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« Reply #4575 on: August 30, 2019, 03:20:24 PM »
The "highly trained professionals" just looked at Facebook pictures and arrested a young man who had nothing to do with the rape. He offered DNA samples immediately hoping to prove his innocence but he still was jailed and it took 15 months (!) just to send the DNA samples for testing and then another year (!!) to conduct the test. This young man lost 2 years of his life, the bail money ($540,000) and of course his name will still be stained.

When cops and prosecutors are not held accountable, why would they care if they throw an innocent man in jail? If instead they were sent to prison (or death row to be executed) and forced to pay all the expenses and punitive damages out of their own pockets it might be a different story. Laws and punishment don't seem to apply to cops and prosecutors.

Man who spent 2 years in jail for crime he did not commit now free

For two years, Weaver was locked up in jail for a crime that he did not commit.

“It’s just sad that two years of a young man’s life were taken away from him,” Emory Anthony Jr., the attorney representing Weaver, said. He first took the case back in 2017. “This all started with the allegation that a home was broken into. The young lady was raped, sodomized. They were robbed.”

Anthony Jr. explained that through a photo of Weaver on Facebook that bore a resemblance to the alleged perpetrator, Weaver was linked to the case and arrested. In total, he was facing 11 charges.

Weaver never did give up, but because bond was set to about $540,000, he sat in jail for two years. For the entirety of that time, he waited for DNA found at the crime scene to be tested. Per his attorney, Weaver eagerly submitted his own DNA for testing as well.

The test results came back this summer and the DNA collected at the scene did not match Weaver’s.

He could finally go home. He was finally free.

https://www.cbs42.com/top-stories/man-who-spent-2-years-in-jail-for-crime-he-did-not-commit-now-free/


Two Years Later, Treveon Weaver Exonerated

According to Weaver’s attorney, Emory Anthony, Weaver was pegged as the suspect through one of his photos on Facebook. Apparently, the attorney said, Weaver bore a resemblance to the real attacker.

A resemblance, as in, “well, he kinda looks like the guy,” which might be said about one, or ten or a thousand, people.* Some of us have unique characteristics that make our appearance stand out. Others, well, we’re fairly ordinary looking. But almost all of us have other people who resemble us, to some extent or another. To say Weaver “resembled” the perp is to say that the silver Prius resembled the getaway car, limiting the focus to a few thousand cars in any given city.

According to court records, the assailant urinated on the victim. DNA samples were taken from the scene. Those samples were turned over to the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences and returned to Bessemer police on April 19, 2018.

The results excluded Weaver’s DNA from being found on the victim or at the scene of the crime, according to a motion filed by Weaver’s attorney Anthony, who had repeatedly requested the results. He received them, he said, days before Weaver’s April 1 trial was to begin.

“The untimely giving of the DNA results some 11 months later is prejudicial to the defendant in this case and has violated his constitutional right to timely have evidence showing he is not guilty,’’ Anthony wrote.

It took 11 months to get the DNA results that could have been produced the next day had the prosecution wanted that to happen. But it also took 15 months beforehand to get Weaver’s DNA tested at all, based on his lawyer’s pushing and motion. One might suspect that the cops or prosecutors would have sought DNA testing within minutes of Weaver’s arrest, if for no other reason than to nail down their case against him and prove as conclusively as possible that he was the person who raped and sodomized a woman in her own home.

https://blog.simplejustice.us/2019/08/29/two-years-later-treveon-weaver-exonerated/

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« Reply #4576 on: August 30, 2019, 04:25:14 PM »
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« Reply #4577 on: August 30, 2019, 09:57:49 PM »

“When cops and prosecutors are not held accountable, why would they care if they throw an innocent man in jail? If instead they were sent to prison (or death row to be executed) and forced to pay all the expenses and punitive damages out of their own pockets it might be a different story. Laws and punishment don't seem to apply to cops”

If only the above was true
Some of the most despicable criminals
Are Cops & Prosecutors- Disgusting People

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« Reply #4578 on: September 01, 2019, 12:21:36 PM »
Even this horrific abuse, attack and kidnapping of a nurse who was following the law and serving her community and the flagrant and purposeful disregard for the laws and the courts was not enough it seems to make citizens fully realize the abusive nature of these violent criminals.
Firing and/or demotion is not enough. Until now, these violent criminals were on paid vacation. It is likely that Payne will appeal, the cop union will get involved and enforce their own rules and he won't suffer any actual consequences. He along with his supervisor should rot in prison as should any other cops that might have been present but did not subdue and arrest Payne.

Utah Cop who Forcibly Arrested Nurse for Refusing Blood Draw Fired

The Utah cop video recorded roughly handcuffing a nurse after she refused to allow a blood draw on an unconscious patient has been fired.

Salt Lake Police Chief Mike Brown relieved detective Jeff Payne of his duties for violating department policies when he arrested Alex Wubbels and dragged the screaming nurse out of the hospital.

Chief Brown demoted Payne’s supervisor, watch commander Lt. James Tracey, to the rank of officer after viewing the video, which was recorded on police body cams on July 26.

The decision to fire Payne comes after an internal affairs report released Sept. 13 found both officers violated department policy by failing to uphold the department’s requirement to treat all citizens “equally with courtesy, consideration and dignity.”

“You demonstrated extremely poor professional judgment (especially for an officer with 27 years of experience), which calls into question your ability to effectively serve the public and the department,” Brown wrote in a termination letter to Payne, which can be read below.

“In examining your conduct, I am deeply troubled by your lack of sound professional judgment and your discourteous, disrespectful, and unwarranted behavior, which unnecessarily escalated a situation that could and should have been resolved in a manner far different from the course of action you chose to pursue.”

“You inappropriately acted against Ms. Wubbels,” Brown added.

Payne’s attorney Greg Skordas argued firing Payne was excessive and said his client served the department well for nearly three decades.

“I‘m really frustrated by the way this case has been processed,
Skordas told the Salt Lake Tribune.

“I do think that Salt Lake City did a fair job of doing the investigation, and I think that their findings are, by and large, accurate. But I think the chief reacted to a lot of public pressure and scrutiny in making a decision that doesn’t fit the conduct.”

Payne was previously disciplined in 2013 after an internal affairs investigation confirmed he sexually harassed a female co-worker.

The former officer worked part-time as a paramedic, but was fired from that job on September 5 after fallout from his arrest of Wubbels continued.

During the incident, Payne threatened to punish the hospital as well as Wubbels by bringing “all the transients” to the hospital and taking the “good patients” elsewhere.

“I’ll bring them all the transients and take good patients elsewhere,”  Payne says in the video.

Body cam footage of the incident, which sparked a nationwide conversation on the level of force used by police, can be seen below.



https://photographyisnotacrime.com/2017/10/utah-cop-forcibly-arrested-nurse-refusing-blood-draw-fired/

Was anyone under the impression that the scumbag who threatened, violently assaulted and kidnapped a nurse would not find a job in the same County? Guess again...

Police officer who handcuffed Utah nurse Alex Wubbels gets hired at Weber County jail

Jeff Payne, the former Salt Lake City police officer who handcuffed nurse Alex Wubbels, has been hired to work at the Weber County jail, a human resources employee confirmed Wednesday.

The county’s human resources office said Payne was hired Aug. 9 to work part time at the jail in a position that does not include benefits. Sheriff’s officials later confirmed that Payne was hired as a “civilian corrections assistant” to work in the medical unit of the jail.

This marks the second time in recent weeks that the Weber County Sheriff’s Office has hired a peace officer who was fired from a previous job. The department also hired a former University of Utah detective who was fired after she ignored concerns from student athlete Lauren McCluskey, who later was murdered, and from a 17-year-old girl who said she had been unlawfully detained by a U. student she was dating.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/08/28/police-officer-who/

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« Reply #4579 on: September 03, 2019, 01:52:07 PM »
A "sheriff" fires 10 rounds (with an "assault rifle" nonetheless, the ones they want to ban but only for law abiding citizens, not for cops or criminals) at an innocent man in a white pickup, suffering two collapsed lungs and an injured liver.... NO CHARGES
Of course, expect the taxpayers to foot the bill when this poor man files a lawsuit for the medical expenses and any other damages he suffered.

The radio alert said a gray pickup. The truck the sheriff shot 10 times was white.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/texas/article/The-radio-alert-said-a-gray-pickup-The-truck-the-14395847.php

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« Reply #4580 on: September 03, 2019, 01:58:16 PM »
A cop sexually assaulted a 5 year old girl but he gets probation, NO PRISON TIME! Cops sure seem to get some sweet plea deals for abhorrent crimes.

Former Honolulu police officer gets probation in sex assault of 5-year-old girl

Deputy Prosecutor Loren Haugen said in state court Tuesday that he offered fired Honolulu police officer Teddy Van Lerberghe a plea deal in the sexual assault case against him involving a victim who was 5-year-old when the sexual assaults started because that’s what the victim wanted.

“There was one aspect that she did deem quite important. And that by pleading to the charges, Teddy Van Lerberghe could never, ever again be a police officer or become a police officer in this state or any state,” Haugen said.

The victim did not show up in court Tuesday for Van Lerberghe’s sentence.

Somerville sentenced Van Lerberghe, 45, to five years of probation for 4 counts of second-degree sexual assault and 3 counts of third-degree sexual assault, and did not order him to serve any of the five years behind bars, according to the terms of the plea agreement. She also ordered Van Lerberghe to pay $735 in fees into a state special fund for crime victims, $700 into a fund used to investigate and prosecute internet crimes against children and a $150 probation services fee.

In addition, Van Lerberghe must submit to sex offender treatment and register as a convicted sex offender for the rest of his life.

An Oahu grand jury returned an indictment in 2017 charging Van Lerberghe with four counts of first-degree sexual assault and the three third-degree sexual assaults. The state agreed to reduce the first-degree sexual assaults to second-degree sexual assaults. Van Lerberghe pleaded no contest in May.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2019/08/27/hawaii-news/former-honolulu-police-officer-gets-probation-in-sex-assault-of-5-year-old-girl/

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« Reply #4581 on: September 03, 2019, 02:12:31 PM »
Tell us more about your experience trolling the streets of Lake Oswego, Oregon after 10 PM

I think you mean commuting and not trolling. Lake Oswego is situated between West Linn and Portland. This is the shortest route to take when I go to Portland and from Portland to home. Sorry, there is no more to tell.

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« Reply #4582 on: September 05, 2019, 10:25:31 AM »
Once again: criminal gangs.

Cops don disguises, trash cars of man who filed complaint against them, prosecutor says

Two Asbury Park police officers donned disguises to exact revenge on a citizen who filed a complaint against them by slashing the tires on two of his vehicles, authorities announced Wednesday.

The Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office charged officers Stephen Martinsen, 29, and Thomas Dowling, 26, both of Asbury Park, with conspiracy, criminal mischief and weapons offenses. The officers are accused of vandalizing two vehicles in Ocean Grove and Asbury Park early on Sept. 3, authorities said.

“It is alleged that officer Martinsen and Special Law Enforcement officer Dowling did purposely damage both vehicles, both owned by the same person,” a press release from the Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office said. “The vehicle owner had filed an administrative complaint against both officers several days before the vandalism incidents.”

Authorities said the two officers wore disguises when they rode their bikes to the vehicles, smashed out windows and slashed all the tires.

The victim, Ernest Mignoli said: “I’m a concerned citizen, outspoken critic of Asbury Park Police Department. But this goes behind the pale. I’m constantly harassed by police wherever I go. It’s just the nature of my work.”

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/2019/09/cops-don-disguises-and-trash-cars-of-man-who-filed-complaint-against-them-in-stunning-act-of-revenge-prosecutor-alleges.html

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« Reply #4583 on: September 05, 2019, 07:27:06 PM »
If cops have "no duty to protect" the citizens they are supposed to serve and will ignore crimes or cries for help, citizens should also not be forced to help cops or be charged with a crime.

It’s no longer a crime to refuse to help a cop after Gavin Newsom signed this law

A legal vestige from California’s Wild West days is no more.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a bill striking down a law that makes it a crime to refuse a police officer’s request for help.

The California Posse Comitatus Act of 1872 made it a misdemeanor for any “able-bodied person 18 years of age or older” to refuse a police officer’s call for assistance in making an arrest.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article234664847.html

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« Reply #4584 on: September 05, 2019, 07:36:03 PM »
If cops have "no duty to protect" the citizens they are supposed to serve and will ignore crimes or cries for help, citizens should also not be forced to help cops or be charged with a crime.

It’s no longer a crime to refuse to help a cop after Gavin Newsom signed this law

A legal vestige from California’s Wild West days is no more.

Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a bill striking down a law that makes it a crime to refuse a police officer’s request for help.

The California Posse Comitatus Act of 1872 made it a misdemeanor for any “able-bodied person 18 years of age or older” to refuse a police officer’s call for assistance in making an arrest.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article234664847.html

Its a shame either of these are acceptable. I don't think a citizen should be compelled by law to aid an officer, I think they should be compelled by morals and eithics. But I do think officers should be compelled to assist citizens. Can't think of many instances where this has been an issue but I am sure Skeletor can educate me

https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html

While the ruling pertained to domestic violence it has also been used on pursuit cases where the police, determining the subject in the vehicle was not going to stop, was wanted for a misdemeanor and therefore the pursuit was called off. The suspect later continuing to drive like an idiot crashed and caused injury to others., Police were sued and the courts determined the police did the right thing, but some people interpret it as the police have no duty to protect citizens.. 

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« Reply #4585 on: September 05, 2019, 07:37:36 PM »
Another cop who sexually assaulted children gets a sweet plea deal and will not spend more than 1 year in prison...

Ex-Lansing officer charged in school sexual assaults of 3 students takes plea deal

 A former Lansing police officer accused of attempting to kiss and molest three girls in his office at Eastern and in his patrol vehicle has made a plea agreement.

Matthew Priebe pleaded no contest to second-degree criminal sexual conduct, attempted fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct, misconduct in office and two counts of assault and battery on Monday, Livingston County Prosecutor William Vailliencourt said. The youngest victim connected to the charges was 14 and the oldest was 17 at the time of the sexual assault.

In exchange for his plea, one charge of distributing sexually explicit material to a minor was dismissed.

Ingham County Prosecutor Carol Siemon recused her office due to a conflict of interest.

Vailliencourt said Priebe's sentence recommendation is not more than 12 months in jail. Once released, he will have to register as a sex offender. Priebe was taken into custody Monday, and his bond was revoked.

https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/2019/08/12/lansing-police-sex-assault-misconduct-student-molest-child-eastern-school/1989935001/

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« Reply #4586 on: September 05, 2019, 07:42:32 PM »
Criminal gangs.
(press release from notorious cop hating website)

Second Tennessee Correctional Officer Pleads Guilty to Federal Civil Rights Offense for Beating Inmate

Tanner Penwell, 22, pleaded guilty to using unlawful force on an inmate while Penwell was serving as a correctional officer with the Tennessee Department of Corrections.

“This type of behavior and violation of an inmate’s civil rights will not be tolerated,” said Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband of the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division. “The Department of Justice will continue to seek out justice on behalf of those who have had their civil rights violated.”

“Correctional officers must abide by and adhere to the same laws they take an oath to uphold and enforce. Instead of serving and protecting the public, this officer used physical force to violate the civil rights of an individual and will now be held accountable, vividly illustrating that no one is above the law,” said U.S. Attorney D. Michael Dunavant for the Western District of Tennessee.

“The FBI will vigorously investigate and bring to justice any law enforcement officer who crosses the line and engages in activity that violates the civil rights of those whose safety they are charged with,” said Bryan McCloskey, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Memphis Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. “This plea should be a reminder that wearing a badge does not make one above the law.”

With his guilty plea, Penwell admitted that, on Feb. 1, he and several other correctional officers entered the cell of R.T., an inmate in the mental health unit at the Northwest County Correctional Complex in Tiptonville, Tennessee. Penwell and the other officers entered the cell because R.T. was a suicide risk. Inmate R.T. was already bleeding when the officers entered his cell, and R.T. flung blood toward the correctional officers.

Once inside, a correctional officer looked in the direction of the surveillance camera in the cell and said, “violate the camera.” Another correctional officer then covered the camera with his hand. The correctional officer who asked for the camera to be violated then repeatedly punched R.T. Penwell estimated that this officer hit R.T. more than 20 times. When the officer stopped hitting R.T., he looked back at Penwell and said, “get him.”  Penwell stepped up and punched R.T. multiple times in the head. After Penwell stopped punching R.T., a third correctional officer punched R.T.

Throughout the time he was being punched by the correctional officers, inmate R.T. sat on the bench in the cell and only used his arms to cover his face in an apparent attempt to protect his face from the correctional officers’ punches. At no point did R.T. attempt to fight back. Penwell knew that punching R.T. was unlawful, but he did not step in to stop it. A supervisor and several correctional officers were in a position to watch as the three correctional officers punched inmate R.T., but none of them attempted to stop the officers from hitting R.T. After R.T. was punched by the officers, Penwell observed that R.T. was bleeding much more than when they had first entered the cell.

Once outside of the cell, Penwell spoke with several correctional officers and a supervisor. The supervisor said he needed to see if the camera inside the cell was working.  The supervisor and the first correctional officer who punched R.T. decided that all of the officers would falsely claim that R.T. injured himself while he was on suicide watch in the mental health unit.

The next morning, the first correctional officer who punched R.T. told Penwell that instead of falsely claiming that R.T. injured himself, as the supervisor had proposed the day before, they should both falsely blame the third correctional officer who punched R.T. for all of R.T.’s injuries. Over the next few days, the first officer who punched R.T. repeatedly told Penwell to stick to this new cover story.

With today’s guilty plea, Penwell admitted that he violated 18 U.S.C. § 242 when he repeatedly punched and injured inmate R.T. without legal justification. The maximum penalty for this civil rights offense is 10 years imprisonment.

In a related case, former Correctional Officer Nathaniel Griffin entered a guilty plea in federal court on Aug. 15. Sentencing is scheduled for Nov. 27.

This case was investigated by the Memphis Division of the FBI with the support of the Tennessee Department of Corrections, and is being prosecuted by Trial Attorney Rebekah J. Bailey of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division and Assistant United States Attorney David Pritchard of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Western District of Tennessee.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/second-tennessee-correctional-officer-pleads-guilty-federal-civil-rights-offense-beating

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #4587 on: September 06, 2019, 09:46:01 AM »
Feds Order Apple And Google To Hand Over Names Of 10,000+ Users Of A Gun Scope App

Own a rifle? Got a scope to go with it? The government might soon know who you are, where you live and how to reach you.

That’s because Apple and Google have been ordered by the U.S. government to hand over names, phone numbers and other identifying data of at least 10,000 users of a single gun scope app, Forbes has discovered. It’s an unprecedented move: Never before has a case been disclosed in which American investigators demanded personal data of users of a single app from Apple and Google. And never has an order been made public where the feds have asked the Silicon Valley giants for info on so many thousands of people in one go.

According to a court order filed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on September 5, investigators want information on users of Obsidian 4, a tool used to control rifle scopes made by night-vision specialist American Technologies Network Corp. The app allows gun owners to get a live stream, take video and calibrate their gun scope from an Android or iPhone device. According to the Google Play page for Obsidian 4, it has more than 10,000 downloads. Apple doesn’t provide download numbers, so it’s unclear how many iPhone owners have been swept up in this latest government data grab.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/09/06/exclusive-feds-order-apple-and-google-to-hand-over-names-of-10000-users-of-a-gun-scope-app

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« Reply #4588 on: September 06, 2019, 02:00:07 PM »
And another one...
As usual, he resigned before he could get fired.

Tennessee police officer admits to raping 3 women while on duty

 A Tennessee police officer has admitted to raping three women who were in his custody.

News outlets report that former Chattanooga police officer Desmond Logan reached a plea agreement Wednesday in federal court in which he also admitted to pulling a stun gun on a woman to prevent her from leaving her car. According to court documents, the 33-year-old has agreed to plead guilty to two counts of deprivation of rights. Each count carries up to 10 years in prison and $250,000 in fines.

Earlier this year, two retired Chattanooga officers were accused of helping suppress allegations against Logan. The women say they notified police, but an official probe wasn't launched until the county sheriff was notified.

Logan resigned in February before he could be fired.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2019/09/06/chattanooga-tennessee-police-officer-admits-raping-3-women-while-duty/2229976001/

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« Reply #4589 on: September 06, 2019, 02:02:24 PM »
And another one...

Florida police officer arrested on child pornography charges

A Florida police officer was arrested by the FBI Thursday on charges of possessing child pornography. Gabriel Albala, 45, of Margate, Fla. was ordered held without bond following an appearance in Fort Lauderdale federal court Friday.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-arrests-florida-cop

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« Reply #4590 on: September 06, 2019, 02:20:03 PM »
Once again taxpayers are footing the bill for roaming criminal gangs that execute people. Even this small amount cannot compensate his family for losing their loved one, but since cops don't face criminal charges and don't even pay out of their pockets, why would they care?

Stephon Clark's children to receive $2.4 million settlement from city of Sacramento

The city of Sacramento will pay $2.4 million to the children of Stephon Clark, the man shot and killed by Sacramento police officers in his grandmother's backyard last year, according to federal court documents.

The federal lawsuit was filed on behalf of Clark's two sons, his parents and his grandparents. It contended that officers used excessive force and that Clark was a victim of racial profiling. The family was seeking more than $20 million in damages. The city of Sacramento agreed to pay Clark's two sons and their attorneys a total sum of $2.4 million, court documents show. Each child will get $893,113 after attorney's fees.

The officers stated that they shot Clark, firing 20 rounds, believing that he had pointed a gun at them. Police found only a cell phone on him. According to the pathologist hired by the Clark family, Clark was shot eight times, including six times in the back. However, the Sacramento County Coroner's autopsy report concluded that Clark was shot seven times, including three shots to the right side of the back.

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/sacramento/stephon-clark-sacramento-settlement-millions

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« Reply #4591 on: September 06, 2019, 02:38:46 PM »
DMVs Are Selling Your Data to Private Investigators

Departments of Motor Vehicles in states around the country are taking drivers' personal information and selling it to thousands of businesses, including private investigators who spy on people for a profit, Motherboard has learned. DMVs sell the data for an array of approved purposes, such as to insurance or tow companies, but some of them have sold to more nefarious businesses as well. Multiple states have made tens of millions of dollars a year selling data.

Motherboard has obtained hundreds of pages of documents from DMVs through public records requests that lay out the practice. Members of the public may not be aware that when they provide their name, address, and in some cases other personal information to the DMV for the purposes of getting a driver's license or registering a vehicle, the DMV often then turns around and offers that information for sale.

The sale of this data to licensed private investigators is perfectly legal, due to the Driver's Privacy Protection Act (DPPA), a law written in the '90s before privacy became the cultural focus that it is today, but which critics believe should be changed. The DPPA was created in 1994 after a private investigator, hired by a stalker, obtained the address of actress Rebecca Schaeffer from a DMV. The stalker went on to murder Schaeffer. The purpose of the law was to restrict access to DMV data, but it included a wide range of exemptions, including for the sale to private investigators.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43kxzq/dmvs-selling-data-private-investigators-making-millions-of-dollars

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« Reply #4592 on: September 06, 2019, 07:26:42 PM »
Its a shame either of these are acceptable. I don't think a citizen should be compelled by law to aid an officer, I think they should be compelled by morals and eithics. But I do think officers should be compelled to assist citizens.
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« Reply #4593 on: September 06, 2019, 08:46:59 PM »
Its a shame either of these are acceptable. I don't think a citizen should be compelled by law to aid an officer, I think they should be compelled by morals and eithics. But I do think officers should be compelled to assist citizens. Can't think of many instances where this has been an issue but I am sure Skeletor can educate me

https://www.firearmsandliberty.com/kasler-protection.html

While the ruling pertained to domestic violence it has also been used on pursuit cases where the police, determining the subject in the vehicle was not going to stop, was wanted for a misdemeanor and therefore the pursuit was called off. The suspect later continuing to drive like an idiot crashed and caused injury to others., Police were sued and the courts determined the police did the right thing, but some people interpret it as the police have no duty to protect citizens.. 

Agree pretty much with what you say.
And as Far as Educating you - Your well aware of the endless
Horrendous reports on this thread posted by Skeletor & others
Pertaining to the activities & behaviour of criminal cops.

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« Reply #4594 on: September 06, 2019, 09:12:56 PM »
Agree pretty much with what you say.
And as Far as Educating you - Your well aware of the endless
Horrendous reports on this thread posted by Skeletor & others
Pertaining to the activities & behaviour of criminal cops.

One of the most recent court decisions about cops not having a "duty to protect" stemmed from the Parkland school shooting, and more specifically the "heroic" Coward of Broward. Point is, citizens are always at a disadvantage, they are in a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation because unlike cops they are not covered by immunities (as well as others covering up for them).

Cops and schools had no duty to shield students in Parkland shooting, says judge who tossed lawsuit

A federal judge says Broward schools and the Sheriff’s Office had no legal duty to protect students during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom dismissed a suit filed by 15 students who claimed they were traumatized by the crisis in February. The suit named six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office, as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.

“His arbitrary and conscience-shocking actions and inactions directly and predictably caused children to die, get injured, and get traumatized,” the lawsuit claimed.

Medina knew Cruz and saw him arrive on campus, but did not confront him.

Bloom ruled that the two agencies had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody.

“The claim arises from the actions of [shooter Nikolas] Cruz, a third party, and not a state actor,” she wrote in a ruling Dec. 12. “Thus, the critical question the Court analyzes is whether defendants had a constitutional duty to protect plaintiffs from the actions of Cruz.

“As previously stated, for such a duty to exist on the part of defendants, plaintiffs would have to be considered to be in custody” — for example, as prisoners or patients of a mental hospital, she wrote.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-ne-douglas-survivor-lawsuit-federal-judge-20181217-story.html


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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #4595 on: September 06, 2019, 11:51:04 PM »
One of the most recent court decisions about cops not having a "duty to protect" stemmed from the Parkland school shooting, and more specifically the "heroic" Coward of Broward. Point is, citizens are always at a disadvantage, they are in a "damned if they do, damned if they don't" situation because unlike cops they are not covered by immunities (as well as others covering up for them).

Cops and schools had no duty to shield students in Parkland shooting, says judge who tossed lawsuit

A federal judge says Broward schools and the Sheriff’s Office had no legal duty to protect students during the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School.

U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom dismissed a suit filed by 15 students who claimed they were traumatized by the crisis in February. The suit named six defendants, including the Broward school district and the Broward Sheriff’s Office, as well as school deputy Scot Peterson and campus monitor Andrew Medina.

“His arbitrary and conscience-shocking actions and inactions directly and predictably caused children to die, get injured, and get traumatized,” the lawsuit claimed.

Medina knew Cruz and saw him arrive on campus, but did not confront him.

Bloom ruled that the two agencies had no constitutional duty to protect students who were not in custody.

“The claim arises from the actions of [shooter Nikolas] Cruz, a third party, and not a state actor,” she wrote in a ruling Dec. 12. “Thus, the critical question the Court analyzes is whether defendants had a constitutional duty to protect plaintiffs from the actions of Cruz.

“As previously stated, for such a duty to exist on the part of defendants, plaintiffs would have to be considered to be in custody” — for example, as prisoners or patients of a mental hospital, she wrote.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-ne-douglas-survivor-lawsuit-federal-judge-20181217-story.html



That maybe the Legal Bollocks
Only Any Sane Rational Person Thinks That The Law Is Fucked Up.
And Badly Fucked Up.

Kids are Being Shot & Killed in School & The Police Don’t Have To Protect Them ::) ::)
What are they For Then just to Protec Each Other.

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #4596 on: September 07, 2019, 01:11:10 AM »
That maybe the Legal Bollocks
Only Any Sane Rational Person Thinks That The Law Is Fucked Up.
And Badly Fucked Up.

Kids are Being Shot & Killed in School & The Police Don’t Have To Protect Them ::) ::)
What are they For Then just to Protec Each Other.

The decision pretty much implies that they have a constitutional duty to protect the shooter that they arrested after he killed so many kids. But the cops do not have a constitutional duty to protect the kids at school from being killed! Insane.

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The suit also alleged that Peterson had remained outside the building while Cruz was inside shooting students. And the suit claimed that a Broward sheriff’s commander at the scene prevented emergency responders from entering the building to confront Cruz or help the victims.

U.S. District Judge Beth Bloom cited the 1989 Supreme Court decision DeShaney v. Winnebago County, which said that the due process clause “is phrased as a limitation on the state’s power to act, not as a guarantee of certain minimal levels of safety and security.”

The government does have a duty to protect when a person such as a prisoner is in custody, Bloom said.

But school custody doesn’t rise to a level that requires an obligation to protect, Bloom said, citing appellate precedent.

From "to serve and protect" to "no duty to protect"....

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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #4597 on: September 09, 2019, 03:46:26 PM »
Perjury? Lying to both the FBI and a federal grand jury? Of course these scumbags "sworn law enforcement officers" will lie to cover up their crimes. The victim of this violent attack happened to be an undercover cop. If the victim was just an "ordinary" person things would have been different. She's getting off lightly. The other 4 cops are still awaiting trial.

One of the messages they allegedly exchanged before the attack said: "The more the merrier! It's gonna get IGNORANT tonight!! But it's gonna be a lot of fun beating the hell out of these shitheads once the sun goes down and nobody can tell us apart!!!"

Once again: criminal gangs.

Former St. Louis Metropolitan Police Officer Pleads Guilty to Committing Perjury

Bailey Colletta, 26, a former police officer with the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department (SLMPD) pleaded guilty today in federal court in the Eastern District of Missouri to one count of making false statements to a federal grand jury about her knowledge of the arrest and assault of a fellow SLMPD police officer, who was working undercover in downtown St. Louis during protests following the 2017 acquittal of a former SLMPD officer on a state murder charge. Colletta’s co-defendants, SLMPD officers Dustin Boone, Randy Hays, and Christopher Myers, remain under indictment on federal charges related to the assault and subsequent cover-up. They have pleaded not guilty.

According to the plea agreement, in addition to facing a maximum of five years in prison, Colletta must forfeit her law enforcement certification. A sentencing date has been set for Dec. 13. The trial of Boone, Hayes, and Myers is set for Dec. 2, 2019.

This case is being investigated by the St. Louis Division of the FBI and is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Reginald Harris of the U.S. Attorney’s Office and Special Litigation Counsel Fara Gold and Trial Attorney Janea Lamar of the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division Criminal Section.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-st-louis-metropolitan-police-officer-pleads-guilty-committing-perjury

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-cop-admits-lying-to-fbi-grand-jury-about/article_6bb1bc58-80fe-5195-a790-10a394293104.html?fbclid=IwAR2aNiMPfCQva-7pxBOgMQOaO_UO8vEBZ7Fv3Rj5Es41dIspiFghyCAfaRA


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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #4598 on: September 09, 2019, 04:00:27 PM »
Perjury? Lying to both the FBI and a federal grand jury? Of course these scumbags "sworn law enforcement officers" will lie to cover up their crimes. The victim of this violent attack happened to be an undercover cop. If the victim was just an "ordinary" person things would have been different. She's getting off lightly. The other 4 cops are still awaiting trial.

One of the messages they allegedly exchanged before the attack said: "The more the merrier! It's gonna get IGNORANT tonight!! But it's gonna be a lot of fun beating the hell out of these shitheads once the sun goes down and nobody can tell us apart!!!"

Once again: criminal gangs.

Former St. Louis Metropolitan Police Officer Pleads Guilty to Committing Perjury

Bailey Colletta, 26, a former police officer with the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department (SLMPD) pleaded guilty today in federal court in the Eastern District of Missouri to one count of making false statements to a federal grand jury about her knowledge of the arrest and assault of a fellow SLMPD police officer, who was working undercover in downtown St. Louis during protests following the 2017 acquittal of a former SLMPD officer on a state murder charge. Colletta’s co-defendants, SLMPD officers Dustin Boone, Randy Hays, and Christopher Myers, remain under indictment on federal charges related to the assault and subsequent cover-up. They have pleaded not guilty.

According to the plea agreement, in addition to facing a maximum of five years in prison, Colletta must forfeit her law enforcement certification. A sentencing date has been set for Dec. 13. The trial of Boone, Hayes, and Myers is set for Dec. 2, 2019.

This case is being investigated by the St. Louis Division of the FBI and is being prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Reginald Harris of the U.S. Attorney’s Office and Special Litigation Counsel Fara Gold and Trial Attorney Janea Lamar of the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division Criminal Section.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-st-louis-metropolitan-police-officer-pleads-guilty-committing-perjury

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/st-louis-cop-admits-lying-to-fbi-grand-jury-about/article_6bb1bc58-80fe-5195-a790-10a394293104.html?fbclid=IwAR2aNiMPfCQva-7pxBOgMQOaO_UO8vEBZ7Fv3Rj5Es41dIspiFghyCAfaRA




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Re: Police State - Official Thread
« Reply #4599 on: September 09, 2019, 04:13:31 PM »
Following the death of 21 month old Killian Vanderhagen, his father, Jonathan Vanderhagen, was incensed that the child was placed in the custody of his ex-wife, who he felt was unfit, and when his child died, he began posting his criticisms of the system, and Judge Rancilo, who he felt was responsible for his child’s death, and promising, “I’m gonna dig up all the skeletons in this court’s closet.” The judge claimed to feel threatened, and referred the matter to police, who found no threat, but for "some reason" he was charged with “malicious use of telecommunications services,” and released on $2000 bond. When he continued his criticisms, his bond was revoked, and now he is sitting in jail on $500,000 bond.

It appears that judges can ignore the 1st Amendment whenever they feel like it.

Chesterfield Township man jailed on $500,000 bond for posts about Macomb County judge

A Chesterfield Township man is being held on a $500,000 bond and faces a misdemeanor trial, accused of posting implied threats to a Macomb County judge related to the death of his young son.

Jonathan Vanderhagen, 35, was arrested and jailed July 11 for posting comments and images about circuit Judge Rachel Rancilio related to his late son, Killian, who died at 21 months in September 2017 while under the care of his mother. Rancilio filed a police complaint against Vanderhagen.

https://www.macombdaily.com/news/copscourts/chesterfield-township-man-jailed-on-bond-for-posts-about-macomb/article_ac125880-d0fc-11e9-8923-33941dfbdd98.html