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Title: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: eliscominblue on June 16, 2007, 04:05:22 PM
This is a real joke imo.  How could this refugee win a pro show?  I've lost interest in the IFBB's smaller shows....
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/p251.jpg)

WTF?
Title: Kai Greene
Post by: christinafitness on June 16, 2007, 04:33:32 PM
He was the simply the best at that show.
He also won the TEAM UNIVERSE twice and won the best posing award at the Colorado Pro.
And he does not have a GH gut like Dennis James who is the real "Monster Disgrace"
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: SteelePegasus on June 16, 2007, 04:33:48 PM
The man upped the dosage and trained with Milos..don't hate..congratulate
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Karl Kox on June 16, 2007, 04:33:58 PM
This is a real joke imo.  How could this refugee win a pro show?  I've lost interest in the IFBB's smaller shows....
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/p251.jpg)

WTF?

looks damn good to me
Title: Re: Kai Greene
Post by: tweeter on June 16, 2007, 04:35:26 PM
He was the simply the best at that show.
He also won the TEAM UNIVERSE twice and won the best posing award at the Colorado Pro.
And he does not have a GH gut like Dennis James who is the real "Monster Disgrace"
DJ's gut at that show was probably the worst I have ever seen on a bodybuilder.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: SWOLETRAIN on June 16, 2007, 04:39:20 PM
start by pointing out his flaws (physique wise). You definatly cant knock him on his posing, that routine he did to dirty diana was awesome. Face it brother, Kai greene is commin up. Dude looks great. Hopefully he has room for some more mass.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: timfogarty on June 16, 2007, 05:19:13 PM
he has the type of physique that I think should be winning shows.  but I wish it was someone with less personal baggage.

rumors of being gay no longer seem to be an issue.  and we all complained of Rusty Jeffers' 8th place finish in the Pro Masters because of his Colt Magazine background.  So what's the difference?  Why did the judges score Rusty down, but not Kai?   

Rusty has been in many issues of Colt over the last 15 years, so it was likely that most of the judges knew who he was.  Rusty is a gay icon.  Some of his photos would be instantly recognizable by most gay men.  He's the ultimate Marlborough Man.  He's straight, married, but very friendly and approachable at gay events.  There have never been any rumors of escorting.   He's done a few solo videos, but none with inanimate objects. 

Kai's porn has all been on the internet.  Perhaps in his early shows judges had no idea who he was, but that's pretty unlikely at Colorado.   Kai is flamboyant in his performances, both at bodybuilding shows and as a stripper/gogo boy.  (know your audience Kai.  fur at a leather bar?)   Kai is...let's call it androgenous.  Kai also had ads in the back of NYC bar rags in 2000 or so.

So when both have done nude pics and j/o videos, why is Rusty ok but not Kai?  Kai's flamboyance?  or just that grapefruit?
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: Prof Moriarty on June 16, 2007, 05:21:45 PM
he has the type of physique that I think should be winning shows.  but I wish it was someone with less personal baggage.

rumors of being gay no longer seem to be an issue.  and we all complained of Rusty Jeffers' 8th place finish in the Pro Masters because of his Colt Magazine background.  So what's the difference?  Why did the judges score Rusty down, but not Kai?   

Rusty has been in many issues of Colt over the last 15 years, so it was likely that most of the judges knew who he was.  Rusty is a gay icon.  Some of his photos would be instantly recognizable by most gay men.  He's the ultimate Marlborough Man.  He's straight, married, but very friendly and approachable at gay events.  There have never been any rumors of escorting.   He's done a few solo videos, but none with inanimate objects. 

Kai's porn has all been on the internet.  Perhaps in his early shows judges had no idea who he was, but that's pretty unlikely at Colorado.   Kai is flamboyant in his performances, both at bodybuilding shows and as a stripper/gogo boy.  (know your audience Kai.  fur at a leather bar?)   Kai is...let's call it androgenous.  Kai also had ads in the back of NYC bar rags in 2000 or so.

So when both have done nude pics and j/o videos, why is Rusty ok but not Kai?  Kai's flamboyance?  or just that grapefruit?

brutal knowing wayyyyy too much about the gay porn subculture
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: corinth on June 16, 2007, 05:28:22 PM
he has the type of physique that I think should be winning shows.  but I wish it was someone with less personal baggage.

rumors of being gay no longer seem to be an issue.  and we all complained of Rusty Jeffers' 8th place finish in the Pro Masters because of his Colt Magazine background.  So what's the difference?  Why did the judges score Rusty down, but not Kai?   

Rusty has been in many issues of Colt over the last 15 years, so it was likely that most of the judges knew who he was.  Rusty is a gay icon.  Some of his photos would be instantly recognizable by most gay men.  He's the ultimate Marlborough Man.  He's straight, married, but very friendly and approachable at gay events.  There have never been any rumors of escorting.   He's done a few solo videos, but none with inanimate objects. 

Kai's porn has all been on the internet.  Perhaps in his early shows judges had no idea who he was, but that's pretty unlikely at Colorado.   Kai is flamboyant in his performances, both at bodybuilding shows and as a stripper/gogo boy.  (know your audience Kai.  fur at a leather bar?)   Kai is...let's call it androgenous.  Kai also had ads in the back of NYC bar rags in 2000 or so.

So when both have done nude pics and j/o videos, why is Rusty ok but not Kai?  Kai's flamboyance?  or just that grapefruit?

dude, you've spent way too much time thinking about this
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: bigdumbbell on June 16, 2007, 05:34:51 PM
Honesly I dunno what the appeal of this guy is: no chest. no lats. no delts. big space between his bis and forearms (no brachii - I think that's the name of the muscle on your forearm)....maybe it's just cuz you all are truly closet homos and like the fact that he gets it on video for guys for money...???
sure, maybe if he was a female schmoe wrestler you'd stand it better eh? :D
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: eliscominblue on June 16, 2007, 06:24:16 PM
why does a guy like Troy Alves get passed over by judges show after show?.....is Kai better then Troy?  Is Kai's win the signal that judges are changing what body type wins shows?  IMO Rockel should have won the Colorado...I think it was close but total package was Rockel IMO.  Yes, Kai was in shape and has some real strengths........but what do I know?  I'm not hatin, but the nose ring is lame, take it out for the show.....he looks like he's geared up to be an entertainer, not a champion.  He does have good legs (calves too) but overall not in the same class as Rockel, Darrem and Silvio.
-my two cents

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Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 16, 2007, 06:33:30 PM
How could this refugee win a pro show?  I've lost interest in the IFBB's smaller shows....




Simple answer...   who do you think go to pro shows?  That's right, fags.  ::)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: eliscominblue on June 16, 2007, 06:35:06 PM
Well, you said it not me.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Karl Kox on June 19, 2007, 04:36:11 PM
I must say Troy looks better then Green in those pics
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: The Squadfather on June 19, 2007, 04:37:17 PM
those biceps look awful fishy to me.  :-X
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: HowieW on June 19, 2007, 04:41:12 PM
Honesly I dunno what the appeal of this guy is: no chest. no lats. no delts. big space between his bis and forearms (no brachii - I think that's the name of the muscle on your forearm)....maybe it's just cuz you all are truly closet homos and like the fact that he gets it on video for guys for money...???

Give me a break  ::) The man has a world class physique and incredible stage presence.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Andre Nickatina on June 19, 2007, 04:55:35 PM
You can't judge by shitty pictures alone. He looked better than everyone else on the webcast.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: Rich2 on June 19, 2007, 05:07:23 PM
why does a guy like Troy Alves get passed over by judges show after show?.....is Kai better then Troy?  Is Kai's win the signal that judges are changing what body type wins shows?  IMO Rockel should have won the Colorado...I think it was close but total package was Rockel IMO.  Yes, Kai was in shape and has some real strengths........but what do I know?  I'm not hatin, but the nose ring is lame, take it out for the show.....he looks like he's geared up to be an entertainer, not a champion.  He does have good legs (calves too) but overall not in the same class as Rockel, Darrem and Silvio.
-my two cents

you compare him to Troy, but the last time Troy looked his best was the 2005 Ironman.  and Kai has much better legs too, not to take anything away from him b/c i'm a fan of Troy too.  as far as Darrem is concerned, he's overrated and Kai killed him at his own specialty (performance).  and Silvio has shape, but not the detail and polish that kai has.  i like Rockel tho, if he won i wouldn't complain.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: eliscominblue on June 20, 2007, 07:18:34 PM
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/05.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/10.jpg)

Troy has legs that match his upper body.  Kai has no chest, crappy traps and quads that over power his upper body.  IMO Troy has the better shape and balance.  I agree that Kai is a great showman......but there is too much missing IMO from a purely aesthetic standpoint.

Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: Chick on June 20, 2007, 07:46:12 PM
he has the type of physique that I think should be winning shows.  but I wish it was someone with less personal baggage.

rumors of being gay no longer seem to be an issue.  and we all complained of Rusty Jeffers' 8th place finish in the Pro Masters because of his Colt Magazine background.  So what's the difference?  Why did the judges score Rusty down, but not Kai?   

Rusty has been in many issues of Colt over the last 15 years, so it was likely that most of the judges knew who he was.  Rusty is a gay icon.  Some of his photos would be instantly recognizable by most gay men.  He's the ultimate Marlborough Man.  He's straight, married, but very friendly and approachable at gay events.  There have never been any rumors of escorting.   He's done a few solo videos, but none with inanimate objects. 

Kai's porn has all been on the internet.  Perhaps in his early shows judges had no idea who he was, but that's pretty unlikely at Colorado.   Kai is flamboyant in his performances, both at bodybuilding shows and as a stripper/gogo boy.  (know your audience Kai.  fur at a leather bar?)   Kai is...let's call it androgenous.  Kai also had ads in the back of NYC bar rags in 2000 or so.

So when both have done nude pics and j/o videos, why is Rusty ok but not Kai?  Kai's flamboyance?  or just that grapefruit?

You just answered your own question...why indeed?

Because there has never been an issue with Rusty and anything he has done in regards to Colt mag, etc......If they wanted to hold something against him....he never would have earned his pro card in the first place.

He placed where he did because he was soft...nothing more, nothing less....just as he was placed lower in he NPC in numerous USA/ Nats....when he showed up in shape, he was rewarded in kind (2nd/ Nationals)...
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: timfogarty on June 20, 2007, 09:51:54 PM
Because there has never been an issue with Rusty and anything he has done in regards to Colt mag, etc......If they wanted to hold something against him....he never would have earned his pro card in the first place.

He placed where he did because he was soft...nothing more, nothing less....just as he was placed lower in he NPC in numerous USA/ Nats....when he showed up in shape, he was rewarded in kind (2nd/ Nationals)...

sorry, no one believes that.  the Pro Masters was between you and him.  1-2 either way would have been a legitmate decision.   1 and 8 was not.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: Chick on June 20, 2007, 09:57:09 PM
sorry, no one believes that.  the Pro Masters was between you and him.  1-2 either way would have been a legitmate decision.   1 and 8 was not.

1 and 2? No one there believed that.....I myself would have had him in the top 5, but way too soft for 2....

Please..answer to my statement of why they would allowed him to turn pro, or second at the Nationals, if it was an issue?

Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: timfogarty on June 20, 2007, 11:33:35 PM
1 and 2? No one there believed that.....I myself would have had him in the top 5, but way too soft for 2....

go back and read the reaction here on getbig right after the contest.  most agreed that he should have been top 2.

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Please..answer to my statement of why they would allowed him to turn pro, or second at the Nationals, if it was an issue?

different judges, didn't make the connection, etc.    without the mustache and under his real name, not too many NPC judges would know who he was.  But once he got his pro card, word quickly spread that porn star Carl Hardwick was now an IFBB pro.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Chick on June 20, 2007, 11:36:34 PM
You cant be serious with that answer....talk about reaching.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: gordiano on June 20, 2007, 11:41:18 PM
Give me a break  ::) The man has a world class physique and incredible stage presence.

Especially when he's humping the fucking ground.... ::)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: Chick on June 20, 2007, 11:47:35 PM
go back and read the reaction here on getbig right after the contest.  most agreed that he should have been top 2.

different judges, didn't make the connection, etc.    without the mustache and under his real name, not too many NPC judges would know who he was.  But once he got his pro card, word quickly spread that porn star Carl Hardwick was now an IFBB pro.

Go back and read my response again...I said, no one THERE, as in, actually sitting there, being there....
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: bigdumbbell on June 21, 2007, 05:05:10 AM
Go back and read my response again...I said, no one THERE, as in, actually sitting there, being there....


if the judges are of the same judicial temperament as texasbubba then WTF does it matter what the judges saw.  do you understand my point?  i'm not asking you to agree with it.   :)  they are dirty judges, and you expect clean decisions? ::)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: Chick on June 21, 2007, 10:46:36 AM

if the judges are of the same judicial temperament as texasbubba then WTF does it matter what the judges saw.  do you understand my point?  i'm not asking you to agree with it.   :)  they are dirty judges, and you expect clean decisions? ::)

Please...T-bub is  not a judge...and Lee Thompson wasn't on the panel. Amazing how even the online voting, which is totally anonymous, had me winning the show with a 92% margin...

Give it uo...your talking out of your ass.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: onlyme on June 21, 2007, 11:04:38 AM
Please...T-bub is  not a judge...and Lee Thompson wasn't on the panel. Amazing how even the online voting, which is totally anonymous, had me winning the show with a 92% margin...

Give it uo...your talking out of your ass.

Yes we believe you ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Camel Jockey on June 21, 2007, 11:08:57 AM
Kai is an awesome poser.

I saw his posing from the NY Pro on youtube, and he's got a certain thing about him when he poses. And his physique is awesome.

And who gives a shit if he's a stripper? It's nobody's business.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Jerryme7 on June 21, 2007, 11:10:25 AM
I think Im going to take male stripping classes and be the next Kai Greene!!

He is a great poser! Amazing!

Watch out world, here I come!!!
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Camel Jockey on June 21, 2007, 11:10:27 AM
 8)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: G o a t b o y on June 21, 2007, 03:54:25 PM
Please...T-bub is  not a judge...

Yes he is...  you even interviewed him on your show, don't you remember?  ::)


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Amazing how even the online voting, which is totally anonymous, had me winning the show with a 92% margin...


Gee, the "online voting" was at BB.com, "home of Bob Chick", with a big-ass pic of you right next to the "vote here" button.  Given that most visitors to that site are under 25 and incapable of thinking for themselves, who did you think they were gonna vote for?   ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrac
Post by: gordiano on June 21, 2007, 04:00:12 PM
Please...T-bub is  not a judge...and Lee Thompson wasn't on the panel. Amazing how even the online voting, which is totally anonymous, had me winning the show with a 92% margin...

Give it uo...your talking out of your ass.

Wasn't that voting thru YOUR sponsors site (BBING.COM), where all your nut-huggers hang out?  ::)



EDIT: Hadn't seen Goat's stament.  ;)
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: Nordic Beast on June 21, 2007, 04:03:30 PM
why does a guy like Troy Alves get passed over by judges show after show?.....is Kai better then Troy?  Is Kai's win the signal that judges are changing what body type wins shows?  IMO Rockel should have won the Colorado...I think it was close but total package was Rockel IMO.  Yes, Kai was in shape and has some real strengths........but what do I know?  I'm not hatin, but the nose ring is lame, take it out for the show.....he looks like he's geared up to be an entertainer, not a champion.  He does have good legs (calves too) but overall not in the same class as Rockel, Darrem and Silvio.
-my two cents

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(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/06.jpg)



first of all-----------Troy has a great physique and almost (I think should have) won the Ironman a few years back.  He was beaten by a pregnant gustavo that the judges rewarded because of his momentum at that point. Second, Kai won a show that had weaker competition then the Ironman-----he wasnt going up against a top 3 Mr. Olympian like Alves was.

You talk like Kai has won show after show and Alves is a constant tier 3 finisher, which is just nonsense.
 
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: gordiano on June 21, 2007, 04:06:17 PM
Kai is an awesome poser.

I saw his posing from the NY Pro on youtube, and he's got a certain thing about him when he poses. And his physique is awesome.

And who gives a shit if he's a stripper? It's nobody's business.

It isn't so much that he's a stripper, that I care about. If that's how he earns his money, so be it. It's not something I'D do, but whatever.



What I and others here take issue with, is the blatant gayness and stripper moves he does during his routines. Humping the ground SHOULD NOT be part of a posing routine. Show some class. Now wonder bbing gets no respect, these guys feed the hate. I just laugh at what I see. There were guys not too long ago, who took pride in displaying their physiques. Now-a-days, you have these strippers going on stage and making a mockery of what was once an artform.
Title: Re: 2007's best crossover Male Entertainer/IFBB Show winning Pro(Monster Disgrace)
Post by: eliscominblue on June 21, 2007, 06:51:36 PM
It isn't so much that he's a stripper, that I care about. If that's how he earns his money, so be it. It's not something I'D do, but whatever.



What I and others here take issue with, is the blatant gayness and stripper moves he does during his routines. Humping the ground SHOULD NOT be part of a posing routine. Show some class. Now wonder bbing gets no respect, these guys feed the hate. I just laugh at what I see. There were guys not too long ago, who took pride in displaying their physiques. Now-a-days, you have these strippers going on stage and making a mockery of what was once an artform.

I couldn't agree more!  Preach on.  I didn't explain myself well enough starting this thread....but the above is what I was getting out.....what happened to the class?