Video shows violent encounter with Dorchester County sheriff's deputy

[beakdoctor]

Yes...the kid can stand in the road or sidewalk all day and walk through neighborhoods....it's not illegal.

Police officers have to answer any and all complaints and he's free to ask questions if he wishes but the kid doesn't have to explain himself.  He also can't tell or force someone to get into a police car unless he's under investigation of a crime he may have committed or is under arrest.

Sorry but the cop fucked up

The officer had lawfully authority based on what was obviously a 911 call of harassment  (there were contextual clues that you conveniently ignored in your analysis) cops CAN detain people without probable cause. See reasonable suspicion or Terry vs. Ohio.

Kid disobeyed a lawful order, which is petty but arrestable nonetheless.

Kid then  resisted, which is definitely arrestable offense. Even when underlying probable cause is thin or even flawed.

Cop took the high road and released him instead of booking him on a trumped up charge. Whether the initial p.c. was solid or not the kid clearly resisted as evidenced by the video.

Just hope he wrote a use of force report for the take down, which was also justified. But if he didn't document it he could be liable.

People making excuses for this kids behavior is why the country is fucked.

Most people proceed from the staindpoint of an obligation to comply with the law and follow lawful orders of law enforcement.

With blacks though the standpoint is always 'were they capable of understanding the law?' When you set such a low standard expect commensurate results.

Calling this encounter 'violent ' is ridiculous.

[GymnJuice]

Seems like the kid may have had run ins with law enforcement before, and maybe in this neighborhood before. I don't think it was a random one time event from the dialogue.

[Rascal full]

Yes...the kid can stand in the road or sidewalk all day and walk through neighborhoods....it's not illegal.

Police officers have to answer any and all complaints and he's free to ask questions if he wishes but the kid doesn't have to explain himself.  He also can't tell or force someone to get into a police car unless he's under investigation of a crime he may have committed or is under arrest.

Sorry but the cop fucked up

I am in agreement with you in this instance but I have to wonder if you'd be sticking up for this kids rights if he was white?

[tommywishbone]

Two idiots.

I was wishing a garbage truck drove down the street and ran over both of the retards.

Sadly, my wish did not come true.

[visualizeperfection]

No because its a disregard of oncoming traffic....streets were empty

Pedestrian in a roadway is illegal you moron.

Stop speaking like you know what you’re talking about.

The cop not following through and arresting the kid is the only thing he did wrong.

[Megalodon]

Speaking of violence, this is kind of weird. That nursing home employee who filmed himself

punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and .......

frail elderly bed-bound White people as hard as he could in their faces, is free. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I am in agreement with you in this instance but I have to wonder if you'd be sticking up for this kids rights if he was white?

Yes, it wouldn't matter if he was white and it's happened to white kids as well

[Dave D]

Yes...the kid can stand in the road or sidewalk all day and walk through neighborhoods....it's not illegal.

Police officers have to answer any and all complaints and he's free to ask questions if he wishes but the kid doesn't have to explain himself.  He also can't tell or force someone to get into a police car unless he's under investigation of a crime he may have committed or is under arrest.

Sorry but the cop fucked up

I’m not disagreeing the cop should have handled it better. But you can’t stand in middle of the road all day. Sidewalks fine.

A drifter roaming through the neighborhood will get the John Rambo treatment.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Pedestrian in a roadway is illegal you moron.

Stop speaking like you know what you’re talking about.

The cop not following through and arresting the kid is the only thing he did wrong.

He wasn't jaywalking and the officer knew that.  Kids play in the road all the time..please

[Earl1972]

Speaking of violence, this is kind of weird. That nursing home employee who filmed himself

punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and punching and .......

frail elderly bed-bound White people as hard as he could in their faces, is free. 

too incompetent to face trial, yet competent enough to work with old disabled people

E

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The officer had lawfully authority based on what was obviously a 911 call of harassment  (there were contextual clues that you conveniently ignored in your analysis) cops CAN detain people without probable cause. See reasonable suspicion or Terry vs. Ohio.

Kid disobeyed a lawful order, which is petty but arrestable nonetheless.

Kid then  resisted, which is definitely arrestable offense. Even when underlying probable cause is thin or even flawed.

Cop took the high road and released him instead of booking him on a trumped up charge. Whether the initial p.c. was solid or not the kid clearly resisted as evidenced by the video.

Just hope he wrote a use of force report for the take down, which was also justified. But if he didn't document it he could be liable.

People making excuses for this kids behavior is why the country is fucked.

Most people proceed from the staindpoint of an obligation to comply with the law and follow lawful orders of law enforcement.

With blacks though the standpoint is always 'were they capable of understanding the law?' When you set such a low standard expect commensurate results.

Calling this encounter 'violent ' is ridiculous.

The call wasn't harassment...the call was for a suspicious person walking down the roadway which isn't illegal

The kid only became agitated and resisted because he told him to get in his car.  He had no authority to try to get him in that car or tell him to go in a certain direction.  It's an unlawful order.   Let's not forget that the officer attacked the kid, not the other way around   So what if he ran his mouth...that's not illegal unless he threatened him...and children run their mouths

BTW a Terry Stop can only be made if he is suspected of criminal activity.  This was a complaint call for a non criminal issue...again..walking in the road isnt illegal

Lawsuit , huge settlement, and getting fired

[Zillotch]

too incompetent to face trial, yet competent enough to work with old disabled people

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not an employee... Jadon Hayden was placed in that nursing home so that he could spread the 'rona'.

Charges dismissed against COVID patient who assaulted senior citizen in nursing home

https://www.wxyz.com/news/charges-dismissed-against-covid-patient-who-assaulted-senior-citizen-in-nursing-home

'His father said it was at the University of Michigan Hospital in Ann Arbor where Jadon was then diagnosed with COVID-19. He said that's when the 20-year-old who had dreams of becoming a boxer was sent to the nursing home to recover.

Bledsoe (victim) died in another nursing facility two months after the assault. His death was not ruled a homicide.'

[epic is back]

This cop handled it well. Also solid physique.

he should quit his job now, if he wants to outmuscle any little skinny thug on the streets

should have joined the military if he wants to fuck shit up

he is mentally weak and got baited

[visualizeperfection]

He wasn't jaywalking and the officer knew that.  Kids play in the road all the time..please

This is a variation of the “he was a good boy, he dindu nuffin’”

[epic is back]

Cop is an idiot and when he realized that he fucked up, he let him go home but its too late and that lawsuit is going to hurt

A police officer cannot drive up on someone and tell him to get in a squad car without due process.   Unless he's in the commission of a criminal act.  He also can't tell someone that he's not allowed to walk in a neighborhood.  He can walk where he likes as long as its not on someone's property

shut up honky

[epic is back]

The call wasn't harassment...the call was for a suspicious person walking down the roadway which isn't illegal

The kid only became agitated and resisted because he told him to get in his car.  He had no authority to try to get him in that car or tell him to go in a certain direction.  It's an unlawful order.   Let's not forget that the officer attacked the kid, not the other way around   So what if he ran his mouth...that's not illegal unless he threatened him...and children run their mouths

BTW a Terry Stop can only be made if he is suspected of criminal activity.  This was a complaint call for a non criminal issue...again..walking in the road isnt illegal

Lawsuit , huge settlement, and getting fired

if you showed up in my neighborhood you would be taken out so fast you would lose weight from all the cardio

[beakdoctor]

The call wasn't harassment...the call was for a suspicious person walking down the roadway which isn't illegal

The kid only became agitated and resisted because he told him to get in his car.  He had no authority to try to get him in that car or tell him to go in a certain direction.  It's an unlawful order.   Let's not forget that the officer attacked the kid, not the other way around   So what if he ran his mouth...that's not illegal unless he threatened him...and children run their mouths

BTW a Terry Stop can only be made if he is suspected of criminal activity.  This was a complaint call for a non criminal issue...again..walking in the road isnt illegal

Lawsuit , huge settlement, and getting fired

Walking in the roadway is a violation level offense in most municipalities and can be a misdemeanor if he's impeding traffic. The officer gave him a lawful order. In the video the cop even says he was called becUse the kid was harrassing people.

The cop 'attacked' the kid. Oh brother. He was very clear that he was going to arrest him and took out his cuffs and went to cuff his wrist. Thats not an attack and you sound ridiculous characterizing it as such. The way you aggravate the cops intentions and mitigate the kids conduct is not objective which is the standard how force is evaluated.

So once again, even if the underlying p.c. is thin its illegal to resist arrest, which is what the kid did.

Terry stops are based on readonable suspicion not probable cause. There are so many ways to articulate this. Will the department have to pay out money? Potentially.
Thats a civil suit and a different legal standard: preponderance of the evidence. It has nothing to do with whether or not the stop was lawfull or if the use of force violates the graham standard- which it doesn't.  Cop performed a take down on a person engaged in physical resistance.  That is proportional and a relatively low level of force. The kid got up unharmed so you have a hard time proving injury/damages. Unfortunately you think you know more about the law than you actually do which makes this a fairly pointless exercise. A prime example of Dunning-Krueger.

[lightweight83]

Whenever I see a video like this, I thank god I live in an area that's 99% white! LOL!

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Walking in the roadway is a violation level offense in most municipalities and can be a misdemeanor if he's impeding traffic. The officer gave him a lawful order. In the video the cop even says he was called becUse the kid was harrassing people.

The cop 'attacked' the kid. Oh brother. He was very clear that he was going to arrest him and took out his cuffs and went to cuff his wrist. Thats not an attack and you sound ridiculous characterizing it as such. The way you aggravate the cops intentions and mitigate the kids conduct is not objective which is the standard how force is evaluated.

So once again, even if the underlying p.c. is thin its illegal to resist arrest, which is what the kid did.

Terry stops are based on readonable suspicion not probable cause. There are so many ways to articulate this. Will the department have to pay out money? Potentially.
Thats a civil suit and a different legal standard: preponderance of the evidence. It has nothing to do with whether or not the stop was lawfull or if the use of force violates the graham standard- which it doesn't.  Cop performed a take down on a person engaged in physical resistance.  That is proportional and a relatively low level of force. The kid got up unharmed so you have a hard time proving injury/damages. Unfortunately you think you know more about the law than you actually do which makes this a fairly pointless exercise. A prime example of Dunning-Krueger.

 Part of being a detention officer is booking people into intake so we have review everything before they get locked up.  So i know what im talking about.  The officer could only detain him if the neighbor filed a criminal complaint....telling a cop that some kid is harassing him only allows questioning and the kid is under no obligation to answer him 

But lets just put everything to rest...if a police officer drove up to you and told you to get into a police car....would you do it??   Didnt think so. 

The officer had every right to question him but once determined that he was not involved in any criminal actuvity and didnt have any outstanding warrants,  he should have drove away.   There is no resisting arrest because the officer went after him ...or were you not paying attention to the video??   He can't arrest him because there was nothing to charge him with.....nothing.  So what if he's running his mouth?? 

The officer didnt have thr temperence for the job

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Walking in the roadway is a violation level offense in most municipalities and can be a misdemeanor if he's impeding traffic. The officer gave him a lawful order. In the video the cop even says he was called becUse the kid was harrassing people.

The cop 'attacked' the kid. Oh brother. He was very clear that he was going to arrest him and took out his cuffs and went to cuff his wrist. Thats not an attack and you sound ridiculous characterizing it as such. The way you aggravate the cops intentions and mitigate the kids conduct is not objective which is the standard how force is evaluated.

So once again, even if the underlying p.c. is thin its illegal to resist arrest, which is what the kid did.

Terry stops are based on readonable suspicion not probable cause. There are so many ways to articulate this. Will the department have to pay out money? Potentially.
Thats a civil suit and a different legal standard: preponderance of the evidence. It has nothing to do with whether or not the stop was lawfull or if the use of force violates the graham standard- which it doesn't.  Cop performed a take down on a person engaged in physical resistance.  That is proportional and a relatively low level of force. The kid got up unharmed so you have a hard time proving injury/damages. Unfortunately you think you know more about the law than you actually do which makes this a fairly pointless exercise. A prime example of Dunning-Krueger.

Walking in the roadway is only illegal if you are impeding traffic...street was clear and the whole country would be locked up if just walking in the roadway was illegal.   If a car pulled up and honked him and he refused to get out of the road, then he would be impeding traffic

It was a bad decision by the officer...very bad.  Should have drove away

[Royalty]

The chicken shit who called the cops should have argued with the kid. And they should have only called the cops if the kid had committed a crime. It’s not a policeman’s job to “argue”. He is not an attorney.

It’s obvious that the cop did not want to be there. He was in a lose-lose situation.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The chicken shit who called the cops should have argued with the kid. And they should have only called the cops if the kid had committed a crime. It’s not a policeman’s job to “argue”. He is not an attorney.

It’s obvious that the cop did not want to be there. He was in a lose-lose situation.

He definitely  wasnt in a lose/lose situation.  Once the kid said he was headed back to his apartment and didnt need any help or was in commision of a crime, he should have wrote up a report and drove away like every other police officer.

Yea, the neighbor who made the call should be chastised for making the call but its an officers job to resolve or settle the issue. 

[visualizeperfection]

Chocolate Faces just don’t listen.

And when they do, the brain overheats much too quickly.

Computations halt immediately, beyond, say, pulling a trigger or chomping down on fried chicken.

No sense. Zero perspective.

Brains creaking along, barely able to sustain even life-enabling functions.

That’s one take.

Another is that this young man had never had a real man discipline him. I think a respectable authority figure telling him what to do and how to behave caused the system to crash.

[20inch calves]

I think the cop was good up to the point he should have followed through with the arrest. He cuffed him...he should have taken him in

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I think the cop was good up to the point he should have followed through with the arrest. He cuffed him...he should have taken him in

I agree... was going to get fired anyway....may as well bring him in and embarrass yourself even more to your poc.