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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #175 on: August 09, 2008, 04:39:47 PM »
If you have not been saved by the time you die then yes, I believe you will be separated from God for eternity.  God will be in heaven, you will be in hell.

And in regard to if you committed "The Unforgivable Sin,"  please check this thread out when you have time:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=227955.0



Awesome! Now, can you kindly tell me where heaven and hell are located?
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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #176 on: August 09, 2008, 08:08:18 PM »
That doesn't sound very Christian to me.

Are you seriously making your believes dependent on whether certain scientific interpretations of the bible fit today's scientific findings?
If he is going to ruin other peoples faith because he sees them rejoicing in their own happiness just because he is empty inside then it would be better for others that he did not exist. I was only speaking this way to get my point across, of course I don't want him to jump off a building, nor do I wish him any sufferment what so ever, in fact I would gladly go out of my way to teach him regarding the Bible if he wishes. There is a difference when someone doesn't believe in God versus someone who doesn't believe in God and spends a fraction of his day trying to convince people to not believe and has signs of hatred, we know this because he mocks and makes fun.

I am not making believes based on science, but I truly feel that no science has proved the Bible wrong in any way to date and for a recorded scriptures to add up to well over a million words and not have a provable flaw is a feet that copuld not be duplicated in a billion years. If there is mistakes in the Bible then lets here them right now, yes this is a challange.

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #178 on: August 09, 2008, 08:24:40 PM »
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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #179 on: August 09, 2008, 09:28:05 PM »
must I go through with this with everybody every single day, my grammer isn't going to get any better and yes I know it sucks :)

You should try to improve it.  :)

Or watch porn. Lol.

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #180 on: August 09, 2008, 10:26:45 PM »
You should try to improve it.  :)

Or watch porn. Lol.
I'll pass, but thanks for the advise :)

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #181 on: August 10, 2008, 01:26:42 AM »
If he is going to ruin other peoples faith because he sees them rejoicing in their own happiness just because he is empty inside then it would be better for others that he did not exist. I was only speaking this way to get my point across, of course I don't want him to jump off a building, nor do I wish him any sufferment what so ever, in fact I would gladly go out of my way to teach him regarding the Bible if he wishes. There is a difference when someone doesn't believe in God versus someone who doesn't believe in God and spends a fraction of his day trying to convince people to not believe and has signs of hatred, we know this because he mocks and makes fun.

How could he ever ruin other people's faith? If anything you should be glad that he's there to show you how strong your faith is. If he could manage to ruin someone's faith that easily, that someone's faith wasn't worth anything in the first place anyway.

I am not making believes based on science, but I truly feel that no science has proved the Bible wrong in any way to date and for a recorded scriptures to add up to well over a million words and not have a provable flaw is a feet that copuld not be duplicated in a billion years. If there is mistakes in the Bible then lets here them right now, yes this is a challange.

The question is, does it matter if science would prove the Bible wrong - scientifically? Every legitimate scientist of today will tell you that certain parts of the bible, if interpreted scientifically, are wrong. Of course there will always be fundamentalist motivated counter theories, but in the end, that's a futile battle.

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #182 on: August 10, 2008, 03:26:20 AM »
must I go through with this with everybody every single day, my grammer isn't going to get any better and yes I know it sucks :)

Indeed, you are a sterling exemplar of Christian apologetics.
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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #183 on: August 10, 2008, 09:51:34 PM »
Indeed, you are a sterling exemplar of Christian apologetics.

Delete all posts from anyone that is a self-proclaimed God killer as their only goal is to tear down peaceful existence between the nations!

P.S. Especially if they perpetuate the beliefs of certain Fascist Austrian-born German politicians.

The world needs to rid itself of this evil mindset and the distruction left in it's wake!

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #184 on: August 11, 2008, 04:21:29 AM »
Delete all posts from anyone that is a self-proclaimed God killer as their only goal is to tear down peaceful existence between the nations!

P.S. Especially if they perpetuate the beliefs of certain Fascist Austrian-born German politicians.

The world needs to rid itself of this evil mindset and the distruction left in it's wake!

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You are the fascist here, imploring the mods to practise censorship of ideas.

Why are you making references to Hitler? Is he a personal hero of yours? He was a devout Christian after all who loved censorship....

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #185 on: August 11, 2008, 04:42:34 AM »
Is he a personal hero of yours? He was a devout Christian after all who loved censorship....

He wasn't devout, he was on and off.

He appeased both atheism and Christians depending on the social requirements at the given time.

My personal guess is that he believed in a God, but somehow saw himself as acting on providence.
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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #186 on: August 11, 2008, 04:53:14 AM »
He wasn't devout, he was on and off.

He appeased both atheism and Christians depending on the social requirements at the given time.

My personal guess is that he believed in a God, but somehow saw himself as acting on providence.

I was just pointing to the silliness of making an allusion to Hitler. I have never referenced him or made mention of him so it just seems silly.
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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #187 on: August 11, 2008, 08:27:12 AM »
Delete all posts from anyone that is a self-proclaimed God killer as their only goal is to tear down peaceful existence between the nations!

P.S. Especially if they perpetuate the beliefs of certain Fascist Austrian-born German politicians.

The world needs to rid itself of this evil mindset and the distruction left in it's wake!

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how come you wont answer my questions ?

why is there evil? didnt god create ALL?

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #188 on: July 30, 2009, 07:12:47 PM »
Bump. 

Necrosis I don't think you ever answered this question.  What is the scientific theory for the origin of life on earth? 

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #189 on: July 30, 2009, 07:51:01 PM »
Bump. 

Necrosis I don't think you ever answered this question.  What is the scientific theory for the origin of life on earth? 

i have posted autocatalytic theory before. read about it.

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #190 on: July 30, 2009, 08:28:29 PM »
i have posted autocatalytic theory before. read about it.

So your belief in how life on earth originated is based on a computer program? 

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #191 on: July 30, 2009, 08:50:11 PM »
So your belief in how life on earth originated is based on a computer program? 

what's yours based on?A book?
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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #192 on: July 31, 2009, 03:52:27 AM »
what's yours based on?A book?

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #194 on: July 31, 2009, 06:55:07 AM »
So your belief in how life on earth originated is based on a computer program? 

no it is the integration of many theories. self replicating peptides have been demonstated. It combines basic abiogenesis into a possible working model

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

The studies have been more refined and now 22 amino acids can be made, which can from peptides of small proteins then on and on. It is not 100% exact and is very complex stuff but there is alot of evidence for it.

I dont believe this, i look at the evidence and see it is plausible, while it could be wrong. What evidence do you have?

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #195 on: July 31, 2009, 11:00:02 AM »

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #196 on: July 31, 2009, 11:03:52 AM »
no it is the integration of many theories. self replicating peptides have been demonstated. It combines basic abiogenesis into a possible working model

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

The studies have been more refined and now 22 amino acids can be made, which can from peptides of small proteins then on and on. It is not 100% exact and is very complex stuff but there is alot of evidence for it.

I dont believe this, i look at the evidence and see it is plausible, while it could be wrong. What evidence do you have?

Where did the "self replicating peptides" originate?  How did they get here? 

I'm not trying to ask "gotcha" questions.  My belief in how life originated on earth is clearly faith based.  I think any theory about how life originated is faith based.  I'm unaware of any scientifically based/proven explanation for the origination of life on earth.  That's really what I'm asking about. 

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #197 on: July 31, 2009, 11:08:14 AM »
Where did the "self replicating peptides" originate?  How did they get here? 

I'm not trying to ask "gotcha" questions.  My belief in how life originated on earth is clearly faith based.  I think any theory about how life originated is faith based.  I'm unaware of any scientifically based/proven explanation for the origination of life on earth.  That's really what I'm asking about. 

there is no consensus, its a very difficult field like cosmology. The big bang prevails but it could be wrong. We can try to re create the conditions of early earth and run the experiments in the lab, we have formed most of the essentials of life in the lab, time is the key variable we cannot manipulate much.

either way you are just going to keep asking how did that get there, which is not even a correct question.

It likely came from the elements that formed the planet and universe, which forms inorganic and organic compounds.

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
« Reply #198 on: July 31, 2009, 11:19:58 AM »
there is no consensus, its a very difficult field like cosmology. The big bang prevails but it could be wrong. We can try to re create the conditions of early earth and run the experiments in the lab, we have formed most of the essentials of life in the lab, time is the key variable we cannot manipulate much.

either way you are just going to keep asking how did that get there, which is not even a correct question.

It likely came from the elements that formed the planet and universe, which forms inorganic and organic compounds.

Why isn't it a correct question? 

At the end of the day, it sounds like you have a faith-based belief in how life originated.  It definitely isn't scientific, which requires:  (1) observation; (2) hypothesis formulation; (3) prediction; and (4) testing of predictions.

This isn't a criticism of you or anyone else.     

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Re: The Origin of Life on Earth According to the Theory of Evolution
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