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He should hang up the gloves and don a thong
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Hes an overated over hyped clown who tries to portry a goody 2 shoes image where hes really a drug dealing piece of shit who was known to bully people in North London as he was growing up.
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Anthony Joshua: goody 2 shoes, drug dealing piece of shit, who was known to bully people in North London as he was growing up.
This should have been the thread title...
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Hes an overated over hyped clown who tries to portry a goody 2 shoes image where hes really a drug dealing piece of shit who was known to bully people in North London as he was growing up.
Antonhy Jousha will be the next heavyweight world champion and he is going to dominate the heavyweight division for many years to come just like the Klitshko.
Anthony Jousha is the real deal, and he will KO with ease that fat bloated white bum of Tyson Fury whenever they are going to fight !
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He's suffering from Lat Spreader Syndrome. :-*
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He should hang up the gloves and don a thong
Just because he is wider than Heath? I don't think that is enough. You also need to have a wide throat to swallow all the pride you have left to strut around on stange in one of those raisin slingers.
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Just because he is wider than Heath? I don't think that is enough. You also need to have a wide throat to swallow all the pride you have left to strut around on stange in one of those raisin slingers.
He's about 1.5 Heaths wide, but I'm a little worried about his Hammer Strength pressing power. He just doesnt look like a 5 plate pusher to me.
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darren
what happened to your mate who was going to dominate the division?
Its just its been a year now and he's, how do I put it, done absolutely fuck all.
has he shit out of it after realising he couldn't box kippers?
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James Stabler
you were touting him 2 and a half years ago
in that time AJ has remained undefeated and looks well.
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He's pretty untouchable at the moment, amazing athlete.. He won a show in UK called superstars, different olympic medalists had to compete against each other different events, stamina and power even at his advanced weight nearly 18st these days
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Ihave no idea what happened to Stabler?
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Stabler got sent down for a 5 stretch last i heard, also heard some rumblings he was hammering the shit out of Joshua in the gym a while back. Genuine thug, loves to fight. I watched a programme on Joshua tonight that made me think he isnt who he makes out to be, just in the way he was talking to people and coming across.
Anyway HW boxing has had it, WW is the place to be right now.
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Hes an overated over hyped clown who tries to portry a goody 2 shoes image where hes really a drug dealing piece of shit who was known to bully people in North London as he was growing up.
of course he was a bully who the fuk was gonna put him in his place he was probably at the age of 13 6'2 200lbs lol
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of course he was a bully who the fuk was gonna put him in his place he was probably at the age of 13 6'2 200lbs lol
Theres always someone out there. Imagine him pissing off Lenny Mclean, his pretty face would be bitten and broken up.
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Theres always someone out there. Imagine him pissing off Lenny Mclean, his pretty face would be bitten and broken up.
Anthony Jousha would ko that old fat fuck of Lenny Mclean with one punch and send him brain dead to a retirement home !!!
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Looks untouchable against bums so far. Will be interesting to see how he copes when his competition improves. UK fans tend to over-hype their prospects.
Remember David Price and how he was going to destroy Wlad? LOL. :D ;D
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I was fully behind Price and riding the hype train. His cardio was somewhat appalling, his power was getting him places quickly. Joshua is a more technical fighter but i still believe we will see Price rise like a phoenix again. Not gonna be world number 1, but still think he would take Fury out.
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I was fully behind Price and riding the hype train. His cardio was somewhat appalling, his power was getting him places quickly. Joshua is a more technical fighter but i still believe we will see Price rise like a phoenix again. Not gonna be world number 1, but still think he would take Fury out.
I'd favour Fury over Price tbh. Fury may not be great but people underrate him as they dislike him as a person. However, he's actually pretty decent in terms of ability and has more toughness (both mental and physical) than Price.
Price is as fragile as glass and doesn't have a defence that compensates for it.
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I'd favour Fury over Price tbh. Fury may not be great but people underrate him as they dislike him as a person. However, he's actually pretty decent in terms of ability and has more toughness (both mental and physical) than Price.
Price is as fragile as glass and doesn't have a defence that compensates for it.
Fury has a horrible style... He and price are very chinny, AJ is a real athlete but as ever we wont realy know till he steps up
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Fury has a horrible style... He and price are very chinny, AJ is a real athlete but as ever we wont realy know till he steps up
Fury is sloppy at times but he adapts better than Price and has shown he can go 12 rounds. His chin isn't great but its better than Price who goes down everytime he's clipped.
AJ is a great athlete but that doesn't' automatically equate to a great boxer. His Olympic gold was more down to hometown judging than anything. He could become a dominant champion or he could not. It's too early to tell.
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Fury is sloppy at times but he adapts better than Price and has shown he can go 12 rounds. His chin isn't great but its better than Price who goes down everytime he's clipped.
AJ is a great athlete but that doesn't' automatically equate to a great boxer. His Olympic gold was more down to hometown judging than anything. He could become a dominant champion or he could not. It's too early to tell.
You cant deny he moves well in the ring, got all of style and class to go with his power..but as we all no, I counts for nothing if you cant take a punch
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You cant deny he moves well in the ring, got all of style and class to go with his power..but as we all no, I counts for nothing if you cant take a punch
Yeah, he moves well and has power but I'd expect him to be KO'ing the guys he's fought. His next opponent is Kevin Johnson who knows how to survive so I'd like to see how AJ deals with him.
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I would have more confidence in his ability to fight if he was from The United States.
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I would have more confidence in his ability to fight if he was from The United States.
You guys got Wilder. Maybe in a few years there will be a UK Vs US battle between AJ and DW for the belts?
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He's a heavyweight? Looks to be about 160
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He's a heavyweight? Looks to be about 160
He's 6'6.... In real life he's huge, he boxes at around 250 , ripped...
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Being a "real athlete" don't make you a true fighter.
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darren
I used to know sean murphy who trained him as an amateur
sean was a decent pro and lost a world title fight to steve robinson so knows his onions
he said he saw more in a year out of AJ than he has seen in any fighter in terms of taking to it like a duck to water
he only started boxing in 2007 and won the senior ABA's in under 3 years in his 18th amateur fight
you may not like him as a bloke but there is no doubting his talent.
what I will say is this- stabler won't even get near to getting a round sparring with him. each month Josh is training and looking after himself stabler is doing nothing. the gap will grow wider. the difference between someone who can knock people out at a club or a low ranking MMA contest is streets apart from even a journeyman pro boxer in the ring.
your 'hero' the uber bully lenny Mclean got sparked by george langley. who?? exactly. the main reason people done the unlicenced is for quick money when they aren't good enough at boxing. dominic negus for example lost to audley harrison and was meant to be a decent unlicensed fighter. but he lost to audley.
as I say a world of difference.
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completely agree
when I lived in London I used to be pally with trevor currie- aka hughroy currie. he was for a spell the British HW pro champ. He worked the door of the 2 brewers and the copper field in catford and a few boozers in dept ford. one night a group of pikes came in looking for bother and started trying to bully people as is their want.
trevor said to us- hold these doors open- I held open the double doors and it was like watching a hypnotist put people to sleep. 6 or 7 of them and the rest didn't want to know. he had just turned 50 at the time. but it was painfully easy.
a week later the pikeys sent their big man round. he lasted one meaningful punch then 'gave best'. i.e. gave up. from then on they moved onto another boozer.
my point being this was a decent pro at the age of 50. I can only imagine what he would have done 20 years previous. I was an ok amateur boxer. the club i was at had pro's and from time to time you'd get the chance to do some light sparring. suffice to say I knew after a few of these sessions that I didn't have a hope in hell of turning pro. it was men versus boys. for this reason I have massive respect for any pro boxer regardless of level. its a different fucking world.
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completely agree
when I lived in London I used to be pally with trevor currie- aka hughroy currie. he was for a spell the British HW pro champ. He worked the door of the 2 brewers and the copper field in catford and a few boozers in dept ford. one night a group of pikes came in looking for bother and started trying to bully people as is their want.
trevor said to us- hold these doors open- I held open the double doors and it was like watching a hypnotist put people to sleep. 6 or 7 of them and the rest didn't want to know. he had just turned 50 at the time. but it was painfully easy.
a week later the pikeys sent their big man round. he lasted one meaningful punch then 'gave best'. i.e. gave up. from then on they moved onto another boozer.
my point being this was a decent pro at the age of 50. I can only imagine what he would have done 20 years previous. I was an ok amateur boxer. the club i was at had pro's and from time to time you'd get the chance to do some light sparring. suffice to say I knew after a few of these sessions that I didn't have a hope in hell of turning pro. it was men versus boys. for this reason I have massive respect for any pro boxer regardless of level. its a different fucking world.
Well said, all the old 'names' from up tho end were British level pros or higher level amatures and they ruled, can you imagine how good you have to be actual world class, different levels...
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I sparred with a well known boxer from our city as he was rising up his early pro days. He was doing the last round of a 15 round sparring session.
He looked so easy to hit.
I couldn't get near him.
His speed in and out was scary and his movement was deceptive. it was like a dance- everything I tried he countered or I landed on his gloves. He lost in a world title contest to a famous boxer. Different league completely.
Local hero you are bang on- The likes of hagler/ lewis/ ray leonard / chavez. supremely talented hard hard bastards.
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If Trevor Currie with all due respect to him could do that what would Tyson or Liston or Foreman do. :o
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Don't believe the hype with this guy until he is tested. He has fought a long string of bum journey men.
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There is a lot of talk on the interweb that Stabler and AJ have sparred and Stabler got the better of him, apparently someone at Dale Youth witnessed this. It was on boxingforum24 or checkhookboxing.
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darren dead right about trevor!
that sort of brought it home to me massively.
he said the hardest puncher he ever sparred with was bruno. by a mile apparently. headaches even with a headboard. it always made me laugh when people would say 'i'd get in the ring with tyson for 20mill'. you wouldn't. you'd spend it all on carers and nappies.
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Chris Eubank Jr apparently dominates everyone in sparring but has yet to fully look the part against quality opposition in the ring. I believe he will come good, just needs more time.
Herol Graham was literally untouchable, embarrassed Eubank Sr for a week and was caught with 1 punch on the last session. Benn openly stated he would never have gotten in there with him because he would have been swiping at thin air, its my belief he is the best boxer to never gain a world title. He is best remembered for the punch he took from The Hawk - IMO the lb for lb hardest puncher boxing ever had - and not for the 4 round demolition he gave to him when the fight was seconds away from being stopped.
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I sparred with a well known boxer from our city as he was rising up his early pro days. He was doing the last round of a 15 round sparring session.
He looked so easy to hit.
I couldn't get near him.
His speed in and out was scary and his movement was deceptive. it was like a dance- everything I tried he countered or I landed on his gloves. He lost in a world title contest to a famous boxer. Different league completely.
Local hero you are bang on- The likes of hagler/ lewis/ ray leonard / chavez. supremely talented hard hard bastards.
do you know the devil G
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The Frenchman, bad bad guy back in the day. I know a few people who mixed in those circles back in the 80s and they said he was the real deal, scariest guy you could meet.
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The Frenchman, bad bad guy back in the day. I know a few people who mixed in those circles back in the 80s and they said he was the real deal, scariest guy you could meet.
G probably knows him
I watched a documentary about him called the tax man
seems the allegation is he turned and is wanted on several lists
if you catch my drift
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the julian jackson punch is one of the most shocking of all time haha, Herol was out before he even hit the canvas. I met herol graham before, he's a funny guy, still a bit mental though. In his book he talks about sparring Roberto Duran and pissing him off so much by all his slipping and running antics, that Duran took a meltdown and had him thrown out the gym.
The punchers like benn, jackson, shavers etc, these were the guys i always tried to emulate as a young boxer, it made for some pretty funny amateur bouts.
thats quite a list, all 3 absolute power punchers with Shavers being God & Jackson the Archangel Julian. Benn was a huge banger but i dont think he was near Jackson or even McClellan for raw power.
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G probably knows him
I watched a documentary about him called the tax man
seems the allegation is he turned and is wanted on several lists
if you catch my drift
yeah hes labelled a grass now, but then hes lost his closest to guns so you wouldnt blame him to the anti-gun campaigns. As far as the grassing, depends on what it is. Hes been both sides of the fence & is known to be wanted dead, as hes inside nows the ideal time. If he can still go, they better go at him mob handed.
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completely agree
when I lived in London I used to be pally with trevor currie- aka hughroy currie. he was for a spell the British HW pro champ. He worked the door of the 2 brewers and the copper field in catford and a few boozers in dept ford. one night a group of pikes came in looking for bother and started trying to bully people as is their want.
trevor said to us- hold these doors open- I held open the double doors and it was like watching a hypnotist put people to sleep. 6 or 7 of them and the rest didn't want to know. he had just turned 50 at the time. but it was painfully easy.
a week later the pikeys sent their big man round. he lasted one meaningful punch then 'gave best'. i.e. gave up. from then on they moved onto another boozer.
my point being this was a decent pro at the age of 50. I can only imagine what he would have done 20 years previous. I was an ok amateur boxer. the club i was at had pro's and from time to time you'd get the chance to do some light sparring. suffice to say I knew after a few of these sessions that I didn't have a hope in hell of turning pro. it was men versus boys. for this reason I have massive respect for any pro boxer regardless of level. its a different fucking world.
which of these dudes is currie?
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Nigel Benn ex RR Fusiliers Army Boxer. British Army Boxing is the best.
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Jackson's definitely one of the greatest punchers of all time, along with shavers, but i dont think benn get's enough credit for his punching power alone. I think the ring magazine's got him somewhere stupid on their list of 100 greatest punchers, but they've based it off of the KO's and TKO's recorded on a guy's record which means that they've ranked guys with a lot of late stoppages, and accumlative punch KO's over long careers, higher than some real, one punch KO artists.
Benn wasn't the greatest boxer in the world, so against the highest competition he didn't look quite as impressive, but just for sheer one punch, put you unconscious power, there's not that many that i would rank higher...Jackson i do though! Mclellan i don't speak of because i hate him with a passion!
Im not a fan of McLellan purely down to the piece of shit human being he was. I try not to be judgemental to people i dont know personally but the things he did, i have no sympathy for his current circumstances. As a power puncher Benn was right up there, Jackson was all by himself IMO.
Underrated power punchers - Bruno tops my list. So heavy handed and yet hes remembered for the Tyson defeats. Throw in Herbie Hide also, serious KO artist.
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Frank seems like a genuine guy, perhaps a little too nice to be considered a great. Had the punch, had the appearance but was just an absolute gentleman that needed an evil streak or killer instinct tp take him further than he went. Saying that, WBC HW champ of the world is nothing to balk at ;D
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Boxing training is the hardest training in the world. You train your body to take punishment and dish it out. I loved it.
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Away from his public image and the cameras, Bruno had a bit of a bully boy attitude. I can remember him once putting Chris Eubank in his place and you could see his dark side.
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I think Bruno was a direct reflection of Shavers in that regard. Had all the power in the world, had a great physique but lacked that true killer instinct & gassed early. The hardest hitters dont always get to be champion (Malignaggi anyone) but theyre usually the most exciting to watch. Unless you get a freak puncher like Jackson or even Hamed ;D
Eubank needed that at times, he was an obnoxious POS (i loved it). As he got older he returned the favour with Hamed.
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I think Bruno was a direct reflection of Shavers in that regard. Had all the power in the world, had a great physique but lacked that true killer instinct & gassed early. The hardest hitters dont always get to be champion (Malignaggi anyone) but theyre usually the most exciting to watch. Unless you get a freak puncher like Jackson or even Hamed ;D
Eubank needed that at times, he was an obnoxious POS (i loved it). As he got older he returned the favour with Hamed.
I loved eubank
but he never threw at hundred percent after the Watson fight
when he had that Wharton on the ropes he stopped throwing complaining to the ref to stop it
the guy was a gent
amazing chin and heart of a lion
the first fight with benn was spine tingling
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I loved eubank
but he never threw at hundred percent after the Watson fight
when he had that Wharton on the ropes he stopped throwing complaining to the ref to stop it
the guy was a gent
amazing chin and heart of a lion
the first fight with benn was spine tingling
This to a tee, this is the gospel of Chris Eubank Sr. He was a savage before Watson, afterwards he just wanted to get through the fight without inflicting serious damage to his opponents. I loved sitting down with my dad and watching him on ITV as a kid, he had everything. Nigel Benn on the other hand didnt give 2 shits about Mclellan living as a veg or dying, absolutely stone cold towards the damage he could do back then.
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Yeah i can't even speak of that prick Mclellan without getting genuinely angry...same with michael vick! Good call on Bruno and Hide! I once got to box for frank bruno on a charity night of his and he was an absolute legend. Came in before hand to chat and wish us luck, then spoke to me for a bout 20 minutes after, no cameras or nothing, just me and him and he was just genuinely interested and down to earth.
A LOT OF CANINE LOVERS F A G G O T S IN THIS THREAD !!!
THIS IS FOR YOU, A GERALD MCLELLAN TRIBUTE : "THE SCARIEST MIDDLEWEIGHT IN HYSTORY" !!! :)
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MORE FROM THE G. MAN (ONE OF MY FAVORITE FIGHTER OF ALL TIME) !!! :'(
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ok bit by bit
the frenchman
was part of Liverpool FSK under Alfie Lewis. that door firm was double talented. frenchie, andy boyce, AJ prior to getting slotted, wayne benoni, peter o'para- they used to do amongst other places plummers and macmillans in town, and hardmans. they were all backed up by gary spiers- easily the hardest man i've ever known.
is frenchie a grass?
in my opinion writing a book about your exploits makes you a grass. in his book he mentions a black dealer from crocky- everyone knows there is only one black lad in crocky who has ever moved weight in anything. so he may as well have named him. also his links to curtis are nowhere near as close as he made out. curtis and johnny phillips were heavy but they would work with alfie and co as back up. a formidable L8 firm in fairness. with showers and co they had it all. until they fell out with the fitzies and the Ungi's and then it all fell apart. that whole graft has never got back to that level.
frenchie is getting on now. but what I will say is this- I trained at alfie's for a few years and it was pretty much a conveyor belt of fighters. I think one year the WAKO GB team had 16 members of which 12 were from Liverpool FSK. frenchie was one of the most formidable fighters in there. and when not training he was tying dealers to chairs and taking their dough. and doing it pretty much unopposed. the lad who sort of took over from him years later has just got sent down a few months back for a shooter in manny. he was mates with jason Osu who got slotted who's brother sonny is widely believed to.......... have been involved in a situation above.
with steven french-
one thing I will say is if you are going to take it to him use a shooter from a distance. despite all the grass claims left right and centre when he is out of nick he doesn't hide. the youth in L8 claim he is nothing but he's not hard to find and yet....... nothing. also he was with some bird whose arl fella was in the real thing- if anyone wanted to they could go after the amoo's and get at him that way- they haven't and there is a reason for that.
also lets be honest at a level you are either informing or you are paying for info off the odd squad. no two ways up about it. some of the biggest lies in criminality are that nobody grasses and that everyone keeps their mouths shut. nonsense.
josh- trevor was the lad getting levelled there.
as for mclellan- pure scum- well in nigel benn- worth 1000 of gm's type.
shavers- up until a few years back was working the door of Yates' in Queens Square. fair to say even at his age problems were few and far between.
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Loved the way Benn came back from being punched out of the ring to seal McLellans fate. A heart of a true warrior.
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Gary Spiers - the man whos myths dont even measure up to the truth! The perfect street fighting machine. Think of that guy in the movies that never loses: think any Seagal charater - this was him. Considered to be the best by the best, the hardest by the very hardest.
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What about Billy Griffiths from Liverpool?
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I agree 100% mate.
brutally effective
I'd rate it as him then frankie brennan and then terry o'neill in that order. all three a different league.
alfie lasted 30 seconds against frankie brennan in an straight go. and alfie killed a bloke with a single dig and won numerous world titles.
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Im assuming grasses means "snitch" or "rats"?
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Every boxing thread about uk boxers always turns into who was the hardest local thug ::)
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yes mate- informant
often referred to as a midnight
from midnight mass / grass
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fair point local hero
back on topic
kell brook- good or bluffer? discuss
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By the way Anthony Joshua is about to whoop some ass this weekend !!! ;)
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fair point local hero
back on topic
kell brook- good or bluffer? discuss
Kell brook will give any welter a good fight, carrys alot of power and is very neat.., fun time Franky is a lazy pig and should be fighting at least one or two divisions lower, I cant understand why boxers give good weight away, you shouldn't have an ounce of flab on you in the lower classes
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You already know my loyalty to Brennan, but better than O'Neill? Never seen that side of Sensei.
On topic, i believe the division is Brooks for the taking. Once Mayweather retires i dont see Manny beating him, Khan wont get in the ring with him never mind fight him. That leaves Thurman. Huge banger, i think Kell has that little bit more in regards to skill and would take him the distance & get the decision.
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its a fair test for him
we'll know soon enough if he has made the transition from decent amateur to decent pro after this fight
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just my opinion GCD
as for brook- I quite like him. he and khan would be a good one but i doubt it will happen. still toying with getting the fight tomorrow
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I think Brook will steamroll Frankie, the card as a whole looks ok but no major upsets for the offering there IMO. Khan could have caused alot of problems for Floyd with his speed but to bottle it publicly the way he did has done him no favours at all.
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I think its a weak pay for view, Hearn is being a bit cheeky... But I'm in this weekend, so no doubt I'll stump up for it
I half hope no one buys it, for me ppv's were for Tyson v Lewis type fights, not mandatory/domestic fights
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A lot of Northerners, well North Easterners I know say Lee Duffy would have smashed up Spiers. Thoughts?
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A lot of Northerners, well North Easterners I know say Lee Duffy would have smashed up Spiers. Thoughts?
Lee Duffy, Viv Grayham all boxers who never went very far.... Why do you idolise these people?
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Hes an overated over hyped clown who tries to portry a goody 2 shoes image where hes really a drug dealing piece of shit who was known to bully people in North London as he was growing up.
You clearly know some Bad stuff about him Darren
Care to elaborate.
I am aware he has done some time, don't know what for.
He certainly carries himself well & talks good on camera.
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just my opinion GCD
as for brook- I quite like him. he and khan would be a good one but i doubt it will happen. still toying with getting the fight tomorrow
I would love to see khan vs brook
khan has mayweather blinkers on looking at a 50 mill plus pay day
I think if he gets that fight he might fight brook at one of the outdoor stadiums in Yorkshire
I think khan schools brook technically with brook having a decent punchers chance
great fight
I also think khan has the speed to hit mayweather and I think mayweather knows that and might duck him
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Carl Thompson could bang. His comeback against Sebastian Rothman was absolutely amazing.
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Carl Thompson could bang. His comeback against Sebastian Rothman was absolutely amazing.
and david haye that fight was crazy
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You have to give David haye thumbs up for fighting Thompson so early in his career, I had him down as another audry Harrison before that
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Lee Duffy, another myth for which there was alot of truth yet alot of bullshit. Plain and simple, a really hard man but a ruthless bully that got his comeuppance. Same could be said of Tony Sinnott in Liverpool. Lots of debate as to who would actually win between Duffy & Cockerill as you cant trust anyones BS when it comes to self glorifying street cred, i just know i wouldnt want to have gotten into it with either man. From what ive gathered, both guys would have hammered Viv Graham.
Carl Thompson, theres a name i havent talked about for a while. Known as "The Hardman" to some people, hell of a banger & yeah that comeback was exceptional. 1 punch with nothing left in the tank.
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Lee Duffy, another myth for which there was alot of truth yet alot of bullshit. Plain and simple, a really hard man but a ruthless bully that got his comeuppance. Same could be said of Tony Sinnott in Liverpool. Lots of debate as to who would actually win between Duffy & Cockerill as you cant trust anyones BS when it comes to self glorifying street cred, i just know i wouldnt want to have gotten into it with either man. From what ive gathered, both guys would have hammered Viv Graham.
Carl Thompson, theres a name i havent talked about for a while. Known as "The Hardman" to some people, hell of a banger & yeah that comeback was exceptional. 1 punch with nothing left in the tank.
unfortunately a lot of the "hard" guys were bullies
there are a couple round notts way that bang people out for looking at them the wrong way or for any other trivial reason they can think off
cant respect a mind set like that
one of my mates is mustard well respected across the whole area
never seen him be anything other than polite and respectful to every one
civilians and grafters
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True mate, there are not alot of named fighters i know that arent bullies. Some of the worst i ever came across were the McAllisters of Aberdeen. Absolute pieces of shit.
Lee, known as "The Aberdeen Assassin" is in the Scottish boxing HOF for winning 2 world titles, i say that as straight faced as i can because they were the WBU & WBF version against guys ranked around 200 in the world ;D Hes a joke, very skilled and fast but his old man was rumoured to pay off guys to boost his record at the Ballroom. One of the happier times i can recall was seeing John Murray fold him in half with a left to the body.
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sinnott was a horrible fucking bully of a man
he opened a lad up the day before his wedding day over a late ounce debt. across the grid so his pics would show what happened
duffy versus spiers.
sorry but duffy was no doubt tasty. spiers was in a different league
he wasn't some raided up doorman beaked up- he lived to do his job- security and teach people. there as an interview in fighting arts that terry o neil did- if you can find it read it
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Lee Duffy, Viv Grayham all boxers who never went very far.... Why do you idolise these people?
I just love all their bums
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Gary Spiers V Cain Valasquez?
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Gary Spiers is dead so Cain would win that one.
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unfortunately a lot of the "hard" guys were bullies
there are a couple round notts way that bang people out for looking at them the wrong way or for any other trivial reason they can think off
cant respect a mind set like that
one of my mates is mustard well respected across the whole area
never seen him be anything other than polite and respectful to every one
civilians and grafters
Tends to be the norm for blokes that are the real I am.
Was good friends with a man who was top dog in our area for a long time and he was one of the nicest blokes you could ever meet and would do anything for you.
He hated bullies and those were the only people he ever started shit with, he'd always seek out a know bully and batter them, but people could drink and have a laugh with him and do the sort of shit to him that most blokes would Kick off over, someone even set his hair on fire one day and he laughed it off.
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I would love to see khan vs brook
khan has mayweather blinkers on looking at a 50 mill plus pay day
I think if he gets that fight he might fight brook at one of the outdoor stadiums in Yorkshire
I think khan schools brook technically with brook having a decent punchers chance
great fight
I also think khan has the speed to hit mayweather and I think mayweather knows that and might duck him
Brook's timing is far superior to that of Khan's and technically one of the best in the UK!
he's got a classic Ingle schooling behind him!
Khan still has a habit of moving in straight lines with his feet lagging behind - Devon Alexander was piss poor that night and while Khan was impressive it was more a case of Devon under-performing than Khan putting on a world class performance.
he should have made easier work of Algieri last night, was far from a top level performance and Brook would have taken advantage all day.
not only that, but the difference in power and accuracy between the two is substantial. what Khan has in his favour is punch speed and volume but that means nothing if you're constantly being out-timed and worked on at all angles like Brook and especially FMW would do.
he can call out FMW all he wants, after last nights performance Brook is more deserving of a shot than Khan for a unification fight (should Brook impress vs Gavin which he will)
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I think its a weak pay for view, Hearn is being a bit cheeky... But I'm in this weekend, so no doubt I'll stump up for it
I half hope no one buys it, for me ppv's were for Tyson v Lewis type fights, not mandatory/domestic fights
he'd argue that there's 3 world title fights with 3 of the top domestic talents taking part in them with another top talent in Joshua co-headlining in his toughest fight but i agree mate, you can't have a main event of Brook vs Gavin and fucking charge a score to watch it!
Selby vs the Russian isn't deserving of ppv status and could argue Brook vs Gavin isn't either.
Mitchell vs Lonares should be fight of the night but again not enough to make this a PPV.
should have been shown on sky, i'd be shocked if they earn the kinda money they're expecting to from PPV sales.
i reckon Lonares will get the win and i think Selby may struggle as well.
Joshua to make easy work of Johnson and Brook to do the same with Gavin - both early stoppages i think
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Brook's timing is far superior to that of Khan's and technically one of the best in the UK!
he's got a classic Ingle schooling behind him!
Khan still has a habit of moving in straight lines with his feet lagging behind - Devon Alexander was piss poor that night and while Khan was impressive it was more a case of Devon under-performing than Khan putting on a world class performance.
he should have made easier work of Algieri last night, was far from a top level performance and Brook would have taken advantage all day.
not only that, but the difference in power and accuracy between the two is substantial. what Khan has in his favour is punch speed and volume but that means nothing if you're constantly being out-timed and worked on at all angles like Brook and especially FMW would do.
he can call out FMW all he wants, after last nights performance Brook is more deserving of a shot than Khan for a unification fight (should Brook impress vs Gavin which he will)
I think motivation was an issue for khan last night
his best performances alexander and maidana were against real top opposition
brook hasn't thought someone as quick as khan
I agree he moves in and out in straight lines
but he throws in bunches and is often gone before he gets tagged
no doubt his chin will get tested against brook though and might be found wanting
the two possible outcomes are khan on points or brook by knockout
mayweather wont fight khan not for his last fight
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You already know my loyalty to Brennan, but better than O'Neill? Never seen that side of Sensei.
On topic, i believe the division is Brooks for the taking. Once Mayweather retires i dont see Manny beating him, Khan wont get in the ring with him never mind fight him. That leaves Thurman. Huge banger, i think Kell has that little bit more in regards to skill and would take him the distance & get the decision.
completely agree, Thurman and Brook to take over the welter div. soon enough.
people are looking too much into Virgil Hunter coaching Khan, Brandon Gonzalez maybe Hunter's best bet outside of Ward and little ole' Jim McDonald's boy DeGale embarrassed him.
Khan can switch as many coaches as he wants, won't make a blind bit of difference when he steps up the levels. has habits he'll revert back to when in trouble.
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I think motivation was an issue for khan last night
his best performances alexander and maidana were against real top opposition
brook hasn't thought someone as quick as khan
I agree he moves in and out in straight lines
but he throws in bunches and is often gone before he gets tagged
no doubt his chin will get tested against brook though and might be found wanting
the two possible outcomes are khan on points or brook by knockout
mayweather wont fight khan not for his last fight
you reckon FMW and Cotto for his last one then mate? its one of the two, reckon it will be Cotto myself but at catch rather than 147.
Maidana lost to Alexander too, upped his game considerably against FMW in the first but generally neither of those two were at their best against Khan imo and even then, they're not at the level of Brook/Thurman either.
also Porter > Devon/Maidana.
Alexander has some serious rebuilding to do, to be fair Khan against Maidana was his best performance.
surely Brook and Khan in a Wembley sell out is on the cards if FMW goes down the Cotto route. now that would be a PPV worth buying!
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you reckon FMW and Cotto for his last one then mate? its one of the two, reckon it will be Cotto myself but at catch rather than 147.
Maidana lost to Alexander too, upped his game considerably against FMW in the first but generally neither of those two were at their best against Khan imo and even then, they're not at the level of Brook/Thurman either.
also Porter > Devon/Maidana.
Alexander has some serious rebuilding to do, to be fair Khan against Maidana was his best performance.
surely Brook and Khan in a Wembley sell out is on the cards if FMW goes down the Cotto route. now that would be a PPV worth buying!
yeah the cotto fight makes more sense
especially in the states
the only other fight that makes sense for khan is brook
I think it will be at one of the Sheffield stadiums as they are both Yorkshire boys
hopefully they might double it up with groves and mr arrogant
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yeah the cotto fight makes more sense
especially in the states
the only other fight that makes sense for khan is brook
I think it will be at one of the Sheffield stadiums as they are both Yorkshire boys
hopefully they might double it up with groves and mr arrogant
think Khan is from Lancs mate, Bolton i think it was?
Brook Yorkshire though, Sheffield.
depends if they can do the numbers mate, 90k Wembley capacity plus its the capital - be looking to match Froch Groves i reckon but maybe Old Trafford more realistic. local to them as well, Manc boxing fans are manic so would make more sense.
Sheffield stadiums won't hold the capacities they're bound to target especially with Hearns/Heyman doing the work.
didn't even cross my mind that - double header of Brook Khan and Groves DeGale! good shout!
if they can triple up with Frampton and Quigg that would be a historic UK card!
Joshua and Price too much to ask on that? lol
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THE NEW KING OF HEAVYWEIGHT IS COMING TO TAKE THE THRONE !!! ;)
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No one can touch Joshua, I think he could chin the top 3 on the same night..
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THIS OTHER BRIT (KELL BROOK) WILL DOMINATE THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION AFTER MAYWEATHER JR. RETIRES !!!
AND YES...KELL BROOK IS MUCH BETTER THAN KIETH THURMAN !!! ;)
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THIS OTHER BRIT (KELL BROOK) WILL DOMINATE THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION AFTER MAYWEATHER JR. RETIRES !!! ;)
AND YES...KELL BROOK IS MUCH BETTER THAN KIETH THURMAN !!!
Kahn wont fight him, when kell beats him its the end of his career as Élite... He can loose to mayweather and still keep face..
Only welter to beat brook is money...
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AJ has yet to fight a serious competitor, the division as a whole is pathetic. Johnsonwas on a downward spiral of losses and coming off a 13 month layoff, how exactly was this supposed to go other than the way it did? Im still not convinced of him being the new Lennox Lewis, let him fight someone thats can fight back and isnt a can or old.
Amir "Jester" Khan better ante up soon, Kell will take the moniker of King and we all know there will only ever be 1 Prince in boxing.
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AJ has yet to fight a serious competitor, the division as a whole is pathetic. Johnsonwas on a downward spiral of losses and coming off a 13 month layoff, how exactly was this supposed to go other than the way it did? Im still not convinced of him being the new Lennox Lewis, let him fight someone thats can fight back and isnt a can or old.
Amir "Jester" Khan better ante up soon, Kell will take the moniker of King and we all know there will only ever be 1 Prince in boxing.
Price crumbled when he moved to this level, aj didn't brake a sweat... He was never going to loose, but this fella has done the distance with the big names
He made a statement tonight, other than klitchko who could give him a fight right now?, wilder maybe... He will walk through frury..
I think it will be price or chisora end of summer, with same outcome
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BUT THIS WAS THE BEST FIGHT OF THE NIGHT !!!
LINARES VS MITCHELL
ENJOY !!! :)
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Price crumbled when he moved to this level, aj didn't brake a sweat... He was never going to loose, but this fella has done the distance with the big names
He made a statement tonight, other than klitchko who could give him a fight right now?, wilder maybe... He will walk through frury..
I think it will be price or chisora end of summer, with same outcome
Thats the problem with the division, there are no exceptional fighters aside from Wlad to really test him. I was thinking Chisora next, but hes nothing now. Price is doing his thing trying to improve his record overseas, Fury is a joke altogether and would be murdered by Wlad, Wilder & AJ.
I think the best test would be against Wilder, see just how good he really is.
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THIS OTHER BRIT (KELL BROOK) WILL DOMINATE THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION AFTER MAYWEATHER JR. RETIRES !!!
AND YES...KELL BROOK IS MUCH BETTER THAN KIETH THURMAN !!! ;)
Beating up white boys in Europe to pad his record and strong enough to HOLD off Porter's bull rush style by a 1 - 2 point decision. I like Kell but he's stiff up top like most Euro fighters. Thurman and Spence defeat him at some point but he'll make Hearns some money before than. It's lights out at 154 if his body grows out of 147.
I believe FMW could beat him vs lara, andrade or thurman but he unloaded the belts to stay away from the debate or potential fight. Khan gets starched with in 5 rounds.
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Beating up white boys in Europe to pad his record and strong enough to HOLD off Porter's bull rush style by a 1 - 2 point decision. I like Kell but he's stiff up top like most Euro fighters. Thurman and Spence defeat him at some point but he'll make Hearns some money before than. It's lights out at 154 if his body grows out of 147.
I believe FMW could beat him vs lara, andrade or thurman but he unloaded the belts to stay away from the debate or potential fight. Khan gets starched with in 5 rounds.
Kell Brook won 9 rounds out of 12 against Porter !!!
That fight was not even close !!!
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Beating up white boys in Europe to pad his record and strong enough to HOLD off Porter's bull rush style by a 1 - 2 point decision. I like Kell but he's stiff up top like most Euro fighters. Thurman and Spence defeat him at some point but he'll make Hearns some money before than. It's lights out at 154 if his body grows out of 147.
I believe FMW could beat him vs lara, andrade or thurman but he unloaded the belts to stay away from the debate or potential fight. Khan gets starched with in 5 rounds.
Brooke is in no way shape or form.a stand up stiff euro fighter, it shows your knowledge of boxing is laughable
Non of the fighters from.the ingle gym come under that banner, bomber Grayham, prince naseem, johny nelson etc etc
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Kell Brook won 9 rounds out of 12 against Porter !!!
That fight was not even close !!!
Brook came on late but those early rounds were swing, and he didn't throw a lot of punches vs hugging. 7-5 at best.
Brooke is in no way shape or form.a stand up stiff euro fighter, it shows your knowledge of boxing is laughable
Non of the fighters from.the ingle gym come under that banner, bomber Grayham, prince naseem, johny nelson etc etc
they'll make the fight at some point. when he leaves that right hanging, thurman will catch up. chaves loads and shoots his right faster than brook. thurman will deal with him.
;D
what were the odds on this fight? did hearn have brook carry him because they had money on the books? no combos, just sparring and finish him in the 6th. was the over 5.5? rounds.
HEARN WANT' TO FIGHT THURMAN IN EARLY SEPT BUT THURMAN FIGHTS IN JULY. LOL
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AHAHAHA he beats an old git on a losing streak who hasn't fought for 13 months and people are orgasming. Right im gonna tell a ceetain someone to get his arse in gear and go KO this FRAUD.
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Thats the problem with the division, there are no exceptional fighters aside from Wlad to really test him. I was thinking Chisora next, but hes nothing now. Price is doing his thing trying to improve his record overseas, Fury is a joke altogether and would be murdered by Wlad, Wilder & AJ.
I think the best test would be against Wilder, see just how good he really is.
this sums it up
there are less than ten good fighter world wide in the heavy weight division
the kid last night threw about two jabs the whole fight
aj stands very upright he looks susceptible to uppercuts and straight rights down the pipe
I haven't seen him hit yet
I can see why they are babying through like they did with Bruno
but he needs to fight a banger
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It was a good performance from AJ but damn, I actually think this may have been the first time Johnson had even been in a boxing ring for 13 months. Clearly hadn't trained at all.
Would like to see Brook against Khan next.
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darren
I thought you hadn't seen stabler or knew what he's been up to?
AJ is doing fine. See if your mate can win another tomato can exhibition. No matter what happened tonight you'd hate him. If you don't like his for taking people do you like
Tyson?
Jack Johnson?
Stabler (also did time)
Did AJ once tax you? I fail to see the reason for the hate other than jealousy / a spurned advance to roll around the mats with you.
Either way AJ has a career and its progressing. Stabler doesn't. He's the uncrowned king of youtube.
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AHAHAHA he beats an old git on a losing streak who hasn't fought for 13 months and people are orgasming. Right im gonna tell a ceetain someone to get his arse in gear and go KO this FRAUD.
After each win your reaction will be the same, if and when he beats klitchko in the future , klichko would have been washed up etc
If he hugged men on the floor would you find him more attractive?
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After each win your reaction will be the same, if and when he beats klitchko in the future , klichko would have been washed up etc
If he hugged men on the floor would you find him more attractive?
I would love to see him against vladamir
vlad has been put on his arse by guys that don't hit like aj
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Wlad will be retired before AJ is ready to fight him. The guy's 39 now and probably has only 2 fights left.
As things stand, AJ would get embarrassed. Too big step up in class too soon.
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That's what I suspect too. Hayes been talking about making a comeback these days. heavyweight boxing is not great but there's some potential fights down the line that will make for good viewing.
I think if Haye was coming back he would have already done so by now. He just lost his hunger after getting owned by Wlad. Shame really because I think a fit and motivated Haye beats Fury, Wilder and AJ.
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I think if Haye was coming back he would have already done so by now. He just lost his hunger after getting owned by Wlad. Shame really because I think a fit and motivated Haye beats Fury, Wilder and AJ.
Absolutely. I think an aggressive Haye would catch Wlad eventually, i was so disappointed by his showing. I know its only a few seconds long but theres video footage of him schooling Wilder in sparring. No reason to believe this wouldnt happen in a fight.
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Absolutely. I think an aggressive Haye would catch Wlad eventually, i was so disappointed by his showing. I know its only a few seconds long but theres video footage of him schooling Wilder in sparring. No reason to believe this wouldnt happen in a fight.
No, I don't think Haye beats Wlad but beats Wilder, AJ and Fury.
Wlad will beat Haye 9 times out of 10. Haye was fit for that fight but gave the toe excuse because his ego couldn't handle the fact he had been schooled.
Wilder just looks very wild and reckless at times. His power and athleticism makes him dangerous though, bit like AJ in that regard although AJ looks a little more composed.
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haye isn't coming back
although he is on the bones of his arse
he promised a lot of people a lot of things in dubai and his cheques for his gym project have gone tits up and bounced. in short if he goes back to dubai without settling them he's in nick straight away.
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one thing for certain though is the pressure is on Hearn to really step up Joshua and push on Brook now because there's no chance people will continue to follow AJ putting down another bum and no chance Brook is going to be taken seriously stateside facing the likes of JoJo Dan and Gavin,
in serious risk of bringing down his stock because the only name on his record remains Porter.
he really needed to build on that and not go the opposite direction which he's doing facing the likes of Gavin. Hearns just milking it as long as he can, this was an easy pay day for him -
Johnson didn't command the kinda payday Chisora and others would and posed nowhere near the risk Price and Areola would but was still marketed to sell tickets because they overly played on the ploy of him never being stopped by Vitali, Fury etc
easy wins for AJ and Brook and easy money for Hearns.
has to be Chisora or Price next for AJ and no doubt it will be Chisora because Price is probably too much of a risk and will probably be Rios next for Brook i think.
should have been Brook facing Algieri instead of Khan a few nights ago but wasn't a big enough pay out for Hearns, domestic PPV more money - needed him headlining the 02.
worst thing is i genuinely believe Brook and Thurman are the best outside of FMW and after Porter Brook should have been positioned for some big US fights, potentially FMW for September but been horribly handled by Hearns.
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I agree with most of what you said, altho I rate chisora over price.... Price will be destroyed in 1 or 2 rounds by AJ
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haye isn't coming back
although he is on the bones of his arse
he promised a lot of people a lot of things in dubai and his cheques for his gym project have gone tits up and bounced. in short if he goes back to dubai without settling them he's in nick straight away.
hadn't heard that
I always thought he would go in to acting
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I agree with most of what you said, altho I rate chisora over price.... Price will be destroyed in 1 or 2 rounds by AJ
Chisora is more durable than Price and can go rounds but Price I think will provide the bigger threat to AJ and would be the riskier fight. It depends on what type of fight they are looking for.
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Chisora is more durable than Price and can go rounds but Price I think will provide the bigger threat to AJ and would be the riskier fight. It depends on what type of fight they are looking for.
I want aj to knock the head off fury
like put his lights out in the first round
chisora is tough and durable but struggles with big technical heavyweights
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I want aj to knock the head off fury
like put his lights out in the first round
chisora is tough and durable but struggles with big technical heavyweights
Fury I think will fight Wlad next. He'll get stopped in 6-8 rounds and might even retire afterwards. Wilder will probably become AJ's biggest rival in the post Klitschko era.
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Aj is on roids too stiff i would kill him great fake muscle though
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Fury I think will fight Wlad next. He'll get stopped in 6-8 rounds and might even retire afterwards. Wilder will probably become AJ's biggest rival in the post Klitschko era.
I like wilder he is a class act
think aj is too big for him
I have an irrational hate of fury I cant get past
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I like wilder he is a class act
think aj is too big for him
I have an irrational hate of fury I cant get past
A lot of people seem to hate Fury. :D
I actually don't mind the guy. Seems quite affable at times and I even think his boxing ability is under-rated.
He just doesn't have the natural athleticism and power of AJ though.
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BUT THIS WAS THE BEST FIGHT OF THE NIGHT !!!
LINARES VS MITCHELL
ENJOY !!! :)
Fucking Linares always getting dropped or cut , with a little bit better defense , he could have been one of the best ever.
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Brooke is in no way shape or form.a stand up stiff euro fighter, it shows your knowledge of boxing is laughable
Non of the fighters from.the ingle gym come under that banner, bomber Grayham, prince naseem, johny nelson etc etc
I've been telling you guys this for years , he doesn't understand boxing , all his ''knowledge'' come from boxrec and esnews , without the internet G-thong is fucking clueless , actually even with the internet he is clueless .
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Never back peddle wen fighting a tall man u will get killed
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Never back peddle wen fighting a tall man u will get killed
X2 , It's impossible to beat a tall man.
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roy gumbs is out there training people I think at the moment
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X2 , It's impossible to beat a tall man.
when confronted by midgets my laughter is often sufficient to shame them in to defeat
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when confronted by midgets my laughter is often sufficient to shame them in to defeat
Haha yes , every time I fought a tall dude I lost , I knew I was going to lose even before the fight started .
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Erm Tyson was a "little man."
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Haha yes , every time I fought a tall dude I lost , I knew I was going to lose even before the fight started .
the big guy must have had a hard cut
I have them in at least one weight class apart
before rehydration
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Great thread gentlemen,though I`m not privvy to all the British and Euro boxers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,one thing I will say is that Wilder stinks as a pro and won`t last too long once he fights a real fighter unlike Stivern who would have beaten him if he had any fucking heart at all.
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Stabler is turning pro January 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just found out!!
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cracking that
at that time he will be 29 years old, 4 years older, 2 inches shorter, 6 inches less reach, 20 lbs of muscle lighter and about 15 fights behind AJ without anything resembling amateur pedigree.
he doesn't even look great on the pads. seriously- I think he has dominic negus mark 2 all over him.