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Title: "Ionized" water
Post by: MAXX on October 10, 2009, 01:44:25 PM: I watched the md video with evan talking about "ionized" water and how good it is for you. Well my common sense told me it reeked pseudo bullshit and marketing scam seeing as how expensive those "Ionizing" units are.

You be the judge. ;)

"Ionized" water debunked: http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html

Evan seems like a cool dude but he's way off here in my opinion.
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: ToxicAvenger on October 10, 2009, 01:49:49 PM: riiight up there with Oxygen Water :-\

http://www.aspirationsllc.com/OxygenWater.htm
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: dr.chimps on October 10, 2009, 01:50:52 PM: Hey, can I interest you in a Q-Ray bracelet? A bridge in Brooklyn? ;D
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: ToxicAvenger on October 10, 2009, 01:53:07 PM: (http://www.businesspundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/kidsarehilarious.jpg) :-\
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: affeman on October 10, 2009, 02:20:42 PM: Maybe he should try diet water then.

(http://tymask.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/diet-water.jpg)
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: haider on October 10, 2009, 02:31:38 PM: probably got scammed, or trying to scam other people into buying a line of products a la multi-level marketing schemes
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: timfogarty on October 10, 2009, 03:24:35 PM: * "Ionized water" is nothing more than sales fiction; the term is meaningless to chemists.

* Pure water (that is, water containing no dissolved ions) is too unconductive to undergo signficant electrolysis by "water ionizer" devices.

* Pure water can never be alkaline or acidic, nor can it be made so by electrolysis. Alkaline water must contain metallic ions of some kind — most commonly, sodium, calcium or magnesium.

* The idea that one must consume alkaline water to neutralize the effects of acidic foods is ridiculous; we get rid of excess acid by exhaling carbon dioxide.

* If you do drink alkaline water, its alkalinity is quickly removed by the highly acidic gastric fluid in the stomach.

* Uptake of water occurs mainly in the intestine, not in the stomach. But when stomach contents enter the intestine, they are neutralized and made alkaline by the pancreatic secretions — so all the water you drink eventually becomes alkaline anyway.

* The claims about the health benefits of drinking alkaline water are not supported by credible scientific evidence.

* There is nothing wrong with drinking slightly acidic waters such as rainwater. "Body pH" is a meaningless concept; different parts of the body (and even of individual cells) can have widely different pH values. The pH of drinking water has zero effect on that of the blood or of the body's cells.

* If you really want to de-acidify your stomach (at the possible cost of interfering with protein digestion), why spend hundreds of dollars for an electrolysis device when you can take calcium-magnesium pills, Alka-Seltzer or Milk of Magnesia?

* Electrolysis devices are generally worthless for treating water for health enhancement, removal of common impurities, disinfection, and scale control. Claims that "ionized" waters are antioxidants are untrue; hypochlorites (present in most such waters) are in fact oxidizing agents.
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: MAXX on October 10, 2009, 03:43:58 PM: yeah..

I'd say Evan just threw 2000+ $ down the drain :-\

no big deal for him I guess
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: affeman on October 10, 2009, 04:05:12 PM: Quote from: MAXX on October 10, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
yeah..

I'd say Evan just threw 2000+ $ down the drain :-\

no big deal for him I guess

But in the video he said he already feels the positive effects of his "new" water on his body and overall well-being. ???
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: Emmortal on October 10, 2009, 04:25:19 PM: Quote from: MAXX on October 10, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
yeah..

I'd say Evan just threw 2000+ $ down the drain :-\

no big deal for him I guess

Maybe he should have used that money to move out of his parents house.
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: Luv2Hurt on October 10, 2009, 05:35:59 PM: Quote from: affeman on October 10, 2009, 04:05:12 PM
But in the video he said he already feels the positive effects of his "new" water on his body and overall well-being. ???

Placebo effect can be very strong
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on October 10, 2009, 06:04:40 PM: It's his fucking money. Let him waste it.
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: claymore on October 10, 2009, 06:20:10 PM: Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on October 10, 2009, 06:04:40 PM
It's his fucking money. Let him waste it.

Exactly !!
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: timfogarty on October 10, 2009, 07:43:56 PM: Quote from: BroadStreetBruiser on October 10, 2009, 06:04:40 PM
It's his fucking money. Let him waste it.

isn't the issue that he's trying to convince others to waste their money?
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: haider on October 10, 2009, 07:50:03 PM: Quote from: timfogarty on October 10, 2009, 07:43:56 PM
isn't the issue that he's trying to convince others to waste their money?
its his opinion, can he not have one? just like he has opinions on eating fish rather than red meat..
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: Relentless on October 10, 2009, 08:02:04 PM: When do you think Evan will realize that he wasted a good brain on a bodybuilding career? I think it's gonna take a little while, but he'll eventually come to this realization...
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: wikkedonez on October 10, 2009, 08:15:18 PM: Water is water. ..nuff said.
Title: Re: "Ionized" water
Post by: HTexan on October 10, 2009, 08:31:04 PM: my parents have an ion water machine. The water taste good. As for health benefits idk.