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THIS IS PRECISELY WHY THE FEDS DON'T NEED TO BE IN THIS AT ALL!!
Holder and his goons are trying to make up for their embarrasing showing in the Zimmerman-Martin case last year.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/08/17/Holder-DOJ-Behind-the-Suppression-of-Michael-Brown-Robbery-Video
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/feds-urged-police-not-release-michael-brown-robbery-video-n182346
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Holder needs to back the f out of this
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To be honest, it didn't really change anything for those people in Ferguson. You could have shown a video tape of the scab raping orphans and it wouldn't have had an impact on that crowd. They were already determined to loot no matter what.
Now they look like asses because their sweet little innocent victim was anything but sweet or little or innocent or a victim.
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And now, black-owned businesses have been ruined. Yet, more black people without jobs.
Yet, we have another example of what Chris Rock said about the difference between black people and "N----s".
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/michael-brown-shooting-ferguson-cleans-after-another-night-unrest-n182291
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And now, black-owned businesses have been ruined. Yet, more black people without jobs.
Yet, we have another example of what Chris Rock said about the difference between black people and "N----s".
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/michael-brown-shooting-ferguson-cleans-after-another-night-unrest-n182291
Yup - burn down and loot those businesses who choose not to give up on these nabes and people - fng brilliant
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And now, black-owned businesses have been ruined. Yet, more black people without jobs.
Yet, we have another example of what Chris Rock said about the difference between black people and "N----s".
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/michael-brown-shooting-ferguson-cleans-after-another-night-unrest-n182291
You would think the point of rioting and looting and is to punish those you perceive to be against you. But they always just tear up their own neighborhoods.
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Yup - burn down and loot those businesses who choose not to give up on these nabes and people - fng brilliant
You would think the point of rioting and looting and is to punish those you perceive to be against you. But they always just tear up their own neighborhoods.
Indeed! Notice these bastions of bravery aren't going to the white St. Louis suburbs, like Bridgeton.
I was in St. Louis just two weeks ago, as my daughter had a piano recital. My wife LOATHED the place. We couldn't get back to KC fast enough, as far as she was concerned.
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I greatly dislike the feds being involved.
I greatly dislike the local police "varying" their info on what the shooting cop knew.
- he didn't know it was the robbery suspect
- he knew from the cigars in hand
- he knew from the radio call (new version?)
Glen Beck show this morning - "Let's all be VERY careful before jumping to conclusions here..." Beck has said this two other times - He said it when everyone was celebrating Scoot Brown 41 win (as Brown was a lib). Beck warned about Benghazi (Beck said the embassy was doing all sorts of shady shit there).
When Beck says "ehhhh, let's be careful on this one, guys...", I tend to listen. he usually knows something unconfirmed or behind the scenes. believe me, when he's right, beck is VERY good at jumping to conclusions, predicting, looking way down teh road. So when he says "eh, slow down folks, let's wait and see..." it makes me wonder.
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I greatly dislike the feds being involved.
I greatly dislike the local police "varying" their info on what the shooting cop knew.
- he didn't know it was the robbery suspect
- he knew from the cigars in hand
- he knew from the radio call (new version?)
Glen Beck show this morning - "Let's all be VERY careful before jumping to conclusions here..." Beck has said this two other times - He said it when everyone was celebrating Scoot Brown 41 win (as Brown was a lib). Beck warned about Benghazi (Beck said the embassy was doing all sorts of shady shit there).
When Beck says "ehhhh, let's be careful on this one, guys...", I tend to listen. he usually knows something unconfirmed or behind the scenes. believe me, when he's right, beck is VERY good at jumping to conclusions, predicting, looking way down teh road. So when he says "eh, slow down folks, let's wait and see..." it makes me wonder.
The feds are involved to push the race narrative, nothing more. That's why they tried to suppress the robbery video. That's why they want an "independent" autopsy. That's why they're pursuing "civil rights" violations, even though there is NO EVIDENCE (to date) that race was a factor in this incident.
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The feds are involved to push the race narrative, nothing more. That's why they tried to suppress the robbery video. That's why they want an "independent" autopsy. That's why they're pursuing "civil rights" violations, even though there is NO EVIDENCE (to date) that race was a factor in this incident.
100% accurate. During the 50's there were the witch hunts of McCarthyism. We are now in the the era of Holderism.
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To be honest, it didn't really change anything for those people in Ferguson. You could have shown a video tape of the scab raping orphans and it wouldn't have had an impact on that crowd. They were already determined to loot no matter what.
Now they look like asses because their sweet little innocent victim was anything but sweet or little or innocent or a victim.
Exactly...they are permanently locked in to the 'black as victims-white people oppress us' narrative as an excuse for their utter failure and nothing will change that.
And Holder's sole motivations as a AG is to incite racial tensions and work on the behalf of the democratic party, nothing more.
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Exactly...they are permanently locked in to the 'black as victims-white people oppress us' narrative as an excuse for their utter failure and nothing will change that.
And Holder's sole motivations as a AG is to incite racial tensions and work on the behalf of the democratic party, nothing more.
If they were really mad at evil ol' whitey, they'd be bum-rushing places like Bridgeton, not their own town of Ferguson.
Of course, they'd be mowed down in a matter of minutes, were they to try something that stupid.
Nothing says "down with the white man" more than stealing weaves from black beauty shops.
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Exactly...they are permanently locked in to the 'black as victims-white people oppress us' narrative as an excuse for their utter failure and nothing will change that.
And Holder's sole motivations as a AG is to incite racial tensions and work on the behalf of the democratic party, nothing more.
They are in a loop, repeating the same scenarios and behavior over and over. As I mentioned before, choosing Holder as Attorney General demonstrates poor decision making. Holder only cares about "justice" for 13% of the population. He doesn't care about Hispanics, Whites or Asians.
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If they were really mad at evil ol' whitey, they'd be bum-rushing placed like Bridgeton, not their own town of Ferguson.
Of course, they'd be mowed down in a matter of minutes, were they to try something that stupid.
Nothing says "down with the white man" more than stealing weaves from black beauty shops.
Its just a complete breakdown of common sense, order, etc. These people are just another generation of failed liberal policies, failed public school system run by leftists, let down by their worthless lib 'community leaders" who make excuses, etc.
Nothing is ever going to change though until there is a real honest conversation as Holder says he wants. That is not going to happen in my lifetime
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If they were really mad at evil ol' whitey, they'd be bum-rushing places like Bridgeton, not their own town of Ferguson.
Of course, they'd be mowed down in a matter of minutes, were they to try something that stupid.
Nothing says "down with the white man" more than stealing weaves from black beauty shops.
I am sooooo going to steal that.
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The feds are involved to push the race narrative, nothing more. That's why they tried to suppress the robbery video. That's why they want an "independent" autopsy. That's why they're pursuing "civil rights" violations, even though there is NO EVIDENCE (to date) that race was a factor in this incident.
Agreed that's exactly what they're doing. A handy distraction so nobody notices another 2 weeks of obama criminal legislation. I wonder what exec order he'll quietly pass while Rush is doing Michael Brown impressions and working on 17 variations of "thug" to use on his show.
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Agreed that's exactly what they're doing. A handy distraction so nobody notices another 2 weeks of obama criminal legislation. I wonder what exec order he'll quietly pass while Rush is doing Michael Brown impressions and working on 17 variations of "thug" to use on his show.
Holder is on a personal mission to root out all racism real or imagined. Ive made the comparison before, hes the McCarthy of our time.
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Holder is on a personal mission to root out all racism real or imagined. Ive made the comparison before, hes the McCarthy of our time.
Correct. he should/could have been impeached for that fast & furious criminal activity that he personally oversaw.
Repubs/issa/getbiggers chose to pass up the impeachment option and to go after holder. I mean, dems have the guts to completely demolish alberto gonzalez for WAY less.
Until repubs start kicking these liberal shit starters out of office, they own this bullshitte. It's on them.
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Indeed! Notice these bastions of bravery aren't going to the white St. Louis suburbs, like Bridgeton.
I was in St. Louis just two weeks ago, as my daughter had a piano recital. My wife LOATHED the place. We couldn't get back to KC fast enough, as far as she was concerned.
Holy shit your from KC...where? ST Louis is a shithole......except near the ball parks...its a complete right off. If you've ever been through it on 70...east St Louis looks like Beirut. If your headed through gas up on the KC side of St Louis.
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Correct. he should/could have been impeached for that fast & furious criminal activity that he personally oversaw.
Repubs/issa/getbiggers chose to pass up the impeachment option and to go after holder. I mean, dems have the guts to completely demolish alberto gonzalez for WAY less.
Until repubs start kicking these liberal shit starters out of office, they own this bullshitte. It's on them.
I agree 100%. Fast and furious is the Iran/Contra of our time.
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I agree 100%. Fast and furious is the Iran/Contra of our time.
Dems had no problem going after reagan and north and friends of that.
Dems had no problem impeaching one of their own (lewinsky BJ)
Dems had no problem booting Alberto gonzalez, going after him.
Repubs have the problem, despite all the evidence they have, and everyone that'd come fwd if they started proceedings. They don't want a fight. Obama's been ruthless when it comes to terrists, political races, etc... I think they fear what he'd be like on the ropes, and that is why they won't impeach.
also, cool we agree 100% on something, archer :)
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Dems had no problem going after reagan and north and friends of that.
Dems had no problem impeaching one of their own (lewinsky BJ)
Dems had no problem booting Alberto gonzalez, going after him.
Repubs have the problem, despite all the evidence they have, and everyone that'd come fwd if they started proceedings. They don't want a fight. Obama's been ruthless when it comes to terrists, political races, etc... I think they fear what he'd be like on the ropes, and that is why they won't impeach.
also, cool we agree 100% on something, archer :)
I never thought we disagreed very much. We generally agree on most things as far as I can tell.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/18/county-investigation-michael-brown-was-shot-from-the-front-had-marijuana-in-his-system
He was a doper too - just like Ashtray
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I think that releasing the tape in question was stupid, especially if you are going to do it at the same time as you say "the Officer who shot him didn't know about this and didn't pull him over for this." You simply have nothing to gain from releasing the tape at this point in time and, really, everything to lose: The rioters will perceive it as an attempt to deflect responsibility (or even fabricate evidence) to make the actions of the Officer involved seem reasonable, making them more upset and make an already volatile situation even more so.
Questions about the shooting aside, the plain and simple fact is that Ferguson police horribly mismanaged this whole thing from the beginning, and their inept handling has greatly escalated this situation.
If one good thing comes out of this, it's that we can all see how poorly idiotic cops handle these situations and how blatantly they abuse their power: arresting journalists, firing tear gas at camera crews and tearing down equipment and threatening to shoot people who tweet. Hopefully Ferguson will be the impetus that we need to demand a professional police force that has ethics and is devoted to serving a protecting, instead of rogue bands of jack-booted thugs with a badge that elevates them above the law.
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Holy shit your from KC...where? ST Louis is a shithole......except near the ball parks...its a complete right off. If you've ever been through it on 70...east St Louis looks like Beirut. If your headed through gas up on the KC side of St Louis.
I'm sandwiched between Raytown and Independence, in the 'burbs. I know how raggedy St. Louis is; my stepfather was from there and I had the unfortunate privilege to spend a summer there as a teenager.
When I traveled for my daughter's recital, our hotel was in Bridgeton.
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I think that releasing the tape in question was stupid, especially if you are going to do it at the same time as you say "the Officer who shot him didn't know about this and didn't pull him over for this." You simply have nothing to gain from releasing the tape at this point in time and, really, everything to lose: The rioters will perceive it as an attempt to deflect responsibility (or even fabricate evidence) to make the actions of the Officer involved seem reasonable, making them more upset and make an already volatile situation even more so.
Questions about the shooting aside, the plain and simple fact is that Ferguson police horribly mismanaged this whole thing from the beginning, and their inept handling has greatly escalated this situation.
If one good thing comes out of this, it's that we can all see how poorly idiotic cops handle these situations and how blatantly they abuse their power: arresting journalists, firing tear gas at camera crews and tearing down equipment and threatening to shoot people who tweet. Hopefully Ferguson will be the impetus that we need to demand a professional police force that has ethics and is devoted to serving a protecting, instead of rogue bands of jack-booted thugs with a badge that elevates them above the law.
I disagree. I think it was the right move to release the tape. Those in the media advocating on behalf of Brown were attempting to poison the well of public perception by creating a false narrative. The video squashed that. As for the rioters, they are going to loot no matter what. This isn't about justice for them, its about stealing. They don't care what really happened. They aren't looking for a reason but an excuse.
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I disagree. I think it was the right move to release the tape. Those in the media advocating on behalf of Brown were attempting to poison the well of public perception by creating a false narrative. The video squashed that. As for the rioters, they are going to loot no matter what. This isn't about justice for them, its about stealing. They don't care what really happened. They aren't looking for a reason but an excuse.
Nonsense: those in the media advocating on behalf of Brown have continued and will continue to do so. They'll say "It was just a pack of cigarettes" or "By the Police's own admission, this played no role in the shooting." or "You don't know the whole story" or who knows what else. Absolutely nothing was gained by the release, especially when it was coupled with the other statements that that inept police chief made - that the Officer involved in the shooting didn't know about this.
Does the tape somehow make the shooting more reasonable? It doesn't.
Does the tape somehow make the Officer's actions more reasonable? It doesn't.
Does the tape somehow make the Ferguson Police's actions more reasonable? It doesn't.
Nothing was gained by this release at this moment in time and a lot was lost. The tape should have been released, no doubt. But at a later time, when the situation had been brought under control and tensions had subsided.
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Nonsense: those in the media advocating on behalf of Brown have continued and will continue to do so. They'll say "It was just a pack of cigarettes" or "You don't know the whole story" or who knows what else. Absolutely nothing was gained by the release, especially when it was coupled with the other statements that that inept police chief made - that the Officer involved in the shooting didn't know about this.
Does the tape somehow make the shooting more reasonable? It doesn't.
Does the tape somehow make the Officer's actions more reasonable? It doesn't.
Does the tape somehow make the Ferguson Police's actions more reasonable? It doesn't.
Nothing was gained by this release at this moment in time and a lot was lost. The tape should have been released, no doubt. But at a later time, when the situation had been brought under control and tensions had subsided.
It informs the populace that the image of Brown being fostered by the media is wrong and misleading. I prefer to know when I'm being manipulated. Releasing the tape had no bearing on the actions of the looters. They were going to loot no matter what. Again, the riots aren't about anything other than getting free stuff.
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It informs the populace that the image of Brown being fostered by the media is wrong and misleading.
Except it doesn't really inform the populace of anything relevant to the question at hand. Nothing in this tape shows Brown reaching for the Officer's gun. Nothing in this tape helps elucidate whether the shooting was necessary or not. Nothing in this tape shows the mental state of either the Officer or Brown.
I prefer to know when I'm being manipulated.
You're always being manipulated. You think the tape release by the police wasn't an attempt at manipulation?
Releasing the tape had no bearing on the actions of the looters. They were going to loot no matter what. Again, the riots aren't about anything other than getting free stuff.
It had a bearing: it gave the rioters another excuse - and do note, I said excuse.
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Except it doesn't really inform the populace of anything relevant to the question at hand. Nothing in this tape shows Brown reaching for the Officer's gun. Nothing in this tape helps elucidate whether the shooting was necessary or not. Nothing in this tape shows the mental state of either the Officer or Brown.
You're always being manipulated. You think the tape release by the police wasn't an attempt at manipulation?
It had a bearing: it gave the rioters another excuse - and do note, I said excuse.
The video wasn't produced out of thin air. The police had said he was a suspect in a robbery. There was a demand for proof.
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The video wasn't produced out of thin air. The police had said he was a suspect in a robbery. There was a demand for proof.
My point was that the robbery wasn't, by the Police's own admission, a factor in the stop in question. Mentioning the robbery at this point was just more ineptitude. Would it somehow make it all ok that he was shot if he was actually a suspect in the robbery?
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Who cares.... black guy.... might have stolen smokes, deserves to die.
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My point was that the robbery wasn't, by the Police's own admission, a factor in the stop in question. Mentioning the robbery at this point was just more ineptitude. Would it somehow make it all ok that he was shot if he was actually a suspect in the robbery?
The video helps explain the mindset of Brown. First, it shows his aggressiveness. Secondly, it might indicate what he was thinking when the cop stopped him. There is a good chance he assumed he was being stopped because of the robbery, heightening his aggression.
Who cares.... black guy.... might have stolen smokes, deserves to die.
Back with the race-baiting and persecution complex. You're never going to believe anything other than what you want to believe. Might have stolen? The clothes were exactly the same. I can't believe how delusional you are.
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The video helps explain the mindset of Brown. First, it shows his aggressiveness. Secondly, it might indicate what he was thinking when the cop stopped him. There is a good chance he assumed he was being stopped because of the robbery, heightening his aggression.
Even if it shows all that, the Police have already admitted this wasn't a factor in the stop, and the tape is almost certainly inadmissible as evidence anyways. Per Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b)(1), which is duplicated in some shape or form in most State's Rules of Evidence: "Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character."
I'm on my iPhone and don't have convenient access to Lexis account to look up the mirror State statute, but it's almost certainly there.
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Even if it shows all that, the Police have already admitted this wasn't a factor in the stop, and the tape is almost certainly inadmissible as evidence anyways. Per Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b)(1), which is duplicated in some shape or form in most State's Rules of Evidence: "Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character."
I'm on my iPhone and don't have convenient access to Lexis account to look up the mirror State statute, but it's almost certainly there.
We will have to see the police report from the officer. Regardless of what anyone else said, if he at any point recognized Brown as the suspect it becomes relevant in court. On a personal level, I'm glad they released the tape. I personally enjoy Sharpton looking like a fool.
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The video of the robbery/roughing up of the clerk, as well as the revelations of his criminal record, ARE important in the sense that it lends corroborative evidence which suggest the cop's version of the story is much more likely to be accurate, while greatly harming the narrative being pushed by the media and the idiot rioters that he was 'just an innocent sweet college boy who was walking down the street when an evil white racist cop pulled over and executed him for no reason'.
Archer is right.
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We will have to see the police report from the officer. Regardless of what anyone else said, if he at any point recognized Brown as the suspect it becomes relevant in court.
The police already said that he was not recognized and the robbery wasn't an issue in this stop. Am I talking to a wall here?
On a personal level, I'm glad they released the tape. I personally enjoy Sharpton looking like a fool.
We all enjoy exposing Al Sharpton as the racist piece of shit that he is, although I'm not sure how much shit should be exposed. They belong in a septic tank, out of sight and out of mind.
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THIS IS PRECISELY WHY THE FEDS DON'T NEED TO BE IN THIS AT ALL!!
Holder and his goons are trying to make up for their embarrasing showing in the Zimmerman-Martin case last year.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/08/17/Holder-DOJ-Behind-the-Suppression-of-Michael-Brown-Robbery-Video
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/feds-urged-police-not-release-michael-brown-robbery-video-n182346
Holder was right....he knew that releasing the robbery video would further incite the crowd and its also why his store was subsequently looted.
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The police already said that he was not recognized and the robbery wasn't an issue in this stop. Am I talking to a wall here?
We all enjoy exposing Al Sharpton as the racist piece of shit that he is, although I'm not sure how much shit should be exposed. They belong in a septic tank, out of sight and out of mind.
He wasnt initially recognized and stopped because he was a suspect in a robbery.. The tape might be admissible in court because it confirms the officers report of an aggressive Brown.
Holder was right....he knew that releasing the robbery video would further incite the crowd and its also why his store was subsequently looted.
The video didnt incite the looters. They were intent on stealing and needed no further encouragement
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He wasnt initially recognized and stopped because he was a suspect in a robbery.. The tape might be admissible in court because it confirms the officers report of an aggressive Brown.
No, it cannot. Again, as I previously wrote, per Federal Rule of Evidence 404(b)(1): "Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character." Similar (if not substantially identical) language exists in State Rules of Evidence.
I don't know how the above can be any clearer.
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THIS IS PRECISELY WHY THE FEDS DON'T NEED TO BE IN THIS AT ALL!!
Holder and his goons are trying to make up for their embarrasing showing in the Zimmerman-Martin case last year.
http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/08/17/Holder-DOJ-Behind-the-Suppression-of-Michael-Brown-Robbery-Video
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/michael-brown-shooting/feds-urged-police-not-release-michael-brown-robbery-video-n182346
One of the biggest myths when this clown was "elected" is that racism would be less. The fact is he's made it (I would venture to say this is done on purpose) worse by 10 fold. This is THE most racist administration this country has ever seen. All the from Holder not doing anything with the Black Panthers and voter intimidation to Obama stupidly saying "If I had son like Trayvon he would look just like me" to this. He and this administration needs to keep quiet about anything that local government should be handling. Those fuckers are just as racist as Farrakan, Sharpton and Jackson combined.
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One of the biggest myths when this clown was "elected" is that racism would be less. The fact is he's made it (I would venture to say this is done on purpose) worse by 10 fold. This is THE most racist administration this country has ever seen. All the from Holder not doing anything with the Black Panthers and voter intimidation to Obama stupidly saying "If I had son like Trayvon he would look just like me" to this. He and this administration needs to keep quiet about anything that local government should be handling. Those fuckers are just as racist as Farrakan, Sharpton and Jackson combined.
I agree with the broad outlines of your statement. I don't think that Obama, himself, is racist. But the notion that electing him would magically move us into some post-racial-tension world and things would just be wonderful is just bullshit. The simple fact is that the Obama administration has certainly fucked things up repeatedly.
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Except it doesn't really inform the populace of anything relevant to the question at hand. Nothing in this tape shows Brown reaching for the Officer's gun. Nothing in this tape helps elucidate whether the shooting was necessary or not. Nothing in this tape shows the mental state of either the Officer or Brown.
You're always being manipulated. You think the tape release by the police wasn't an attempt at manipulation?
It had a bearing: it gave the rioters another excuse - and do note, I said excuse.
Sorry Avxo, I know you're not going to like this, but... I'm in total 1000% agreement with you on this one!
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Sorry Avxo, I know you're not going to like this, but... I'm in total 1000% agreement with you on this one!
I AM IMMEDIATELY SWITCHING MY POSITION! RELEASE ALL THE TAPES! ;D
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I AM IMMEDIATELY SWITCHING MY POSITION! RELEASE ALL THE TAPES! ;D
LOL, ...I knew you wouldn't like it, ...but I had to weigh in.
ps: If it's any consolation, my agreeing with you, ...and in public no less,
...was extremely painful. In fact, it was downright torturous! ;)
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Who cares.... black guy.... might have stolen smokes, deserves to die.
nah mang, he was an angel that was going to sell those blunts to raise money for the church.
did you not get the email?
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nah mang, he was an angel that was going to sell those blunts to raise money for the church.
did you not get the email?
He's having a reaction stemming from years of programming.
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nah mang, he was an angel that was going to sell those blunts to raise money for the church.
did you not get the email?
Have they confirmed the guy on tape was Brown?
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What difference does it make if he was an angel or not?
What matters is whether or not Wilson had just cause to shot him.
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What difference does it make if he was an angel or not?
What matters is whether or not Wilson had just cause to shot him.
This.
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What difference does it make if he was an angel or not?
What matters is whether or not Wilson had just cause to shot him.
I would disagree. If the cop knew this guy to be violent, it would contribute to whether or not he needed to use the force used.
Not sure releasing the tape was smart though. I don't know if everyone is just taking it for gospel that it is Brown on the tape, or if that's been conclusively established.
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Have they confirmed the guy on tape was Brown?
his families lawyer has said it was...his accomplice in the robbery who is they guy that said brown was on his knees with his hands in the air when they officer shot him at close range said it was them....
although the autoposy showed that there was no powerd residue on brown, that he was not shot in the back and that apparently his hands were not raised when he was shot all of which his accomplice has said he was an eye witness to.
So who knows if he is credible or not ;)
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What difference does it make if he was an angel or not?
What matters is whether or not Wilson had just cause to shot him.
completely agree, my post was to point out the stupidity in malberts post.
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What difference does it make if he was an angel or not?
What matters is whether or not Wilson had just cause to shot him.
good point there.
and wilson's statement cannot "evolve" and still be considered credible.
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There was some claim that he was attempting to go for the officer's weapon. I remember hearing that before the video was leaked. Not sure if it is true or not, but if were... well when you try to seize a police officer's gun, well.... things just aren't going to go very well for either of you afterwards.
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I disagree. I think it was the right move to release the tape. Those in the media advocating on behalf of Brown were attempting to poison the well of public perception by creating a false narrative. The video squashed that. As for the rioters, they are going to loot no matter what. This isn't about justice for them, its about stealing. They don't care what really happened. They aren't looking for a reason but an excuse.
I agree. It doesn't justify an improper shooting, but it's all part of the story, just like the contention that he was a "gentle giant," and the pictures of him in his graduation gown.