i personally vouch for MK too. its the best peptide ive ever tried and ive ran pretty much every GHRH and GHRP combo there is...
CJC DAC is very good too, but only in high doses (4mg+ a week).
MK677 certainly does NOT drop water though @ lurker, lol. most people gain 5-10lbs of intramuscular water within the first week on that stuff..
MK works and works damn well at just 10mg a day. at that dosage its price is IMPOSSIBLE to beat... the immediate cosmetic effects are immense.
if the GH and IGF boost really translate to significant muscle gain or fat loss over time is debatable (studies are not THAT promising), but even for the pure cosmetic enhancement its fucking awesome. if you slack on your diet youll pull water like a camel hump though.
ive ran it a couple times before, and stacked with huperzine-A / green tea extract (EGCG) it gives all the heavy sides of GH.. incredibly vivid dreams (not a good thing if you run high doses of tren, lol), numb and swollen hands (i cant even touch my palm with my thumb), CTS, that transparent skin look... and ofc water retention (if its the good or bad kind depends on diet, genetics and AAS imo).
I have never ran it before myself as I said, but the people I know say they drop bloat on it. Like HGH. They made the same comment, that MK gives HGH like effects and results.
Now I have experience with HGH a good bit. Legit Serostim and generic types (various - which I really don't even take into consideration because they paled after using Serostim). When I would run it, I didn't get a bloat. I always got more vascular. It did burn fat like nothing else I have ever used before. But I never got any bloat from it. I got the tight fists like you describe, the sore wrists and onset of tendonitis in my elbows. When my elbows got tender and gave me that "uh-oh" feeling of being sore, I knew to back off. But I never went over 3ius of Serostim a day. 3 on 1 off, 2 on 1 off (which was the standard program going around the gym with nearly everyone that was in the pro scene or getting close to cracking into the pro scene in Atlanta).
And yes, some vivid / fucked up dreams too. Not sure if they were more vivid and stranger than usual or if I just seemed to remember them more the next morning. LOL.
As I said, I stay lean year around so maybe that is why I didn't get bloat off HGH. But also like you say, everyone I know doesn't use the full dose. Instead of the 100iu mark on the measuring dropper they use (which is 25mg I beleive???), they pull it to the 40iu mark.
Maybe I should run it to compare. I have not used HGH in a couple of years so I would be in a prime condition to judge the effects and compare by.
Agree with the endurance benefits from GW-501516. Some also say it's great for fat loss, but I didn't notice that.
MT2 - great tan, but gave me LOADS of new moles. One turned out to be malignant and I had it removed. Thank god I got it checked. Did you not get new moles?
Are you sure they are NEW? Some people think they get new ones but in reality they are existing moles that were there to start with but you couldn't see them until you got darker. I never had that problem. But the first time I used it, I did have a scar on my ankle to darken. It was originally flesh colored, you had to look hard up close to see it. But it darken to look like a fresh purple color. It took a long time for it to fade back to flesh color so it was unnoticeable. About a year. Long after my body tan had faded. But I think it was because I used too much the first cycle I did. Now days, I use much less and don't have that problem at all. It never changes color. Of course, not saying it can't cause new moles, but from my experience, most people have them there to start with and just don't notice them. Like pigments of flesh colored freckles.
The first time I used it, I followed the online guide of doing a daily 1mg inject for 10 days, then EOD for 10 days. Then E3D for 10 days (a month long cycle) and starting my tanning at the 10 day mark on same day as injections occurred mark. Which would be tanning EOD the first 10 days and then E3D the last ten days.
I do NOT recommend the cycle to anyone. It was way too strong. And MT2 is very long acting. You need to stop both the MT2 use and tanning when you are 2-3 shades away from where you want to be. Because it continues to stay active in you and continue to darken you long after the last injection and tanning session. You will coast into the color you want, or coast way beyond the color you thought you wanted. Man, I looked like microwaved Brazilian beef jerky. It was way too much.
And while I admit I am not positive of this and can not state it is a fact (too lazy and just have no interest in reading studies and other pubmed type info) it is my OPINION that MT2 builds up in your system with each use. Or rather maybe I should say, your body reacts to it quicker with each cycle. I have done about 5 cycles of it - usually one per year (did miss one year though) and the one I did last year was much lighter than the year before and that year was much lighter than the previous year as well.
Last year, I did .5mg on a schedule like this :
Week 1 M & W & F : Tan Saturday 8 minutes (the longest the tanning bed at the salon goes for)
Week 2 M & TH : Tan Friday & Sunday 8 minutes each time
Week 3 M & F : Tan on Wed & Saturday for only 4 minutes each time (half exposure)
Every week after MT2 only on Wednesday : Tan Mon & Friday as needed.
Following this, I get a very dark tan that looks natural and not overcooked. I don't look orange or like burnt pine wood. Of course I live in South Florida so if I am at the beach, I do not tan or use MT2 that week at all. At this rate, a bottle (10ml @ 1mg for a total of 10mg) will last a LONG time. I usually only do half a bottle in 6-8 weeks. And save the other half of the bottle for later in the year. It is amazing how long you can store this stuff and it stays potent.