weeks to flatten the curve!" for the rest of our lives?  Continuing with masks and social distancing, despite a vaccine available to any fool under 60 in good health stupid enough to get a vaccine for a virus they have a greater than 99.9% chance of surviving, knowing that Pfizer is legally protected from any side effects, long-term health problems, or even DEATHS that the vaccine may cause?

I am ASTONISHED at how long the ones pushing the COVID narrative can carry on crying wolf, with the public believing them.  I only have one friend outside the internet who even has a friend who has even HAD Covid-19 so far - let alone get seriously ill or even die from it.

People die EVERY DAY of ALL SORTS OF CAUSES.  But with the Covid-19 deaths posted online by themselves with no other causes of death listed for perspective, people are scared of a virus that, while real, is only a threat to extreme geriatrics, or people under 70 in extreme poor health.

The narrative is also set up in a way that no matter what the outcome, they can't go wrong - if lockdowns result in very few deaths, all the more reason to continue the lockdowns!  If complete freedom results in very few deaths - UH OH! - better lock everything down in case people start dying.

No matter WHAT the result, it will be used to continue on the current trajectory, take away more freedoms [or keep them away], and continue on the path of a controlled demolition of the global economy.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: TheGrinch on December 15, 2020, 06:31:22 PM
understand the virus.

^ again - i'm not citing shlubs, here ^ (copy/paste links into address bar) ^

^ thats what we call confirmation ^

Yes.. I get it...

What I don't get is why they feel they need to give everyone on the planet HIV?


Didn't Tbombz do that already?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 06:42:45 PM
With that kind of enlightened thinking ,we'd still treat illness with blood letting , leaches and witch trials.

Huh?  ???  Am I stopping you from getting a rushed vaccine that has no long-term data available [or even possible] yet, whose maker has been granted legal indemnity from civil lawsuits in the event of illness or even death arising from its use, for a virus that has a lower chance of killing you than the odds of you being struck by lightning?

I used to get the flu shot about every second year, for years, with 2014 being the last time I got one.  This scamdemic has made me realize how stupid even that was, and that I should have never gotten a vaccine for something my immune system could easily handle on its own - providing that I self-isolate at home and don't put others at risk, I have no ethical obligation to get vaccinated over something my immune system can handle on its own.

I always stay home once symptoms of any sickness emerge and self-isolate completely until I have every medical reason to believe I am no longer contagious.  I live alone in a stand-alone single-detached dwelling home, and I am always predictably symptomatic when sick [and thus know when I am contagious].  Since complete self-isolation is possible for me, I have no moral issues remaining unvaccinated.

Healthy people are being told that THEY must change their lifestyles to prevent others from getting sick - yet the people at-risk are not being targeted with the same social pressure to take care of themselves?  ???

It's akin to telling responsible drivers to drive slowly and exercise caution in order to pose less risk to people driving without seatbelts, and guilt-trip those responsible drivers until they submit to all manner of new driving guidelines.

How about this: let the minority of germophobes who are so scared of this virus use services like curbside pickup, get the vaccine, and LOCK THEMSELVES IN THEIR BASEMENTS, and let the rest of us move on with our lives?!

You deride me for not wanting to get a rushed vaccine for a virus that poses next to no threat to me.  Yet you fail to explain why you do not take equal precautions against other things which have the same or greater percentage chance of killing you.  It's analogous to telling a 400-lb man to wear a hazmat suit to save himself from COVID when he is far more likely to get sick or die from his obesity.  So tell me something, Howard - given you are roughly as likely to die from COVID as you are from driving a car, why are you still driving a car?  Why aren't you proportionally applying the same protective measures you are for COVID to everything else you do that poses a risk to you and others?

Why are you still driving a car?  Why are you not on blood pressure medication?  Why are you not severely restricting your diet in case you get diabetes or celiac disease?

The answer is because the TV is telling you to be afraid of COVID.  And that's fine - YOU can be afraid of COVID, just like you can be afraid of getting struck by lightning.  But the audacity for you to tell me to get an untested vaccine for a virus that poses almost no threat to me, when I am offered no legal protection in the event that vaccine damages my health is really something else.

Go get your untested vaccine.  You can have my dose while you're at it.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 07:04:35 PM
Howard is Jewish.  Howard, as with most Jews, is above the average White level of intelligence [>100 IQ].

Jews have the highest average IQ scores of any racial group, and so it's not shocking to me that they have pound-for-pound the most political power in the world, and essentially have more social influence on White people than White people have on themselves.

But what's interesting to me, speaking to Howard [a high IQ Jew], is how silly his arguments are.  When I read Howard's comments, I feel like I'm reading the comments of a bricklayer [no offense to bricklayers].  Yet Howard is a high IQ Jew, and high IQ Jews have tremendous influence on the White masses.

If a high IQ Jew like Howard is so much lower in IQ than me that it presents a gap that can barely be bridged, it just makes me awestruck by how dumb the average White person must be...and how my entire life I've been interacting with my fellow Whites, not grasping that my personal cognitive computing power is so much higher than theirs that we are barely the same species.  I am NOT saying I am super smart - I'm saying the average White person is dumb AF.  And to think that Whites are the most successful race...it's shocking.

What I like about Getbig is that, despite claims to the contrary and any other criticism of this board, this board is FILLED with plenty of extremely smart [and strong] men.  I can honestly say I've learned more posting on Getbig than I did in any level of formal education.

This board in general, and this thread in particular, just goes to show how much smarter Getbig is than any average segment of society.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 07:10:37 PM
What I don't get is why they feel they need to give everyone on the planet HIV?

they want the rona to spread, not hiv – hiv snippets function as vector, u will not in effect attain hiv

again:

hiv is a retrovirus... with the ability to enter into the nucleus and change the host cell DNA.

covid is the delivery system by which the hiv snippets gain access into the cell, once inside the cytoplasm (both covid and hiv), the hiv genetic material becomes the way (thru nuclear pore complex) by which the entire genomic sequence of covid is transferred into the nucleus... binding to and permanently changing the host DNA.

thats why hiv was crispred into the rona – gain of function.

its the sequence of covid, assisted into the nucleus by hiv.. that then 'goes viral'.. exporting new DNA.. expressed as a single strand of RNA - from cell to cell – until every last cell in the body is transformed.

the 'why', tho... is the fun part
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 15, 2020, 07:15:52 PM
Howard is Jewish.  Howard, as with most Jews, is above the average White level of intelligence [>100 IQ].

Jews have the highest average IQ scores of any racial group, and so it's not shocking to me that they have pound-for-pound the most political power in the world, and essentially have more social influence on White people than White people have on themselves.

But what's interesting to me, speaking to Howard [a high IQ Jew], is how silly his arguments are.  When I read Howard's comments, I feel like I'm reading the comments of a bricklayer [no offense to bricklayers].  Yet Howard is a high IQ Jew, and high IQ Jews have tremendous influence on the White masses.

If a high IQ Jew like Howard is so much lower in IQ than me that it presents a gap that can barely be bridged, it just makes me awestruck by how dumb the average White person must be...and how my entire life I've been interacting with my fellow Whites, not grasping that my personal cognitive computing power is so much higher than theirs that we are barely the same species.  I am NOT saying I am super smart - I'm saying the average White person is dumb AF.  And to think that Whites are the most successful race...it's shocking.

What I like about Getbig is that, despite claims to the contrary and any other criticism of this board, this board is FILLED with plenty of extremely smart [and strong] men.  I can honestly say I've learned more posting on Getbig than I did in any level of formal education.

This board in general, and this thread in particular, just goes to show how much smarter Getbig is than any average segment of society.

You have below average IQ.

Your autism allows you to memorize things and pretend it’s intellect.

Like Greta Thurberg talking about global warming.

You’re weak and the only minimal strength gains you’ve ever experienced were through the use of drugs.

Every day you cry on here about the thousand excuses you have for being a failure. Here, let me help you:

It’s not the fault of Jewish people
It’s not the fault of women.
It’s not the fault of Lakehead University
It’s not the fault of politicians
It’s not the fault of what is going on in America
It’s not the fault of whatever other excuses your overly huge head has dreamed up

The fault is you. You’re not “special”, you’re “special needs”, grow the fuck up, Getbig is not a lifestyle or career choice, you Aspy fuck.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 07:22:40 PM
understand the virus.

^ again - i'm not citing shlubs, here ^ (copy/paste links into address bar) ^

^ thats what we call confirmation ^

This is mind-boggling stuff - at least, IMO.  And as you said, your citations are the real deal.

What do you think this means in terms of the nature of Covid-19?  Specifically: do you think this is evidence that Covid-19 is a manmade bioweapon, or do you think Covid-19 is a naturally-occurring bat coronavirus, or whatever the "official" explanation was?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 08:11:08 PM
You have below average IQ.

Your autism allows you to memorize things and pretend it’s intellect.

Like Greta Thurberg talking about global warming.

You’re weak and the only minimal strength gains you’ve ever experienced were through the use of drugs.

My largest muscular size was the product of what limited use of steroids I've had, which does not constitute beyond the term "dabbling".  As I believe the the biggest and leanest I've ever been was in 2006 when I was around 190-lb, and the leanest I've been on that size.  That was during my third and last "real" [injectable] cycle, which I cut short after eight weeks, due to pneumonia.  I never used again after that because I felt that post-steroids, every man will just go back to his natural size anyway - often losing most or even all of the gains he made juicing, while retaining various side effects [acne, hair loss...even gyno].

I literally have the thickest head of hair of anyone I know.  Is my hairline somehow impervious to steroid-related loss?  Or maybe is it possible that I'm not using steroids - and have but a scant history of ever using them?

Van Bilderass called me out for using, based on my disproportionate shoulder size at the time.  Van is a bit of a steroid expert, and the fact that he called me out for using is flattering to me.  It's not to suggest I was a monster, but I had enough mass for him to suspect I had some assistance.

But that's SIZE...yes, my largest size was indeed attained while on steroids or strong supplements [Gaspari Nutrition SIZE-ON was extremely potent - despite claims, there are supplements that work out there].

As for my maximum strength?  No.  Steroids played no role in that.  All of my maximum lifts were achieved without the use of steroids, or even supplements for that matter.  There is no personal best lift that I made while on steroids.  Take the contest below - I weighed 163-lb in that contest.  Do you really think I'm on steroids here?  Again - I am 163-lb here.  And it's not like I'm some ultra-shredded 163:



I've used 250mg of Anadrol in total over the course of the past decade.  Literally one half of one 50mg Anadrol every second day, for 20 days.  So you live in some sort of alternate reality where everyone is stronger than me, when in reality, I'm the strongest man in every room I enter at least 90% of the time.

There are not currently 50 men in my city of 108,000 with more upper body/pressing strength than me.  This is why when you talk about me being weak, I have no idea what you are talking about.  I bench press 250 for 17.  Yeah, my butt is arched like a rainbow for at least half of those reps, but the fact that you call that weak just makes me wonder if you are delusional.  Most men don't hit that level of upper body strength with or without steroids.

Every day you cry on here about the thousand excuses you have for being a failure. Here, let me help you:

It’s not the fault of Jewish people
It’s not the fault of women.
It’s not the fault of Lakehead University
It’s not the fault of politicians
It’s not the fault of what is going on in America
It’s not the fault of whatever other excuses your overly huge head has dreamed up

The fault is you. You’re not “special”, you’re “special needs”, grow the fuck up, Getbig is not a lifestyle or career choice, you Aspy fuck.

The first two are an oversimplification.  But in a nutshell:

- Yes, Jewish influence is the primary reason why Whites are being replaced in Western society.  In 20 years, when you find yourself on an elevator as the only White man, and the only person speaking English, come back and tell me I'm wrong about White people being displaced.  And yes, Jews do have a prominent role in this.  It's not the "fault" of Jewish people, but go tell that to a Palestinian, and let me know what they say.

- Divorce rates are currently higher than they've been at any point in the past 50 years.  #MeToo feminism is a major liability, not "women".  But feminist brainwashing is so universal, it's literally impossible to meet a woman who isn't influenced by it.  If you want to get married and risk losing half your net worth in a divorce - go ahead.  Go move to a Black neighbourhood, and invite homeless people and refugees to come live with you too.  The hypocrisy in what you say is that you act like these aren't problems, while you're no doubt sheltered in some 99% White area because you know full well my concerns are legitimate, and you yourself share them.

- I guess that explains why Lakehead University has been sued successfully multiple times.

- All the politicians are in lockstep, and the global economy has currently taken a $10 TRILLION hit.  If current trends continue, the global economy will collapse in 18 months.  Politicians are largely responsible for this, given not one single one of them has the balls to say anything counter-narrative.  Ontario Premier Doug Ford weighs 330-lb, and he's threatening to cancel Christmas over COVID.  How about he can put the cheesecake down before dictating anything about health to me?

- I am 100% pro-USA.  The USA provides more military protection to Canada than Canada's own military.  My concern is that if civil unrest spreads across the USA, it will eventually spill over into Canada.  And if the USA can't [more likely, with Biden in charge - WON'T] take care of the civil unrest, what do you think will happen in Canada?  American politics generally impact me more as a Canadian than Canadian politics do.  The USA is our biggest trading partner, after all.  So yes, I have real reason to worry about the USA.

Lastly, you talk about COVID like the economic loss and fallout of all this won't impact you.  As if you are somehow above being impacted by a global economic crash.  If current deficit spending and other economic damage continues, we will ALL be impacted, and since "JUST TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE!!" has now proven to have no end in sight, I obviously have a reason to be concerned.

But as for your points about having a below average IQ, and being weak...this is objectively false.

You live in some strange world where bench pressing three plates for reps is weak.  I just find this baffling, but then I need to remind myself: you're lying.

I encourage you to enroll in Black Studies at the university nearest you, move to a Black or Hispanic neighbourhood, marry a feminist, invite as many homeless people and refugees to live with you as possible, wear a hazmat suit when you go out to buy eggs, and post videos of your 350+ bench press.

The average man is not as strong as me.  In terms of potential is another matter.  But objectively, the average man is not stronger than I am.  I just don't get why you're lying.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Dave D on December 15, 2020, 08:42:06 PM
My largest muscular size was the product of what limited use of steroids I've had, which does not constitute beyond the term "dabbling".  As I believe the the biggest and leanest I've ever been was in 2006 when I was around 190-lb, and the leanest I've been on that size.  That was during my third and last "real" [injectable] cycle, which I cut short after eight weeks, due to pneumonia.  I never used again after that because I felt that post-steroids, every man will just go back to his natural size anyway - often losing most or even all of the gains he made juicing, while retaining various side effects [acne, hair loss...even gyno].

I literally have the thickest head of hair of anyone I know.  Is my hairline somehow impervious to steroid-related loss?  Or maybe is it possible that I'm not using steroids - and have but a scant history of ever using them?

Van Bilderass called me out for using, based on my disproportionate shoulder size at the time.  Van is a bit of a steroid expert, and the fact that he called me out for using is flattering to me.  It's not to suggest I was a monster, but I had enough mass for him to suspect I had some assistance.

But that's SIZE...yes, my largest size was indeed attained while on steroids or strong supplements [Gaspari Nutrition SIZE-ON was extremely potent - despite claims, there are supplements that work out there].

As for my maximum strength?  No.  Steroids played no role in that.  All of my maximum lifts were achieved without the use of steroids, or even supplements for that matter.  There is no personal best lift that I made while on steroids.  Take the contest below - I weighed 163-lb in that contest.  Do you really think I'm on steroids here?  Again - I am 163-lb here.  And it's not like I'm some ultra-shredded 163:



I've used 250mg of Anadrol in total over the course of the past decade.  Literally one half of one 50mg Anadrol every second day, for 20 days.  So you live in some sort of alternate reality where everyone is stronger than me, when in reality, I'm the strongest man in every room I enter at least 90% of the time.

There are not currently 50 men in my city of 108,000 with more upper body/pressing strength than me.  This is why when you talk about me being weak, I have no idea what you are talking about.  I bench press 250 for 17.  Yeah, my butt is arched like a rainbow for at least half of those reps, but the fact that you call that weak just makes me wonder if you are delusional.  Most men don't hit that level of upper body strength with or without steroids.

The first two are an oversimplification.  But in a nutshell:

- Yes, Jewish influence is the primary reason why Whites are being replaced in Western society.  In 20 years, when you find yourself on an elevator as the only White man, and the only person speaking English, come back and tell me I'm wrong about White people being displaced.  And yes, Jews do have a prominent role in this.  It's not the "fault" of Jewish people, but go tell that to a Palestinian, and let me know what they say.

- Divorce rates are currently higher than they've been at any point in the past 50 years.  #MeToo feminism is a major liability, not "women".  But feminist brainwashing is so universal, it's literally impossible to meet a woman who isn't influenced by it.  If you want to get married and risk losing half your net worth in a divorce - go ahead.  Go move to a Black neighbourhood, and invite homeless people and refugees to come live with you too.  The hypocrisy in what you say is that you act like these aren't problems, while you're no doubt sheltered in some 99% White area because you know full well my concerns are legitimate, and you yourself share them.

- I guess that explains why Lakehead University has been sued successfully multiple times.

- All the politicians are in lockstep, and the global economy has currently taken a $10 TRILLION hit.  If current trends continue, the global economy will collapse in 18 months.  Politicians are largely responsible for this, given not one single one of them has the balls to say anything counter-narrative.  Ontario Premier Doug Ford weighs 330-lb, and he's threatening to cancel Christmas over COVID.  How about he can put the cheesecake down before dictating anything about health to me?

- I am 100% pro-USA.  The USA provides more military protection to Canada than Canada's own military.  My concern is that if civil unrest spreads across the USA, it will eventually spill over into Canada.  And if the USA can't [more likely, with Biden in charge - WON'T] take care of the civil unrest, what do you think will happen in Canada?  American politics generally impact me more as a Canadian than Canadian politics do.  The USA is our biggest trading partner, after all.  So yes, I have real reason to worry about the USA.

Lastly, you talk about COVID like the economic loss and fallout of all this won't impact you.  As if you are somehow above being impacted by a global economic crash.  If current deficit spending and other economic damage continues, we will ALL be impacted, and since "JUST TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE!!" has now proven to have no end in sight, I obviously have a reason to be concerned.

But as for your points about having a below average IQ, and being weak...this is objectively false.

You live in some strange world where bench pressing three plates for reps is weak.  I just find this baffling, but then I need to remind myself: you're lying.

I encourage you to enroll in Black Studies at the university nearest you, move to a Black or Hispanic neighbourhood, marry a feminist, invite as many homeless people and refugees to live with you as possible, wear a hazmat suit when you go out to buy eggs, and post videos of your 350+ bench press.

The average man is not as strong as me.  In terms of potential is another matter.  But objectively, the average man is not stronger than I am.  I just don't get why you're lying.

Matt once you use steroids it alters your muscle cells permanently so when you were your strongest, post steroids, it was in part due to steroids. No two ways about it.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 08:48:57 PM
hiv snippets function as vector

not only vector, required for binding, as well... so vector +
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 15, 2020, 08:59:30 PM
My largest muscular size was the product of what limited use of steroids I've had, which does not constitute beyond the term "dabbling".  As I believe the the biggest and leanest I've ever been was in 2006 when I was around 190-lb, and the leanest I've been on that size.  That was during my third and last "real" [injectable] cycle, which I cut short after eight weeks, due to pneumonia.  I never used again after that because I felt that post-steroids, every man will just go back to his natural size anyway - often losing most or even all of the gains he made juicing, while retaining various side effects [acne, hair loss...even gyno].

I literally have the thickest head of hair of anyone I know.  Is my hairline somehow impervious to steroid-related loss?  Or maybe is it possible that I'm not using steroids - and have but a scant history of ever using them?

Van Bilderass called me out for using, based on my disproportionate shoulder size at the time.  Van is a bit of a steroid expert, and the fact that he called me out for using is flattering to me.  It's not to suggest I was a monster, but I had enough mass for him to suspect I had some assistance.

But that's SIZE...yes, my largest size was indeed attained while on steroids or strong supplements [Gaspari Nutrition SIZE-ON was extremely potent - despite claims, there are supplements that work out there].

As for my maximum strength?  No.  Steroids played no role in that.  All of my maximum lifts were achieved without the use of steroids, or even supplements for that matter.  There is no personal best lift that I made while on steroids.  Take the contest below - I weighed 163-lb in that contest.  Do you really think I'm on steroids here?  Again - I am 163-lb here.  And it's not like I'm some ultra-shredded 163:



I've used 250mg of Anadrol in total over the course of the past decade.  Literally one half of one 50mg Anadrol every second day, for 20 days.  So you live in some sort of alternate reality where everyone is stronger than me, when in reality, I'm the strongest man in every room I enter at least 90% of the time.

There are not currently 50 men in my city of 108,000 with more upper body/pressing strength than me.  This is why when you talk about me being weak, I have no idea what you are talking about.  I bench press 250 for 17.  Yeah, my butt is arched like a rainbow for at least half of those reps, but the fact that you call that weak just makes me wonder if you are delusional.  Most men don't hit that level of upper body strength with or without steroids.

The first two are an oversimplification.  But in a nutshell:

- Yes, Jewish influence is the primary reason why Whites are being replaced in Western society.  In 20 years, when you find yourself on an elevator as the only White man, and the only person speaking English, come back and tell me I'm wrong about White people being displaced.  And yes, Jews do have a prominent role in this.  It's not the "fault" of Jewish people, but go tell that to a Palestinian, and let me know what they say.

- Divorce rates are currently higher than they've been at any point in the past 50 years.  #MeToo feminism is a major liability, not "women".  But feminist brainwashing is so universal, it's literally impossible to meet a woman who isn't influenced by it.  If you want to get married and risk losing half your net worth in a divorce - go ahead.  Go move to a Black neighbourhood, and invite homeless people and refugees to come live with you too.  The hypocrisy in what you say is that you act like these aren't problems, while you're no doubt sheltered in some 99% White area because you know full well my concerns are legitimate, and you yourself share them.

- I guess that explains why Lakehead University has been sued successfully multiple times.

- All the politicians are in lockstep, and the global economy has currently taken a $10 TRILLION hit.  If current trends continue, the global economy will collapse in 18 months.  Politicians are largely responsible for this, given not one single one of them has the balls to say anything counter-narrative.  Ontario Premier Doug Ford weighs 330-lb, and he's threatening to cancel Christmas over COVID.  How about he can put the cheesecake down before dictating anything about health to me?

- I am 100% pro-USA.  The USA provides more military protection to Canada than Canada's own military.  My concern is that if civil unrest spreads across the USA, it will eventually spill over into Canada.  And if the USA can't [more likely, with Biden in charge - WON'T] take care of the civil unrest, what do you think will happen in Canada?  American politics generally impact me more as a Canadian than Canadian politics do.  The USA is our biggest trading partner, after all.  So yes, I have real reason to worry about the USA.

Lastly, you talk about COVID like the economic loss and fallout of all this won't impact you.  As if you are somehow above being impacted by a global economic crash.  If current deficit spending and other economic damage continues, we will ALL be impacted, and since "JUST TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE!!" has now proven to have no end in sight, I obviously have a reason to be concerned.

But as for your points about having a below average IQ, and being weak...this is objectively false.

You live in some strange world where bench pressing three plates for reps is weak.  I just find this baffling, but then I need to remind myself: you're lying.

I encourage you to enroll in Black Studies at the university nearest you, move to a Black or Hispanic neighbourhood, marry a feminist, invite as many homeless people and refugees to live with you as possible, wear a hazmat suit when you go out to buy eggs, and post videos of your 350+ bench press.

The average man is not as strong as me.  In terms of potential is another matter.  But objectively, the average man is not stronger than I am.  I just don't get why you're lying.

You’re encouraging me to enroll in Black Studies or move to a black or Latino neighborhood?

Did you miss the part where I said I work in all areas of Chicago?

Holy fuck your a weak, self-awareness lacking, semi-retarded manlet, who lays around all day in the fetal position crying about how Jewish people have ruined your miserable life.

You want some straight truth... you took steroids, trained for years, spent all your money on ripoff supplements and on your best day you got to my warm up poundages.

I wouldn’t waste a dose of any vaccine on saving your pathetic existence.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: AbrahamG on December 15, 2020, 09:36:29 PM
So, after all that, is Howard actually Jewish?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 10:00:17 PM
You’re encouraging me to enroll in Black Studies or move to a black or Latino neighborhood?

Did you miss the part where I said I work in all areas of Chicago?

Holy fuck your a weak, self-awareness lacking, semi-retarded manlet, who lays around all day in the fetal position crying about how Jewish people have ruined your miserable life.

You want some straight truth... you took steroids, trained for years, spent all your money on ripoff supplements and on your best day you got to my warm up poundages.

I wouldn’t waste a dose of any vaccine on saving your pathetic existence.

It just shocks me that you are one of the smartest guys on here, yet think some of those things.

Chicago is massive, but if you work in all areas of Chicago, including South Chicago, then you know that the average Fourth of July weekend has so many shootings that they basically break records.  We're literally talking like 87 shootings on some of those weekends.  Yeah, I'd say that is concerning.  And I think you agree with me, but won't admit to it.

Western civilization is importing the entire developing world.  It's not correct to say that the West is "importing third world immigrants" - we are IMPORTING THE THIRD WORLD.  Canada is importing 400,000 new people from the developing EACH YEAR, with no end in sight.  The USA sustained something like $3 billion in property damage this year alone because of Black guys getting shot, in some cases, after using lethal force against the police [Rayshard Brooks].  You talk like this isn't happening.  You're the one living in the USA - in CHICAGO, no less.  You literally live in one of the most violent cities in North America, and you're acting like I don't have a point, or that you disagree with me.

Look at what the "Defund the Police" movement brought to Minneapolis - a doubling in shootings, and a tripling in car-jackings:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9038865/Minneapolis-follows-threats-wipe-8million-police-department.html

Not to mention, police all over the USA are lining up to quit.  Yes, Walter - I'm SLIGHTLY concerned that this might escalate.

How can you live in Chicago, and not be concerned?  Does your entire state need to be on fire before you start caring?  Oh, I forgot - you're immune to the risks.  You're one of the smartest guys on here, and I just don't believe you're that naive.

Yes, I have trained for years, have dabbled in steroids, and used supplements - I don't think Getbig gives nearly enough credit to supplements.  If you read Getbig, we talk like supplements never work.  I'd say that they do work - just not as well as the exaggerated claims [MuscleTech - among others].

None of your points about me being small and an autistic manlet are wrong.  And if you lift more than I do - congratulations.  That almost for sure puts you in the top 1% of strongest men in the world based on any gym I've ever been to, in my life.  And if you lift more than me, and don't consider yourself to be in the top 1%, then I'd love to know what gym you train at, where more than 1% of members are bench pressing 350 or 400, or whatever it is you bench.

What I find strange about your posts is that I think you're partially lying.  Based on my videos, I meet your definition of weak?  Ok...how about for my size?  And you act like the issues I have with the insane Woke Mob, and all the BLM/SJW rioters are not concerns you share, and I find that hard to believe.  I think you're better at not worrying about libtards like I do, but I just don't believe you aren't concerned.  There has been more economic loss in 2020 than any year of my life.  Yet you act like it's a non-issue.

I think you have specific issues with me that are legit - posting too long, unwillingness to let things go, or having a sense of pride for my lifts that you don't believe are merited [in part because you think I've used more gear that I actually have].  But on matters of the Woke Mob, I think you agree with me, and you just won't admit it, because you don't want to give the impression I'm making a point there.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 10:11:11 PM
Matt once you use steroids it alters your muscle cells permanently so when you were your strongest, post steroids, it was in part due to steroids. No two ways about it.

Dave, could you tell me a little more about this, if you don't mind?  If you don't mind either replying here or PM'ing me about this if you think that's better, I would be grateful...are you saying that if I run a decent cycle in 2021 [I've ran very few "real" cycles in my life - only 2x 12-week cycles, in 2004 an 2005, and a third in 2006 that got cut off after eight weeks, due to pneumonia], that I could presumably keep some of those gains, even years later?

Say for instance if I ran a decent cycle - an actual good cycle, at least at the "moderate" level [500mg of Test, 250mg of EQ, kickstarted with Dbol, like the 2006 cycle that I ran that got cut off, where I got my biggest], if not slightly more gear than that, stuck it out, ramped up my calories, got adequate rest and everything else, and got my bench press to the 365 to 375 range...are you saying that I would have a better chance of maintaining a portion of that progress, even years later?  I get that once the muscle cell expands, the "memory" of that size is there, and you can retain it again with another cycle...I just never thought it possible to keep your gains if you stop completely.  Regaining your gear gains back with more gear, and keeping your gear gains while off for months or even years are two separate matters.

Because that was the one thing that always turned me off from gear.  I'd go on, make decent gains in a short period of time, but then gradually reduce back to my natural size in the 170's while off.  And I've ALWAYS hated that.

Just curious to hear your views on that...and if there is any way a person can maximize this benefit while using as little gear as possible.  Heck, I'm almost 40 now, and already have kids - I'm not opposed to using TRT in the years to come.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 10:16:20 PM
I believe that matt and wally r females, at this point – both strike me as dumb, attention whoring phaggots... more likely women tho - lesbos, at that, lol – they cant quit each other.

Matt – spare me the wall of text... I quite simply dont care that much and will not read it.

again, the both of u need jesus
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 10:20:06 PM
With that kind of enlightened thinking ,we'd still treat illness with blood letting , leaches and witch trials.

Hear! Hear!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 10:28:13 PM
So, after all that, is Howard actually Jewish?

He's Jewish.

Howard is Jewish.

Up until this year, I had concerns that weren't going to manifest until another decade or more.  My city in particular became a much more dangerous place to live ever since local drug dealer John Tsekouras was jailed, and the void left behind due to his incarceration was filled by Black gangs from Toronto and Ottawa.  The police in town went from finding one gun per month, to one gun per DAY.

For whatever issues are affecting the world right now, John Tsekouras being jailed is what made my own city much worse off.  My own personal safety, and the safety of my family and friends, is higher specifically because of that.

And as much as other things concerned me, nothing concerns me more right now than COVID, and the economic damage it is causing.  We're literally still in the greatest recession of all time, second only to The Great Depression.

Unless COVID is a bioweapon, it can't be "blamed" on anyone - you can't fault the Chinese for being poor and having to eat bats.  You CAN fault the moronic politicians who left borders with China open, and stuff like that.  And any other issue I ever had pales in comparison to my concerns about COVID.

And I'll admit it - I'm insecure about it.  It's giving me a lot of anxiety, it's making me worry about my future, and the safety of my children.  I'm worried - I'll say it.  I have no problem saying that.  And it seems like everyone who I talk to about this, just says "Don't worry about it."  If they say "Don't worry about what you can't control", then fine.  But most of them say it more like "Don't worry about it - I'm sure things will be fine."  And no - I'm just not buying that.

I don't mean to bitch, and I know I come across like I'm blaming others - but I am massively concerned about the economy, due to COVID.  I'm not worried about an RFID chip being injected into us through the COVID vaccine or something - I'm just worried that the economic damage this year alone can permeate for decades...and no one is really giving me a good reason to be optimistic about any of this.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 10:33:26 PM
bottom line – the world is fuked, and will only get worse.

there is not a damn thing that u can do about it... thats why I tell dudes to seek God

carry on, tho
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: AbrahamG on December 15, 2020, 10:38:59 PM
He's Jewish.

Howard is Jewish.

Up until this year, I had concerns that weren't going to manifest until another decade or more.  My city in particular became a much more dangerous place to live ever since local drug dealer John Tsekouras was jailed, and the void left behind due to his incarceration was filled by Black gangs from Toronto and Ottawa.  The police in town went from finding one gun per month, to one gun per DAY.

For whatever issues are affecting the world right now, John Tsekouras being jailed is what made my own city much worse off.  My own personal safety, and the safety of my family and friends, is higher specifically because of that.

And as much as other things concerned me, nothing concerns me more right now than COVID, and the economic damage it is causing.  We're literally still in the greatest recession of all time, second only to The Great Depression.

Unless COVID is a bioweapon, it can't be "blamed" on anyone - you can't fault the Chinese for being poor and having to eat bats.  You CAN fault the moronic politicians who left borders with China open, and stuff like that.  And any other issue I ever had pales in comparison to my concerns about COVID.

And I'll admit it - I'm insecure about it.  It's giving me a lot of anxiety, it's making me worry about my future, and the safety of my children.  I'm worried - I'll say it.  I have no problem saying that.  And it seems like everyone who I talk to about this, just says "Don't worry about it."  If they say "Don't worry about what you can't control", then fine.  But most of them say it more like "Don't worry about it - I'm sure things will be fine."  And no - I'm just not buying that.

I don't mean to bitch, and I know I come across like I'm blaming others - but I am massively concerned about the economy, due to COVID.  I'm not worried about an RFID chip being injected into us through the COVID vaccine or something - I'm just worried that the economic damage this year alone can permeate for decades...and no one is really giving me a good reason to be optimistic about any of this.

Brutal pivot.  But, it is your trademark.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 10:39:40 PM
I believe that matt and wally r females, at this point – both strike me as dumb, attention whoring phaggots... more likely women tho - lesbos, at that, lol – they cant quit each other.

Matt – spare me the wall of text... I quite simply dont care that much and will not read it.

again, the both of u need jesus

I agree with you about both of us needing Jesus, but I found your post to be somewhat un-Christian-like.

Hear! Hear!

Ok...

What part about not lining up to get a vaccine that's had eight months of development under its belt, that we know NOTHING of the long-term effects of, and that the pharmaceutical giant that developed it has been granted legal protection against any litigation over damages it may cause, all over a virus that I have a 99.99% chance of surviving seems irrational to you?

How about since you are in a higher risk-group for COVID, you get the vaccine, as well as a couple million more Americans [at a minimum], and I'll wait two years, read studies about issues the virus may cause, and then I'll decide whether or not to get it?

You and Howard [he's Jewish] and other Democrats are acting like this radical notion of being concerned about the safety of medicine is somehow problematic.  You are acting as if opposing a rushed COVID vaccine is the same as being opposed to the longstanding - and obviously beneficial - MMR vaccines, or that I am on par with Andrew Wakefield, and his faked research on the dangers of vaccines.

Exactly what issue do you have with being concerned about a vaccine that has no long-term data showing its safety?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 10:44:01 PM
I believe that matt and wally r females, at this point – both strike me as dumb, attention whoring phaggots... more likely women tho - lesbos, at that, lol – they cant quit each other.

Matt – spare me the wall of text... I quite simply dont care that much and will not read it.

again, the both of u need jesus

You and Walter are literally two of the smartest posters here, and that's why I'm so confused about some of your posts.  Not the part about seeking Jesus...I meant the part about Walter and I being lesbians.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 10:48:29 PM
I found your post to be somewhat un-Christian-like.

lol... probably.

trust me – I need Jesus more than anyone... and that is what being a Christian is all about.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 15, 2020, 10:53:02 PM
You and Walter are literally two of the smartest posters here, and that's why I'm so confused about some of your posts.  Not the part about seeking Jesus...I meant the part about Walter and I being lesbians.

u two exemplify the mind of a whore – a female intellect.

Its as plain as day.

good luck.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 15, 2020, 11:14:46 PM
u two exemplify the mind of a whore – a female intellect.

Its as plain as day.

good luck.

I'm shocked that you think this, given you are one of the smartest posters here.

I'm more concerned about your post showing the HIV inserts in Covid-19.  Yet if I ask the question "Was a natural bat coronavirus modified to include those HIV inserts?", I'm considered a conspiracy theorist.

Honestly, I don't know, and I don't claim to know.  That's why I'm ASKING.  When part of the Covid-19 genome includes code that is in HIV...that becomes a bit of a concern to me.

Also, stuff like this is becoming increasingly more frequent...and I just don't see any of this holding up.  Something is bound to give - because I don't see this social unrest being contained:

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2020, 11:31:47 PM

And as much as other things concerned me, nothing concerns me more right now than COVID, and the economic damage it is causing.  We're literally still in the greatest recession of all time, second only to The Great Depression.

Unless COVID is a bioweapon, it can't be "blamed" on anyone - you can't fault the Chinese for being poor and having to eat bats.  You CAN fault the moronic politicians who left borders with China open, and stuff like that.  And any other issue I ever had pales in comparison to my concerns about COVID.

And I'll admit it - I'm insecure about it.  It's giving me a lot of anxiety, it's making me worry about my future, and the safety of my children.  I'm worried - I'll say it.  I have no problem saying that.  And it seems like everyone who I talk to about this, just says "Don't worry about it."  If they say "Don't worry about what you can't control", then fine.  But most of them say it more like "Don't worry about it - I'm sure things will be fine."  And no - I'm just not buying that.

I don't mean to bitch , and I know I come across like I'm blaming others (yes you do) - but I am massively concerned about the economy, due to COVID.  I'm not worried about an RFID chip being injected into us through the COVID vaccine or something - I'm just worried that the economic damage this year alone can permeate for decades...and no one is really giving me a good reason to be optimistic about any of this.

In my opinion, we have only just begun to see the ill effects of the pandemic on the world economy. But take comfort, if you can. Most of us are in the same boat....economically speaking. If it sinks, we are all going to drown. You're a landlord. Is their a moratorium on evictions there as there is here? What concerns me is what happens once these moratoriums are lifted. If folks couldn't pay their rent on a regular monthly basis, what makes anyone think they will be able to pay back rent to catch up if the economy gets better?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 12:31:11 AM
In my opinion, we have only just begun to see the ill effects of the pandemic on the world economy. But take comfort, if you can. Most of us are in the same boat....economically speaking. If it sinks, we are all going to drown. You're a landlord. Is their a moratorium on evictions there as there is here? What concerns me is what happens once these moratoriums are lifted. If folks couldn't pay their rent on a regular monthly basis, what makes anyone think they will be able to pay back rent to catch up if the economy gets better?

That's about the only thing preventing me from lapsing into a depression that would literally not exist if not for COVID measures being taken both in Canada, and globally.

Yes, I've had some personal issues lately - the mother of my two oldest children got a job out-of-town last year, and now I only see my kids in person once a month, and the Facetime stuff and phone calls just aren't cutting it.  That's an issue.  My kids were my life, and they are still - but I miss them terribly.  I imagine you can relate with the tragic loss of your wife - and of course I understand that my kids are still alive, but seeing them once a month just isn't enough.  The Ontario government is encouraging people not to leave their cities/towns, and that just makes it that much more aggravating, knowing I could be pulled over, and have to explain to a police officer that I'm driving to visit my children, and then be given a fine that literally got implemented the day before - because the COVID restrictions change ALL THE TIME, and the impact its had on me is just made me sick of going out, not knowing what new rule I'll be violating this time, or what right I have that employees at businesses or even the police don't seem to grasp that citizens have, and to deal with potentially being arrested for simply existing.   The fact that ordinary citizens doing nothing wrong except for being out in public are being arrested should concern people, but most people - even those who are concerned - are just going along with this.  And I can't push back against this stuff alone.

The fact that the gym has been a big part of my life for years, and yet the sauna and hot tub is shut down, and the Ontario Ministry of Health keeps flipflopping on standards to put in place is putting extreme pressure on gym owners who would have more consistent laws to follow if they lived in Haiti - I'm worried that we may see serious damage to the gym industry, and possibly a raft of bankruptcies to follow.  Only with the inconsistent anti-COVID measures in place, and the long-time gym shutdown earlier this year, has it really sunk in how much my mental health is attached to my physical health, and it's not exactly pleasant to gather my steam, set to train for a 2021 strength contest, only to potentially find out on any given day that the gym will be closed again for months.

I find it hard to stay in the mindset of putting forth my best effort to achieve a goal, when the means by which I'm using to achieve that goal can be shut down at a moment's notice.

It's as you said - if the global economy sustains a terrible loss, we will all be impacted by this, and that depressing fact does offer some sort of weird peace of mind.

In your case, this is how I see it: you're bound to live to over 90 at your current health status and activity level, in addition to being close to family, living in a safe area, etc.  While you are technically in an "at-risk" age demographic from COVID, I would be willing to bet money that you would beat it if you got it.  So here you are - perfectly fine and healthy, and now have to consider the possibility that *maybe* you are one of the people in your age group who would suffer badly under COVID.  As I said, I don't personally think you are [quite the contrary], but it's just an annoying thing to have to contemplate, in addition to a potential global economic crash.  My grandmother is 10 years older than you, but I can tell you that she hasn't seen her grandchildren or even her children for almost a year now because of COVID.

At her age, what is there, other than family?  I can't even see my own grandmother because of this, although that saddens me more from her side.

Oh...and as usual I am a giant gasbag in this post, but to your questions regarding rental income:

As of earlier this year, Premier Doug Ford announced that there will be no rent increases allowed for landlords.  As if it isn't bad enough that rent increases in Ontario are already so tightly controlled that they barely match rates of inflation, Ford has set the 2021 rate in Ontario at 0% [freeze].  From there, if current deficit spending in Canada continues, it's only a matter of time before there are moratoriums in place on evictions.  It's already illegal to evict tenants in the winter in Ontario [due to inclement weather], and I can't rule out the possibility that potential permanent moratoriums on evictions will be put in place.

In my case, I have next to no debt on my properties, but what about landlords who do?  Will Doug Ford allow them to not pay he banks, or get extensions?  I doubt it.  And even for landlords who own their properties outright, they still have property taxes, and utilities to pay - they will still have to pay those bills even if they are not receiving rental income from tenants.

And that's what concerns me - this is a nightmare scenario that I would potentially be able to do nothing about.  Like you said - if things get that bad, we're all in this together, and that offers some reassurance...but this is just a very bleak future right now, and I see no signs of it getting better.

All in all, things are ok for me, Prime.  But I just can't get myself out of the mental rut of worrying about this - and it's not like there is no basis to my worries.

You seem more accepting and less pessimistic about this than me.  Good for you.  I hope that talking to people like you that I can eventually adopt your attitude.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 12:33:36 AM
^ Oh, FFS.

I think starting in the new year, I'm going to start posting on Getbig using a smartphone.  There is no way for me to keep posts short on here as long as I'm typing on a standard keyboard.  I just type way too fast for that.  It's not even that I'm typing for a long time, but when you type at 120 WPM, posts get very long, very fast.

Sincerely, I acknowledge my posts consistently being too long, and I intend to do something about it.  I'm making it a new year's resolution.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 16, 2020, 03:08:12 AM
^ Oh, FFS.

I think starting in the new year, I'm going to start posting on Getbig using a smartphone.  There is no way for me to keep posts short on here as long as I'm typing on a standard keyboard.  I just type way too fast for that.  It's not even that I'm typing for a long time, but when you type at 120 WPM, posts get very long, very fast.

Sincerely, I acknowledge my posts consistently being too long, and I intend to do something about it.  I'm making it a new year's resolution.
New Year's resolutions usually fail.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 03:21:53 AM
New Year's resolutions usually fail.

As will this one with certainty if I keep posting on Getbig from my laptop or computer.  But if I post from a smartphone, the small virtual keyboard will slow down my typing considerably.  I still type fast - as far as virtual keyboards go - but not nearly as fast as I do from a normal keyboard.

Plus, I find them annoying to type on, so I would not only be typing slower, but probably be so annoyed posting from a smartphone that I would spend only a minute typing, and hopefully all my posts would only be around this size.

I read over my long posts, and I don't think they lack for relevant or appropriate content...they are just too long, and have a way of sort of distracting from other posts on here.  So yeah...I agree that I should reduce post size, even if it means cutting out content that is not out of place.  This is a public forum after all - and I take board courtesies very seriously.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: King Shizzo on December 16, 2020, 03:31:55 AM
No it won't. The Flu vaccine isn't mandatory after all of these years. I have never taken the Flu vaccine, in my life. Knock on wood....I do not catch the "Dangerous Flu" either.

I was just discussing this with my parents the other day. There have been "required vaccinations" for children, in America for years.

Why?

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 03:53:17 AM
No it won't. The Flu vaccine isn't mandatory after all of these years. I have never taken the Flu vaccine, in my life. Knock on wood....I do not catch the "Dangerous Flu" either.

I was just discussing this with my parents the other day. There have been "required vaccinations" for children, in America for years.

Why?

Not sure on how required vaccinations work in the USA [or don't work], but regarding the COVID vaccine...if the news keeps telling people that COVID is some deadly plague, I think there will be heavy pressure to get everyone vaccinated.  Time will tell, I guess.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: POB on December 16, 2020, 04:07:06 AM
That's about the only thing preventing me from lapsing into a depression that would literally not exist if not for COVID measures being taken both in Canada, and globally.

Yes, I've had some personal issues lately - the mother of my two oldest children got a job out-of-town last year, and now I only see my kids in person once a month, and the Facetime stuff and phone calls just aren't cutting it.  That's an issue.  My kids were my life, and they are still - but I miss them terribly.  I imagine you can relate with the tragic loss of your wife - and of course I understand that my kids are still alive, but seeing them once a month just isn't enough.  The Ontario government is encouraging people not to leave their cities/towns, and that just makes it that much more aggravating, knowing I could be pulled over, and have to explain to a police officer that I'm driving to visit my children, and then be given a fine that literally got implemented the day before - because the COVID restrictions change ALL THE TIME, and the impact its had on me is just made me sick of going out, not knowing what new rule I'll be violating this time, or what right I have that employees at businesses or even the police don't seem to grasp that citizens have, and to deal with potentially being arrested for simply existing.   The fact that ordinary citizens doing nothing wrong except for being out in public are being arrested should concern people, but most people - even those who are concerned - are just going along with this.  And I can't push back against this stuff alone.

The fact that the gym has been a big part of my life for years, and yet the sauna and hot tub is shut down, and the Ontario Ministry of Health keeps flipflopping on standards to put in place is putting extreme pressure on gym owners who would have more consistent laws to follow if they lived in Haiti - I'm worried that we may see serious damage to the gym industry, and possibly a raft of bankruptcies to follow.  Only with the inconsistent anti-COVID measures in place, and the long-time gym shutdown earlier this year, has it really sunk in how much my mental health is attached to my physical health, and it's not exactly pleasant to gather my steam, set to train for a 2021 strength contest, only to potentially find out on any given day that the gym will be closed again for months.

I find it hard to stay in the mindset of putting forth my best effort to achieve a goal, when the means by which I'm using to achieve that goal can be shut down at a moment's notice.

It's as you said - if the global economy sustains a terrible loss, we will all be impacted by this, and that depressing fact does offer some sort of weird peace of mind.

In your case, this is how I see it: you're bound to live to over 90 at your current health status and activity level, in addition to being close to family, living in a safe area, etc.  While you are technically in an "at-risk" age demographic from COVID, I would be willing to bet money that you would beat it if you got it.  So here you are - perfectly fine and healthy, and now have to consider the possibility that *maybe* you are one of the people in your age group who would suffer badly under COVID.  As I said, I don't personally think you are [quite the contrary], but it's just an annoying thing to have to contemplate, in addition to a potential global economic crash.  My grandmother is 10 years older than you, but I can tell you that she hasn't seen her grandchildren or even her children for almost a year now because of COVID.

At her age, what is there, other than family?  I can't even see my own grandmother because of this, although that saddens me more from her side.

Oh...and as usual I am a giant gasbag in this post, but to your questions regarding rental income:

As of earlier this year, Premier Doug Ford announced that there will be no rent increases allowed for landlords.  As if it isn't bad enough that rent increases in Ontario are already so tightly controlled that they barely match rates of inflation, Ford has set the 2021 rate in Ontario at 0% [freeze].  From there, if current deficit spending in Canada continues, it's only a matter of time before there are moratoriums in place on evictions.  It's already illegal to evict tenants in the winter in Ontario [due to inclement weather], and I can't rule out the possibility that potential permanent moratoriums on evictions will be put in place.

In my case, I have next to no debt on my properties, but what about landlords who do?  Will Doug Ford allow them to not pay he banks, or get extensions?  I doubt it.  And even for landlords who own their properties outright, they still have property taxes, and utilities to pay - they will still have to pay those bills even if they are not receiving rental income from tenants.

And that's what concerns me - this is a nightmare scenario that I would potentially be able to do nothing about.  Like you said - if things get that bad, we're all in this together, and that offers some reassurance...but this is just a very bleak future right now, and I see no signs of it getting better.

All in all, things are ok for me, Prime.  But I just can't get myself out of the mental rut of worrying about this - and it's not like there is no basis to my worries.

You seem more accepting and less pessimistic about this than me.  Good for you.  I hope that talking to people like you that I can eventually adopt your attitude.
Bro think positive, there is light at the end of the tunnel the pandemic is half over the last 2 ~1920,~1969 both lasted 2 years with out a vaccine. I think by summer we are looking more normal and by Christmas next year no masks and this thing will behind us . As for these governments over reaching with their powers not allowing people to work or travel F-them that’s a whole other topic for another time. Just remember when it time to vote
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Tapeworm on December 16, 2020, 04:25:22 AM
That's about the only thing preventing me from lapsing into a depression that would literally not exist if not for COVID measures being taken both in Canada, and globally.

Yes, I've had some personal issues lately - the mother of my two oldest children got a job out-of-town last year, and now I only see my kids in person once a month, and the Facetime stuff and phone calls just aren't cutting it.  That's an issue.  My kids were my life, and they are still - but I miss them terribly.  I imagine you can relate with the tragic loss of your wife - and of course I understand that my kids are still alive, but seeing them once a month just isn't enough.  The Ontario government is encouraging people not to leave their cities/towns, and that just makes it that much more aggravating, knowing I could be pulled over, and have to explain to a police officer that I'm driving to visit my children, and then be given a fine that literally got implemented the day before - because the COVID restrictions change ALL THE TIME, and the impact its had on me is just made me sick of going out, not knowing what new rule I'll be violating this time, or what right I have that employees at businesses or even the police don't seem to grasp that citizens have, and to deal with potentially being arrested for simply existing.   The fact that ordinary citizens doing nothing wrong except for being out in public are being arrested should concern people, but most people - even those who are concerned - are just going along with this.  And I can't push back against this stuff alone.

The fact that the gym has been a big part of my life for years, and yet the sauna and hot tub is shut down, and the Ontario Ministry of Health keeps flipflopping on standards to put in place is putting extreme pressure on gym owners who would have more consistent laws to follow if they lived in Haiti - I'm worried that we may see serious damage to the gym industry, and possibly a raft of bankruptcies to follow.  Only with the inconsistent anti-COVID measures in place, and the long-time gym shutdown earlier this year, has it really sunk in how much my mental health is attached to my physical health, and it's not exactly pleasant to gather my steam, set to train for a 2021 strength contest, only to potentially find out on any given day that the gym will be closed again for months.

I find it hard to stay in the mindset of putting forth my best effort to achieve a goal, when the means by which I'm using to achieve that goal can be shut down at a moment's notice.

It's as you said - if the global economy sustains a terrible loss, we will all be impacted by this, and that depressing fact does offer some sort of weird peace of mind.

In your case, this is how I see it: you're bound to live to over 90 at your current health status and activity level, in addition to being close to family, living in a safe area, etc.  While you are technically in an "at-risk" age demographic from COVID, I would be willing to bet money that you would beat it if you got it.  So here you are - perfectly fine and healthy, and now have to consider the possibility that *maybe* you are one of the people in your age group who would suffer badly under COVID.  As I said, I don't personally think you are [quite the contrary], but it's just an annoying thing to have to contemplate, in addition to a potential global economic crash.  My grandmother is 10 years older than you, but I can tell you that she hasn't seen her grandchildren or even her children for almost a year now because of COVID.

At her age, what is there, other than family?  I can't even see my own grandmother because of this, although that saddens me more from her side.

Oh...and as usual I am a giant gasbag in this post, but to your questions regarding rental income:

As of earlier this year, Premier Doug Ford announced that there will be no rent increases allowed for landlords.  As if it isn't bad enough that rent increases in Ontario are already so tightly controlled that they barely match rates of inflation, Ford has set the 2021 rate in Ontario at 0% [freeze].  From there, if current deficit spending in Canada continues, it's only a matter of time before there are moratoriums in place on evictions.  It's already illegal to evict tenants in the winter in Ontario [due to inclement weather], and I can't rule out the possibility that potential permanent moratoriums on evictions will be put in place.

In my case, I have next to no debt on my properties, but what about landlords who do?  Will Doug Ford allow them to not pay he banks, or get extensions?  I doubt it.  And even for landlords who own their properties outright, they still have property taxes, and utilities to pay - they will still have to pay those bills even if they are not receiving rental income from tenants.

And that's what concerns me - this is a nightmare scenario that I would potentially be able to do nothing about.  Like you said - if things get that bad, we're all in this together, and that offers some reassurance...but this is just a very bleak future right now, and I see no signs of it getting better.

All in all, things are ok for me, Prime.  But I just can't get myself out of the mental rut of worrying about this - and it's not like there is no basis to my worries.

You seem more accepting and less pessimistic about this than me.  Good for you.  I hope that talking to people like you that I can eventually adopt your attitude.

Just make sure your insurance is up to date. Renters are really careless sometimes, especially when they can't get evicted. I guess you can keep asking them for the rent. If they get mad and damage the place, or even burn it down, at least you'll be covered, right?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Pasita on December 16, 2020, 04:49:17 AM
If we are talking about travel, then yes, vaccines should become mandatory because our immunity is not prepared for diseases that are common in other countries, why put ourselves in danger?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 04:53:29 AM
Bro think positive, there is light at the end of the tunnel the pandemic is half over the last 2 ~1920,~1969 both lasted 2 years with out a vaccine. I think by summer we are looking more normal and by Christmas next year no masks and this thing will behind us . As for these governments over reaching with their powers not allowing people to work or travel F-them that’s a whole other topic for another time. Just remember when it time to vote

I hope you're right.  In Ontario, our "Conservative" premier [provincial leader] is toeing the line of the federal Liberal Party to the letter.

I'm not seeing any politicians anywhere who aren't in lockstep with the COVID narrative.  I think epic is back said that Florida is back to normal.  If that's true, that's a good sign.  Hopefully one state or country will ignore COVID propaganda, stay open, and others will follow as they start going bankrupt.

Crossing fingers here.  I hope you're right.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: King Shizzo on December 16, 2020, 04:56:08 AM
If we are talking about travel, then yes, vaccines should become mandatory because our immunity is not prepared for diseases that are common in other countries, why put ourselves in danger?
Not in my opinion. If it's free, then maybe, but airlines are already charging money for a test. And then all of the designer masks that they come up with....
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 04:57:32 AM
Bro think positive, there is light at the end of the tunnel the pandemic is half over the last 2 ~1920,~1969 both lasted 2 years with out a vaccine. I think by summer we are looking more normal and by Christmas next year no masks and this thing will behind us . As for these governments over reaching with their powers not allowing people to work or travel F-them that’s a whole other topic for another time. Just remember when it time to vote

That's true.  As I see it, if current economic loss continues for 18 months, that's about when I'll stop getting paid - then I'll be able to go another 18 months before the situation starts to become very uncomfortable.

So I have a few years for things to resolve themselves before I'm SOL.  The only thing keeping me so pessimistic, is because it's been almost a year of this nonsense, and there's no sign of anything going back to normal.  I honestly think some global elites want to see just how far they can push global communism without pushback - and if there is no pushback, I think they actually will keep pushing until they get global communism.

I'm not saying they will succeed - but I honestly think some major financial players are trying to see how far they can get away with this until people rise up.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 16, 2020, 05:00:46 AM
If we are talking about travel, then yes, vaccines should become mandatory because our immunity is not prepared for diseases that are common in other countries, why put ourselves in danger?

Welcome to Getbig.

As far as international travel is concerned, I think individual countries should have every right to decide who enters their country, and what their medical status is.

Frankly, if the USA doesn't want to let me in because they want a "NO MANLET" policy...that should be their choice and their right.

As for forcing vaccines on their own citizens...if COVID was a deadly plague, I might consider that necessary.  But given the huge survival rate, I don't think forcing a rushed vaccine on millions of people is in any way ethical.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Walter Sobchak on December 16, 2020, 08:18:08 AM
I believe that matt and wally r females, at this point – both strike me as dumb, attention whoring phaggots... more likely women tho - lesbos, at that, lol – they cant quit each other.

Matt – spare me the wall of text... I quite simply dont care that much and will not read it.

again, the both of u need jesus

Lame.

Go hang off someone else’s balls to get the attention you crave.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 16, 2020, 08:58:28 AM
Bro think positive, there is light at the end of the tunnel the pandemic is half over the last 2 ~1920,~1969 both lasted 2 years with out a vaccine. I think by summer we are looking more normal and by Christmas next year no masks and this thing will behind us . As for these governments over reaching with their powers not allowing people to work or travel F-them that’s a whole other topic for another time. Just remember when it time to vote
How is voting in 2 years going to matter?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 16, 2020, 07:47:32 PM
Go hang off someone else’s balls to get the attention you crave.

I believe that u do not in fact possess 'balls':

u exemplify the mind of a whore – a female intellect.

Its as plain as day.

tho if I had to form some sort of 'god squad'... I would choose u, matt and shizzo.

I would weaponize that trifecta of tard, creating a lethally motivated, unstoppable (now godly) alliance of rightly focused former time wasters... who I believe could evangelize the entire earth inside of 7 days.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 17, 2020, 09:43:19 PM
SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome

'SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed'

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1 (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1)
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Matt on December 17, 2020, 09:45:36 PM
SARS-CoV-2 RNA reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome

'SARS-CoV-2 RNAs can be reverse transcribed in human cells by reverse transcriptase (RT) from LINE-1 elements or by HIV-1 RT, and that these DNA sequences can be integrated into the cell genome and subsequently be transcribed'

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1 (https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.12.422516v1)

Big Z - your views on this?:

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: AbrahamG on December 17, 2020, 09:57:52 PM
Big Z - your views on this?:



I'm not watching this as I am too tired but from the still screen I'd say YES.  Would hit.  Great tits on this pig.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 17, 2020, 10:25:21 PM
your views on this?

'that virus is controlling us, we're not controlling the virus'

lockdown... lol

u r observing the type of illogical, mocking, condescending and sinister theatre... the likes of which can only b perpetrated upon a dumb, terrified, and surely doomed populace.

in short - u r fuked.

again... good luck.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2020, 10:38:31 PM
That's about the only thing preventing me from lapsing into a depression that would literally not exist if not for COVID measures being taken both in Canada, and globally.

All in all, things are ok for me, Prime.  But I just can't get myself out of the mental rut of worrying about this - and it's not like there is no basis to my worries.

You seem more accepting and less pessimistic about this than me.  Good for you.  I hope that talking to people like you that I can eventually adopt your attitude.

Matt, I am not going to reply to the more personal aspects of your heartfelt and truthful response to me on a thread in Getbig because it seems more like this should be a private conversation between you and I. I will however, send you a PM. You make several valid points and express yourself more honestly than I've seen you do in a very long time. if ever. Bravo! And I mean this in the best way possible.

It is clear that this pandemic has altered the lives of many of us, if not all of us to some degree. Old as I am, I have never been through anything like this, so it is pretty sure you younger folks haven't either unless you come from a third world country.

I don't know that I am less pessimistic than you are about the possibility of a lot of bad shit coming down the pike.....some of it already is, as you've noted. Take a deep breath and try to remind yourself that there are some things over which we have no control and worrying about them until it makes us sick will not fix anything or even make it a little better.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: loco on December 18, 2020, 03:01:26 AM
Watch before it's taken down

Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: pellius on December 18, 2020, 06:49:15 PM
Watch before it's taken down



You think this is rare? I passed out once when I was 22 years old after getting a shot of 200mg of Deca (not my first shot) by a nurse in a doctor's office.

I also passed out the first time I gave blood. I must have been in my early 30s.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: AbrahamG on December 18, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
You think this is rare? I passed out once when I was 22 years old after getting a shot of 200mg of Deca (not my first shot) by a nurse in a doctor's office.

I also passed out the first time I gave blood. I must have been in my early 30s.

LOL.  I feinted as a 3 or 4 year old watching my sister get vaccinated. 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 18, 2020, 07:41:38 PM
That's true.  As I see it, if current economic loss continues for 18 months, that's about when I'll stop getting paid - then I'll be able to go another 18 months before the situation starts to become very uncomfortable.

So I have a few years for things to resolve themselves before I'm SOL.  The only thing keeping me so pessimistic, is because it's been almost a year of this nonsense, and there's no sign of anything going back to normal.  I honestly think some global elites want to see just how far they can push global communism without pushback - and if there is no pushback, I think they actually will keep pushing until they get global communism.

I'm not saying they will succeed - but I honestly think some major financial players are trying to see how far they can get away with this until people rise up.

Biden becoming president is the worst possible economic scenario. We will see what happens. If Biden is inaugurated in January there will be no economic recovery for the US or Canada.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 18, 2020, 07:47:42 PM
I once passed out at a circus when an elephant stepped on my foot so I can relate.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 19, 2020, 12:15:45 AM
Watch before it's taken down



OMG!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Methyl m1ke on December 19, 2020, 12:27:02 AM
OMG!

Haha that was exactly my reaction. At the exact same moment I realized why Twitter Facebook etc reserve the right to remove Content at their discretion. Ugly when used with political bias yet this video clearly shows how something benign could snowball into a much much bigger problem.

Free speech is rightfully never truly free.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: G_Thang on December 19, 2020, 12:38:29 AM


Fake Fucboi injections.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 20, 2020, 09:55:35 PM
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Zillotch on December 20, 2020, 10:51:51 PM
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Dave D on December 25, 2022, 07:34:13 PM
Well that’s a good question, I’m def not a know it all, or here trying to aggravate. Me personally I’ve been liquidating all my stuff for a min. Plan to move out on some of my property and self sustain as best I can. I hope I am all wrong, but the writing on the wall seems to me that the elite/WEF are having their way and crashing all economies worldwide through covid/great reset. Look up Diem, it was Libra, Zuckerburg being one of the founders, all the major players are tied into it and it’s their one world currency plan, I almost think you have to be crazy not to see the writing on the wall. I get gold and silvers physical value and it may still hold strong if you fall in line for the vaccine, no vaccine and it will be worthless to those owning it as they are not going to be allowed to participate in society if that makes sense and don’t for one minute think non Vaxxers are going to be able to trade with vaxxers in a black market type situation, instead they will RAT us out. Sound far fetched?

You laid out your plans to live off the grid but no mention of working for Pfizer. Why?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Chubz on December 25, 2022, 08:54:56 PM
What would it matter? I left there for what I believed and thought this was. Things were coming to me fast as I was doing my own research to understand this. If you were intellectually LAZY, that is on you. Bottom line is I worked for Pfizer and left when I felt I could no longer morally be a part of this. It seems you are thinking I had secret inside knowledge and should have been sounding the alarms, I was doing it to my family and coworkers, who all think I am crazy. If you are upset with me because you didn't take time to do the same research that I did ON MY OWN, well sorry bro.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Dave D on December 25, 2022, 10:42:12 PM
What would it matter? I left there for what I believed and thought this was. Things were coming to me fast as I was doing my own research to understand this. If you were intellectually LAZY, that is on you. Bottom line is I worked for Pfizer and left when I felt I could no longer morally be a part of this. It seems you are thinking I had secret inside knowledge and should have been sounding the alarms, I was doing it to my family and coworkers, who all think I am crazy. If you are upset with me because you didn't take time to do the same research that I did ON MY OWN, well sorry bro.

You don’t owe us anything.

It only matters because you flamed the Scott for taking a vaccine saying he knew better. You said you knew better because and you worked for Pfizer. You pointed this out when you said you left your job.

Good for you for taking a stand. I think many here have but you sounded like a clown for attacking The Scott who is old and disabled and was doing what he thought was going to protect himself.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ROBOAK on December 26, 2022, 12:12:53 AM
You don’t owe us anything.

It only matters because you flamed the Scott for taking a vaccine saying he knew better. You said you knew better because and you worked for Pfizer. You pointed this out when you said you left your job.

Good for you for taking a stand. I think many here have but you sounded like a clown for attacking The Scott who is old and disabled and was doing what he thought was going to protect himself.
any one and every one should be shamed for taking the clot shot, those tards are dooming  us all
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 26, 2022, 12:33:25 AM
any one and every one should be shamed for taking the clot shot, those tards are dooming  us all
How so?
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: ROBOAK on December 26, 2022, 12:36:24 AM
How so?
by enabling  operation lockstep,  hook,line and sinker
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: IroNat on December 26, 2022, 10:25:30 AM
You are all weak.
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: The Scott on December 26, 2022, 12:24:56 PM
You don’t owe us anything.

It only matters because you flamed the Scott for taking a vaccine saying he knew better. You said you knew better because and you worked for Pfizer. You pointed this out when you said you left your job.

Good for you for taking a stand. I think many here have but you sounded like a clown for attacking The Scott who is old and disabled and was doing what he thought was going to protect himself.

I could NOT get a waiver from any medical doctor.  I was going to lose my job because the fuckstick Mr. Biden played Nero (often thought to be the anti-Christ back then).  If I lose my job I have let my family down and we lose everything.  I suppose that Chubz didn't understand that.  If I could have gotten a waiver I would have.  Even though I have had clots before from surgery not a single provider would give me a waiver.   I am a seasoned citizen and yes, I am physically disabled from an accident at a job site that was deemed to have been directly caused by an OSHA violation.  No, I did not sue as I was not raised that way by my parents.

If Chubz didn't/doesn't mind giving up all that he did on what appears to me to be more  based on his feelings than hard proof, I  have no problem with that.  I must support my family.   
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 26, 2022, 05:21:35 PM
I could NOT get a waiver from any medical doctor.  I was going to lose my job because the fuckstick Mr. Biden played Nero (often thought to be the anti-Christ back then).  If I lose my job I have let my family down and we lose everything.  I suppose that Chubz didn't understand that.  If I could have gotten a waiver I would have.  Even though I have had clots before from surgery not a single provider would give me a waiver.   I am a seasoned citizen and yes, I am physically disabled from an accident at a job site that was deemed to have been directly caused by an OSHA violation.  No, I did not sue as I was not raised that way by my parents.

If Chubz didn't/doesn't mind giving up all that he did on what appears to me to be more  based on his feelings than hard proof, I  have no problem with that.  I must support my family.

Just so you know, I absolutely abhor frivolous, retaliatory, and phony lawsuits. Having said that, becoming permanently disabled or partially disabled because of your employer's negligence and an OSHA violation is a valid reason to sue IMO.

Frankly, I am surprised OSHA didn't levy fine on your employer.

You were eligible for representation by a Worker's Compensation attorney at no cost to you and your income appropriately covered by worker's comp: "The amount of your weekly permanent disability payments equals two-thirds of your average weekly wage at the time of your injury, limited by the minimum and maximum rates stated by the California Labor Code. You are eligible for permanent disability benefits if you have not made a complete recovery from your work-related injury/illness once your condition has stabilized."

Note that income from worker's comp is non-taxable so 2/3 is usually close to your regular take home pay.

Unfortunately, there is a statute of limitations for worker's comp claims of one year (California law). This is either from the time of the injury or the time of last payment.

If your parents taught you there is never a basis for a lawsuit, they were wrong and did you an injustice.

Sadly, is it often the very folks who most deserve compensation for something like a workplace accident who don’t/won't ask for it.  And sometimes it is those who do go after it and are even awarded it, who do not deserve it. 

 
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: The Scott on December 26, 2022, 05:56:10 PM
Just so you know, I absolutely abhor frivolous, retaliatory, and phony lawsuits. Having said that, becoming permanently disabled or partially disabled because of your employer's negligence and an OSHA violation is a valid reason to sue IMO.

Frankly, I am surprised OSHA didn't levy fine on your employer.

You were eligible for representation by a Worker's Compensation attorney at no cost to you and your income appropriately covered by worker's comp: "The amount of your weekly permanent disability payments equals two-thirds of your average weekly wage at the time of your injury, limited by the minimum and maximum rates stated by the California Labor Code. You are eligible for permanent disability benefits if you have not made a complete recovery from your work-related injury/illness once your condition has stabilized."

Note that income from worker's comp is non-taxable so 2/3 is usually close to your regular take home pay.

Unfortunately, there is a statute of limitations for worker's comp claims of one year (California law). This is either from the time of the injury or the time of last payment.

If your parents taught you there is never a basis for a lawsuit, they were wrong and did you an injustice.

Sadly, is it often the very folks who most deserve compensation for something like a workplace accident who don’t/won't ask for it.  And sometimes it is those who do go after it and are even awarded it, who do not deserve it. 

 

It was a construction site and I think the builder did get into trouble and the problem that resulted in me being permanently  (at least so far after more than a decade) handicapable was fixed.  I am just glad that no one else was harmed.  As is the case with my congenital condition, I was pretty much unaware that I had torn all of the muscles/tendons from my leg.  There are people far worse off than I.

In some ways, you and I are not so different but that is true of most people here on earth, we just tend to sometimes differ on that which is important to us.  ;D Be well, brother!
Title: Re: I have a feeling the vaccine will be basically mandatory
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2022, 02:59:48 PM
It was a construction site and I think the builder did get into trouble and the problem that resulted in me being permanently  (at least so far after more than a decade) handicapable was fixed.  I am just glad that no one else was harmed.  As is the case with my congenital condition, I was pretty much unaware that I had torn all of the muscles/tendons from my leg.  There are people far worse off than I.

In some ways, you and I are not so different but that is true of most people here on earth, we just tend to sometimes differ on that which is important to us.  ;D Be well, brother!

During the almost 30 years I worked for the school district, I was 'Chapter President' for around 1,200 Classified employees which is the same thing as being shop steward. There were many times when I would represent someone who got hurt on the job and they didn't report it for fear of retaliation. Sometimes, they would report the injury after too much time passed, making it difficult to prove how it happened. There were also times when an injury was faked, or the employee was 'milking it' for as long as possible. People who take advantage of the system ruin it for those who have legitimate claims because employers and workers comp reps begin to approach every claim as being bogus.

This is how it is with many things in life. One bad apple spoils the whole bushel.