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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/living/gallery/born-again-celebrities/index.html?hpt=hp_c4
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Yep, very rare to find Christian celebrities....there aren't many.
Fact is, it ain't never been cool to be a Christian LOL!!
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Yep, very rare to find Christian celebrities....there aren't many.
Fact is, it ain't never been cool to be a Christian LOL!!
black people think it's cool
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Being a BAC myself, I knew about most of them.
It's good to see secular musicians come to faith; they have a great opportunity to help with the Great Commission.
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what is the difference between a born again and a regular christian
also, what brands of christianity are most common in USA
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what is the difference between a born again and a regular christian
also, what brands of christianity are most common in USA
Born again Christians are mainly non-Catholic, evangelical Christians.
Born again Christians are "regular" Christians too. To be born again is to undergo a spiritual rebirth of the human soul or spirit, contrasted with the physical birth everyone experiences. It's an experience of conversion symbolized by water baptism, and rooted in a commitment to one's own personal faith in Jesus Christ for salvation.
John 3:3
Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.
United States Religions:
Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)
CIA - The World Factbook
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
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what is the difference between a born again and a regular christian
also, what brands of christianity are most common in USA
Nothing really. A Christian is merely a Christian. Today most folks have begun referring to born again Christians as evangelicals.
Although, many folks refer to themselves as Christians or claim affiliation with Christian organizations, but are not truly Christians.
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Nothing really. A Christian is merely a Christian. Today most folks have begun referring to born again Christians as evangelicals.
Although, many folks refer to themselves as Christians or claim affiliation with Christian organizations, but are not truly Christians.
i'm a bit puzzled by all the different categories
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i'm a bit puzzled by all the different categories
Are referring to the differing denominations such as Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, etc...?
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Are referring to the differing denominations such as Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, etc...?
yep
episcopal church etc
roman catholic, non roman catholic
where does it all end
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Protestantbranches.svg/800px-Protestantbranches.svg.png)
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yep
episcopal church etc
roman catholic, non roman catholic
where does it all end
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/Protestantbranches.svg/800px-Protestantbranches.svg.png)
I myself belong to a non-denominational Christian church. It simply teaches from scripture with no church-derived additions, deletions or requirements. The focus is Jesus Christ and his will for our lives.
The problem I see with differing denominations and theologies is that men have put themselves ahead of Christ on many occassions to further their own agendas (not always the case mind you).
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yep
episcopal church etc
roman catholic, non roman catholic
where does it all end
What's the problem with Christian denominations? There is something for everybody, choices. I see it as a good thing. The central message is still the same, that Jesus Christ died for our sins.
And how is this any different than Judaism or Islam? They have different denominations too.
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And loco is correct that differing denominations are not always a bad thing. Certainly there are some instances of competing theologies, but we're not talking about the differences between Catholics and Protestants or trinitarians and unitarians. Some denominations simply worship a bit differently in terms of music, responsive reading, communion, alter calls, prayer, etc....but in the end the message of Christ shines through. Some prefer more of a Pentecostal-style of worship and others more of a subdued Methodist approach. As long as Jesus Christ is the focus that's the most important thing IMHO.
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/31/living/gallery/born-again-celebrities/index.html?hpt=hp_c4
Didn't know about some of them but it was interesting reading about Denise Matthews in "The Heroin Diaries."
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I myself belong to a non-denominational Christian church. It simply teaches from scripture with no church-derived additions, deletions or requirements. The focus is Jesus Christ and his will for our lives.
The problem I see with differing denominations and theologies is that men have put themselves ahead of Christ on many occassions to further their own agendas (not always the case mind you).
I can argue that the scriptures themselves are full of additions and selections, put in place by men in order to further their own agendas. Why are those additions and deletions ok?
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I myself belong to a non-denominational Christian church. It simply teaches from scripture with no church-derived additions, deletions or requirements. The focus is Jesus Christ and his will for our lives.
That's the way it should be. No rituals, no patterns, no dogma.
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I can argue that the scriptures themselves are full of additions and selections, put in place by men in order to further their own agendas. Why are those additions and deletions ok?
Sure if you would like to. Feel free to post some examples for discussion. I've also read books and articles on NT textual criticism so I wouldn't really be arguing information that is mine, but simply parroting and googling the work of theologians and scholars.
That said, there's also Ehrman's book Misquoting Jesus that discusses a lot of the NT additions and deletions. If you'd like an alternative view you can read Daniel Wallace's Reinventing Jesus or Ehrman's mentor Bruce Metzger's book on textual criticism (name escapes me right now). The late Dr. Metzger actual sides with Dan Wallace's opinions despite Ehrman's book being dedicated to his late mentor (apologist Lee Strobel also interviews Metzger in one of his books....I've got it but can't recall which book of Strobel's).
Dr. James White's discussion on NT textual criticism is also interesting.
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yeah I find people like ahmed are just being a parot. I am telling you what I know from my life. Not just from a book or tv. And it's been awhile since I even read al qur'an or haditha... it's all from memory at prayer time and for discussion. We learn this stuff when we are younger so no need to just parot al qur'an with cut and paste like parot. there are 7 year old kids that know al qur'an from heart even lol why parot just for attention? many ppl are against when kid just parot for attention like he big shot and act all arogant becasue he's a guardian... a guardian means someone who memorize al qur'an by heart. :)
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Oh yeah, and it's a lot easier to memorize al qur'an in arabic than the bible in english. So don't be so amazed that so many people can memorize al qur'an without but one hamza out of place. Al qur'an has a flow to it and it makes it easier to remember each and every surah. It's not that hard. And it's poetic with rhym rhyth and very beautiful so it makes it very easy to recite and memorize by heart. But, don't be fooled... that's doesn't mean it' better than the bible as it was just copied and just a really nice poem and story. It's beautiful... take it for what it is :P
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black people think it's cool
It's very trending, esp in the dead rows.
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If someone is born again and it makes them a better person, more power to them.
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If someone is born again and it makes them a better person, more power to them.
I am a born again Christian. Jesus came to me and that was that. I have not yet been baptised. I have not yet found a Church. I am now reading the Bible and learning about being a Christian. I don't need a quib'la now to find where east is as muslim alway prey toward holy ka'ba at makka in east. I just prey. God is all around... No need to behave like cult and all pray at man mad destination and man made time. Jesus is all around and so is God.
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If someone is born again and it makes them a better person, more power to them.
Agree, but they will die anyway
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Agree, but they will die anyway
nope. If you find jesus you will have eternal life. Amen :)
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supposedly
the jesus was sent to die for the sins of humanity since the death of a mortal would not be enough to cleanse the sins
but isnt that a little bit "convenient?"
how about... they just assassinated the so-called anoited (messiah) and then found out "oh hey it's ok, it was Jehova's plan after all"
where is the evidence of all this
can i just kill someone
and then claim it was all a divine master plan that fell into place?
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supposedly
the jesus was sent to die for the sins of humanity since the death of a mortal would not be enough to cleanse the sins
but isnt that a little bit "convenient?"
how about... they just assassinated the so-called anoited (messiah) and then found out "oh hey it's ok, it was Jehova's plan after all"
where is the evidence of all this
can i just kill someone
and then claim it was all a divine master plan that fell into place?
You could kill someone and then claim that, but your events weren't indicated via prophecy hundreds and hundreds of years prior to the event; further, you wouldn't have done anything to demonstrate that you yourself were divine. A bit further, it's unlikely there's someone unbiased and unassociated with you that would have attested to the events.
Jesus Christ had divine prophecy, demonstration of his divinity and unbiased, outside party attestation of what he had done; plus, his life caused countless others to suddenly abandon their former lives and surrender themselves to Christ's will almost over night. Events such as that are far more than convenient.
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You could kill someone and then claim that, but your events weren't indicated via prophecy hundreds and hundreds of years prior to the event; further, you wouldn't have done anything to demonstrate that you yourself were divine. A bit further, it's unlikely there's someone unbiased and unassociated with you that would have attested to the events.
Jesus Christ had divine prophecy, demonstration of his divinity and unbiased, outside party attestation of what he had done; plus, his life caused countless others to suddenly abandon their former lives and surrender themselves to Christ's will almost over night. Events such as that are far more than convenient.
Please... there was no prophecy and what is interpreted as such is allegory that is then stretched beyond all credibility. And that's just one criticism I can levy against this post.
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Agree, but they will die anyway
Yes.
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Please... there was no prophecy and what is interpreted as such is allegory that is then stretched beyond all credibility. And that's just one criticism I can levy against this post.
By all means, don't hold back. Maybe you'll present something I haven't heard before.
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nope. If you find jesus you will have eternal life. Amen :)
Dream on, and on judgment day you will dream forever. Amen