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I currently am battling a string of injuries that are really preventing me from training like I want to.....I've had the same injuries for a good 4 months at least.....seems like they'll never heal despite really slowing down my training quite a bit. Any older getbiggers still train hard without constant and nagging injuries or joint pain? >:(
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Quit bitching and up the dose. Pain exists between the ears.
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I currently am battling a string of injuries that are really preventing me from training like I want to.....I've had the same injuries for a good 4 months at least.....seems like they'll never heal despite really slowing down my training quite a bit. Any older getbiggers still train hard without constant and nagging injuries or joint pain? >:(
At 33, I am still battling the same injury from last year. Screwed up my elbow on skull crushers. It was bothering me for months. Got better, now its bothering me again. Ive taken off like 2 weeks and ill be going back in a few days, because its like 90% better. I suspect that this is always going to bother me in some way. I think I am going to have to change the way I train to accommodate my elbow. And I am only 33. So, I think its safe to say that as you get older, its impossible to train injury and pain free.
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About 30 and I've been pretty lucky with no major issues, although I have a pain in my right shoulder that I believe I tweaked when I came back too strong over the Summer (after quite a while off) doing front raises too much.
Pain in rear of right shoulder, feels like a bruise deep in there. No amount of pushing on the skin aggravates it, but if I tuck my arms into my sides and move my elbows past my back I can feel the tightness in there.
Never hurts while performing any other lifts, but I occasionally aggravate it when I am getting into position to do DB press, or it happens a lot when I go to re-rack weights. It's something about holding the weight out front of my with my palm facing a certain way that makes it hurt. And if I tweak it, it isn't like "oh shit I'm done for the day" it just burns like a nerve/electric pain and then stops. It isn't like I "re-injure" it per se. No range of motion lost and it doesn't hurt to rotate my arm.
Impingement? No idea..
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SHOULDER ...front delt that has caused a good 2 months and still nagging,my chest pressing,back/trap/arms/side and rear delts no issue at all using same weights/volume,,shoulder press to front and any chest press my weights are cut way down,,can do some flyes for chest,,,pushups fine but dips forget it I go straight down ..been supersetting chest with lighter weights..rom is still not there..
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Shit comes and goes. Can lift for 3 months straight and feel like Hercules, lubed joints, everything fine, then next day shoulder barely moves, wrists hurt, whatever. No rhyme or reason.
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64 years old= remember pain is just weakness leaving the body.................... ........................ ...........or so they say..................... .......best thing to remember if it hurts don't do it... refer to this book for an alternate exercise for the same bodypart...
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Shit comes and goes. Can lift for 3 months straight and feel like Hercules, lubed joints, everything fine, then next day shoulder barely moves, wrists hurt, whatever. No rhyme or reason.
This.
For me, I know what screwed up my elbow. The pain comes and go. Some exercises I can't do, and some I can. I think Im going to need to go light-medium and use higher reps for the next couple months. Sucks when you injure your elbow, as it is involved in pretty much every upper body movement. :-\ :-\
I noticed that if I warm up my elbow via bodyweight exercises (dips, pushups, etc), then my elbow doesnt bother me as much.
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Yeah Shoulder seems to be a common one. Mine has been bothering me since I can't remember when.....but it is finally starting to feel like it's getting better slowly. I also have an issue with my left elbow....which a weird type of injury.....only hurts when gripping a bar tightly and straightening my arm at the same time. Never had that one before.
Also having bicep tendon issues on my right arm. And today I tweaked my knee doing legs :-\
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This.
For me, I know what screwed up my elbow. The pain comes and go. Some exercises I can't do, and some I can. I think Im going to need to go light-medium and use higher reps for the next couple months. Sucks when you injure your elbow, as it is involved in pretty much every upper body movement. :-\ :-\
I noticed that if I warm up my elbow via bodyweight exercises (dips, pushups, etc), then my elbow doesnt bother me as much.
I love dips but they are brutal on elbow/shoulders if there is an issue already there..
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I love dips but they are brutal on elbow/shoulders if there is an issue already there..
They are also really hard on your palms/wrist if you've had a hand injury in the past.
Speaking from experience.
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I love dips but they are brutal on elbow/shoulders if there is an issue already there..
I use the assisted dip machine, as the weight allows me to counterbalance my own bodyweight, so its not like I am using all of my bodyweight.
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At 33, I am still battling the same injury from last year. Screwed up my elbow on skull crushers. It was bothering me for months. Got better, now its bothering me again. Ive taken off like 2 weeks and ill be going back in a few days, because its like 90% better. I suspect that this is always going to bother me in some way. I think I am going to have to change the way I train to accommodate my elbow. And I am only 33. So, I think its safe to say that as you get older, its impossible to train injury and pain free.
Actually training makes my injuries feel better. Try a cortisone injection to bring down inflammation and break up bursitis.
Ice works great too.
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I was thinking about posting about this the other day.
I just got back to training in September after a couple of years due to very dire health issues and personal stuff.
Anyways a few weeks ago I decide to throw everything upside down so to speak as I have always found that I was strongest and most energetic about midway through the workout. Example say leg day in the past on squats I would work up typically to 275-315 for 6-12 reps depending on how strong etc I felt. But I often found many times when I started with squats or whatever as the heavy move I often did not feel right with the heavier weights yet when say my heavier move(squats being the example here) was done after leg presses it would sometimes a challenge but alot smoother than when I do my heavier moves first.
Now all that being said here is what I have been doing the last few weeks showing 2 different chest workouts as the example,
This one I did last week. I add weight every set, first set is usually pretty easy. Ironically the 15-25 rep ones kick my ass
Dumbell Pullover 3x15-25
Seated Machine Dips 3x15-25
Cable Crossovers 3x10-12
Incline Dumbell Flyes(high incline 60%) 3x10-12
Incline Dumbell Press 3x6-8
This weeks looks like this
Incline Dumbell Press 3x15-25
Hammer Machine press 3x15-25
Cable Crossover 3x10-12
Dumbell Pullover 3x10-12
Parallel Bar Dips(wide grip) 3x6-8
Just an example but I have just noticed the last couple weeks my strength is slowly going back up, my aches and pains(other than DOMS) has reduced to nothing and my bodyfat is starting to reduce more
I also devote a full workout to my rotators after my chest workout
Also I have also found that have one leg day that is quad dominant and one leg day being hamstring/glute dominant to help in the lower back lower body range. I also do neck exercises(just 2 giant sets 4 ways on the cable) every other day has strengthen that area back up and reduced aches
I think it's not so much we have to stop movements as we have to take our ego out of the movement and make adjustments example no matter how hard I try I cannot do a lying barbell extension the typical way. However I can do JM Presses and Lying extensions with the wider grip on the easy bar pain free
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Actually training makes my injuries feel better. Try a cortisone injection to bring down inflammation and break up bursitis.
Ice works great too.
Yeah, I should ice my elbow more.
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Actually training makes my injuries feel better. Try a cortisone injection to bring down inflammation and break up bursitis.
Ice works great too.
Funny....I remember one time a few years ago, I completely stopped training to let my injuries heal and it seemed like for the first few weeks of not training that my injuries felt worse.
I thought cortisone would make things worse in the long run? I thought I read somewhere to stay away from that.
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Funny....I remember one time a few years ago, I completely stopped training to let my injuries heal and it seemed like for the first few weeks of not training that my injuries felt worse.
I thought cortisone would make things worse in the long run? I thought I read somewhere to stay away from that.
I have never had any problems from it and had my first one in college many years ago for a separated shoulder.
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Possible? Yes.
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I spend 20 minutes every day before I even touch a weight on mobility (no homo) work. Foam rolling, stretching, lacrosse ball work, etc.
I am still battling two shoulders and a pinched nerve in the neck at the moment. I haven't been 100% for months.
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I think the last time my body was pain free was somewhere around 1985.
If something hurts while training, I move to a different exercise.
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I don't think so....
Everything wears out at some point
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Get on GH and stay on it, injury and pain free training. If you can afford it and are over 30, then GH is a huge plus.
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I hear you man. I'm down to more and more machines. Any dumbell lifted over 80lbs now feels like it's destroying my forearm, shoulder, pec. But I need to get my pec minor worked on. Just applying deodorant is having me feel pain, lol...
Avoiding it, having that work on hurts like a mother fucker...
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It's possible most of the time, but you have to be specific about exercise selection and train with strict form. If you don't already do so, keep a log of your training and add details about the pain during the following 48 hours. Do some light stretch work after your workouts and throw some cardio in the mix.
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In my late 30's I had chronic shoulder pain for about two years, even stopped me training for a good while. Eventually got back to it and worked around it, avoided anything that didn't feel right. I haven't had pain in my shoulders for a long while now. Sometimes injuries just take a long time to come good, especially complex muscle groups like the shoulder. Just do what you can.
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Maintain flexibility, warm up properly, don't over do it....of course it is.
Shitcan all the stupid bodybuilding exercises and it's even easier.
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Maintain flexibility, warm up properly, don't over do it....of course it is.
Shitcan all the stupid bodybuilding exercises and it's even easier.
I will NEVER give up on upright rows! Team Upright Row forever!!
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Injuries tend to miraculously heal when you lighten up the weights.
Stop trying to impress people who don't care if you live or die.
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I'm not older (30), but have been training for eons and using increasingly heavy weights (way above your regular gym rat). I've had not a single injury, while many people I've met on the way, younger and older - were/are constantly complaining about their knee/elbow/shoulder/back pains (and most of them are half as strong). And I have my theory why: I've started lifting with very light weights, built my base for about ten years of strict training, poundages increased very gradually, giving enough time for connective tissues to get stronger, later on I started some gear and my strength went to another level, still took my time to raise the weights, step by step (while my training partners were fucking up their shoulders and getting muscle tears, after encountering steroids and new strength). Two: I started doing very strict warmups after about two years of lifting (I knew I'm in for a long run), religiously. My regular warm up takes about 15mins, no excuses. For legs it may take twenty minutes, depends. That and probably genetics (no issues with joints in family tree). Have been pretty flexible always too, probably good.
Main thing - if your warm up takes less than 10mins of active movements - you are asking for injuries, simple as that.
Hope this helps
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Quit bitching and up the dose. Pain exists between the ears.
LOL, sounds hardcore but...?
Every guy I know who lifted with that philosophy isn't doing it after age 50.
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Yeah Shoulder seems to be a common one. Mine has been bothering me since I can't remember when.....but it is finally starting to feel like it's getting better slowly. I also have an issue with my left elbow....which a weird type of injury.....only hurts when gripping a bar tightly and straightening my arm at the same time. Never had that one before.
Also having bicep tendon issues on my right arm. And today I tweaked my knee doing legs :-\
I'm damn near 60 now and started back in the pumping iron era of the 1970's.
Here's the truth on your OP question :
If you push it hard and heavy = it eventually catches up with 99% who did. Me included .
Dexter Jackson seems to be one major exception and I'd now advise most guys to view his training videos on Utube and train with his moderate style.
100% serious.
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At 33, I am still battling the same injury from last year. Screwed up my elbow on skull crushers. It was bothering me for months. Got better, now its bothering me again. Ive taken off like 2 weeks and ill be going back in a few days, because its like 90% better. I suspect that this is always going to bother me in some way. I think I am going to have to change the way I train to accommodate my elbow. And I am only 33. So, I think its safe to say that as you get older, its impossible to train injury and pain free.
Watch this video starting at 8:30, it might help with your skull crusher issue.
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Watch this video starting at 8:30, it might help with your skull crusher issue.
FYI, Dorian was a great champ and one of the best trainers in terms of good sense for effective workouts.
BUT, even he got injured when he pushed it for his O wins. Just sayin'.
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almost 59. somehow hurt my right shoulder two months ago. i was able to do three plates on each side for incline bench for 6 reps no spot. hurt my fucking shoulder trying to get dumbbells up for seated military press. today i went and tried
to do incline press with one plate. no luck. hurts like a bitch. freaking sucks because i love to bench, and I'm good at it. everything else is good. can still lift heavy on back and shoulders. {no presses at all because of the shoulder} life sucks :'( :'( :'(
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3-0-3 tempo's
static reps
pre exhaust
all stimulate the muscle well when your body is slowed down.
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almost 59. somehow hurt my right shoulder two months ago. i was able to do three plates on each side for incline bench for 6 reps no spot. hurt my fucking shoulder trying to get dumbbells up for seated military press. today i went and tried
to do incline press with one plate. no luck. hurts like a bitch. freaking sucks because i love to bench, and I'm good at it. everything else is good. can still lift heavy on back and shoulders. {no presses at all because of the shoulder} life sucks :'( :'( :'(
Care to explain the injury, and how much weight you were hoisting? Did you do it too fast and your arm fell backward, or what?
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In my 30's no injury right now
Although, sometimes I get a pain here and there, I think you can simply prevent larger issues with the tactic of leaving the ego at the door
Also, a good mind to muscle connection helps you avoid bad moves
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You don't need to be old to be unable to train heavy without pain. The only guys i see training hard after 35yo are on hormones. And they don't train heavy year round.
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You need to remove any exercise that isn't suited to you, for me that meant squats, deadlifts, overhead presses and anyform of skull crushers and dips.
As much as I loved those movements they caused lots of problems that have more or less gone, as has been said train for feel, if your having a string day make the most if it but don't push it every week..
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almost 59. somehow hurt my right shoulder two months ago. i was able to do three plates on each side for incline bench for 6 reps no spot. hurt my fucking shoulder trying to get dumbbells up for seated military press. today i went and tried
to do incline press with one plate. no luck. hurts like a bitch. freaking sucks because i love to bench, and I'm good at it. everything else is good. can still lift heavy on back and shoulders. {no presses at all because of the shoulder} life sucks :'( :'( :'(
It's often someone's stubbornness that causes problems. Forget all pressing movements with a barbell and replace those by dumbbell or machine variants. That would be a great first step to pain-free shoulders.
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Collectively this thread reveals that most here don't know what they are doing. Proof? They have no clue what to do to prevent or overcome injuries.
Heavy bench pressing is going to damage your shoulders. Lots of exercises will damage your elbows. Don't do exercises that cause joint damage.
SF has no clue whatsoever! More sad than amusing.
There has to be at least one thing wrong with his philosophy of hypertrophy. Most guys do way too many exercises because they believe if they
don't do them the target muscles will shrink. Cut way down on the number of exercises. Train arms and legs for a month to get the elbows healed.
For triceps you have to avoid skull crushing movements. French Presses are also dangerous. There is a way to do skull crushes safely but most guys in the gym have no clue here. Larry Scott
knew what to do. He used a circular motion where he brought the weight down to his chest then continued in a circle up to near his face then up and
around. However, you should warm up thoroughly doing several sets of triceps pressdowns for high reps. Start with 40 reps and work down to about 15.
When the triceps start to get a pump you can then use more effective exercises. If you want the elbows to heal then avoid all presses and dips. Period.
I damaged my elbows way back in 1965 doing 250 pound pullovers on a bench. Throwing the javelin didn't help, either. Once you damage the elbows
it will persist. Never put the elbows on anything while doing exercises. Avoid resting the elbows on anything, even in bed. You will be sorry. There is
a sheath that goes over the elbow joint and it is easy to damage it by friction under loads. Keep the elbows well past the end of pads for all triceps and
even biceps work.
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Larry Scott knew what to do. He used a circular motion where he brought the weight down to his chest then continued in a circle up to near his face then up and around. However, you should warm up thoroughly doing several sets of triceps pressdowns for high reps. Start with 40 reps and work down to about 15.
That's an interesting one, but will this result in a good contraction in your triceps? I'm asking this since both the concentric and eccentric directions seem pretty limited in this movement.
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if your reps at 25 was 3-8 change them to 8-12, and with better form.
will make a huge difference in saving joints
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That's an interesting one, but will this result in a good contraction in your triceps? I'm asking this since both the concentric and eccentric directions seem pretty limited in this movement.
If you lower a weight to near your face then push it upwards you place a lot of stress on the elbows. So Larry avoided some of the stress by doing a circular motion. He used up to
225 pounds with an EZ Curl bar. By keeping the motion fluid there is no stopping. Thus, injuries are usually avoided. Of course, guys cheat all the time and when form evaporates all
bets are off re injuries. Like I suggested, warm up the triceps thoroughly using the simple triceps pressdown movement. That movement is usually safe but not so effective. I do lying
triceps extensions. Being in a pre-stretched position with elbows near the ears helps put more mechanical tension on the triceps. The MedX triceps machine is unique in providing more resistance near the extended position.
You can't see it but I moved the pads two inches towards the user so that the elbows do not contact the pads. This is essential to avoid damaging the sensitive sheath that crosses the elbow joint.
It is the last 15 degrees of the movement that is important but most trainees cheat near the fully extended position so lose a lot of the benefit of that exercise.
In the photo below you will see a modification to the Nautilus Triceps Machine to make it more effective. Having the hands face each other also takes stress off the elbows. Be careful with pronated or palms down position.
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Luckily I never had elbow issues, but I will give this circular movement a try!
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if your reps at 25 was 3-8 change them to 8-12, and with better form.
will make a huge difference in saving joints
Partly right. It is much better to aim at 15 to 20 reps to start after warming up. By the third set you will be down in reps.
By doing 15 or more reps you will get a better pump. By the time you do 5 sets your reps might be down to only 10 to 12.
If you start at 10 you won't be able to do many sets for that many reps. That is where injuries can happen. You always aim
for the biggest pump possible through training.
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I'm damn near 60 now and started back in the pumping iron era of the 1970's.
Here's the truth on your OP question :
If you push it hard and heavy = it eventually catches up with 99% who did. Me included .
Dexter Jackson seems to be one major exception and I'd now advise most guys to view his training videos on Utube and train with his moderate style.
100% serious.
Yes but the thing about Dexter is that he is also on GH and other hormones which definitely help heal (and probably mask) injuries. If he stopped all hormones today I'm sure in a few months time he would start feeling the injuries.
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Start a low dosage GH and Test regime. Go vegan. Stretch every morning. Don't do any sets below 8 reps.
You will be amazed at how you can recover.
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The problem with bodybuilding isolation movements is that you're deliberately putting the muscles and joints in a position of poor leverage. It's not an accident that you can't use much weight on lateral raises, flyes or the aforementioned Skull Crushers.
The marginal benefits of these exercises are outweighed by the stress on the joints. Being able to do this for your whole life is 100% about avoiding injury.
The reality is that by the time you hit your late 20s, you are what you are, and still chasing "Hypertrophy" after that is a fools game. I admit I played that game for awhile, but, if I could go back, I'd do it differently.
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Start a low dosage GH and Test regime. Go vegan. Stretch every morning. Don't do any sets below 8 reps.
You will be amazed at how you can recover.
Homo.....outed!
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The problem with bodybuilding isolation movements is that you're deliberately putting the muscles and joints in a position of poor leverage. It's not an accident that you can't use much weight on lateral raises, flyes or the aforementioned Skull Crushers.
The marginal benefits of these exercises are outweighed by the stress on the joints. Being able to do this for your whole life is 100% about avoiding injury.
The reality is that by the time you hit your late 20s, you are what you are, and still chasing "Hypertrophy" after that is a fools game. I admit I played that game for awhile, but, if I could go back, I'd do it differently.
Hi Doug BRIGNOLE...
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The reality is that by the time you hit your late 20s, you are what you are, and still chasing "Hypertrophy" after that is a fools game. I admit I played that game for awhile, but, if I could go back, I'd do it differently.
I guess you are talking strictly a clean trainee. Otherwise - it's completely different ball of game. I know plenty of ppl who are still going heavy at 50 with no issues. They are smart ppl, took a great care of training properly and have been very consistent for decades. Injuries, just like being injury free, usualy does not happen accidentaly.
I don't want to repeat myself, but when I see 90 percent of ppl in the gym - I can tell that most will injure themselves on the way just because they doesn't warm up properly. And that includes amateurs and "advanced" gym rats. I could bet that most ppl writing here neglect a proper warm up constantly. And there cannot be a neglect. If you are in a hurry - do one exercise less, but have your throughout warmup instead. Sadly - only a handful do this.
Bodybuilding is great for joints, even heavy weight bodybuilding, if done properly.
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I guess you are talking strictly a clean trainee. Otherwise - it's completely different ball of game. I know plenty of ppl who are still going heavy at 50 with no issues. They are smart ppl, took a great care of training properly and have been very consistent for decades. Injuries, just like being injury free, usualy does not happen accidentaly.
I don't want to repeat myself, but when I see 90 percent of ppl in the gym - I can tell that most will injure themselves on the way just because they doesn't warm up properly. And that includes amateurs and "advanced" gym rats. I could bet that most ppl writing here neglect a proper warm up constantly. And there cannot be a neglect. If you are in a hurry - do one exercise less, but have your throughout warmup instead. Sadly - only a handful do this.
Bodybuilding is great for joints, even heavy weight bodybuilding, if done properly.
You're 30. You're not qualified to speak on this until you actually experience it. When I was your age, I could dunk a basketball. Now, at 50, I can barely touch the backboard.
When I was in my twenties, I used to say stupid shit to the old timers who told me what to expect. I was wrong. So are you.
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I currently am battling a string of injuries that are really preventing me from training like I want to.....I've had the same injuries for a good 4 months at least.....seems like they'll never heal despite really slowing down my training quite a bit. Any older getbiggers still train hard without constant and nagging injuries or joint pain? >:(
Train like vince taylor.. volume....
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Train like vince taylor.. volume....
Yeah, volume means lighten up the weights.
Lot of emotional infants in this thread who think they're gonna stay young and continue to get bigger forever.
Ronnie was able to do this for longer than any living human being. How's he doing healthwise, these days?
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You're 30. You're not qualified to speak on this until you actually experience it. When I was your age, I could dunk a basketball. Now, at 50, I can barely touch the backboard.
When I was in my twenties, I used to say stupid shit to the old timers who told me what to expect. I was wrong. So are you.
Tell that to O'hearn.
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Yeah, volume means lighten up the weights.
Lot of emotional infants in this thread who think they're gonna stay young and continue to get bigger forever.
Ronnie was able to do this for longer than any living human being. How's he doing healthwise, these days?
Me and TuHolmes went to the olympia 2014...ronnie had 2 forearm canes walking through the expo... thats when i said "fuck that, im not lifting stupid heavy no more"
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You're 30. You're not qualified to speak on this until you actually experience it. When I was your age, I could dunk a basketball. Now, at 50, I can barely touch the backboard.
When I was in my twenties, I used to say stupid shit to the old timers who told me what to expect. I was wrong. So are you.
Bingo! I used to be young, dumb and full of cum myself.
I always imagined I'd be the exception and go on lifting heavy forever, free from joint issues.
Now at near 60 yrs of age I KNOW differently.
Cars, race horses and humans , all age and decline with enough time and mileage.
This is why it's rare to see pro athletes in their 40's and they are long gone by 50.
Track sprinters are one the best examples of this .
They stretch and warm up as good or better then most athletes.
They don't get hit or knocked around like football , soccer or hockey.
How many elite, world class sprinters are as fast in their 40's as they were in their 20's?
Granted a small handful have COMPETED at 40 but never run their fastest.
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Me and TuHolmes went to the olympia 2014...ronnie had 2 forearm canes walking through the expo... thats when i said "fuck that, im not lifting stupid heavy no more"
So, you are still lifting heavy, then?
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So, you are still lifting heavy, then?
no... i dont.. the highest i go to on bench is 315
the highest i go to on squat is 405...
disclaimer.. im 250 so those numbers arent super awesome...
Lifting heavy kills joints that just dont recover at the same rate as muscle
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Me and TuHolmes went to the olympia 2014...ronnie had 2 forearm canes walking through the expo... thats when i said "fuck that, im not lifting stupid heavy no more"
I think that was right after one his hip surgeries ?
No matter, it just goes to show that he pushed the envelope to win and wore his body out.
Happens to most NFL players and former pro MMA and boxers.
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I think that was right after one his hip surgeries ?
No matter, it just goes to show that he pushed the envelope to win and wore his body out.
Happens to most NFL players and former pro MMA and boxers.
there is a sacrifice to everything...
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Use good form.
Don't go heavier than is possible with good form.
Keep your ego off the bar.
Don't use former lifts as a measure of progress.
Stop trying to eat like crazy.
Listen to your body when a break is needed. Maybe do cardio or walking.
I don't do any drugs but they're probably not very good for older guys in terms of risk:benefit.
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no... i dont.. the highest i go to on bench is 315
the highest i go to on squat is 405...
disclaimer.. im 250 so those numbers arent super awesome...
Lifting heavy kills joints that just dont recover at the same rate as muscle
Is there even a reason to go higher than that for bb purposes?
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I have zero aches, pains or injuries from lifting and I started in '82. I've been training with variations of HIT since the early 90's. Always train to failure.
I'm currently recovering from a torn bicep which is non-workout related. Who knew you couldn't curl twice your body-weight with your weak arm? Once it heals I'll be right back to doing my regular workouts, pain free.
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There comes a time to go lighter to avoid exacerbating certain injuries.....it helps when you learn to work around injuries by still hitting the area with exercises that don`t annoy the injury/area further.
I go as heavy as possible for the reps I`m gunning for all the time excluding warm up sets of course.
My neck is fucked up,very iffy trick lower back so I now do non-lock squats on the Smith Machine,rotator cuff pain is gone since starting Deca and eliminating the useless exercise they call the bench press.
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At 33, I am still battling the same injury from last year. Screwed up my elbow on skull crushers. It was bothering me for months. Got better, now its bothering me again. Ive taken off like 2 weeks and ill be going back in a few days, because its like 90% better. I suspect that this is always going to bother me in some way. I think I am going to have to change the way I train to accommodate my elbow. And I am only 33. So, I think its safe to say that as you get older, its impossible to train injury and pain free.
Always start your Tricep work with 2 sets of pushdowns for 40-50 reps and just stop doing skulls and replace them with french presses or bent-forward cable extensions.
Do higher reps for Tris and don`t rest as much between sets.
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I have zero aches, pains or injuries from lifting and I started in '82. I've been training with variations of HIT since the early 90's. Always train to failure.
I'm currently recovering from a torn bicep which is non-workout related. Who knew you couldn't curl twice your body-weight with your weak arm? Once it heals I'll be right back to doing my regular workouts, pain free.
That's what I'm talking about.
A few daus ago I've witnessed a regular view at my gym, where a 55yo powerlifter was squatting around 650lb for his final set (built up with like five sets before that). No knee pain, no back pain, nothing we've talked about that many times with him. Dude works as a construction worker during the day, climbs roofs. Been powerlifting for more that 30 years. Go figure.
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Not old but since getting into early 30s shoulder rotator work is an absolute godsent
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That's what I'm talking about.
A few daus ago I've witnessed a regular view at my gym, where a 55yo powerlifter was squatting around 650lb for his final set (built up with like five sets before that). No knee pain, no back pain, nothing we've talked about that many times with him. Dude works as a construction worker during the day, climbs roofs. Been powerlifting for more that 30 years. Go figure.
Lots of prodigies out there who have managed to check the aging process. Funny how they all would rather work construction and do powerlifting for no money, rather than make millions playing in the NFL.
Notice the ages:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/273e0e331f330a016787ac112a52d379_zpsq4fxxebe.jpg)
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Is there even a reason to go higher than that for bb purposes?
i dont really think so. An 800lb squat is waaaaaaay more risk than reward.
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i dont really think so. An 800lb squat is waaaaaaay more risk than reward.
Understatement of the year.
Why tempt fate ?
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Lots of prodigies out there who have managed to check the aging process. Funny how they all would rather work construction and do powerlifting for no money, rather than make millions playing in the NFL.
Notice the ages:
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/273e0e331f330a016787ac112a52d379_zpsq4fxxebe.jpg)
Who cares about pro athletes. Thread is not about this. And weight lifting sports are very often an exception in this regard. Take a look at strongmans champions and their age.
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For me "training heavy" was over after 35.
Guess there are some mutants who can grind forever while the others train around their stockpile of aches. Totally not worth it as you can make some mediocre gains even with light weight and consistency.
The ecstasy of pumping heavy is, of course, gone and the sadness may be lingering for some months or even years.
Posting smilies may ease the pain. :D
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well cause of my neck problem i just used Dumbbells Today, Front,side,rear raises and Dumbbell shrugs. No presses at all and i felt good and pain free.
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Homo.....outed!
Havent heard? Going vegan solves just about anything
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I currently am battling a string of injuries that are really preventing me from training like I want to.....I've had the same injuries for a good 4 months at least.....seems like they'll never heal despite really slowing down my training quite a bit. Any older getbiggers still train hard without constant and nagging injuries or joint pain? >:(
I'm 53 and I sustained my first REAL injuries a few months back when I decided to train at the commercial gym. Heavy bench to 405 x 2, Incline DB presses to 115's for sets of 4x8 with no problems. It's when I went to the Hammer Strength Incline. Since the movement starts at the bottom having to leverage to the top position, i felt a little discomfort but finished the rest of the training (Triceps). I woke up in the middle of the night with both shoulders in excruciating pain. For the next three weeks I had a hard time sleeping. I blew out both biceps tendons, no tears just out the groove on both shoulders.
This was the first injury that really put me out of training and training heavy. Even now I'm probably at about 60-70% when pressing either DB or BB. Doubt I'll ever get back to heavy bench or even heavy DB work.
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absolutely, sports science is a way more advanced now. With foam rollers, knee sleeves, compression everything, oly shoes, slingshots,ect ect, insurance covering massages\chiropractic sessions and just general emphasis on movement and mobility wods. just having a phone to video a lift to form check injuries should be wayyy less of an issue these days.
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well cause of my neck problem i just used Dumbbells Today, Front,side,rear raises and Dumbbell shrugs. No presses at all and i felt good and pain free.
how did you hurt your neck? serious question, not trolling
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how did you hurt your neck? serious question, not trolling
He got brutally bitch slapped while playing the skin flute of his boyfriend
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how did you hurt your neck? serious question, not trolling
he did it sucking cock
he doesn't train he is one of those internet gurus
that weight about 110
you should see him worst physique on here
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He got brutally bitch slapped while playing the skin flute of his boyfriend
Queens are always Bitchy..
he did it sucking cock
he doesn't train he is one of those internet gurus
that weight about 110
you should see him worst physique on here
See you are getting upset again. You get irrational
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I'm 53 and I sustained my first REAL injuries a few months back when I decided to train at the commercial gym. Heavy bench to 405 x 2, Incline DB presses to 115's for sets of 4x8 with no problems. It's when I went to the Hammer Strength Incline. Since the movement starts at the bottom having to leverage to the top position, i felt a little discomfort but finished the rest of the training (Triceps). I woke up in the middle of the night with both shoulders in excruciating pain. For the next three weeks I had a hard time sleeping. I blew out both biceps tendons, no tears just out the groove on both shoulders.
This was the first injury that really put me out of training and training heavy. Even now I'm probably at about 60-70% when pressing either DB or BB. Doubt I'll ever get back to heavy bench or even heavy DB work.
DAMN COACH..NICE LIFTS THERE...
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Not reading 4 pages.
15-20 reps. Lift light > not lifting at all.
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DAMN COACH..NICE LIFTS THERE...
Look at Benfatto's right pec. That's what heavy lifting does for a middle aged lifter.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/5EA365D9-6631-4716-8889-C44C21A6CE48_zps0wslvn1g.png) (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/thinlizzy21/media/5EA365D9-6631-4716-8889-C44C21A6CE48_zps0wslvn1g.png.html)
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Look at Benfatto's right pec. That's what heavy lifting does for a middle aged lifter.
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l142/thinlizzy21/5EA365D9-6631-4716-8889-C44C21A6CE48_zps0wslvn1g.png) (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/thinlizzy21/media/5EA365D9-6631-4716-8889-C44C21A6CE48_zps0wslvn1g.png.html)
Ouch..
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/NuxoW4nC1sQ/hqdefault.jpg)
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he did it sucking cock
he doesn't train he is one of those internet gurus
that weight about 110
you should see him worst physique on here
At least he didn't lose his eye sight :D