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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: tommywishbone on November 13, 2012, 10:39:08 PM
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My friend, " This photo (the one below) was taken in October, 1980. Ed Conners flew myself, Bob Reis, and Charles down for this picture. I believe it was just for a Gold's Gym promo-memrobilia shot. It was a fun day. The thing I remember most about this day was Mike and Ray Mentzer's 2/12 hour back workout with Denny Miloy at the same time they were promoting "The Heavy Duty training philosophy". This was basically 20 minutes tops per bodypart, forced and negative reps/ super intense- like 3 movements max- 2 sets each. Let's just say the workout they performed that afternoon, wasn't exactly like the book. I actually teased Mike about this in early 91' when he guest posed for us in the Nor Cal. I remember, he looked at me and said it was just a break in their normal routine. I don't think he appreciated my inquiry.
My friend, "It was a fun afternoon. They couldn't get Lou off Santa Monica Blvd. talking to passer bys. The Mentzer's had just finished a 2 1/2 hour back workout after having heavily promoted their new " Heavy Duty Training Principles" book, which was 20 minutes per bodypart with forced and negative reps. Short and sweet/ very intense. Those days were the best. Ken Waller was an animal. I wish Casey Viator was in the pic. He was the first guy I ever saw training there, and he was a beast. 365 smith machine inclines slow and controlled."
Also: "This was Santa Monica Gold's. The Mecca. 2nd and Santa Monica. Robert Blake owned the building next to the old Pussycat theater. I never saw Baretta down there though. They must have been current on their rent. "
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The Mentzer's had just finished a 2 1/2 hour back workout after having heavily promoted their new " Heavy Duty Training Principles" book, which was 20 minutes per bodypart with forced and negative reps.
those books really make it look so appealing. they make great sense scientifically.
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Cool pic man. The good ol' days. Wish I was old enough then.
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The Mentzer bros always have that dense look to the muscle, most other pros in the pic look very bloofy
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Mentzer=surname of Germanic orgin TOPS
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Cool pic man. The good ol' days. Wish I was old enough then.
back then guys like you had to use a separate bath room ;D
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My friend, " This photo (the one below) was taken in October, 1980. Ed Conners flew myself, Bob Reis, and Charles down for this picture. I believe it was just for a Gold's Gym promo-memrobilia shot. It was a fun day. The thing I remember most about this day was Mike and Ray Mentzer's 2/12 hour back workout with Denny Miloy at the same time they were promoting "The Heavy Duty training philosophy". This was basically 20 minutes tops per bodypart, forced and negative reps/ super intense- like 3 movements max- 2 sets each. Let's just say the workout they performed that afternoon, wasn't exactly like the book. I actually teased Mike about this in early 91' when he guest posed for us in the Nor Cal. I remember, he looked at me and said it was just a break in their normal routine. I don't think he appreciated my inquiry.
My friend, "It was a fun afternoon. They couldn't get Lou off Santa Monica Blvd. talking to passer bys. The Mentzer's had just finished a 2 1/2 hour back workout after having heavily promoted their new " Heavy Duty Training Principles" book, which was 20 minutes per bodypart with forced and negative reps. Short and sweet/ very intense. Those days were the best. Ken Waller was an animal. I wish Casey Viator was in the pic. He was the first guy I ever saw training there, and he was a beast. 365 smith machine inclines slow and controlled."
Also: "This was Santa Monica Gold's. The Mecca. 2nd and Santa Monica. Robert Blake owned the building next to the old Pussycat theater. I never saw Baretta down there though. They must have been current on their rent. "
See Arnold has moved on to make his millions and left all the weirdos behind. Just isnt the same without him as the central focal point
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My friend, " This photo (the one below) was taken in October, 1980. Ed Conners flew myself, Bob Reis, and Charles down for this picture. I believe it was just for a Gold's Gym promo-memrobilia shot. It was a fun day. The thing I remember most about this day was Mike and Ray Mentzer's 2/12 hour back workout with Denny Miloy at the same time they were promoting "The Heavy Duty training philosophy". This was basically 20 minutes tops per bodypart, forced and negative reps/ super intense- like 3 movements max- 2 sets each. Let's just say the workout they performed that afternoon, wasn't exactly like the book. I actually teased Mike about this in early 91' when he guest posed for us in the Nor Cal. I remember, he looked at me and said it was just a break in their normal routine. I don't think he appreciated my inquiry.
My friend, "It was a fun afternoon. They couldn't get Lou off Santa Monica Blvd. talking to passer bys. The Mentzer's had just finished a 2 1/2 hour back workout after having heavily promoted their new " Heavy Duty Training Principles" book, which was 20 minutes per bodypart with forced and negative reps. Short and sweet/ very intense. Those days were the best. Ken Waller was an animal. I wish Casey Viator was in the pic. He was the first guy I ever saw training there, and he was a beast. 365 smith machine inclines slow and controlled."
Also: "This was Santa Monica Gold's. The Mecca. 2nd and Santa Monica. Robert Blake owned the building next to the old Pussycat theater. I never saw Baretta down there though. They must have been current on their rent. "
do you have the biggest neck in that pic? ;D
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=447910.0;attach=492012;image)
Amazing how all these guys had their hair and look like respectable human beings..
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I keep hearing from various guys that watched Mentzer and Viator train. They said Viator trained with a lot of volume yet all you hear from the high intensity crowd is about HIT. Mentzer is the same thing. Mentzer wasn't a volume guy but he was seen lifting with more sets than what he wrote about. Maybe it was warm up sets? I know Yates use to warm up sometimes with a couple of easy sets prior to his one work set.
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very good time in bodybuilding back then, guys did it cause they loved it-not cause of the money
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I keep hearing from various guys that watched Mentzer and Viator train. They said Viator trained with a lot of volume yet all you hear from the high intensity crowd is about HIT. Mentzer is the same thing. Mentzer wasn't a volume guy but he was seen lifting with more sets than what he wrote about. Maybe it was warm up sets? I know Yates use to warm up sometimes with a couple of easy sets prior to his one work set.
he trained with less volume than others at that time
later he found out that even less volume and frequency were required for best possible results through training his clients (who were mostly natties) throughout the 1990's
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he trained with less volume than others at that time
later he found out that even less volume and frequency were required for best possible results through training his clients (who were mostly natties) throughout the 1990's
Can you tell me what routine Mentzer had for natties? Anything online?
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Can you tell me what routine Mentzer had for natties? Anything online?
he had 3 routines
the 1st was 3 times a week on a push/pull/legs split
the 2nd was once every 4 days on a chest+back/legs/delts+arms/legs split
the 3rd was once a week: 1st workout dips and deads and 2nd workout 7 days later chins or pulldowns and squats
here's a good site where you can find lots of his work
http://www.highintensity.net/Forums/Forums.asp
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Nice, thanks dj :)
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Waller looks enormous though the Mentzers' compact look beats all.
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he trained with less volume than others at that time
later he found out that even less volume and frequency were required for best possible results through training his clients (who were mostly natties) throughout the 1990's
I followed everything he wrote and I still have a album of almost every article that came out that he wrote. I have the first article ever featured on Mike Mentzer. In the 70's I trained according to what he wrote. His training changed through his competitive years. He first used a whole body routine using a lot of Nautilus but with some conventional equipment. Then he went to a four day a week routine. He split his body in half training body parts twice a week. The split was on day one: legs, chest and triceps. Day two was back, delt and biceps. Usually training Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday though he didn't believe in using the days of the week. From there he went to three days a week using the same split. A body part got hit once or twice a week on a rotation. The routines he came out with when he retired was something he never did when he competed. It was really convenient to see clients once a week for 20 minutes.
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i ordered the heavy duty mentezer pamphlets back in 79 or 80, i wish i still had them. that type of training really hurt my joints n ligaments though
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My friend, " This photo (the one below) was taken in October, 1980. Ed Conners flew myself, Bob Reis, and Charles down for this picture.
Are you in this picture? Where's Bob Reis? My old friend Richard Slaney is in the pic. He was married to Mary Decker sometime early 80's.
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I followed everything he wrote and I still have a album of almost every article that came out that he wrote. I have the first article ever featured on Mike Mentzer. In the 70's I trained according to what he wrote. His training changed through his competitive years. He first used a whole body routine using a lot of Nautilus but with some conventional equipment. Then he went to a four day a week routine. He split his body in half training body parts twice a week. The split was on day one: legs, chest and triceps. Day two was back, delt and biceps. Usually training Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday though he didn't believe in using the days of the week. From there he went to three days a week using the same split. A body part got hit once or twice a week on a rotation. The routines he came out with when he retired was something he never did when he competed. It was really convenient to see clients once a week for 20 minutes.
no offense dude, coz i like you
but think about it... if he was a greedy fucking asshole then he woudn't train clients so infrequently, since he would make much more $$$ from them if he trained them much more frequently
one session every 5 to 7 days wouldn't put as much dough in his pocket as say 4 sessions a week, right?
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and as a side note, he went too far IMO, as training only once a week or less, WILL NOT allow one to achieve and maintain very high level of fitness
i'd much rather be like a fit athlete who can run a mile in under 6 min than some big toady guy who loses his breath after climbing a flight of stairs :D :D :D
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I followed everything he wrote and I still have a album of almost every article that came out that he wrote. I have the first article ever featured on Mike Mentzer.
Do you have these scanned? Any chance I could have a copy?
Yes, Mentzer went to far, the routine in the original Heavy Duty 3x a week push/pull/legs is great and very good for naturals. Not forever, but for 6-12 months, you can make excellent gains.
Also in the OP it states he was guest posing in 1991, that had to be a typo and more like 81 instead. No way mentzer was in any kind of shape in 1991.
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and as a side note, he went too far IMO, as training only once a week or less, WILL NOT allow one to achieve and maintain very high level of fitness
i'd much rather be like a fit athlete who can run a mile in under 6 min than some big toady guy who loses his breath after climbing a flight of stairs :D :D :D
Didn't you say you were gonna post new pics today to back up your claims that you are in peak shape again....only with "bigger delts and wider lats" ?
you must look really good
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Didn't you say you were gonna post new pics today to back up your claims that you are in peak shape again....only with "bigger delts and wider lats" ?
you must look really good
Did he really say he was going to post new pics!?
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Did everyone in that picture owe Louie $20.. ???
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and as a side note, he went too far IMO, as training only once a week or less, WILL NOT allow one to achieve and maintain very high level of fitness
i'd much rather be like a fit athlete who can run a mile in under 6 min than some big toady guy who loses his breath after climbing a flight of stairs :D :D :D
i like that..."big toady guy"... ;D
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Did he really say he was going to post new pics!?
YUP
allright fellas, i'll post up some recent pics on weds
and this "ladies man" thing is a wish but the funny thing is a few women actually do kinda fall for me from time to time, but truth be told anyone could have women fall for them, you just have to be her type
and for moen, the blue jacket without the hoodie is the most boss IMO
thanks man, but that pics old ;D
anyways, i like this this again execpt i'm white as a sheet lol
also, i'm a tad bit bigger now, but i kept the same goddamn proportions >:( >:( >:( ie. my torso crushes my arms :'( :'( :'( basically i'm looking like this but with better delts and wider upper lats
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do you have the biggest neck in that pic? ;D
:D Negative HB. I think the biggest neck is far left, David Paul, one of the Barbarians. I am not in that picture.
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Are you in this picture? Where's Bob Reis? My old friend Richard Slaney is in the pic. He was married to Mary Decker sometime early 80's.
There is a thread here on GB where EVERY cat in the photo is named. I'll try and find it and post it here. I am not in that picture Big Al. I was competing in powerlifting at that time and not training at Gold's.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=447910.0;attach=492012;image)
Amazing how all these guys had their hair and look like respectable human beings..
Lol good point. Anybody can explain this maybe?
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YUP
Well this should be good :)
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UPDATE STRAIGHT FROM GRYMKO
1 Charlie Leek (went to jail for cocaine)
2 Bill Grants girlfriend
3 This girl was a gym groupie. Went out with Waller and a few others.
4 Ken Waller
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6 Andreas Cahling
7 Rita Brown (Who later married Don Ross)
8 Lisa Lyons
9 Lou Ferrigno
10 Dan Franklin (trained with Ferrigno)
11 Mike Mentzer
12 Ray Mentzer
13 Bob Jakowitz
14 Bill Grant
15 David Paul
16 Eric Stienlick
17 Claudia Wilborn
18 She was Tom’s fiancé but was having a fling with Eric S. (everyone was afraid to tell Tom) and I think they ended up getting married. Eric was a writer for Ironman and Weider and Tom’s training partner.
19 Tom Platz
20 Stacey Bentley
21 Chris Dickerson
22 Dave Mastorakis, personal; who was personal training Jane Fonda at the time of this pic.
23 Ron Tuefel
24 Mike Torcia
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26 Dave Billows (worked at the front desk)
27 Mike Clancy
28 Peter Paul
29 Nick Martino (owned Gold's with Pete later died just before they moved to the Hampton site and then Tim got involved)
30 Manual Perry
31 Bill Reynolds (deceased)
32 Denny Malloy (Mike and Ray’s training partner now deceased)
33 Kent Kuhen
34 Jon Loyd (an excellent BB and owner of Gold's Northridge)
35 Jim Usach
36 Bob Reis
37 Bob Greeney
38 Joe Nasario
39 Bob Brooley
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41 Ed Connors
42 Renee Haxby
43 Pete Grymkowski
44 Tim Kimber
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So Platz's gf was cheating on him with his training partner, and everyone knew except him!?
That's fucked up
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So Platz's gf was cheating on him with his training partner, and everyone knew except him!?
That's fucked up
that's how it usually goes. his bro's wanna save him the pain, but end up causing him a ton of pain and embarrassment.
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Awesome pic
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The Mentzer bros always have that dense look to the muscle, most other pros in the pic look very bloofy
Yup, genetics. They wanted people to think it was the way they trained.lol
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Did everyone in that picture owe Louie $20.. ???
You do too for looking at the picture.
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You do too for looking at the picture.
my mom actually took 4 pics of louie at a hotel in columbus during last year's arnold classic for free ;D
he was there with arnold and others to see zane and his band perform a few tunes
a friend of my mom's is very good friends with one of zane's bandmates, so that's how my mom got the hook-up, and she actually spoke with zane for quite awhile that night :)
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Nautilus = Not Ill Less = careful with these machines.
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That's an awesome pic!
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Mentzer such a whiney bitch
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Cool pic man. The good ol' days. Wish I was old enough then.
Old enough for what? to go buy the mag when it was on the shelves??
WOOOSSSSHHHHHHHHHHH
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Mentzers views evolved with experience. What's wrong with that?