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Title: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2009, 01:24:36 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started? 

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 08, 2009, 01:51:06 PM
In Russia it started with a revolution against a monarchy and system of serfdom.
It was followed by another type of totalitarian regime.

I don't see the similarity to be honest. Interested in your POV though.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: 2ND COMING on November 08, 2009, 01:57:07 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started? 

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#


lol...
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2009, 01:57:44 PM
In Russia it started with a revolution against a monarchy and system of serfdom.
It was followed by another type of totalitarian regime.

I don't see the similarity to be honest. Interested in your POV though.

I am watching this now.  It did not start out like it ended up, but the mass hysteria over Dear Leader, the rationing, the cult worship of Stalin, the ratting out and demonization of anyone who did not agree with the master plan, the encouragement of ratting out your neghbor (flag@whitehouse.gov), the impossible "transformation" of society, etc are all errily similar to what is happening now.        
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2009, 02:10:21 PM
lol...

The imagery, propaganda, speeches, etc. are exactly the same.  The paintings, the cult like fawning, etc.   

 
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 08, 2009, 02:51:04 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started? 

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#


I couldnt imagine living during this. 

Well - thats why we have a 2nd amendment. 
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Benny B on November 08, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started? 

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#

(http://cornerstork.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/crying_baby.jpg)
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 08, 2009, 04:55:08 PM
Stalin was responsible for mass murdering of some 20 million Russians.
He is one of the most feared dictators of all time.
Those who was even suspected of disagreeing with him were sent off to the Gulag or killed.
Stalin was feared around the world.
I know Jag compared Bush to Hitler and I think this comparison is just as inaccurate.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: andreisdaman on November 08, 2009, 04:57:50 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started? 

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#



OH MY GOD!!!!....3333 has finally lost it.....comparing Obama to one of the biggest mass murderers in history..this proves once and for all you really hate Obama (partly because he is black) and that you have no idea what you are talking about...WOW...you are insane.....you would compare your own president to an infamous monster like Stalin.....

you are insane...and now you have lost ALL credibility..SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 08, 2009, 05:08:14 PM
Where do you get the idea that they have a problem with Obama being black?

not even Billy-Moe who thinks Obama's wife looks like a monkey complains about him being being black.

But comparisons with Stalin is totally off though.

It derails good legit critique of Obama.
Like questions on dealing with unemployment rate.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
I couldnt imagine living during this. 

Well - thats why we have a 2nd amendment. 


333

no joke

you need medical attention

Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Skip8282 on November 08, 2009, 06:10:39 PM
Where do you get the idea that they have a problem with Obama being black?



Yeah really, WTF is with that.  Not all people on the left do that, but it seems to me that the ones who do are the ones who really have issues with Obama's race.  It's like the discussion goes:

Why do you not like Obama?

Well, I think Cap & Trade is bad, socialized medicine is bad, and cash for clunkers is bad.

So, you hate him because he's black?

 ???
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2009, 06:26:58 PM

Yeah really, WTF is with that.  Not all people on the left do that, but it seems to me that the ones who do are the ones who really have issues with Obama's race.  It's like the discussion goes:

Why do you not like Obama?

Well, I think Cap & Trade is bad, socialized medicine is bad, and cash for clunkers is bad.

So, you hate him because he's black?

 ???
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what do you mean when you write socialized medicine?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: gcb on November 08, 2009, 06:32:17 PM
I can't wait till Obama renames Washington to Obamagrad!  ;D
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Benny B on November 08, 2009, 06:33:16 PM
Where do you get the idea that they have a problem with Obama being black?

not even Billy-Moe who thinks Obama's wife looks like a monkey complains about him being being black.

But comparisons with Stalin is totally off though.

It derails good legit critique of Obama.
Like questions on dealing with unemployment rate.
Shaddup Eurotrash.  ::) You know not of what you speak.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Skip8282 on November 08, 2009, 06:37:40 PM

what do you mean when you write socialized medicine?


I think you get the point I was making.


If you're asking my stance on the healthcare bill, I have mixed feelings and continue to struggle with whether or not it's something that's good or bad for the country, right or wrong to do.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: OzmO on November 08, 2009, 06:47:27 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started?  

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.  

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#


Yeah I'll tell you the difference.  Russia was a communist country when stalin took over and was controlled by a oppressive detatched monarchy before the revolution.

More stupid fear based bull shit. 
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Option D on November 08, 2009, 07:08:49 PM
fucking amazing...
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: nicky.smth on November 08, 2009, 08:32:40 PM
Meltdown... 8)
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2009, 09:00:22 PM


I think you get the point I was making.


If you're asking my stance on the healthcare bill, I have mixed feelings and continue to struggle with whether or not it's something that's good or bad for the country, right or wrong to do.

are you referring to the govt putting together a large group of people who all pay monthly premiums and then get health care when needed?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: OzmO on November 08, 2009, 09:35:03 PM
Hey did anyone catch that prize winning investigative documentary where they identified a concrete trait that Obama has that was exactly like what Stalin did?

Yeah they found Obama put his pants on one leg at a time like Stalin did.

We are so fucking doomed.  I bet Obama is using the constitution to roll a big fat joint right now.  

What's he gonna do next?  Make us all put a mark on our right hands for the greater good?  And make it so that we can't buy food with out the mark?

Oh i forgot...........

Did you know Hitler was in politics?  So is Obama!

Speaking of steel in their spine.......  Don't the "borg" have steel in their spines?

Get ready to be assimilated.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: gcb on November 08, 2009, 10:36:32 PM
Hey 333, you missed the obvious link - both stalin and obama have six letters in their first names (Joseph and Barack) - this is no coincidence, surely.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Straw Man on November 08, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
Hey 333, you missed the obvious link - both stalin and obama have six letters in their first names (Joseph and Barack) - this is no coincidence, surely.

they both have 2 vowels and 4 consonants

what more proof could anyone want?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: gcb on November 08, 2009, 10:51:26 PM
they both have 2 vowels and 4 consonants

what more proof could anyone want?

Yeah, that's it for me - pitchforks and torches all round - we're gunna storm the capital.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Skip8282 on November 09, 2009, 02:57:43 AM
are you referring to the govt putting together a large group of people who all pay monthly premiums and then get health care when needed?

No.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 09, 2009, 03:05:33 AM
not even Billy-Moe who thinks Obama's wife looks like a monkey complains about him being being black.
:-\
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 09, 2009, 03:07:34 AM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started?  

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.  

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#

http://www.schizophrenia.com/szparanoid.htm


hahahah





Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 05:21:06 AM
Where do you get the idea that they have a problem with Obama being black?

not even Billy-Moe who thinks Obama's wife looks like a monkey complains about him being being black.

But comparisons with Stalin is totally off though.

It derails good legit critique of Obama.
Like questions on dealing with unemployment rate.

I was not referring to the brutality part of it.  That would be ridiculous.  In watching the film, the thing that was striking was about how the cult of personality takes over and people are blind to see what is going on right in front of their eyes.  The imagery, the propagana, the symbols, the arts, etc all centered around one man.  That is where we are heading today, the cult of personality.   Some of you guys willfully ignore it, and thats fine, but things have gone on the last year and a half that are closely approaching cult like behavior.       

The point was that the terrible policies were never connected to the man himself who pushed them.  People who were brutalized by these policies were fooled into not being able to connect their plight to the man who was pushing them.
   
There is also a part in there where there always was a campaign against some "enemy of the people" to divert attention away from what was really going on.  We certainly have that today by any definition, whether it be the insurance companies, the doctors, chamber of commerce, fox news, the "teabaggers", etc, its one campaign after the next on some "enemy" which diverts attention away from the horrific policies of this govt.   

Shit - we have a reporter calling him "Sort of like God". 



This song is classic.



I never heard this one till today, but this is creepy.



Please - tell me this isnt cultish:



This is not cultish????





Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 09, 2009, 05:43:31 AM
But 3366, you're just as guilty as anyone.

I'm sure I'm as well BTW. ;D

Sure, some threads you've started I think have been great. Like when bringing focus on unemployment, the banks, the insurance suckers, the internet freedom et al.

But every time you bring in shit like Marxism, Stalin, Maoism, Dear Leader, et al - you're feeding into the whole iconisation BS of Obama IMO.

I can't say that Obama is innocent in all of this - of course not. He's an awesome rhetoric and is using it.

But it is the surrounding media and some fans AND "haters" that perhaps could be considered be taking it to extremes.

JMO.

FWIW, I think it's very telling that the health care reform has been named "Obamacare" by Obama's critics in some effort to bring him down.

What they don't realize is that it only builds his brand even more.

He'll get his name mentioned for free in the media even more now - thanks to Republican strategists.

I don't know how they came up with that strategy. ???
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 05:48:39 AM
But 3366, you're just as guilty as anyone.

I'm sure I'm as well BTW. ;D

Sure, some threads you've started I think have been great. Like when bringing focus on unemployment, the banks, the insurance suckers, the internet freedom et al.

But every time you bring in shit like Marxism, Stalin, Maoism, Dear Leader, et al - you're feeding into the whole iconisation BS of Obama IMO.

I can't say that Obama is innocent in all of this - of course not. He's an awesome rhetoric and is using it.

But it is the surrounding media and some fans AND "haters" that perhaps could be considered be taking it to extremes.

JMO.

FWIW, I think it's very telling that the health care reform has been named "Obamacare" by Obama's critics in some effort to bring him down.

What they don't realize is that it only builds his brand even more.

He'll get his name mentioned for free in the media even more now - thanks to Republican strategists.

I don't know how they came up with that strategy. ???

I agree with you Hedge to an extent.  But what do you want me to call it when his advisors are avowed maoists & marxists in their own names? 

BTW people named it PelosiCare and ObamaCare for a reason.  They are using the Saul Alinsky tactics that those two have mastered themselves.   
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 09, 2009, 06:05:41 AM
I agree with you Hedge to an extent.  But what do you want me to call it when his advisors are avowed maoists & marxists in their own names? 

BTW people named it PelosiCare and ObamaCare for a reason.  They are using the Saul Alinsky tactics that those two have mastered themselves.   

Just saying it may come back and bite the GOP in the ass in the end.

Did even 50 percent of US citizens know who Pelosi was before?

Joe Coach thought her name was Polosi, eg.

But after this, chances are she could be the most well known speaker of all time.

That's regardless of whether the health care reform turn out to be a success or a failure.

Because as you stated yourself, it will take at least a few years before it will be fully enforced, if it makes it.


Unemployment is where it's at IMO.

It's the same thing globally.

Banks are making huge profits due to getting cheap loans and low prime rates from central banks, and in turn making huge profits on regular customers and small and bigger businesses.

Here's the thing IMO:
The lower prime rates that the central banks are setting are designed to make regular banks give small businesses cheap loans so they're able to get their investments going.

But instead, the banks "eats" up that margin, and the rates are still preventing small businesses from getting things going again.

Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 06:12:18 AM
Hedge, banks are not loaning anything right now.  They are bracing themselves for tjhe capital requirements they must adhere to once they start getting hit with the massive losses soon to come in commercial RE, credit cards, and the re-sets in the Alta-A loans in the next two years. 

Charlie Gasaparino was on the radio last night and said if the UE goes to official 11%, we will have another financial tsunami in bank losses and that everyone knows it, but are not talking about it officially.  He said they are jamming heaslth care so fast because they know once the TSHTF, health care will be the last thing on peoples' minds.   
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 09, 2009, 06:29:22 AM
Hedge, banks are not loaning anything right now.  They are bracing themselves for tjhe capital requirements they must adhere to once they start getting hit with the massive losses soon to come in commercial RE, credit cards, and the re-sets in the Alta-A loans in the next two years. 

Charlie Gasaparino was on the radio last night and said if the UE goes to official 11%, we will have another financial tsunami in bank losses and that everyone knows it, but are not talking about it officially.  He said they are jamming heaslth care so fast because they know once the TSHTF, health care will be the last thing on peoples' minds.   


I wonder if something else is happening that we don't see.  This money and more to the banks did basically go down a mystery hole.  I remember Bernanke in congress basically saying tough shit, we won't tell you who we loaned 2.2 trillion dollars to.  We know that the banks arne't loaning the money yet and that's basically the only reason why we haven't started into massive inflation.  But I'm wondering if there is a part of the picture we're missing?  What if this money is primarily loaned overseas?  Of course I'm thinking along the master plan of a one world harmonized bullshit.  It's not a quick question to answer, it takes a second to think about what the results would be...  My instant impression is that the results would be in line with that goal.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 06:32:44 AM

I wonder if something else is happening that we don't see.  This money and more to the banks did basically go down a mystery hole.  I remember Bernanke in congress basically saying tough shit, we won't tell you who we loaned 2.2 trillion dollars to.  We know that the banks arne't loaning the money yet and that's basically the only reason why we haven't started into massive inflation.  But I'm wondering if there is a part of the picture we're missing?  What if this money is primarily loaned overseas?  Of course I'm thinking along the master plan of a one world harmonized bullshit.  It's not a quick question to answer, it takes a second to think about what the results would be...  My instant impression is that the results would be in line with that goal.

Hugo - The CDO exposures alone were in the hundreds of billions, if not trillions all in off balance sheet transactions.  If you go watch that movie I posted "The Warning", there is a ton of info in there. 

I think things are far far worse than they are letting on and wont tell the truth because they dont want riots or panic. 
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 09, 2009, 06:37:09 AM

I wonder if something else is happening that we don't see.  This money and more to the banks did basically go down a mystery hole.  I remember Bernanke in congress basically saying tough shit, we won't tell you who we loaned 2.2 trillion dollars to.  We know that the banks arne't loaning the money yet and that's basically the only reason why we haven't started into massive inflation.  But I'm wondering if there is a part of the picture we're missing?  What if this money is primarily loaned overseas?  Of course I'm thinking along the master plan of a one world harmonized bullshit.  It's not a quick question to answer, it takes a second to think about what the results would be...  My instant impression is that the results would be in line with that goal.

I agree with your questions.

But not with your suggested answers, perhaps.

That there is some master plan for a one world government.

But where did the money go?

Why didn't the government just step in and nationalize the ailing banks like they did in eg UK, Holland and Germany?

Money gone baby, gone?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Straw Man on November 09, 2009, 08:31:54 AM
No.

then what are you referring to?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 09, 2009, 10:10:45 AM
Hugo - The CDO exposures alone were in the hundreds of billions, if not trillions all in off balance sheet transactions.  If you go watch that movie I posted "The Warning", there is a ton of info in there. 

I think things are far far worse than they are letting on and wont tell the truth because they dont want riots or panic. 
did you freaking read my post or just automatically post what you wanted to say?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 09, 2009, 10:11:32 AM
I agree with your questions.

But not with your suggested answers, perhaps.

That there is some master plan for a one world government.

But where did the money go?

Why didn't the government just step in and nationalize the ailing banks like they did in eg UK, Holland and Germany?

Money gone baby, gone?
I never suggest answers, fuck off.  and what the hell is that supposed to mean, "I agree with your questions" :-\

PS, there is a master plan for some level of world government you goddamned mental midget.  everyone already knows that little. ::)
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
did you freaking read my post or just automatically post what you wanted to say?

You asked where all the money went and I gave you one possible explanation.  Why did you get so defensive?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Hedgehog on November 09, 2009, 10:27:06 AM
'Mental midget' lol. Easy there tiger. It ain't that serious.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2009, 10:52:44 AM
I couldnt imagine living during this. 

Well - thats why we have a 2nd amendment. 

So people like you can have an alternative to "living like this" and having to share your misery with everyone else on a daily basis?

Yes, the 2nd Amendment is a wonderful thing if utilized properly.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 11:10:18 AM
So people like you can have an alternative to "living like this" and having to share your misery with everyone else on a daily basis?

Yes, the 2nd Amendment is a wonderful thing if utilized properly.

Hitler always said the US coulnt be invaded because of all the guns owned by private citizens.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2009, 11:29:06 AM
All the gun owners in the world are not going to help you with your mental state over the course of the next 3 years if you continue to have threads like this blow up in your face on a daily basis.  Which is quickly becoming a trend for you.
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Option D on November 09, 2009, 11:35:14 AM
Hitler always said the US coulnt be invaded because of all the guns owned by private citizens.

quote please
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 11:57:15 AM
quote please

I was wrong, it was Japan's Yammamoto who said that.   
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 09, 2009, 12:24:49 PM
I was wrong,   

Getting to be quite a lot of that lately huh?
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 09, 2009, 12:29:34 PM
Getting to be quite a lot of that lately huh?

Like the failure of C4C & the Stimulus Bill? 

Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: Kazan on November 09, 2009, 01:00:17 PM
"Japan would never invade the United States. We would find a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Isoroku Yamamoto
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: OzmO on November 09, 2009, 04:31:36 PM
Again B, F, F-ing, D!

So people really like Obama.  The nerve!

But yet, we are really trying to compare him to Stalin?   ::)

Lame dude.

Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: 240 is Back on November 09, 2009, 05:55:19 PM
"Japan would never invade the United States. We would find a rifle behind every blade of grass."
Isoroku Yamamoto

LOL!!! Awesome quote!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Stalin & Obama (Stalin started out an a community organizer too)
Post by: peruke on November 09, 2009, 06:41:23 PM
Stalin was a community organizer too.  Remember what Biden said:  Obama has "steel in his spine"

Please, anyone tell me how what is going on now is any different how the Soviet Union started? 

Anyone with an ounce on honesty will be able to see the close similarities.   

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9118985704353138889#



You can also compare GW Bush to "a 15 Watt Lightbulb", but he is not that bright"!!!   The comparison is "extreme" don't you think?    "Don't spit in the water, cause, you may have to drink it"!!!    :-X