Better bodybuilding genetics: Hebrews vs. Caucasians.

[Strongmanfan]

Hello there,

What does Getbig make of this?  I would say it's close to a wash.  If you look at Mr. Olympia winners, it favours Hebrews, but nothing like the disparities seen in sprinting or the NBA.

I would give it to Hebrews, but not by a tremenous margin.

Discuss.

[Zillotch]

[Strongmanfan]

The multiplication of an anecdote is empirical evidence.

By no means am I saying that every single Hebrew bodybuilder is superior to every single Caucasian bodybuilder...I am just saying "on average, Hebrew bodybuilders are slightly better than Caucasian bodybuilders."

Only Wiggs would know for sure anyway.  He is a good man, and it is through him that I learned the Hebrew theory!

Consider this pure Frenchman top sprinter, who was top three in the 200m sprint this past Olympics:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Lemaitre

That said, Hebrews are still superior sprinters, on average.

Again, Wiggs knows this.

[ESFitness]

Hello there,

What does Getbig make of this?  I would say it's close to a wash.  If you look at Mr. Olympia winners, it favours Hebrews, but nothing like the disparities seen in sprinting or the NBA.

I would give it to Hebrews, but not by a tremenous margin.

Discuss.

With olympia winners you gotta look at whos the competition at the time.

Overall, just look at the lineups. How many white guys have the shape or seperation of somebody like
dex
Flex
Bonac
Ronnie
Cormier
Curry
Or whoever else...

Ability to get lean and hard looking would probably go to middle eastern guys, with exceptions like dorian, branch or munzer.

So white guys dont really win on either shape or conditioning.

Size? Maybe. But for every jp fux, theres a victor richards, and for every dorian, theres a ronnie.

[ESFitness]

For ever bob paris, theres 10 dozen black guys with similar builds who "workout" maybe 4x a month.

[Strongmanfan]

Great post, ESFitness.

Yes, I would give it to Hebrews myself - but not by leaps and bounds or anything.  It's not like sprinting or distance running or basketball where it's not even close.

I think there were only 30 men ever who were over 7'6, and 8 of them were in the NBA.  Has anyone heard that?  So if you are 7'6 or above, you have like a 25% chance of being in the NBA?  Height matters that much?  Lol.

Manute Bol was 7'7 and 200 pounds.  So skinny.

[Zillotch]

The multiplication of an anecdote is empirical evidence.

drugging to the extent required for success in this 'sport', and the 'sport' itself, are morally and intellectually repugnant.... therefore genetically appropriate Caucasians have little interest in doing so, thereby removing themselves from consideration.

genetically appropriate Caucasians rarely even set foot inside of a gym.

[Strongmanfan]

drugging to the extent required for success in this 'sport', and the 'sport' itself, is morally and intellectually repugnant.... therefore genetically appropriate Caucasians have little interest in doing so, thereby removing themselves from consideration.

genetically appropriate Caucasians rarely even set foot inside of a gym.

Interesting...and likely true.

It's funny to think that there are many Gunters around, and not likely training!

[Top Poodle]

Basically stfu and do the best with what you're given. Your bodybuilding fate is predetermine.

On the other hand, maybe you're trying to selectively breed with the proper woman to have elite bodybuilding kids...

 

[ESFitness]

drugging to the extent required for success in this 'sport', and the 'sport' itself, are morally and intellectually repugnant.... therefore genetically appropriate Caucasians have little interest in doing so, thereby removing themselves from consideration.

genetically appropriate Caucasians rarely even set foot inside of a gym.

Morals have nothing to do with the "sport" of bodybuilding.

&

Vast vast vast "Genetically appropriate" people never step foot in a gym. With no regard to race. Ive explained this many times before. This is why you see many people "blow up" when they go to prison. These guys never had an intetest in being a bodybuilder, but once they go to prison they start training because "it's expected" and they find out they have great genetics for bodybuilding. Once they leave, they quit training.

[Zillotch]

Morals have nothing to do with the "sport" of bodybuilding.

u got that right... bodybuilding is completely devoid of morality.

dont take this the wrong way.... but ur borderline mentally retarded. I will no longer be able to converse with u in any meaningful way, as I am simply too much of a bundle of sunshine, and have no interest in exposing u to reality.

[The Scott]

Morals have nothing to do with the "sport" of bodybuilding.

&

Vast vast vast "Genetically appropriate" people never step foot in a gym. With no regard to race. Ive explained this many times before. This is why you see many people "blow up" when they go to prison. These guys never had an intetest in being a bodybuilder, but once they go to prison they start training because "it's expected" and they find out they have great genetics for bodybuilding. Once they leave, they quit training.

Let me guess, you found this truth in a Bazooka Joe bubble gum wrapper.

[ratherbebig]

whatabout hawaiian guys

they are able to pack on a lot of mass

but struggle with getting shredded

[ESFitness]

u got that right... bodybuilding is completely devoid of morality.

dont take this the wrong way.... but ur borderline mentally retarded. I will no longer be able to converse with u in any meaningful way, as I am simply too much of a bundle of sunshine, and have no interest in exposing u to reality.

Great. Ill think of that while wiping my ass with a page of your precious bible tonight.

[Zillotch]

Great. Ill think of that while wiping my ass with a page of your precious bible tonight.

I will pray for u, homie... please watch out for paper cuts.

[Matt]

whatabout hawaiian guys

they are able to pack on a lot of mass

but struggle with getting shredded

So true about the Hawaiian guys.  I always assumed they would rather be big.

[SuperTed]

Blacks of west African heritage have the best genetics for BB.

[SuperTed]

whatabout hawaiian guys

they are able to pack on a lot of mass

but struggle with getting shredded

Genetically, Polynesians seem to carry quite a lot of fat. They get big easily and tend to be very strong, but you rarely see one who is lean. Whenever I think of them, I usually think of these type of physiques, built for power but not aesthetics - 

[funk51]

Genetically, Polynesians seem to carry quite a lot of fat. They get big easily and tend to be very strong, but you rarely see one who is lean. Whenever I think of them, I usually think of these type of physiques, built for power but not aesthetics - 

[funk51]

brutha

[falco]

Brit women have the biggest tits.

[Fortress]

Depends what appeals.

Thickness and a powerful aesthetic? Whites.

Contour, sweep and bulbous muscle bellies? Blacks.

Coleman was indeed massive, but upon analysis, he was still a traditional black structure, just expanded to ungodly proportions. His receptors reacted "positively" to the buckets of drugs he used. His strength was a result of chemically-inflated muscle and not an inherent predisposition to structural strength and power.

His bodily breakdown bears this out.

Blacks look more "cartoon-y", in general. In this way, they suit better to some favoured attributes of the judging criteria.

Then again, very few black champions will ever achieve the thickness, graininess and "strongman" appearance of a Yates.

Apples and oranges.

Tie.

[njflex]

Depends what appeals.

Thickness and a powerful aesthetic? Whites.

Contour, sweep and bulbous muscle bellies? Blacks.

Coleman was indeed massive, but upon analysis, he was still a traditional black structure, just expanded to ungodly proportions. His receptors reacted "positively" to the buckets of drugs he used. His strength was a result of chemically-inflated muscle and not an inherent predisposition to structural strength and power.

His bodily breakdown bears this out.

Blacks look more "cartoon-y", in general. In this way, they suit better to some favoured attributes of the judging criteria.

Then again, very few black champions will ever achieve the thickness, graininess and "strongman" appearance of a Yates.

Apples and oranges.

Tie.

,,NICE .I LIKE YOUR STORIES AND LITTLE TAKES FROM YOUR MUSCLE MAG DAYS..

[SuperTed]

Well, there are always exceptions to everything of course. It's rare to see a very lean Polynesian, but obviously there are still many about.

[Kwon]

For every Bob Paris, there's a Kai Greene.